Why do people describe the Nazis as 'far-right'? What scale are they using? The only scale on which I have them far right also has ancaps further left than hippies, otherwise they're in the center and not at all 'far-right'. What's the deal?
Why do people describe the Nazis as 'far-right'? What scale are they using...
They are right wing, and authoritarian. They're not literally all the way at the end of the right wing spectrum, they're like half way between the end and centrism.
don't get hung up on the whole left right thing.
it seems everyone has their own definition because muh speshul snowflake
Militarism, nationalism, privatization etc all considered right wing.
I've got a task for you OP: choose an approximate location of nadsis on political compass.
Corporatist police states belong authoritarian center. Why?
On what scale, is my question.
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they opposed the left wing and had strong support among the aristocrats and the bourgeois.
they are right wing by virtue of not being left wing, the "far" in "far-right" refers to the radical policies, like genocide. Ultra conservative could be a better term, militant nostalgia over some shit that was never real.
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Not a scale. It's a dichotomy.
A dichotomy would imply that there is a statement that applies to one and not the other, one that is so distinct that it separates the ideals entirely. Also if it's a dichotomy and not a scale, how can anything but communism and Nazism be described as either left or right wing?
In this post you make the left-right distinction seem entirely arbitrary. If that's the case, why is it used at all in academia?
It really is. As you are noticing, the sliding scale describes nothing in particular. There are ideological spheres that have certain similarities with other ideologies, but it makes little sense to try to graph them on a straight line.
Because people insist upon using it as though it describes anything. It also serves to draw a distinction between two branches of liberalism that are, for all practical purposes, not different in the slightest.
I'd argue it is, there is no objective criteria separating left and right, but it's still useful because it describes a divide that exists in the real world. Take Trump, he gets support both from libertarians and nazis, why? They are in theory complete opposites, yet they still rally around him.
yes, but since the divide is arbitrary the statements are subject to change, perhaps saying the right wing is more conservative than the left wing is a pretty universal truth, but only inside of the political system they both belong to. The left wing in one country can be more conservative than the right wing of another country.
I think you have to look at the history of each movement if you want to understand why it's considered right wing or left wing.
Tbh the left-right dichotomy really only makes sense when applied to economics, since if it applied to authoritarian vs libertarian or progressive/regressive (socially speaking) then Ancraps would be left wing and tankies would be right wing.
This isn't the National Assembly, it's time to stop.
I think "far right" is a stupid label that only useful for those with a liberal democratic worldview.
The commie scale should be as follows:
revolutionary > progressive/potentially sympathetic > reactionary
These titles don't matter. Not Socialism, under Adolf Hitler, opposes both "sides" of the spectrum by doing away with this unnecessary division. It is what is best for the nation that matters, not which way it leans.
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Yes, remember when they created Harzburg Front and then coalition government with DNVP? Those were the times!
Amerifags really have no idea…
Burgers deserve all the ISIS they get
Actions taken that could be identified as right wing and left wing by outsiders are done with the nation in mind. Regardless, the Not Socialist does not care about this spectrum and thus is free to do what is needed without political discrimination.
Hitler definitely did much more "right-wing" policies than the "left-wing" ones, in case of politics he persecuted people considered left-wing(SPD and KPD) while allying with right-wingers(DNVP) In case of economics he was a corporatist, which was in the context of interwar period and widespread anti-capitalism not something unusual among "non-leftists". During armed conflicts, be it Spanish Civil War, Finnish war or obviously WWII Hitler was always allying with those who were more right-wing. And then there is the Night of the Long Knives, aka purge of left-wing of NSDAP.
I'm not saying that left/right dichotomy isn't shit, but saying Nazis didn't have a certain preference on that spectrum is plain silly.
This is the most American post I've read in a while.