American Sturmabteilung

Let's take a look at history. The Nazi "Storm Detachment" or "Sturmabteilung" arose out of a need to protect Nazi party meetings from violent Communists.

In the early days of the Nazi party and Hitler's rise, they were heckled as old-fashion, racists, traditionalists, etc. Largely by the KPD or Rotfront, the communists of 1920s/30s Germany. Even in the early 30s, Hitler was talked about as a buffoon and a political novice who could be manipulated by the more traditional conservatives (even after the Nazi party had grown to be the largest party in Germany). Communist attacks on Nazis grew in intensity, and streetfighting soon commenced (going from barroom brawls to fighting with clubs to finally shooting at each other). Many Nazis were assassinated by Communists and Horst Wessel Lied, the Nazi anthem, was a song written by one of the men turned into a martyr by Goebbels' propaganda.

Watching what happened at the Battle of Berkeley and the way the police completely refused to intervene, I am beginning to think that conservatives/alt-right need better organization and an outfit like the Sturmabteilung to protect people and make sure Communists can no longer attack old people or try to kick people to death on the floor…. or throw fucking explosives.

I'm gonna quote some stuff from (((wikipedia))), and tell me if it doesn't sound familiar.

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The DAP (Deutsche Arbeiterpartei or German Workers' Party) was formed in Munich in January 1919 and Adolf Hitler joined it in September of that year. His talents for speaking, publicity and propaganda were quickly recognized,[3] and by early 1920 he had gained authority in the party, which changed its name to the NSDAP (Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei or National Socialist German Workers' Party) in February 1920.[4]

The precursor to the SA had acted informally and on an ad hoc basis for some time before this. Hitler, with an eye always to helping the party to grow through propaganda, convinced the leadership committee to invest in an advertisement in the Münchener Beobachter (later renamed the Völkischer Beobachter) for a mass meeting in the Hofbräuhaus, to be held on 16 October 1919. Some 70 people attended, and a second such meeting was advertised for 13 November in the Eberlbrau beer hall. Some 130 people attended; there were hecklers, but Hitler's military friends promptly ejected them by force, and the agitators "flew down the stairs with gashed heads." The next year, on 24 February, he announced the party's Twenty-Five Point program at a mass meeting of some 2000 people at the Hofbräuhaus. Protesters tried to shout Hitler down, but his former army companions, armed with rubber truncheons, ejected the dissenters. The basis for the SA had been formed.

A permanent group of party members who would serve as the ruffian Saalschutzabteilung (meeting hall protection detachment) for the DAP gathered around Emil Maurice after the February 1920 incident at the Hofbräuhaus. There was little organization or structure to this group. The group was also called the Ordnertruppen around this time.[6] More than a year later, on 3 August 1921, Hitler redefined the group as the "Gymnastic and Sports Division" of the party (Turn- und Sportabteilung), perhaps to avoid trouble with the government.[7] It was by now well recognized as an appropriate, even necessary, function or organ of the party. The future SA developed by organizing and formalizing the groups of ex-soldiers and beer hall brawlers who were to protect gatherings of the Nazi Party from disruptions from Social Democrats (SPD) and Communists (KPD) and to disrupt meetings of the other political parties. By September 1921 the name Sturmabteilung was being used informally for the group.[8] Hitler was the official head of the Nazi Party by this time.[9]

On 4 November 1921 the Nazi Party held a large public meeting in the Munich Hofbräuhaus, which also attracted many Reds and other enemies of the Nazis. After Hitler had spoken for some time, the meeting erupted into a melee in which a small company of SA thrashed the opposition. The Nazis called this event the Saalschlacht ("meeting hall battle"), and it assumed legendary proportions in SA lore with the passage of time. Thereafter, the group was officially known as the Sturmabteilung.[8]

Remind you of something? Battle of Berkeley maybe?

Just as long as we get to Long Knife "based" Stickman, and the rest of the Nu-SA when we get in power.

Word of warning for you would-be warriors: Antifa is going to be escalate. You may be risking your lives if you go to these events. But, hey, you might be immortalized in our national anthem, if you die.

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Some crucial suggestions:

1. Charge missile infantry.
The Antifa make use of an old Roman and early-modern tactic of screening their lines with shitty troops (small women and nu-males) while people behind them throw rocks, explosives, and bottles. You can't see them or get to them, because the screen is in the way. This is also how Eric Clanton moved in to attack the dude with his bike lock, hiding behind for the right moment to strike. The right-wing needs to shut that shit down immediately. Get a group of guys together (at least 10) and charge en masse at the antifa lines. The antifa women will scatter, allowing you access to the fuckers in the back. Use shields and sticks to rain hell on these fuckers.

2. Organization
The above will be much easier with greater organization. In the early moments of the event (or preferably before), you should agree on a Commander and various Captains. Each captain leads a detachment of men (5-10). If the commander calls a charge, everyone pushes forward with shields and scatters the Antifa. Captains govern their men in the melee and can call mini-charges and move them tactically to respond to specific threats. This will help with pitched battles and will also help avoid antifa's #1 tactic: picking off individual guys and tripping them so eight other communists can stab and kick him on the ground.

3. Study Pre-Modern Fighting
Nobody's brought guns yet, so you're basically in pre-modern fight-mode, again. Look at the Roman legionary. Heavy shock infantry. When the legionaries charge, they throw javelins to soften up and disrupt the enemy formation. You should do the same. Every Defender should be armed with a can of bearspray, eyeprotection and a mask. As you move into charge, raise your bear spray and fire into the eyes of the Antifa. Empty the fucker if you want, or shoot for a few seconds then holster. This will disorientate and disrupt the antifa lines. Follow up the spray with your charge, with your shields and rubber batons/flagpoles ready.

(Bearspray is a crucial point, here. Pepper spray fires in a cloud and will blow back into you as you're charging. However, Bearspray goes in a straight line and has distance, so you can fire while charging. Eyepro and mask will deal with any fallout).

Add football pads to the baseball helmets and you can rule the streets as Caesar's Legion.

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(Ignore the woman ruining this perfectly good shot)

THIS THIS THIS

some minor tweaks and that could be a 10/10 outift

They're illegal in California.

HOWEVER, there is a loophole.

Bring a rigid, black rubber dildo (with a handle). That's not covered under the statute. if they ask why you have it, say you're a gay conservative who is tired of erasure. You're here. You're queer. You hate communists. Get used to it!

Also added irony of beating antifa to death with big black cocks.

(Alternatively… DON'T GET CAUGHT and ditch that shit if you think you will get caught)


It's already basically the outfit of alt-right fighters. Add football shoulder pads or hockey pads or catcher pads and you're basically a Caesar's Legionary. You can even steal the Decanus style (add colors/feathers to the helmets or just use a different color helmet) for Captains. The worry, of course, is that the police might target Captains for arrest. Gotta weigh easily distinguishable captains vs police risk.

Antifa already plans to attack the appalachia meeting of far right groups. They have given us all we need.

Ive heard of cops using "Carbon-reinforced knuckle gloves" and a leftist outrage over them being nearly the same thing as brass knuckles. You can get a pair for like 20$.

Antifa are gonna get themselves shot doing that

dubs confirm. Hardliner tactical gloves let you punch all day and have no marks on your knuckles Clean knuckles = no evidence of committing violence.

The real value is being able to beat the piss out of someone with metal knuckled gloves, and then claim you didnt use a weapon, because they are just gloves that protect your knuckles, not an actual weapon. A bunch of lefties cried about the cops using them, and pretty much were told to go fuck themselves.

Decent pair for ~50$ looks like, would not want to get beaned with one of these. They have them up to like 150$, they are also called tactical gloves I guess.

Another.

The problem is that the American far-right needs a solid leader. We used to have that in legendary men such as Rockwell and Pierce, but we don't have that these days. And attempting to form a paramilitary organization when your most well known figures are all Jews, gays, and losers will just lead into degeneration into another trashy skinhead group.

We need to create more than just an organization or a movement, we need to create a society. The American National-Socialists need to find competent leaders who will stand by what they believe in. They need to get active in their society, and participate in charities, church gatherings, and other such events. And then they need to show that they can protect their own.

There are a lot more of us out there than people realize, but virtually no one will say what they think in public. The media will call us the violent ones even if we are the ones being attacked, so we will never be able to reach outwards with the reach of the leftists. But we can reach inwards, and show that if Antifa are trying to hurt you, we will protect you. If you don't feel safe in your house, we will let you sleep on our couch. If you have lost your job we will help you back on your feet.

Violence is, unfortunately, a necessary tool in modern times. But there is so much more we need to do before we can truly take the fight to the enemy. Make plans to protect yourself, your friends, and your family. But understand that focusing solely on the violence aspect of national-socialism makes you no better than a degenerate skinhead. Show solidarity with your brothers, and be driven by the flame in your hearts. When you do these things, all other problems will be solved, in time.

This. Violence comes when everyone has a bunk in the barracks, their families have food and roofs over their heads and the organization has begun to take shape. You don't fight and then organize on the battlefield hoping your buddies and family are alright at home.

The best way to fight this is to dress like them, full Black Bloc garb, infiltrate and strike from within. So much harm could be done by an organized (maybe with ear pieces hidden by head scarves) group of us in black, sabotaging their shit from inside their ranks. Just think on it.

I have Rapdom, you can get them for under $40. Best gloves I've ever owned.

If purely causing chaos was our goal, then yes. But I think we need to distinguish ourselves from them. Our people need to be seen as upstanding while the antifags are seen for the degenerate trash they are. This is how to sway public opinion.

So, the Sturmabteilung are primed and ready, but they have noone to protect. pol has no boots on the ground.

How fix?

A leader. We need a leader.

OP forgot that when Hitler finally got power, he had the whole SA executed.

Fuck off, cuckold.

This is a nice discussion lads, but you'd be better off putting your effort into other endeavors, unless you idolize stickfag and think punching a dumpsterthot is how you save our people.

No he didn't, you idiot. Most of them were absorbed into the SS or the wehrmacht.

Why do subhumans like you still allowed to exist? How can you type when you can't even read?

*are

Just think about it. What was Hitler supposed to do with them anyways? They were simply thugs, which were supposed to be thrown away. The SS was far too special to be occupied by simple thugs.
Also had he left them alive, it could have become dangerous to him.

But he didnt kill anyone aside from the SA leaders who were riling them up, you fucking disinfo kike. Not even the kikes lie about this. Kill yourself, filth.

Checked Wikipedia. In 1932 the SA had over 400,000 members, and before the purge over 3,000,000. Only 200 leaders tops were killed. The vast majority of veteran members who'd done the brunt of street fighting were untouched and no doubt held in honor by their countrymen for the duration of the Reich.

I shall become your leader, I shall rally the forces of Holla Forums to victory. Too long have we been pushed into a corner, now its our time to push them into a corner, and eradicate this filth once and for all. This is our time to shine and to kick the pendulum so far right it will never swing back again. We will succeed where others haven't, we have the tools and power. Together brothers, Holla Forums can conquer anything, even the stars!

You need a leader because you're a mindless lemming faggot. What a stupid thing to say. Do you not even grasp that any open opposition is rotted from within almost instantly? Do you not comprehend how a person like Hitler would be arrested for "hate speech" they'll call it disrupting the peace, or violating civil rights and have their political and personal lives completely destroyed instantaneously? Why do you think the only popular people remotely on our side are soft faggots, like Richard Spencer, who can do nothing beyond saying Whites have a right to exist? which I don't need to elaborate on how that's a worthless angle to come from for any public discourse

Figure something out yourself, kiddo. No one's coming to save you.

Name a successful political movement without any leaders/highly influential figures that plebs look to for support. Then kill yourself for being afflicted with a strain of autism so severe that it prevents you from understanding basic human behavior. With no direction and no proper leader to rally behind, shit will stay the same. You offer nothing, so I'll just disregard your little rant.

Just show up, be strong, and the free PR from the media. All of these right wing SA guys appeared out of the air after Stickman.

And if we push the meme that the Berkeley Mayor is literally manipulating the police with threats and orders not to arrest or interfere with "antifa", this should push more people into the fold.

Personally I wouldn't participate unless there was a leader involved who is explicit about ETHNO-nationalism. Whether you like it or not, Richard Spencer is that leader right now, and unless someone else of his ideological clarity and gravitas surfaces I wouldn't bother going.

If you are not willing to risk everything you have for something greater than yourself, then you do not deserve to complain when our people are destroyed.
Look at Leonidas, Charles Martel, Don Pelayo, and Hitler. All of these men put everything on the line in the face of overwhelming opposition. And the incredible thing is that every now and then - one of these heroes wins. That is our job. We're not just going to randomly choose someone to be a leader, we will choose the greatest hero we have.

That is what we must do. Winning this war will be a superhuman effort, but we can win it, and by God I intend to win it. Sometimes a person is caught on legal technicalities, but something they survive. William Pierce managed to survive without any serious lawsuits or criminal charges, so we can do this, we just have to do it carefully. The person who leads us will simply be the hero who is smart enough not to end up bankrupt, imprisoned, or dead. A leader is not simply chosen, he is forged in the face of struggle and adversity. There is no question of if we will have a leader, it is a fact that we will have one.

We'll get many people who seem to care more about using flashy words and stroking their ego over being the "fuhrer" of a movement, and hardly care about the cause. But those don't get far, they simply do not have the determination to sustain a national-socialist group.
I doubt the leader will be me, you, or the person reading this who thinks it's going to be him, but doesn't actually say it, because it sounds ridiculous and egotistical.

I am our leader I am our Alpharius, you are our leader you are our Alpharius
We all Are

Surely there was someone before Hitler, even other politcal organisations. Our ideas will need blood to be shed - our own blood - before we gain traction. That means that a few anons will have to be our leader and horribly fail in order to forge that trail but once we've ground up a few young hopefulls, we'll get our Hitler.

You can be the first sacrifice. Be a leader, blaze the trail, just accept that someone else will get the glory.
in 15 years it'll be worth it though

Richard Spencer starts stumbling and stuttering when he says white people are great and then talks about the value of diversity earnestly like a lefty faggot as opposed to ironically like a proper Ethnonationalist.

Moreover, the majority of American SA at these events are Libertarians, Patriots, and Civic Nationalists. Going full ethnash right away will alienate the troops. Best to go in civnashy, but point out how immigration has ruined parts of the country and that the inner cities have been utterly destroyed by weak policing and how we need to bring back immigration quotas and repeal Hart Celler to deal with it

Prior to Hitler, almost all Nationalist movements were ineffectual because they were ideologically-based instead of philosophically-based. You essentially had the equivalent of fag civ-nats. Hitler was the equivalent of 8/pol/ going into the meetings and flipping the table. Read Mein Kampf.

Explain this in more detail.

pol is our SS, halfchan and normie-deplorables are our SA, we have no leader

not him, but prior nationalist movements said "this particular system will work best".

Hitler didn't care about any particular system, he cared about the German people. He was a hopeless romantic that wanted his people to live free happy healthy productive lives close to nature. Any idea or course of action that furthered this end, he was down to roll with, regardless of what "ideology" it would conventionally be considered to be part of.

He basically said enough pointless theorizing and circlejerking, lets get to work faggots.

someday it'll be great, we'll just use the Phalanx list. On a side note, a bunch of kikes claimed later that they barely survived that purge, typical tricks are endless.


as someone closer to ancap then natsoc, depending on definitions but survival of my race coming first- just don't be the fat guy randomly yelling about niggerlovers or whatever. But be unapologetic about your views. You can have fun arguments over a beer, but unless you're getting trs tradwifetraps on your side, no one who matters will give a fuck. Some boomers will be offended. That's nothing to worry about.

That's part of the point - having infiltrators within their ranks to act as agent provocateurs, and false flags can make them look worse, as we within our own core/ground forces maintain proper levels of dignity and vigilance.

Boomers are a dying powerbase. Gen X and beyond are where hope for change lies.

REEEEEEEEEEEE!

Fuck you, newfag. Many of us have been around and done far more than you. Wanting to categorically get rid of those who have served their Volk far more than your faggot ass is disgraceful.

I can confirm that I use these, and they work very well. I usually practice punching on trees, gloves or no. The kevlar knuckle reinforcement is also good for melee. Punching is generally not preferred by elite operators because you don't want to damage your hands, however, if you need to throw one, it's good to have the right equipment. You are also preserving your hand joints from an odd blow by an opponent in a disorganized brawl.

That sounds about right. They were concerned about power struggles. None of my relatives in NS Germany would have been stupid enough to kill their own veterans. That's on par with the holohoax.

That would be me

Apparently I'm the only one willing to die and go to jail for his people

Piss off, schlomo

Caesar's Legion kept women only as sex slaves. What is this bullshit? Why play dress up if you're not even going to follow lore?

You don't think we are?

(Also it's doubtful the Legion kept that shit up in Legion territory. You need vestal virgins, after all)

Well yeah, in their homelands I'm sure they had them as priestesses as well, but they were forbidden from serving with men in battle. The wasteland was purely a military operation. You don't bring your treasure chest to battle with you.

Yeah. And we don't use women. Antifa does.

To actual name of such a weapon is a sap glove.
Yes, "sap" as in the World of Warcraft rogue attack from stealth.

Bullshit, a weapon is a weapon, intention determines status.

A sap glove, you sap, is full of steel powder or something similar to add mass. F=MA

If someone planned to follow his footsteps exactly that would mean taking some already established group as our nucleus. Even if it started small, it could blow up bigly in the same way brady ranch did if word got out that we'd made in roads somewhere. The problem you'd face then though are two fold.

Firstly you face the issue of logistics, you need somewhere to house and feed all of these people, and on top of that you've got to be able to keep order well enough the nasty girls don't roll in and do it for you, but not so heavy handedly that alphabets wake their sleepers and crash the movement in a bloodbath. This is going to take serious cash, keep in mind legal and hospital fees. As well as a huge corps of administrators and enforcers to keep things running smoothly.

Secondly, it'll be a non stop seige from antifa, niggers, feminists, and every twee nu-male the westcoast can cough up. The media is going to broadcast 24/7 about the nazi deathcamp, and every bloody nose is going to be anuddah shoah. Both the fighting in the street and the propaganda war are going to be vicious and without pause. Advancing to this stage before you've got enough sympathy from the masses is suicide.

Nothing can really happen until a suitable host party can be found, which probably means the left getting BTFO at a local level somewhere, and I don't mean moldilocks getting punched, I mean cops looking the other way as one gets lynched. Then you need a rich powerful backer of some kind, without both money and some political power behind it, you'll get crushed the second you take your first step into the main stream. And lastly if you play your cards too soon, it's the right that will be put at fault. I hate to say it, but the commies need to kill people, at least a few dozen before anyone can hope for that kind of support and infrastructure.

But muh dik, user!

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He did in that very post: Read Mein Kampf.

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The historical problem since WW2. The West has always demanded a leader that stuck out above all others across the Western world at the time. We had hope Donald Trump could lead that charge, but he isn't. The spirit and energy that we embodied him with though is still there just waiting for the right person to take it.

I would caveat this with the fact that in the USA, there are two political parties, and there have been pretty much JUST those two in the last 117 years (sans the Bull-Moose Party). While in Europe, every country has multiple parties, while not all of them are equal in power, think of the recent French elections as an example.

What I am getting at is that in order to "co-opt" a party it would have to be the Republicans or Democrats, as things stand now, third parties haven't been welcome in the USA for over a century and that would make it incredibly hard for people to decide to support. I am not saying it couldn't be done, but that type of thing takes perfect timing and incredible endurance.


The NSDAP didn't start with thousands of followers, much less start a hundred, it started with around 10, then Hitler took it over and over the time period almost 25 years took it from a beer hall group to a political powerhouse. But the NSDAP didn't have all that overhead when it was starting, those people and resources grew organically overtime, naturally.

You don't need to clothe, feed, and board people as a political party, people (Americans) wouldn't want do that anyway, it's never been a part of our history, and the NSDAP didn't do that either, people lived at home and simply supported their local community and each other, they didn't move to a huge compound in the middle of nowhere.

Webm very much related.

I would have given my life for the Fuhrer back then and I'll give my life now for the Truth he spoke.

I do like the idea of taking over the green party.

With the current flow of memetic energy it could work, but the necessary revolution would fail because of the people still being able to cling onto their luxury. We might have to get Weimarer Republik levels of fucked to successfully spark a revolution, but I also might be wrong in that regard.

Me too.

It has the best optics and enviro is a good way to sell natsoc to the normies

Healthy body
Healthy planet
No usury

Hey I was the user who posted the Blueshirt stuff back when this was on halfchan. We are now making general threads.

Reposting here for you guys

fuck right off back to /r/the_donald faggot

Power hungry psychos like you tend to get a bullet in the back.
We work for the good of the volk, not for your petty revenge schemes.

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This ins't 1920s Germany. The American has no association with the workers movements or unions that advanced socialism and thus no love for the socialist/communist red flag. The American movement must be made by and for Americans and not a carbon copy of the NSDAP. Hitler wanted to attract those who were enticed by bolsheviks into his party, there is no comparison between the angry workers of then and the cry-baby anarchist of today.

That's the plan in this thread user:

We need to run with something akin to trad workers party

We need something that says working class, hints at pro-white and environmentally friendly

Needs to have good optics to the media in general, and especially appeal to white working class

yes, we are headed to a beer hall putsch. prepare.
DEHUMANIZE YOURSELF AND FACE TO BLOODSHED. NEVER LOSE COURAGE

That's what we're planning. We are literally blue collared.

I was there, shame it got bumplocked so early.


A good start with the blue shirts would really help. Maybe after they thrash the reds the clean up the mess anarchists always leave behind. Soup kitchens, door-to-door problem solving, community building, volunteer work. And every now and again stomp a red into the pavement, protecting the working class from subversion and poverty. International solidarity could be gained by offering to help the suidlanders in their goals as well.

You could throw footballs at the leftist numales breaking their fingers

For our nation and our people still missing the leader but that will come in time when someone comes out that is worthy

"The Volk" don't benefit from some faggot talking about how we SHOULD end up like South Africa or Western Europe, faggot. Stickman is a race traitor and de-facto a liberal, he's beating up Antifas because they repulse everybody, but aside from that, he's no different than any other pro-Brazil Jew.

I do not want Brazil. I want my own country back. Anyone who stands in the way of that goal will pay when the time comes.

do we banepost or not

Now you may think the construction helmet is a bit dumb but it looks a hell of a lot better than baseball helmets etc and an organization logo could easily be applied.

That being said the hard hat does not look very good. If we could find something affordable that looks similar to the 60s Civil Defense helmets that would be preferred. It's both practical and doesn't look outwardly threatening/tactical.

tl;dr brimmed helmets

It is larpy but most people in the thread are larping so I'll go along with it

red is a winner's color. Always has been, always will be.

you want snowboard or climbing helmets if you just need bump protection.

It doesn't cover the back of the head very well.

fuck that, Holla Forums must become the stig

the main danger is thrown objects.

You don't want to overdo protection or it will encumber you.

Snowboard or climbing, or motorcycle like

Hardhats are cheap and good optics.

Its not about head defense, its about sending a message

Are you suggesting we wear red shirts?

Do you want to look like spanish macho flamanco man

to expand on why hats are good optics

1. working man wears hard hats
2. they don't obscure the face which makes you more trustworthy/likeable

One must master the ability to manipulate the masses for the better while not falling into the trap of materialism and power.

He makes great propaganda (seed) but at the same time we must drop the hammer and separate ourselves from those individuals while teaching the masses of our own why he's a victim of the same enemy he's fighting. Since we're stuck in the emotional realm we have to make use of it.

The real fight is between us and the crypto marxist. All either can do is manipulate the masses until we're the last ones left and then we destroy each other until only one is left standing. The puppet doesn't need to know his role, only that he's fighting for a righteous cause whether he understands it or not that's all any soldier wants.

Please do not reveal that plan to the kikes and shills lurking. We are currently working on that in my local area, growing in the shadows, we have around 20 already. Please do not alert the left like we did with the April 23rd flyer night, two of my guys got assaulted and one got arrested in different spots because someone talked about it and the left got wind of it and had people waiting for us.