Villains who did nothing wrong

let's get this shit started

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If he didn't sacrifice them, then his dream would of been gone. Nobody in the Band of the Hawk wanted that. It would of made it so all those thousand of solders died for nothing. That's worse than a fraction of the Hawk getting kill at once

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i would hatefuck junko, but after that i would throw her where she belongs in the junkyard

Everyone in DR is retarded so I suppose she was doing everyone a favor but still, get some taste nigger.

His only flaw is being in a SJW game and being bested by a feminist ghost witch's choosen (MC). Poor bastard…

New York had it coming… See real world event 9/11

He did nothing wrong. He was a hero. Naked Snake did more damage to the title than Venom ever could.

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what

The post first half went for OP. His bad guy is from Pillars of Eternity.

Griffith will die horribly at the hand of countless players once the game is out, and you're going to watch the webms.

The very definition.

the junkoyard

>Implying that destroying the world wasn't the right thing to do
>Implying that it was anything else than a mercy kill
>Implying he didn't actually care about the residents of the world, when he clearly wanted to protect them in Zone 2
>Implying he was evil, when he was the one most disgusted by the evil actions committed by other characters
>Implying that other characters aren't just blind to common sense, and can't see that their world has become so evil, that it's impossible to salvage it.
>Implying that death wouldn't be a merciful option for the inhabitants
>Implying that the Queen wasn't a lazy sack of shit that let her world rot to the very core
>Implying that all the Guardians weren't all completely evil, egoistical or insane
>Implying that it's better to live in a world full of suffering, paranoia and insanity, instead of just ending it all and letting everyone rest in peace
>Not respecting his absolute faith

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Hitler wasn't a villain dude.

You can still finish what he started and send the souls to Woedica

I remember this, but I can't quite remember what happened. did he light a whole room of flammable/combustible statues on fire?

Divinity original sin?

No

It's OFF

It was on the shuttle I think
The rest is history.

How is that a bad thing?


Shit taste tbh onii-fams.

RPG Maker shit.

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He does what he's paid for, if Aiden had presented more cash at the lighthouse he would have pointed the gun towards Damien in a heartbeat

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is this fuckin Morrowind?

How old are you n'wah?

He did kind of fuck up by staying on his ass at the very end of the castle, leaving all the other gestalts in the way of slaughterism. But the true villains are Devola, Popola and their retarded plans.

Her reveal was beyond retarded, how the fuck did Dangeanrondanpaul got so many sequels and animes and shit?.

Because Japs have shit taste and weeaboos have even worse taste. The surprising popularity of NGE and Concrete Revolutio should be a testament to that.


Also, on topic, Logarius did nothing wrong. Fuck vampires.

Yeah, but by then I imagine he was pretty emotionally broken after all the crazy shit he'd been through, and for so long.

NieR has one of the greatest storylines and most quality intertwinings of story and gameplay mechanics of any game ever. That true ending was like nothing else.

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I forgot what Thaos even did or what his goals were.

Nier was good but I take it you didn't play any Zero Escape

He found out how the gods got their power and that even mortals could achive that power but the gods are mean as fuck.

So he teamed up with the only god who had grude with the other gods to depower them.

Atleast this is what i remember form the game. i uninstall it immediately after the boss fight…

If we were to count losing as being wrong then the thread would be empty, m8

wanted to keep the secret of the gods not being real, but aedyran entities, and to siphon the souls from dyrwood to become woedica's champion

He also did plenty of other things wrong, like deliberately lying to the German people to get investors for the Nazi war machine, assassinating the opposition to force the fascist ideology into power, invading the Rhineland and Czechoslovakia unprovoked, committing a wide variety of military blunders against the wishes of his advisors, and forcing a large portion of his territories' populations into concentration camps without setting up a proper replacement for all the personnel he'd be losing as a result.

Thaos is a fag, Woedica's a bitch, Magram is a cunt.

Durance is the only legit nigga in that entire game.

Did nothing wrong isn't the same as always right, sadly.

Durance is a real nigga, but Thaos's intentions were in the right place.

Huey did nothing wrong

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meant to reply to

THE PACMAN GHOSTS
THE CROCODILES IN PITFALL
GOOMBAS

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You're gonna get hung up on that concentration camp thing, aren't you? Hitler did a lot of things wrong. Pretty much the only things he did right was delude Germany into spending all their leftover resources into revitalizing the country for the war effort and giving the rest of the world an excellent demonstration on what not to do when trying to purify one's country of corruption.

That's all I'm going to say about that.

this is lame. It's not fun when you post obviously evil or insane villains.

THIS is how you do it:

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every time

Could of, would of and should of

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Can't wait for the obligatory Adachi poster

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Mark did everything wrong, he's so autistic he gave his own mon cancer

But that is murder you are directly putting someone in a situation that you know will get them killed.

It's like when Sawfags go on and on about how Jigsaw never killed anyone

Correct its like throwing someone in a pit of starving lions and saying they did nothing wrong

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whats the point of Jigsaw anyway, proof that old men are bitter and sadistic?

Nigger sacrificing someone means that they go to hell to suffer for eternity while if you die normally then you just go to a normal afterlife.

Fuck you dying for Griffith isn't the same as going to hell for him.

fuck off

hes not even a villain, he pussies out and goes back to being light side

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how can two characters in direct diametric conflict to each other to the extent one destroys the other both 'do nothing wrong'?

If you're a pussy, that is.

In my playthrough, he ended up cosplaying as 1946 Germany.
Also, he did quite possibly every fucking thing wrong, always going with the side where he has nothing to gain.

The qt sith apprentice, however, would have been worth saving, shame you couldn't.

You're fucking dumb.

He thought he would be able to spare everyone by showing their usefulness.

To bad even Shepard couldn't beat bioware.

i agree hes a shitter, i was dark side and i just killed him on the forge planet, yeah shame you couldnt take over red twilek, her booty was fat and her animations were juicy

God damn, that's some weapon grade ugly.

That's the owner of Holla Forums

ADACHI DID NOTHING WRONG

All Izanami's fault

He's still the best character

I know.

Having watched all of the Saw movies way too many times, let me break it down for you.

The first Jigsaw is John, who is a man who both loses his unborn child due to an accident and gets a fatal brain tumor. His method is basically the old lesson "That which doesn't kill you makes you stronger" taken to its most logical extreme. Every one of his games is potentially fatal, but ultimately survivable with enough willpower. Ultimately, John's Jigsaw games are meant to be cynical yet optimistic, proof that people are more than willing to brutalize and kill each other and themselves for one more day of life but those that prove their will to survive are made all the stronger for it. And, as far as the series goes, John's philosophy is proven right. John, as Jigsaw, practically overcomes death itself by becoming immortalized as one of America's most infamous serial killers (even making the front page of Time Magazine in one of the later movies.)

Due to the brain tumor, John realizes that he can't keep up his killing spree all by himself. So he recruits Amanda, a survivor of one of his previous games, to become his disciple and eventual successor. Unfortunately, Amanda completely lacks any form of optimism for her fellow man, so she makes her games inescapable. This makes her unsuited to be the next Jigsaw, and so John teaches her the ultimate lesson by rigging up a game where her inability to feel compassion leads to her death. (Saw 2 and 3 take place in this time period.)

At some point in the past, John finds an article in the paper about a Jigsaw killing that neither he nor Amanda orchestrated. After some digging, John finds out that an FBI Agent named Hoffman is responsible. John's pissed off at Hoffman at first because, like Amanda, Hoffman had rigged his game to be inescapable. Hoffman admits that he had a personal vendetta against the victim(his sister's boyfriend who beat her to death but got off because his friends covered for him) and chooses to follow John's philosophy (even to the extent of planning Amanda's eventual demise for her own faults.) Hoffman eventually takes up the mantle of Jigsaw after John kicks the bucket from cancer, but he's an imperfect imitator who still allows his own personal vendettas to get in the way of what Jigsaw was meant to represent. (John's Jigsaw targeted societal losers, suicidal people, hypochondriacs, and drug addicts, while Hoffman's Jigsaw almost solely targeted FBI agents and law enforcement officers who had pissed him off.) Saw 4 - 6 take place during this time, with flashbacks to Saw 1, 2, and 3, showing that Hoffman's been working with John and Amanda for quite a while

By Saw 6, Hoffman is starting to more fully become the Jigsaw that John had wanted him to be. However, there's been an unknown disciple working for Jigsaw that neither he nor Amanda knew about, Dr. Laurence Gordon (the guy who cut off his own foot at the end of Saw 1.) Turns out that John had found Dr Gordon after the end of Saw 1 and raised him back to health (even giving him a prosthetic foot for his troubles.) Unfortunately, the movie doesn't go into too deep of detail as to why Dr Gordon wanted to become the next Jigsaw (despite everyone on set knowing that Saw 6 was going to be the last in the franchise,) but he's still managed to find several disciples of his own to kidnap Hoffman and carry on the Jigsaw legacy of his own. Several of the traps that Gordon has been to shown to be behind (including the infamous Venus Flytrap) do wind up matching the original Jigsaw's (John's) MO of targeting the societal losers, drug addicts, et al. so he's arguably the best to keep the "Legend of Jigsaw" going. And his ability to recruit his own disciples shows he's a clearly better Jigsaw than Hoffman ever was (who chose to do everything by himself.)

whats the venus flytrap?

(if it involves cutting off dicks i dont want to know)

FORESKIN REMOVAL

CIRCUMCISION

i mean that doesnt sound too bad considering most of the things kill you right?

still yucky though

end yourself, my man

Circumcision can still kill user.

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They would've just turned everyone into husks, tools for them to control and use. This is made clear even in the first game.

Not with that haircut.And why she has donuts around the air?


Finally someone who understood. Saren's future was getting fucked in the ass and become husk,he was going to wipe out everyone. The merging ending is different from it.

ME3 was such a fucking disappointment

People like you disgust me.

She could hurt me.Think about me for a second you egoistic cunt.

Im not sure what you're getting at, user

Hair horn are scary

Everyone dies user wouldn't you rather them be happy when they do?

Stop it

no, I'd rather them be alive and not under the rule of a little tyrant dipshit with mommy complexes

Not really a villain, but he basically got the treatment

I'm sure your crippled friend feels the same way.

more like brother :^)
and he does in the end

Really the whole "It's killing us" thing feels like a cop-out so that the protag doesn't seem like a huge douche for dragging his brother back to the real world where he is crippled.

Lie
Nothing wrong with purging commies and other traitors of your race
You can't invade your own land. It was akin to the Germans stepping on their own backyard.
You wot. Only a very very tiny percentage of the population was put in concentration camps. It didn't cause any personnel loss, because all the imprisoned people were detrimental to the nation and its people. They were not good people.

also a fucking idiot who punished himself when welkin would have definitely forgiven his actions when given a proper explanation. the his retarded self sacrifice almost kills welkin and alicia even though maximillian was already incapacitated

Except it worked perfectly, the only reason they lost in the end was because the Jews managed to trick goyim in most countries to do their bidding.

National Socialism as a system is flawless.

I'm sorry little cripple but some people among us would prefer not to be literal monsters who get hunted for sport by insecure kindergarten kids.

Most people are horrible monsters in real life already who cares if they look just a monstrous on the inside?

It felt less a decision from him and more than an attempt of the devs to "redeem" his character. It was pretty retarded

I hate it when this fucking happens
here

I watched Berzerk after endless threads asking for it by the same guy on Holla Forums.

It didn't explain what Griffith wanted and was better that way. All the time beyond understanding.

He let them down in choosing a final destination. Have into temptation to give up building them. It's up to Guts to remind him he (Grifith) is higher than the rest, they are beyond gifts. They would rather have nothing from him than anything from others.

Guts an Griffith need to find a way to restore those lost. Perhaps their life immortal only acheivable with such horrors. Regardless that kind of thing should have been kept from them, a betrayal that would remain even if show as otherwise.

The anime and movies leave out and skip over 50% of everything. A lot of important character building and story is just not there.

No it isn't.
Some ask for that, to go to the worst positions. Forging new faith from the world such can be fixed. Things can be better. You're better than any task.

Demonstrating you are worth aiding.

Winning isn't playing the part and choosing well. You yourself are another option the world cannot determine. Challenging what is, accnowleging the gravity of opposition, holding it's existance and correcting it if it is failing, if it exists by drawing upon others.

Or just that some things are worth your life, showing that your life is no small thing to give away. Asking the world to care about what you get clear and keep being, keep more mystery. Let things keep their mystery.

Take on te hardest tasks and have revealed ones harder than what is known.

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What I saw one episode a day was perfect, apart from the end, but the start hinted at that.

I wouldn't ruin my experience by expanding upon it. I walked out of Gone Girl while it had a beautiful ending that could bloom. I don't know different. I didn't play The Last of Us DLC.

Things end for me when they end well.

Greed tends to destroy things, turns and feeds of what is instead of forges ahead.

I will read it and other things when I deserve to.

also obligatory

Hitler was a good man, Hess was a hero.
Neither were enough to save their countries from the stupidity of the mob.

He empowered the very enemies he was talking about. Institutions of parasitism, methods of pain upon others.

He let people decide themselves flawless and the flaws of others made to consume their identity. Let them remove problems instead of defeating them. Greater things have the capacity to raise, the german people effectively went to prove beauty was made by horror instead of itself, and that beauty wasn't enough to overpower otherwise. Never considered that with power he could give what he saw wrong another way to live, that they might need that force to be broken from their ailment. Should have known it would add to his greatness for his enemies to have been saved from themselves, indebted to his decency. Demonstrate being better by example and against anything else that fact obvious. Want in others for it to be and to be higher, a way for others to see it be so and that done by diminishing nothing else.

A great thing should support the rest.

cuckhan is perfect for underage idiots like you.

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This Cid was enjoyable.

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At least the propogation of newsmedia and the pic at the bottom shows this site for what it is.

he is god you know that ?

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He's pretty clearly a stand-in for satan or some sort of demon
Who also did nothing wrong
Did you not watch the rest of that

are there a whole bunch of people using google translate to post here? i swear i see this shit everywhere.

It did explain it though. His ambition is to become a king and a ruler.

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Man did the shit on the villain of the basegame. Space elf McAsshole was a fucking joke compared to the other great villains of the witcher (Letho did nothing wrong)

Eredin was also a really shitty fight
Even fighting the crones with ciri was harder

Needs fixing, whingers, people posting animu, people repeating critic stupidity. (Same as here and spreading)

People need to try to have their own opinions, tastes, desires. Passion.

People are encouraged to subscribe and be handed them. They have been wronged and that treason against them can be resolved by them exploring, going with what they feel is right, seeing the best of it, and sharing that, maybe in another form, even another game, build what they were inspired to, what should have been in the game, or a more grand thing in similar vein.

Build and be what they like. Be better. Escape the prison set upon their mind and know beauty. Beauty for them. Something they have to find and/or make themselves.

People should experience wonder new. Untainted by the perspective of others. The perspective of critics isn't honest either, they put out what will net attention or persuade others that they are a credible authority on what is and isn't good. It is a means of making money for them.

A fresh perspective is pure, a positive one may help, either way wishing things to be special and keeping attention to what is.

Filling their head with things they like. Demanding more of that and bringing forth srange developments of nice things.

Subscribing perspective shuts down someones own. Most critic perspective is negative, people with such eyes will be denied seeing good things, lest they be destroyed amongst such sight.

Shrinks for example have adapted to need things to conform to their perspective, things need to be less than them for them to go on functioning.

Ways of life based around needing problems inflict them and inhibit solutions.

Piracy helps people have their own tastes, and if paying after experiencing will mean publishers, censorship and taxation is eliminated. Good things unconnected to parasites. Material will not be made to make money but for something to get the best possible incarnation. Doing so what is rewarded with money if help is not enough.

People will have the highest possible standard, no connection to those trying to lower it. No conformity of taste. More individuality.

Dreams become standards.

Until then the brave people helping eachother retains what matters.

In the end it doesn't matter how much shit is out there, but that there is some good somewhere.

Some good there.

Griffith

Guts

Griffith is the good guy in the story. Guts is a race traitor who just kills everyone around him.

WE MUST DISSENT

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sacrificing his friends wasn't what he did wrong.
it was faggotry, consorting with demons, and bringing about hell on earth so he could get his kingdom.

condemning his followers to eternal pain and suffering was a cunt move as well though.

No, it was like this. Thaos has volunteered to be a guardian of a secret that the gods are real, but they are man made. He tried to protect not so bad status quo and prevent people from destroying current, and creating new deities.

In the past it was sort of like with the Chaos Gods, deities were created based on peoples thoughts, beliefs and feelings, every tribe had their own gods some of them demanded terrible and disgusting things as an act of faith. Thaos came from civilization that was very advanced in "spirit science", they decided to bring peace and morality to sentient races. Thanks to their knowledge of how things work they were able to create sort of super powerful gods (compared to other savage made spirits). Then they went on a long and hard campaign to convert savage tribes to their new pantheon of gods that condemned immorality, and they succeed.

tl;dr Thaos was leader of secret inquisition that maintained the morality system his people set up centuries ago.

I've got a fucking Solidus folder at this point

True, but there's a decent chance they would've gone to hell anyway.

THANK YOU ACTION GRANDPA

He was sweating bullets when he saw you walk in the door, but soon released you couldn't remember who he was, and that the mission could continue without a hitch.

Gerald was implicated simply by being in the wrong place at the wrong time.


This is trash.

Just compare him to someone else chosen by a gods.
Lets say Archaon.
Archaon lore is 4/10 and himself is just one raging edgelord, but he still managed to be in every single way better chosen than Griffith.

I might even qualify him to this thread, he never needed rescue mission or needed help of the gods to stop being hotwheels.

He was only tying to make his wish come true.

Thaos was OP as fuck, and it was never explained why he didn't use his best powers against the MC. Hell, with literal immortality, capability of bodysnatching, and all the other shit, he could've went on to be the God Emperor of mankind.

Unfortunately for him, he stars in one of the blandest fucking RPGs you can find that nobody cares about

Griffith is a bratty little kid in all regards who gets played by fate like a little cunt.

Griffith is an example of a man whose dreams were destined to be denied by fate. Instead of consigning himself to his station in life and give up on his dreams, he instead turned to unholy and chaotic forces that allowed him to shatter the chains of fate and grant him the power to grasp his dream, but by breaking his mold and surpassing his natural boundaries, he denies another man's (Guts) fated greatness.

His story isn't fully wrapped up yet, so we've yet to see if his deal with the devil will bite him in the backside. Kameymis better have the story outlined so that someone else can take over if he suddenly dies.

Oh yeah, sure, if Griffith had just ordered his men to be sacrifices they would have all complied, sure were ready to die for him.

Besides, he's building Babylon where he can rule over the brown hordes, by bringing in Kushan fuckers.

He didn't even turn to such forces, they turned to him.
Personally ordained by the God Hand itself, they made sure the egg of the king kept coming back to him.
Miura has already said the ending will be somewhat happy. I am guessing Griffith and Guts both live(because Griffith is now immortal and shit) but his earthly reincarnated body tries to pull a Ganishka and destroys fucking everything in the process.

He's building an ebin multicultural kingdom, he's George Soros and the antichrist all in one.

user, the whole point of Dahlia is that she did everything wrong.
She fucked up over and over.

Its been a few years, I probably misremembered stuff.

K-K-K-KICKED IN THE DICK

all good man.

The Filenames brah.

(J)apanese, (U)S.

I think the reasoning is that Advances translation dropped a number of the hints of Ivalice more sinister effects (Some made it through, like the Zombie Names.) so in the English version Remedi did nothing wrong and was literally hope and dreams incarnate, but in the Japanese Marche has less "Villain moments" and the fact Remedi ate souls and was a demon was more clear.

Tactics Advance is pretty interesting in that way because it shows how radically different a story can become via "localization" and (some) people don't know it until damn near a decade later.

Anyway,Cia wants to fuck Link and considering a good chunk of Holla Forums also seems to want that i think that means she is in the right.

And frankly, considering what Azerot becomeh and how much CORRUPTION there is i think Malygos taking the "world-might-end" risk while removing magic was completely justified.

I mean, at worst case shit blows up and everyone dies, which would still mean no Cataclym, which is a win in my book.

LITERALLY NOTHING WRONG

Dying for someone in battle != Taking their own lives for him

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I can't tell if you are trolling or not.
There is no such thing as ruining Berserk for yourself by reading the manga after watching the anime and movies. The manga is superior in every way.

But really, don't bother speculating about the series before you have entirely read the manga. So much you have missed.

Who's saying there won't be a revolution lead by Trump if he doesn't win by the elections? These are the end times, the last times we have to save our people and cultures, so it'll be the necessary last option.

Yeah that guy is clueless, only watched the anime and clearly even then missed a lot that was said in it. Griffiths ambition is said many times, he literally just wants a kingdom of his own to rule.

Nice fantasy but here's what really happened:
Griffith

Guts:

This is how retarded Griffith fanboys are everyone.

looks h'white to me

Letho is a great example of a villain that did nothing wrong. He was actually a total bro and avoided fighting Geralt every chance he had, because he didn't want to kill his old friend.

Well indeed. Everything about Casca just proves that she is racially a Mediterranean European. Her name is Spanish. Looks just like a European, has slight tan like Mediterraneans.

Look at the Kushans in Berserk, they all have gobbledygook chink eyes and darker skin.

The only difference between the characteristics of her and the Midlanders in this picture is that she has slightly more tan. Facial features and skull shape are entirely of the same phenotype.

The Kushans and Negroids in Berserk however have accurate distinctly poo in loo and negroid looks, including facial features and skull shape.

I never considered that a possibility

Yeah, well think about it. There's hundreds or even thousands of Apostles in Falconia, who haven't eaten a human in months. It's been mentioned several times now that they are getting very agitated by this rule, as animal and monster meat is not to their liking. They're close to a chimp out.

Secondly, look at these pictures of Falconia as it was a thousand years ago, when Skull Knight ruled it. It looks like all the citizens were branded and sacrificed. Maybe the God Hand are repeating this process, first gathering lots of people into the city for a new sacrifice.

I thought the brainy god hand, Void, sacrificed the entire city leaving it how it was.

I think so too. I didn't say Gaiseric sacrificed them. It was definitely Void since it seems he was the first God Hand. And the way to become a God Hand is to use a Crimson Behelit and sacrifice a lot of people.

But I really doubt anything good will happen to the current inhabitants of Falconia. Those Apostles will start eating them at some point.

I'm not so sure about him being the first, since it was said angels came down from heaven and wrecked shit. But it makes sense, the loli did say Griffith would throw humanity into darkness.

Just assuming Void was the first since he seems like the leader of the God Hand.

It's also weird that its said that 4 angels came down from heaven during Gaiserics rule, but that was a thousand years ago. And Eclipses happen every 216 years, meaning that the four God Hand should have been God Hand only for 216, 432, 648, and 864 years by the time Femto is born.

Also the holy book of the main religion had a prophecy about The Hawk of Darkness coming to lead the blind sheep and bring darkness upon the world. The Holy Iron Chain Knights thought it was Guts but obviously it's Griffith. The Hawk of Light dreams that everyone in Midland saw, were false visions put in their heads by the God Hand to manipulate them.

Nah, none of the Jigsaws' traps ever went that direction. But any trap that required more than basic medical knowledge is implied to be Dr Gordon's work (or at least in collaboration with John,) rather than Hoffman or Amanda's.

embed related, the venus flytrap

Being sent into battle doesn't guarantee death (Guts and Caska being rare exceptions)
Being sent into battle doesn't mean your soul will be sent to hell for all of eternity

He's supposed to be the Demiurge, you dipshits.

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