What is the most hated leftist idealogy on Holla Forums?
strawpoll.me
I most likely left a few out sorry
What is the most hated leftist idealogy on Holla Forums?
Left out Third-Worldism, but Maoism is close enough.
Arn't they basically the same?
Had feminism been on there it would get enough votes.
>inb4 persecution complex
i wonder who is behind this
You are not a leftist idealogy though, right wing feminists exist
Go to bunkerchan if you want more reasonable discussion
Right wing socialists exist too. It's still generally considered a left tendency.
Centre-left is still left. And besides, there are feminists that deride liberal feminists, critique liberal politics, et c.
Right wing socialist is an oxymoron
Jumbo shrimp is an oxymoron. It doesn't mean that it doesn't exist.
right wing feminist is not an oxymoron though
Eh, some disagree. At this point we're arguing semantics and not real matters of fact, thus obscuring what's at stake when we talk about what is left and what is not.
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This list a shit.
Disagreeing about what is an oxymoron isn't an argument over meanings?
Because it's literally about figures of speech.
Obviously there's a real difference in beliefs between people who believe feminism can be associated with the right and people who believe it can't, that's what the argument really seems to be about.
I never said feminism couldn't be associated with the right. There mere fact that someone has to qualify it as "right wing feminism" however acknowledges that it's generally considered left. Go ahead and ask people if they think feminism is more left than right and you're the former is generally going to be affirmed.
But even from your first post, you brought up feminism in a thread that refers specifically to leftist ideologies, and the discussion with the other user started by him responding to you and saying right wing feminism exists.
It shows that for feminism to be left wing is a given for one person, but another person sees it as both left and right. And I guess you're still making the point now that it's typically left wing.
And I also pointed out that right-wing socialists exist too. Just look at the NazBols on this board who are decidedly mroe right-wing when it comes to issues of niggers. Yet it is still included in the poll.
But this can just lead to another real, non-philological disagreement about whether it's possible to be a right-wing socialist, whether right or left is mostly determined by economics or if it's more abstract and so on.
Forgive me, I am stupid and don't quite get what you are saying now.
The main point is that it's not just semantics, but the way you actually see things. There are lolberts who probably genuinely believe that Hitler was a lefty, not just that Hitler's policies can have the name left-wing applied to them without all the associations that carries over.
When I said "at this point we're arguing semantics" I was meaning more about oxymorons, because when we look at examples of oxymorons it doesn't really tell us the essence of an oxymoron, what an oxymoron truly is, what makes all oxymorons oxymorons, and thus certainly it cannot tell us whether the next set of meanings is or isn't an oxymoron.
Do you also think that feminism isn't left-wing, even if a bit naive?
Now I don't get what you're saying. Left and right are hard to define, because the concepts started out as where people sat, but I'd assume that feminism is left wing.
I just mean that it was quick to say "right-wing feminism" isn't an oxymoron just because it merely exists, or whatever their reasoning, almost as if that were the natural state of feminism (admittedly, feminists are usually quite reactionary; generally the concept of muh muh privilege is reactionary without primacy of class/material analysis)
Hmn…Agreed. At best we know that they're in opposition and exist in a tenuous balance.
Anyway, my head hurts and I should be asleep. Sorry if I've bothered you excessively; hope the rest of your hours are spent in comfort.
Sleep well anfem, thanks for talking.
Back to your torture chamber, Janitor.
Fuck off retard
Tell me user. Where did the bunkerchan admin touch you?
Come on! Now nobody can pick anything else.
Is this some kind of subtle lobbying to get feminism put on the list?
TWism is an insignificant first world trend. The vast majority of Maoists aren't TWists
leftcoms then.
why so much hate everywnereeeeeeee
like, we should all hug and love each other, maan
Redundant, Luxembourgism is Left-communism.
:-(
Definitely either Juche or National Bolshevism.
I give Maoists a lot of shit but at least they're socialists.
I knew I'd win.
Look, more sectarianism! Stop it. We don't want a divided left.
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I voted ML tho, because MLs have done actual damage to the legitimacy of the communist movement by having relevant political power and influence on popular discourse.
The mainstream also considers Obama and Hillary "left". What about this damage? At least MLs are sort of genuine, are they not?
I'm pretty disappointed that leftcoms aren't the most hated tbh. I mean, all these hates threads and we didn't even get first place. What the hell?
*third place
We love you guys ideologically, we just think you're autistic and ineffective
So you only half hate us? I feel so empty. :(
Why should we care about what people in general perceive as 'left' or not? Communists don't care about this petty categorization. What communists care about is the left that explicitly utilizes the term 'communist' and associates itself with it despite not showing any communism in practice, rhetoric or even character. This is the case with MLs, whom are either busy defending 20th century social democracies without the democracy, or advocating for social democracy without democracy, all while using the moniker of 'communist'.
Yeah, what's up with that? Especially lately, you'd expect us to get all the heat considering we've been coming out in full force bullying opportunists and illiterates.
Luxemburgism 0%
PRAISE LUXEMBURG
There's a difference between all those?
I was expecting to get more hate tbh
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To be honest I like reading you guys' posts. I take the time to read your tl;dr ones because they're good for making me consider my own thought processes
+1 for anarcho-nihilism
smh
Also, kys
same @ u my fam
What should I read to get an introduction to anarcho-nihilism?
Aragorn!'s texts are a good place to start:
theanarchistlibrary.org
theanarchistlibrary.org
fuck your inb4. Absolute persecution complex.
You're only hated because one guy with that flag was a huge faggot with really shit memes. Otherwise you're alright.
why are there different ideologies for these?