ITT we list successful non-vanguardist revolutions

ITT we list successful non-vanguardist revolutions.

I'll start:

If you honestly think the Soviet Union can be resurrected, then you are even more delusional than neo-nazis that want to resurrect the Third Reich.

I do love Slavoj Zizek's comment that 20th century communism was a total failure.
And I love how he mocks stupid marxists that support Cuba.

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Tbh October was the only vanguardist success as well, and it was a very very partial success (otherwise we wouldn't have this discussion).

also China; Vietnam; Cuba; North Korea; also every successful socialist nation had some form of a vanguard party

No communist revolution there.

kek

Explain how cuba was not socialist then

I have a better idea: you explain how it qualifies as a classless, stateless, moneyless society.

Nigger can't (and won't) even describe how the working class controlled the means of production and politics in it.

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OP stalinism failed massively to bring about socialism. Why would you cling on to it as a victory apart from proof of what to improve on and how not to make mistakes?

Vanguardism, OK, fine, but stalinism like in China and DPRK? Come on.

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Lenin, The State and Revolution:

K. Marx, Critique of the Gotha programme:

Catalonia

Check and mate.

wew.


Catalonia, just like all anarchist-led experiments, was just as much of a failure as Stalinism, if not a much bigger one in that it was unsuccessful in even actualizing its own goals of establishing a syndicalist territory and struggled to barely get by using state power before ultimately being destroyed.

The CNT-FAI was highly vanguardist and used some of the exact same strategies as the early Bolsheviks.

ITT: We list Vanguardist revolutions that established socialism

I'll start:

This is basically what I meant when I said
>using state power
because, really, the revolution in Catalonia was a period of insane amounts of political repression through state use, complete with a secret police, labor camps, a judicial system, etc. Exactly like Makhno's free territory.

Makhno also had secret police, nearly identical to the Cheka.

His buddies also terrorized Jews.

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Vanguardism is the only way out