Venezuela creates Hugo Chavez peace prize, awards to Russia's Putin
reuters.com
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Venezuela creates Hugo Chavez peace prize, awards to Russia's Putin
Xavier Russell
Brandon Russell
Well, now I feel like an idiot for having hope in venesuala
Elijah Gomez
you're an idiot
Luke Sullivan
You know isolationism does not work unless you have nukes right?
Jackson Bell
What the fuck Maduro? lmao
Tyler Reed
Why?
If Russia had responded to NATO expansion and imperial wars with the same mentality of those behind NATO, we'd already be in WW3.
Whatever else you want to say about Russia and its current leadership, when it comes to geopolitics they have been the only ones even remotely reasonable while we on the other hand have politicians living in fantasy land while insisting on invading, conquering and expanding their markets and resource hegemony over the entire bloody world.
I'd suggest watching some Stephen F. Cohen interviews, on the matter.
If there is one thing which I would say, is highly annoying about Putin - it's that he plays along with the US-NATO narrative too much. In other words, they're putting out a hand saying shit like "We should work against these terrorists together", like some sort of future imperial 'alliance'; and somewhat support the bullshit propaganda about Al Qaeda's second coming (IS), beyond the historical reality of it - mercenaries supported and created by the US and NATO nations, to begin with. (the problem with them has nothing to do with Islam, for instance)
Dominic Walker
Stop The War Coalition pls go.
Russia is as imperialist as America, at least America isn't outright annexing territory
Liam Murphy
cyka blyat
+10 rubles
Oliver Ross
Everything Russia has done recently is being done to preserve their scraps of empire that remained from the USSR. Just because they are on the defensive doesn't mean they are the good guys.
Dominic Parker
kys tankie
Henry Lopez
As imperialist as America? How many military bases does the US have across the globe? 800+
Who has been engaged in wars of conquest constantly since the end of WW2? The US, and NATO.
What the fuck are you on about. MSM shill pls go.
Same goes for you. Go pickup your 10 bucks from the nearest US military base. Maybe they'll let you suck their dick.
Carter Gutierrez
I'm not a tankie, nor do I "support" Russia or have any illusions about them being "leftist".
There is one empire in the world today, it is the US and NATO is its shield of justification, even though the reason for NATO's existence (an opposition to the Warszaw pact), doesn't even exist anylonger.
Jesus, you really are military shills.
Ayden Young
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Carson Brown
Just because America is more successful than Neo-Tsarist Russia at establishing dominance doesn't mean they're worse intentioned
And the Russia/USSR, see the Hungarian Revolution, Prague Spring, Afghanistan, Georgia, Crimea, Syria.
As shit as it is at least the MSM isn't literally owned by the government unlike Russia Today
Colton Ross
I'm not shilling for Russia you brainwashed Ameriburger sympathizer. You are shilling for continued, endless war and expansion of the US empire. What the fuck?
Joshua Wilson
You can think they're both bad you useful idiot retard.
Matthew Green
everything you've described about NATO can be applied to russia. its just that russia isn't even good at imperialism
Hudson Baker
You know damn well that isn't how the tactic your employing now is being used. It's used specifically to give a backdrop of "Well yea, I don't like war… but damn those [ENEMY HERE], I guess we kind of have to."
No, nothing I've described can be applied to Russia. Or any other country in the world. NATO was a defensive treaty, it scrapped that idea after the cold war ended and turned towards invasion tactics, based on RTP, solely to expand markets and hegemony. It expanded where it said it would not expand, and it stands currently as nothing but a tool to be used by the modern day empire. Which is the US, not Russia, nor China, nor any other nation.
There is zero comparison, and the fact that you even think so ("oh they have like… 4 bases outside their territory, mostly via diplomatic deals… totally the same as 800 and more bases placed via invasions and military conflict" shows how brainwashed you fucking are.
Justin Mitchell
this is why you a goldmine, pls don't ever change
Carson Williams
Putin also received the first Confucius Peace Prize, aka the price China made when they got butthurt over Liu Xiabou getting the nobel peace price.
Isaac Taylor
see file
Frankly, we should have intervened in Crimea. It's got nothing to do with empire, just national defense. That's one of the only legitmate uses for an army. We should be vigilant against Russia. That's not the same as interventionism.
As for the anti-NATO shilling, imperialist military action, fine, but why the fuck do the Eastern Bloc states not have the right to join when Russia is such a shitty belligerent neighbour?
William Ross
sounds like russia
Jordan Anderson
Both countries are anti-imperialist. I don't see the problem.
Cooper Hernandez
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Jeremiah Richardson
and that somehow makes it ok to give awards to conservative and imperialist people?
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so that's why russia is literally annexing countries to prove that they are no imperialist
lulz
Henry James
Venezuela has private enterprise you illiterate.
Xavier Harris
Uh… the US and EU/NATO are what funded, supported and caused the entire issue in Ukraine… 'we should have intervened'? We already were, we were the fucking cause of the mess.
bbc.com
This is the kind of shit we were 'doing it' for, that and pushing NATO's borders even farther. While actual resistance within the Ukraine… actual leftists, were killed off, by actual fascist movements that US/EU/NATO supported.
Here's how that shit was reported as a striking comparison.
Reuters:
www.reuters.com/article/us-ukraine-crisis-odessa-fire-idUSBREA410RP20140502
(make the focus first about them supposedly being "Pro Russians", don't mention trade unionists in the headline, etc. mention it as a "clash" not a fascist pro-capitalist purge against commies and leftists)
RT:
rt.com
The LEFTISTS are getting killed by the people "you" are supporting. The forces supported are pro-empire, pro ethnic nationalists fascists, that have no problems with capitalism.
Joshua Young
lol k
Samuel Miller
That line looks about right. You have to exclude Australia, though.
Annexing parts of a country that is cozying up to NATO is anti-imperialist.
Lincoln Gray
Capitalism is just the production of commodities through wage labor enforced by property rights for the purpose of producing a profit and capital reinvestment.
Daniel White
Like donbass?
Nathaniel Ortiz
Resistance to government decrees that are ethno-nationalist and fascist in nature, makes you an ethno-nationalist for opposing it?
Talk about ever self-justifying logic for aggression.
Liam Peterson
and it started in the 16th century
Carter Reed
Dude, they just gave Putin a prize because he built a statue in honor of Chavez
Thomas Baker
I don't know how anyone can think that there's any hope on Venezuela being socialist when there are things that fuck the workers over like cesta ticket (food bonuses, which can only be spent on supermarkets and shit like that. they're 2/3 of the wage now.)
Kevin Walker
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Asher Fisher
I WANT TANKIES FROM REDDIT TO LEAVE
Easton Nelson
I'm surprised anyone on this board would have supported a NATO intervention in Crimea like . Anti-imperialism doesn't mean "let's support one imperial power's land claim over another" but to oppose all imperial interventions.
Not only that, but a NATO intervention could have led to nuclear war with Russia. Maybe that poster was a Posadist, though.
Andrew Campbell
Wanting to keep your own country together against an invasion by a foreign power isn't an 'imperial land grab'. Are you dumb?
Caleb Hall
Hey, can I borrow your time machine? I know you have to get back to World War 1 and attend some Social Democratic meetings so you can shill for imperialist powers, but I really do need it.
Henry Hughes
Don't turn this place into a hole like Holla Forums where you just ignore what an user say and straw man accuse them of being a shill.
The guy is obviously not even remotely in favour of Russia, and is merely pointing out how they are in no way comparable to the USA/NATO despite how bad they are.
Fucking hell this place sometimes.
Leo Hall
As a matter of fact, it is. As a proletarian, your country is the world and your only nation, the proletariat itself. Your local bourgeois state is a foreign power just as much as the one that may try to replace it.
Gabriel Rivera
Sure man, I think you might have a more pressing need to go back to 1938 and argue for appeasement of Hitler.
Parker Bell
I should build a statue of chavez and get a prize.
I am arguably more worthy of a commie prize than putin.
