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where you at niggers, i was surprised of how much i remembered in my mad cram session.
i still only know the basics of grammar, send help
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I recently started playing through FFX in Japanese. i honestly haven't had any problems so far. Since I know the game in English I haven't had any problems understanding what's going on. Since the game is voiced and subed, I have found it to be a good way of picking up new kanji.
I lied, I haven't actually started playing yet.
Okay, Im grinding the kana on a daily fashion, I have a firm grasp of it and I only need to commit everything to long term memory.
Now I want to test the kanji waters, but even after reading the OP guide Im still confused as how I should go about it.
So let me get this straight: apparently you need to know the Kanji radicals "the bulding blocks" in order to at least have an understanding of what a complex kanji might mean when you first see it, so I need to learn two sets of pronunciations for each one (the kun/on yomi), the meanings of said radicals and their stroke order, not only that, you need to learn their simplified forms because you dont fit them in their entirity when you write kanji.
So you have this Heisig thing that teaches the radicals slowly without telling you their meanings until later, that seems impractical to me, plus the critisisms made by this Tae Kim guy who has this guide that is also critisized for being too simplistic. You also have the Imabi site that seems to be mostly about grammar and GeneticKanji that, at first glance seems pretty confusing, I have no idea what to click to get back in the index once you click a kanji and open up its ramifications.
So the logical course of action, in my mind, should consist of getting the Heisig RTK book, compliment the lessons there with the kanji meanings, and to do some grammar as I slowly progress. Starting with grammar from the get go seems like a bit of a suicide given all the kanji Im seeing in the lessons.
Is this a good course of action?
Im falling asleep on the keyboard right now, maybe some parts of this dont make a lot of sense
I imported Sengoku BASARA 4 Sumeragi and after one night i figured out all the menus and i can basically play the entire game without looking at the translation i printed out, it's actually kinda neat how little time i needed to adjust.
Also staring at all the weapon inscriptions with all the kanjis is making me remember certain patterns, because out of necessity i had to memorize certain ones to quickly recognize useful inscriptions.
However if i knew japanese i could understand the banter between the characters and their stories, so it's kinda sad that my ignorance prevents me from enjoying that aspect of the game.
Also if i knew how to add ¥ to my japanese account i could get all the cool ass themed costumes, so i'm missing out on that as well.
The best course of action,if you aren't an autistic faggot like me, it's going with Tae Kim way. Start reading shit,and when you find a new kanji,learn it and so the pronunciation with some vocab to remember it.It starts slow(and probably a bit more frustrating) but it's the fastest way to really learn something.
The RTK teaches you the meaning of the kanji in the first book,then it adds the most common and used pronunciation in the second book.In the third,it adds other kanji and their pronunciation.
The radicals are useful to get some kind of understanding of what a Kanji could be.You don't need to learn the pronunciation of them.But not every kanji follow this rule and with time as you learn more kanji it will become useless. Many Kanji RTK teaches aren't used, some are used rarely,some have the same meaning of another one,etc. If you want deep knowledge of the language it's okay,but if you aim to read and play it's useless work.
Same for the pronunciation:there are kanji with tons of pronunciation but most of them are not used except rarely.
As i said above,the Tae Kim method is the best: the more you read,the more you play,the more you listen you will learn the meaning,the pronunciation,the rare exception,etc.
If you really want, i would suggest to study the most used 1200+- kanji that are used always and their most used pronunciation with grammar and then proceed with Tae Kim method.
If Im going to use the Tae Kim approach I feel like I should at least have a grammar safety net, I think the imabi guide should be enough for that
I dont know at what point I should venture into reading shit in straight japanese, though
Berserk apparently has a low difficulty rating, It would be a nice excuse to revisit tyhe manga, but maybe its too much of an overkill?
Why don't you guys all type in Japanese in these threads if you're trying to learn it?
Doesn't speaking a language to other people help you learn it far quicker?
You are making it a little bit more complicated than it is.
Just get the anki deck from the start up guide and learn vocabulary, you have to learn vocabulary anyway.
You don't need to bother with radicals, just go to jisho and check out the meaning of the kanji you'll encounter, while learning vocabulary.
You'll often pick up their readings and meaning while learning new words, you'll notice that a kanji with a certain meaning is often in many words that have a similar meaning so you don't even have to look it up most of the time.
My advice: Go get the vocabulary deck from the start up guide and start learning, after you learned like 500-1000 words (the more the better) you can start learning grammar.
For grammar Tae Kim is alright, but I personally really enjoyed "Japanese the Manga Way" it explains using real manga and it's easy to understand, the only problem is that there are no exercises to practice what you just learned.