Berserk Musou

There's a Japanese interview with Koei Tecmo that reveals a bit of information.

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From what I'm understanding, this means the game doesn't rely on the anime, you can get the whole story from the game itself.

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Makes sense they would go for Golden Age, being as that's the part with the most actual battles.

Any censorship is of course a never touch. Everyone knows the west are fucking puritans, the japanese economy really needs to improve so they tell the west to fuck off and do whatever they want.

They better stick to their guns and not censor anything. I'm sure the bitch niggas from NeoFAG will cry their eyeballs out when it's released.

what is this feeling
am I actually getting hype?

It's on consoles so it will be censored. Not interested unless the go full AO.

They can downplay the few rape scenes for all I care but they better not pussy out on the gore.

Still, this is good news. There's nothing worse than putting people in charge of projects who don't care about the source material.

it's already too late

And the most story, and the most everything.

well it wasn't going to be the fucking boat

Why not censor both to appease everyone ;^)

I don't know the franchise, is rape an important thing?

That doesn't compute, unless they're going to just rush through Golden Age or the game's going to be long as fuck.
bleh

It is, it's used as a plot point once but doesn't happen all that much. I'd be fine with it not being very explicit like in the manga.

Berserk was never about gore and nudity.
Like a lot of other lesser known mangas and less mainstream western comic books it uses explicit content to accentuate world and characters' interactions with said world and between each other, not to make it the focus.

If you guys really care about devs not showing nipples, or reducing gore, I'm afraid you fail to grasp the focus of either Berserk or Musou games.

Guts fighting horrendous abominations with inhuman strength and endurance is manifestation of his personality, of his desire to be his own man, to have his own dream, to become his friend's equal, and after said friend's betrayal his strive to both avenge his friends and put an end to villainous deeds of apostles.
Proper transition of this struggle and overcoming human capabilities into gameplay form is the focus of this game, or in my opinion it should be.

Is mousou formula better for it than say something like Souls franchise or Dragon's Dogma? I don't think it is, but then again Gundam musou turned out to be the best gundam-based video game sub-series after VS in a long fucking time, while failing to be even remotely a gundam game.

So even if they fail to make it relevant to Berserk in anything, but franchise, but still manage to make blood musou game with dismemberment and blood mechanics like in BB and Dark Souls 3, why the fuck not? I play games for fun in the end, not to make sure they are accurate to whatever source material they might have.

Censorship as part of "localizing" is however absolutely unacceptable on all levels

I wish they was more Comicss like Apocalypse Zero

Sucks to be you Jim Bob, not everyone is murican

sucks to be you eurofag, most Americans make the games you play
And it's their tastes that cause japs to censor shit

maybe if your shit country tried a little harder the world would cater to it's tastes

I am sick and tired of the beginning of Berserk being remade over and over again.

As in the game starts at the end of the Golden Age arc, or at the beginning of it?

Because
Golden Age was almost exclusively fighting other humans. They only fought a handful of Apostles, like Zodd or Rapeface McGee.

No it's the anglos that are extremely prudish

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What characters do we all want, besides the obvious choices? Judeau would be cool

I wish the internet didn't frown on petitions, because I'd love to get a trans-Pacific petition going with the US and Japan both rallying to piss off everyone and keep all of it in, the gore, the tits, everything.

Maybe the start with the rape.

Apocalypse Zero is one of the most idealistic pure black-and-white super hero story I've ever read.
You would expect explicit shit from deconstructions and some other edgy shit, but it's wondrous how blood, sex and gore manage to make AZ feel like a proper full-on straight and naive super hero story about justice, love and faith in humanity.

that is law in japan though, cannot show nipples or penis.

japan is weird man.

at least the western would love the cucking part with Casca

Bazuso

You just shot yourself in the foot nigger.
Tits and gore is absolutely necessary in a Berserk game.

nah nipples are fine lad is just penises and vaginas. you don't watch very much japanese porn do you user.

I bet you think Griffith was a good guy too.

Dude, stop lying to the guy.

This.

And enough of the golden age, it's not what people like about Berserk.
I swear, if the new anime doesn't skip golden age I'm gonna re-enact hiroshima.


He is just pointing out that even if berserk is not about tits and gore, tits and gore are an important part of it, as you said yourself.

no he didnt, he just wanted to fuel the war with more damn orphans.

This
I want Black Swordsman with insane fights against overpowered apostles

Golden age is the only part of Berserk with any characters other than Guts worth playing

The new anime is already confirmed for picking up after Golden Age.
And I like the Golden Age plenty. It might not be the best arc, but it's up there. Every arc has something I enjoy, to be honest.

When did he do this?
They were all 100% a-ok with going into battle to die for Griffith

smh tbh fam


Golden age is not bad and it's definitely necessary to the series, but it's not what people think when they think berserk. With the old anime and recent movies being all about the golden age, having even more stuff about it would be overkill.


He started doing everything wrong when he slept with the princess, before that it was all just business.

A dark skinned woman being banged by a white dude? No way. If was a darkie on a blue eyed blonde then they'd love it.

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Cuckoldry is liberal-approved only when it portrays a highly specific dynamic; a Californian blonde slut hopping on top of a hormone-overdosing nog to spite her enabling nu-male provider.

A tiny womanly albino like Griffith overpowering and forcing himself on a brown-as-varnished-wood musclegirl like Casca is a direct violation of their every view and hope for the world, and that's why I'm praying for this to come out unlocalized and shove that scene in everyone's faces.

you mean in game then
becuase in anime nipples were normal before the manga law

You mean anglofags

Are you retarded or something?
She was raped retarded by a demonic manifestation of destiny, not willingly fucking other guys in front of Guts with his approval.

He's not actually wrong. There's a difference between real cuckolding, and a cuckold fettish.

Surely that would be a rape fetish then.

For fuckers who may miss it. Golden Age Arc before Griffith cucked Guts. Before there was demons galore. So I am hoping that the game goes further into story

I think fantasising about your woman being raped still counts as a cuck fettish.
I don't know, man. Degeneracy is complicated.

If you're talking about Black Swordsman and Guardians of Desire, those happened ina flashback. Golden Age encompasses the period between Guts' youth to the Eclipse.

Fags are already losing their shit over the teaser.
Good stuff.

That's what I've been saying. I hope the game is fun.

I hope we get to play as Griffith.

I imagine that they will tone down the gore in Japan, but I'm not sure if the West will get toned down with its sexual content. GTA V had plenty of it and maintained its M rating.

Is there a release date yet?

yah in 7 years

AAA western games get a pass from the ESRB. Japanese games are looked at more harshly. Same with twitch. Senran Kagura has no nudity or sex, but it got banned for a time, but would they ever think of banning GTA or Dragon's Age with have nudity and sex scenes?

Are they going to do the boat arc?

I think the boat arc should be 95% of the game.

Jokes on you I would play the shit out of it.

They're simplifying the process by introducing the IARC system. I'm not sure how detailed the questionnaires are, but I'm sure that if the devs fill it out correctly, that it will allow the ESRB to look at the game much more gently.

globalratings.com

I mean sure, a lot of battles and alternate timelines will take place in the Golden Age, especially if GRIIIIIFFIIIIIIITH and company are available to play, and I'm 98% sure we'll see Golden Age Casca as a playable character toi but that's like, what, maybe a 1/10 of everything in Berserk?

While I'll be cautiously optimistic for this game, it isn't exactly like a Musou /Warriors game formula is easy to Fuck up. Get as many of the cast as playable characters as you can (shouldn't be hard, half the cast is a hardened warrior / demon). Stick to the story then have plenty of alternate timelines and battles to play all these characters. Give said characters plenty of ways to kill someone, and a few good dialog lines to round out their regular and special moves. Throw in alternate costumes, upgrades, item farming and gear and you're pretty much set to make the game.

I just pretty much summed up Hyrule Warriors, which was a pretty decent time

Is this going to be a musou game

The game's tile is Berserk Musou in japan, you tell me user.

sorry

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y'know I'm fine with the trailer in all but why did they choose a rape scene to advertise their game?
is it like hatred where they just want to stir up controversy? i just dont understand.
berserk for me at least is about dark fantasy so is that why the scene was chosen instead of an action scene or something similar?
not trying to argue or anything, just curious.
>inb4 i get called sjw or Holla Forums

The eclipse and Casca being raped is the catalyst for everything after the golden age arc
It's not about controversy, it's that its one of the most important things to happen in the story

That part in the forest where Guts fights 100 soldiers will be so tame now.

it's the single most important plot point in the series

That's the moment he went "berserk"…

my mistake, i didn't see it like that.

Have you ever been so mad you chopped off your own arm with a broken sword?

Wow, took you long enough. Too bad SJWs will never see it past the rape and what it actually means for the entire story.

Only once.

Wow he truly was a Berserk™ developed by Omega Force® and published by Temco®

I read Berserk for the nudity (male and female) and gore.

Checkmate.

yeah, a couple times

It all sounds promising save for this part.


I'm sure the gore will be censored in Japan while the West gets the full thing. They'll probably censor the rape scene though. Are there any other instances of rape in the Golden Age arc aside from Casca? It's been awhile.

Also, I'm not all that familiar with the musou genre, but how focused on story do the games tend to be? The first thing I think of when I look at Dynasty Warriors is definitely not the plot. There's plenty to work from in this case, but I feel like it might be a little too much if they're going to cover the entire arc. Maybe the game will start during one of the battles in the war then go into some flashbacks. All this leading up to the Eclipse with something of an epilogue that leads into the Black Swordsman arc and allows the player to go berserk.

There is a scene of trolls raping women in a big orgy. The fuck are you talking about?

Rape horse, the trolls, the goat thing with the snake dick

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im sorry what?

no dont remember, when was that?

Is all that in the manga during the GA? I have only seen the anime, but I'm reading it right now. No bully.

Guts himself is raped in the first few chapters. I doubt they're going to have his childhood play into it much since it's such a short part of the story, but it is there.

Hell, maybe they could have a segment where you play as young Guts in his Bazuso-slaying days, with some cutscenes leading up to the fight that cover his brief stint in the fudge packing industry.

No, keep on reading though. At least you will never know the pain that is 10 YEARS ON A FUCKING BOAT AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

It would make for a good tutorial segment.


Already on Chapter 3, baby.

wylad, the second demon we see. his dick looked like it came out of a dr.seuss book in my opinon

It was during the St. Albion arc with the Egg Apostle.

During the tower arc with Mozgus there was a cult hiding nearby who worshipped a goat head guy. One of the random peasant girls brought Casca to the meeting just before all the shit with the Behelit guy becoming Griffith's new body went down and goat head man became a real demon and grew a snake cock.

I think it happens in conviction. Its that part where the heretics bring Casca who they believe is a witch or something
He gets turned into a goat demon later and guts kills him

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Berserk at its best guys.
Untame shit like this is why i love the manga.

ah yes, i remember now, sort of
thx

I want a convection arc level, because.

and

I won't bully for not reading the manga.

I'll bully you for being a filthy Griffith apologist

get your shit together, user.

youre joking right?

Oh shit

They would if there was a game with the Conviction arc

I want to play as Pippin.

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My god I feel despair

Everybody has a dream, user. Like people, some dreams are greater than others. These dreams often require the highest amount of suffering and sacrifice. The rest lays in the hands of fate.

Honestly, it's kind of hard for me to outright hate Griffith. I feel he's just as relatable as Guts is in his pursuit/desire for something more. It seems people don't want to admit it.

You mean Puck right?

No you fucking don't

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I feel sorry for his wife's son.

Naw Nipples are fine in media in general. However in Japan video games specifically are not allowed to show nipples it's why Link has no nipples in the new Zelda game. PC games are a whole separate thing which is why Japanese porn games are pretty much exclusively for PC. With consoles just having ecchi stuff.

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No the giga nigga with a big fuck off mace.

RIP

If I have to import this cocksucker to get an uncut version, I will. This month I finish paying off my debt, and I can start saving for a PS4. I have a PS3, but I want a PS4.

did you just start playing video games yesterday or something?

and let``s not forget


They fans alright


No, I just always expected the worst, and now they got me with my guard down

can't see shit
Do you have a bigger version ?

user stop posting thumbnails with text.

I fucked up again

No. Being willing to sacrifice everything to fulfill my dream is bullshit, because I can't be that selfish. What's more, there was no need to rape Casca, that was total bullshit too.

Griffith deserves a fucking bullet.

That thing was too small to be called readable. It was more like a picture for ants.

Also

>is a dick afterwards

I admit I'm a bit biased towards him because Takahiro Sakurai is his VA.

Griffith is a psychopath, not a sociopath. There's a few subtle differences.

Imagine if they just gave guts an AR15 would the Berserk world react to modern weaponry like the Fables or Gate worlds did?

Considering that Guts still can't one-shot kill things with his cannon, I don't see it putting him overthetop. An AR-15 is significantly weaker than a cannon ball, but it has greater range.

So I don't see an AR-15 gun arm replacing his cannon arm suddenly making the difference and allowing him to rape.

quality joke my guy

This is a joke right?
I know this is NeoFag, but Jesus Christ.
Why read Berserk in the first place?

Fuck you, Schierke is a great character, and she deserves to get Guts' dick more than any other character does.

I'm going to assume they didn't actually read it. Maybe they saw the anime, and never got to the end.

Miura is too content for more eclipses

Every board that has had captcha disabled has been flooded with CP bots.

Why?

No, fuck you, guts+ceska+moonchild, no forced loli made by the guy that cant stop playing idolmaster.

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I don't see how that is a good thing.

Every single character fron Guts party aside from Casca and the Vatican couple are iredeemable shit.
Rickert should be the one there being put out to the challenge of fighting Apostles and being challenged into deciding between Guts companionship or his blind old school faith in Griffith.

Instead we get a bunch of characters we dont give a fuck about, fanservice and Chibi up the ass by the fairies.

Why

Certified loli Mary Sue with barely any depth.
Shes a fucking cardboard cutout.

Even Farnese and Serpico became shit after Schierke was introduced. Remember how Serpico used to be a tricky guy who was able to just barely go toe to toe with Guts because he trained his ass off and picked his battlefields to exploit his opponent's weaknesses? Then he just started floating around shooting wind lasers at everyone because Schierke gave him a magic cape and sword.

this all sounds great until you remember the nature of musou, especially KT musou

His dream was to rise from nothing and have everything, something that is extremely relatable. His actions may be questionable, but look at some of the greatest individuals/rulers throughout histroy. They all got there with sacrifice, and in some cases, even death. You would have to be very naive to believe that Griffith's dream would end in any other way. I also got the impression that Griffith wasn't aware of that either. Hence his reaction to his deeds right before his transformation. This also raises the question whether man is capable of obtaining this power without losing his humanity. The show couldn't stress this enough.

>What's more, there was no need to rape Casca, that was total bullshit too.

I'm not condoning it, but look at things from his point of view. You've been abandoned. You've lost everything. You've suffered. You've been reduced to nothing. Griffith was visibly hurt by his friends, as unintentional as it may be, so his actions upon being reborn during the eclipse were not surprising.


He obviously loved the man. Not necessarily in a sexual manner, but he actually cared for him despite his cold manner. Was his reaction to Guts leaving all because his feelings of superiority were broken? I don't think so. And when they rescued him and he became completely helpless and noticed things like Guts and Casca, that drove him completely over the edge. I'm not saying he did nothing wrong, but there are some things about him that are relatable or delve into the darker part of human existence. Dismissing him as a complete psychopath is underselling his entire character and what he represents.

That feel when i liked Isidoro until mira went full retard with his hardon for lolis.

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I liked that actually, changing dur to Casca and all.
If Miura still has anything besides Idolmaster and moe in his fucking brain he will make her relapse.


Schierke ruined everything because it actually gave you hope.
I could see something like finding a badass flawed character with a huge backstory to give sense to his powerful weapon/skill.

Instead we get the most forced fucking thing.

The whole thing is starting to feel like fucking Mad Max 3.

well the eclipse is where the series really kicks it into high gear, that part especially

also KT isn't afraid of tits and ass and they are cruel people who make mediocre games and want me to see best girl get raped braindead again

My only reply to you is you're fucked in the head if this is your mindset.

Yeah but the thing was Griffith is he could have gotten fucking everything he wanted if he just kept doing what he was doing. However instead he fucked the princess and ruined his entire life thanks to his HIS OWN FUCKING STUPIDITY. Then he takes revenge on the people who saved his fucking life because he ruined all his own prospects.

user…

Also it was probably all about the superiority, if the scene by the fountain was anything to go by
Maybe he was just worried Guts would take another one of his pawns with him?

Also confirmed when Guts meets him after the party

There already was hope in the setting, and for most of the characters involved. Farnese had already broken with the church in an effort to learn more about the world before Schierke came around. She was already taking care of Casca, Guts was already mellowing out, there was plenty of hope that things would get better for everyone. Schierke just sped all that shit up retardedly by just straight up telling Farnese about all the mysterious magical shit going on in the world and handing out OP magical items like they grew on trees.

I thought Griffith raped Caska because he needed her child to be born so he could later return to human form.

There was a time before that when only his burning hate kept him alive and he barely thought about anything else other than killing things.

Remember in lost children where he is about to cut a innocent girl in two just to kill moth loli a little quicker?

Also a superiority thing with Guts

nah, he almost forgot about her until he went back and found out that she ran away

Griffith was te cause of his own downfall be cause he got spiritually castrated by gut's refusal to follow him.
Hes just a little bitch, he fucked the princess out of spite, and raped ceska, the only woman guts ever loved as a way to punish them both for not wanting to follow his desires, hes a horrible person.

I hope it all is an elaborate ruse to justify Guts's earlier cynicism when his JRPG party dies and to get the story back on track speeding towards its conclusion.

Not to mention the only reason Guts even left Griffith was because he overheard Griffith talking about how he could never respect someone who doesn't make their own way.

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Only because everyone was telling him, "you totally forgot about her because you when on a killing spree for several years"

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He didn't forget about her he just thought she would be safe with Rickert and the old man while he went off and got revenge. Then when he came back and found out that wasn't the case he immediately decided to go out and fix her.

I honestly don't see what all the hype is.

With all the shit that happens to past characters and the world it just feels like they are naive on your POV.
Then the manga just repeatedly punches you in the face by blatantly raping consistency and killing your suspension of desbelief with the feats they make without any training or equipment.
When the magical items were presented I was somewhat hopeful for the characters but it felt so fucking wrong how forced they were and how subsequent battles/fights lacked tension and made the characters more one dimensional as a consequence of that.

I was hoping for at least more backstory, especially since they were on a fucking boat with nothing to do but nothing comes out of it.
Most of the party is still quirky character number 17.

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Honestly I feel that way about any action scene in any manga ever. Bunch of fucking ACTION LINES that just look like big scribbles and shit all over the page, and I study the panel for 2 minutes trying to figure out what the character just did.

In the end, I figure "it must be " then I go see what others have to say about the chapter – AND THEY HAVE A TOTALLY DIFFERENT INTERPRETATION.

Fuck action lines.

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Japs actually learned ultraviolence and magic of tits in comics from franco-belgian stuff. It's the anglosphere and germony that started to push for censorship like crazy cucks.

Personally, I don't think there's enough rape in Berserk.

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The whole manga should have been about these one time characters and encounters with the Griffith side plot as Guts gets better equipment.
At the end they all try to change the world or something and help out Guts.

Im ok with the JRPG party, but I think the above worked much better in the earlier chapters.
The problem with the JRPG characters is that its poorly done.

Read on user.

Gut's sort of forgot about the whole protect thing…

Also the story doesn't really begin until the Golden age arc

They're keeping the behelit around for a reason, There will come a moment where Guts has to seriously consider sacrificing his party.

Nope.

Gut's is legally dead according to the God hands forms and Puck keeps saying it's his.

I think Sloan only gave him that offer to fuck with him

You really gotta just power through to at least the start of Golden Age, the art in the early chapters is super rough and not helped by the scans from back then all being pretty ass in quality.

Ill take your word for it, I kind of gave up and assumed it was another generic edgy manga.

hell got through Naruto, may as well sit through this.

Calling it now; Religious Nut Lady is going to sacrifice her fucboi.

Good, Golden age is less about edgy fighting and more about why you should like and dislike people.

Gets pretty edgy sometimes though

Guts is an insufferable edgelord in the opening chapters. He gets better later.

Puck is going to sacrifice the whole Elf Island and reveal he was working for the Godhand since the beginning.

Someone hasnt read the opening chapters

At one point he says the line "people who can't defend themselves deserve to die".

I wonder how are they going to put this in a game.
I bet its going to be all cutscenes

Okay. I'm not sure what mindset that would be, but thanks for that well thought out reply. Again, I'm not condoning his actions. Only analyzing his character beyond "He's fucking crazy!!!"

Who's to say that would have been enough? He's obviously messed up to the moon and back, and I'm sure there would have been some other instance of him fucking up. That's just how flawed he is. This is also where the whole fate thing comes in place. There's a reason why he was chosen. He possessed all the necessary traits needed to be born again during the eclipse. You can call him a horrible person, that wouldn't be too far off, but I would argue that he was also a victim of cruel fate.

I always thought that this was the naivety of his character during the Golden Age arc. He says that a friend would be somebody his equal, and Guts eventually proved this. Which hurt Griffith all the more when he realized he just lost his friend.

Look at that face and tell me that is not a man who is broken inside and is protecting himself by being a dick to everyone

And we learn that later, but to begin with he just seems like a massive cunt.

Its all a facade and a response to his hard chilhood and emotional devastation.
He doesnt even fool himself.

What cruel fate Griffith makes it absolutely clear he chooses to do everything he does. He has no great pathos he didn't suffer any great tragedy that wasn't due to his own choices. Guts was actively shit upon his entire life by outside factors yet constantly struggles with whether he should be a good person or not, while also protecting the people he cares about. Griffith on the other hand is always entirely in control of his life yet constantly makes choices that make himself and his friends suffer just to raise his fucking status or because he was throwing a tantrum.

Thats the beauty of it you nigger, you think it might be an enjoyable edgy teenage pandering (in many ways it still is) piece of media just like many others but it offers much more than that.
And that face says it all, if he was less of an asshole it would feel much less impactful.
You want to like the characterbecause hes the MC and gets the most attention but most of the times you dont until he shows signs of feelings we consider positive.

Its the anti hero trope done extremely well.

So i've been reading a few chapters.
So far i've seen
"weak people need to die"
"it's their fault for getting caught in anothers fight"
"I want to crush and wring weak peoples necks"

fuck this is edgy as hell.
although i'm trying not to just drop it. I hope what you're saying comes out soon though.

Explain his acquisition of the behelit. It wasn't pure coincidence, it was fate. Griffith was chosen to carry out the deaths of thousands in pursuit of something that he longed for since youth. I would say it's a combination of fate and his own choices. Was it really his dream to have it all or was it just destiny? This is also something mentioned throughout from what I remember.


Obviously they're not the same character or have the same characteristics, but he also endured many hardships whether they were his own or otherwise. The difference is that Griffith succumbed to absolute evil in the end. He sacrificed his humanity in order to obtain power. This is also something Guts constantly struggles against, but he continues to endure. Two sides of the same coin to me.

Literally all that edginess completely disappears once you get to Golden Age and even after Golden Age it never fully comes back, Guts becomes more of just a quiet cynic than a Killmeister McGrimdark.

Golden Age starts at chapter 10.

Sure it was his fate to get the behelit however he is given the fucking choice to sacrifice his friends or not and he chooses to do it. You can put all the fate bullshit you want but once he is given the choice and makes the choice a fucking evil person would make. He is an evil irredeemable scumbag, then after making that choice he rapes his best friend's girlfriend in front of him just because he was pissed at him for daring to wish to be seen as an equal. Griffith is a fucking villain no matter how you look at it.

Just want to clarify that I realize Guts wants something else entirely, but my point is that they have both faced this abyss.

Also I'm the same user from before, but I had to switch to mobile. Totally not GIDF

Most of the edginess dissapears when he actually starts giving a fuck about the old man

Gigantomakhia was better

more like fucboi is going to sacrifice ex-religious nut lady now reformed tard-sitter and magical loli in training

And that's what it all came down to in the end. That final choice where the true nature of his character is revealed. Yes, it was entirely his own decision, but all I'm saying is that there is more to his character than him being plain evil. This being the themes of fate/destiny, the evil found within human nature, etc.


I never said he wasn't. Griffith actually reminds me of something out of Shakespeare. Probably Macbeth. Well, minus the whole guilt bit.

I'm just hoping it feels like Bloodborne but on larger scale,more gore filled,on a larger Scale and more fast paced

It was a cool little thing, but not better…
You just wanted to post porn, didn't you?

that's actually a really interesting way of looking at it. I always just assumed Griffith did what he did because he felt like his superiority was compromised, but your interpretation makes for a much more fascinating analyse of the character

So what is your argument that Griffith is an interesting villain because I don't think any fan of Berserk would disagree with this. While everyone thinks the eclipse is a terrible thing that they wish didn't happen. They also love it and know it was perfectly deserved in the story and would not like Berserk anywhere near as much if it actually never happened.

well the loli was better in the Gigant

Theres more than one loli in Berserk but only only one of them is good.

I always tought that that thing he said about equal friends was either him bullshitting the princess or something he thought was true but really wasn't, something he told himself to not fret over his friend's deaths. That's his first big mistake.

He lost his best friend, Guts was his best friend even before leaving but he didn't fully notice that until it was too late. He then done goofed with the princess. That's his second big mistake.

After he was rescued, it's only after eavesdropping over Guts and Caska talking about what he said about equal friends that he realises how he majorly messed up and it's all his fault for being selfish, the tries to run away, eclipse ensues. That was his ultimate chance to redeem himself for all the crap he made his friends go through, but he then did his big mistake number three.

He didn't do everything wrong, but what he did wrong is unforgivable.

and that is Schierke rather than that demon loving whore

He felt like a pathetic lump of shit when people were taking care of him, especially when he tried to fuck Casca with his impotent probably cut off cock.
He then Netorare Guts after feeling like he stole his property
Hes an interesting multi faceted piece of shit, but he is still a piece of shit.

Is there a Guts cucks post torture Griffith Doujin?
Id bust a nut to that.

Thanks. That's what happens when you can't into anything but video games and literature. Truth be told, I'm not really a huge fan of anime/manga, but Berserk and the relationship between Guts and Griffith struck a chord with me. It's very well done from what I've read/seen so far.


I'm not really arguing anything. Only emphasizing how much more there is to his character. I also enjoy arguing for the sake of arguing.

I'm sure you guys understand what I'm getting at, but I have met and talked to some people who say things similar to those Neofag posts or seem to miss the point entirely. I hate seeing things go unappreciated in literature, so my tism apparently extends here.

last bit is directed at .

I'm tired.

Nah, eat a dick
Jill best loli

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Post best Berserk girl

Oh I've met those people too. Tell them to watch/read Berserk and they come back and say it sucked because bad things happened. Berserk is one of the few shows that left me fucking depressed after watching it. Even now I need a bit of adjusting after going back over certain parts. A piece of fiction/art that makes you feel like complete shit is just as necessary as stuff that pumps you up and makes you feel like you can take on the world.

Eat shit

I think only a moron would argue that the eclipse shouldn't have happened. What would the story be in that case?

I bet you think the griff did nothing wrong either

You'd think so but look at that Neogaf post. Those are the people who think it shouldn't have happened. It's not only feminists and stuff either a lot of people just cannot deal with a depressing story.

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Normalfags already feel like pieces of shit for trying to mimic and being accepted by everyone instead of expressing themselves.
They just want shallow feels good movies like "Comedy" Romance movies to get them trough their boring uninteresting mundane lifes.

Check my other posts you SAO loving nigger

like i'm gonna filter by your ID and read your posts after posting worst girl

Maybe if she were ten years older

She's third after Slan

But Im only posting best girl now

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Thanks Codemonkey

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I'll grant you she's the best of the prostitutes, but I wouldn't say she's good.

It's okay to want to, but it's not okay to actually do it.
But I respect your stance

She's great, good taste mate
Loses points for being a Whore lady of the night

Shes no longer a whore though

And if a serial killer puts down the knife does that mean he's no longer a murderer?

Actions have consequences and our past is as much a part of who we are as our present.

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Would you rather die of starvation?

I've no idea if this is an analogy that's going over my head or a reference to something from the manga that I haven't read in years and couldn't possibly remember.

God damn the bakiraka are such shitty boring looking monsters, I really hope post-eclipse Griffith and his knights are playable so you can just shit all over them in giant monster forms.

When it comes to wanting to date/marry an ex-prostitute it's really a matter of personal preference. I understand people who say no and stats actually show that marrying a promiscuous woman is much more likely to end in divorce. However it really doesn't bother you then more power to you. Society needs prostitutes and a woman who served society deserves a happy ending as much as any other good woman.

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By happy ending you mean beta provider? And it's rather presumptuous to think that a "good woman" would see marriage as a "happy ending" as if her entire life up to that point has just been leading up to getting married.

user. Black Swordsman is it's own arc. Than followed by Golden Age.

Golden Age is not a terrible part of the manga. It's crucial even. But Golden Age arc was NOT about the action. Near every fight scene in GA is short because it's not as important and getting used to and developing the characters. There were about 3-4-ish fight scenes that were fully seen and not cut short. Most importantly,
There were extremely few demons during this arc
So either the translator fucked up translation on what arc is actually going to be played. Or devs dun goofed and forgot golden age almost has no demons in it.
Why is it that a Dreamcast game gets post Golden Age arc though. What the fuck is going in the mind of the devs?

Getting a bunch of money for having sex isn't enough? Oh wait, you mean happy ending as in not getting murdered? Yeah, legalize prostitution.

It's what most people see as a happy ending having a kid and a loving spouse to raise the kid with.

That she literally whored herself for food.
Now, the cultist whore with gonorrea that almost got the poor, inlove pleb killed for her satanic rituals deserves to die in a fire.

Only after 14 years you can marry.

Come the fuck on. They can't do any better than that? I couldn't even sit through the first minute of the first film because of the horrendous CGI.

She should get married to a client or a pimp.


I get your point, but prostitution isn't remotely similar to murder. You're selling your own body. Barring in "relationship" issues, you don't hurt anyone one but yourself.

Maybe if they just made Gundam Musou 5, they wouldn't have to worry about tiptoeing around.

Did omega force make any of the Gundam Musou games? I thought they were made by another developer and that's why they weren't as good.

Really? I was going to buy the reborn one, are they bad?

I just hope you can fight against Ganishka and the battme is well done, I mean look at this shit.


Sure fam


Fucking beta cucks, she whored herself out of necessity, even helping others with her advantegeous position, she didnt whore herself for the pleasure.

Yeah, they made them. I think 3 was during an especially dense time for Musou games.


Reborn is good, just not a lot of post game content to do. It's a shame that collecting the cards isn't very exciting and collecting medals doesn't do anything except in rare exceptions.

Whoops, forgot to post this

Dunno I only played 4 I think at a friends place co-op. I didn't really like it too much but I also only played for like 2 hours. I haven't heard good things about them though.

Ah, well I guess that's why she's the best of the prostitutes.


You're very lucky if you live in a place where women still think like that. I remember in college overhearing a group of girls talking about how pregnancy is "unnatural". I suppose when the girls in my circle start hitting the wall I might see more of it.


I wasn't trying to compare the ethical value of the two actions, it was just the first thing that came into my mind that was visceral enough to describe my point concisely.
I assumed that when we talk about "best girl"s that relationship issues are pretty high on the list of negatives.

What a cuck thread
Gutz is a cuck,
Readers of the manga keeps getting cucked by the author,
and those who think this game will be good will eventually be cucked out of their money

Most are Hormonal High School chimps who attempt to have independent thought.

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It's normal for teenagers to not think raising a family is a good thing or something to strive for. Society now has extended childhood far past what it used to be. Which is fine for men but woman have it rough thinking that they shouldn't be trying to settle down until they're 30. You can call it sexism or whatever but women have an expiry date when it comes to having kids. Women nowadays reach an age where they realize they want a family however it's too late and they become desperate or spiteful.

Bullshit, she drools and probably touches herself when thinking about griffith, shes cultist-tier, not best nothing at all.

He's a crybaby control freak.
One more thing that bothers me
Bravo Griffith.

ey yo, if you guys who made me read more of berserk are still here, it's actually not bad after those first chapters. Thanks!

I meant actually having a relationship with someone who isn't a cuck.


I don't know about any of this shit man, just shitposting.

Cheers mate.
It gets pretty slow in golden age but later it returns to some good old demon slaying.

Louis CK is that you?

If only they would finally make an AI that actually attacks you. From what I've seen of these musou games, the enemies just get close to you and then stand there and wait for you to kill them.

Tbh lets stop blaming other whites here and realize the real problem is Feminism, which was invented and was and still is promoted by Jews, who are not whites.

You what mate. Golden Age is one of the best parts of Berserk. It's incredible. It's the best drama ever written I would say. Made me really care for the characters.

I personally prefer lost children.

Caska isn't dark skinned, she's a white European. She's Italian/Spaniard type, but born in southern Midland (France). Her family is white in the flashback. She has genetic traits unique to whites, such as pink nipples.

Olive skin

Who the fuck colored Pippin into a negro. I'm pretty sure he's meant to be a Mongol.

Yes, and? Italians, Spaniards and Greeks have olive skin. That's not really what dark skinned refers to. They're still white people, they're just tan because they live by the Mediterranean.

But look at the pictures I posted, or these other ones. Does she look dark skinned in them? No. Slightly tan at best. But definitely a white woman.

What the fuck are you talking about? You just reworded what I said in my original post about Black Swordsman being its own arc.
And i'm going to assume the bottom section wasn't directed at me, seeing as how it has nothing to do with what I was talking about

The child is not Griffiths. Its Guts's. Read the part again where its born.

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Wow maybe you should read further you faggot. He isn't protecting the village, he doesn't care about any of the villagers really.

Secondly, after Volume 3 a flashback of like 100 chapters begins and Berserk really starts to get amazing there.

They are, they're just from different tribes. I'm Nordic, but I think the Anglo definition of white is retarded. Obviously Slavs, Mediterranean Europeans, and all pure Europeans are white, as in, they are members of our race in the larger sense - even though it can be divided into many subgroups and tribes.

Provided they don't have race mixed ancestry of course. The Greeks kinda got genetically ruined by the Ottomans. But Caska is clearly just either a southern French person, or a northern Italian (since France actually owned some Italian regions in medieval times).

No no, you misunderstand. Griffith did mean what he said to the princess about friends. However, it did not apply to Guts, because Griffith was homo for Guts. There are lots of hints to this.

"I want you, Guts" - Griffith
"Are you a homo?" - Guts

Griffith acting impulsively whenever Guts was in danger

"You are the only one who made me forget my dream"
Why would just a friend make him forget about achieving his dream?

Guts of course always considered Griffith just a friend, since Guts is straight. So when he heard Griffith talking to the princess, he misunderstood and thought Griffith only considers him a pawn, a soldier and nothing more.

The Golden Age is a very well written love triangle story. Guts likes Caska, Caska likes Griffith, and Griffith likes Guts. And none of them realize it.

Those are dahaka. Bakiraka are the prince and his four magic negroes.

Why would just a friend make him forget about achieving his dream?
True bros.

Homo or not, friend or love interest, what matters is that Griffith cherished Guts more than the others.
He saying that shit basically meant that Guts was not even a friend. They weren't lovers, I don't think Griffith ever boned Guts, he had to be considered at least a precious friend at that point.

Spain got muh-dicked by the Arabs and Italy was a trade haven for thousands of years.

Caska doesn't look French in the slightest and looks more like a Moor.

The rest wasn't, thus the paragraph is seperated. In the manga, introducing The black swordsman arc was 9 chapters long. Golden Age Arc is pretty much a flashback arc. The Band of the Hawk exploits.

Sorry user. Meant. . Shit happens.

Caska looks nothing like a Moor. She is clearly completely European and white. Plenty of pure Europeans have dark hair and brown eyes. Again, fuck off with the Anglocentric view of what being white is. If someone is genetically a pure European, they're white.


If you look at phenotype and haplogroup maps on Eupedia, you can see that the Moors didn't muh dik Spaniards even though they conquered them. Only the Portuguese and southern Spaniards (Granada) got race mixed, but vast majority of Spaniards today are genetically pure Spaniards with no Moor genes. Look it up on Eupedia.

What does Italy trading have to do with anything? They didn't let foreigners move into the Italian kingdoms.

Caska looks Italian more than anything else.

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All the fucking wakalakadingdong names blur together

Are you? Are you really so tricked by Jewish lies that you think Hitler had something against non Germanic Europeans? You forget that he was allied with Italy, who you consider subhumans? Well, he didn't.

You are absolutely retarded if you think we Europeans should be fighting over minor shit like this. And don't post Adolf if you don't even know about his beliefs.

Np, I was just confused is all

Also since this pseudo nazi thinks that brown eyed, dark haired Europeans are not whites, by his logic Himmler and Goebbels were not white.

Maybe go read the Mein Kampf instead of believing what you're told on the History Channel.

Are the movies good? I watched the anime and read most of the manga. still didn't finish the manga.

They skip a lot of very important character building and a lot of scenes are ruined.

Good soundtrack, not as good as Hirasawa though. One of the things they did well was have the gore and nudity in them.

The movies are what happen in the anime, but with some stuff cut. It's a good starting point, but you won't miss anything by not watching them.

Italians/Greeks/Poortugalians are nothing but gypsies/mudshit rapebabies squatting in 3000 year old ruins and taking gibs from the EU. Prove me wrong.

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so it's nothing new. I guess I'll just wait for the new stuff to come out.

That's some deep lore.

Seriously, look at this shit. Finnish shitposters on anime imageboards are relevant enough to get the Poortugalean government to make propaganda videos.

Literal fucking non-countries.

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Ok.

Italy:
eupedia.com/genetics/italian_dna.shtml


Only Sicily was ever conquered by nonwhites from Italy. Yes, it is true that Sicilians are mongrels. But mainland Italy is pure European.

Spain and Portugal:
eupedia.com/genetics/spain_portugal_dna.shtml
As you can see, Spaniards are by vast majority pure European haplogroup to this day. Portugal seems pretty pozzed, and the southern Iberian coast and Aragonian coast as well. Still, majority of them are still Europeans, especially inland and northern regions.

Yes, the Greek gene pool got ruined bad by the Turkroaches. But Caska is either French or Italian as is implied in the manga.

Here you can see the percentage of each haplogroup in any European country eupedia.com/europe/european_mtdna_haplogroups_frequency.shtml

Here are some maps to help you better visualize what haplogroups dominate any European country:
eupedia.com/europe/maps_Y-DNA_haplogroups.shtml
As you can see, vast majority of the Spanish and Italian landmass is populated by people from the R1b haplogroup, which is the haplogroup of French and German people as well. It would seem that most of the areas in Spain and Italy are 60 to 80% R1b.


eupedia.com/europe/origins_haplogroups_europe.shtml

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very accurate, and well-written summary, user

it was less guts leaving the band as it was guts defeating him and establishing himself as griffith's equal. griffith is built up as a person destined for greatness; everyone around him acknowledges his superiority either by adoration and devotion, or by treating him as a very real threat. griffith hasn't known anything other than this, and gets swept up in his own hype and ego as he moves towards his goals. It always ends up working for him, though, because he's smart enough, strong enough and pretty enough to back up that ego of his.

the only one to not acknowledge griffith in this way is guts, and you can see this shakes griffith immediately. griffith makes a move to dominate guts and force him to acknowledge his superiority by beating him and combat, which sates his ego for the time being. guts is forced into the band of the hawk, but grows to enjoy it and respects griffith.

the key thing here is that he only respects griffith, he is never completely swept up in griffith's ego in the same way everyone else is. he uses griffith to achieve his own goal of becoming stronger, and when he is strong enough to defeat him, he merely continues on his way as if he had simply defeated griffith on the day they first met.

when guts does this, it completely destroys griffith's ego. griffith doesn't know how to respect anyone, and guts has just forced griffith to respect him by beating him in combat. griffith fell from grace and shit the bed because he had never personally experienced defeat and didn't know how to handle it. it'd be like when people experience a break-up for the first time, or when a kid sees his pet dog he loved and grew up with get splattered by a semi-trailer.

tl;dr griffith got tilted hard

I always knew whitey was just a race of bustahs hanging off of the coat tails of the realest niggas.

it's very clear he's a villain. He's got a tragic backstory, but he's still a villain, and was always destined to be. That's why the behelit sought him out, because it was always his destiny to make a pact with demons and become a villain. I mean, you'd think him murdering all his friends, raping the follower most devoted to him, and crippling his best friend would be bad enough for people.

I don't see anything tragic about his story, his backstory actually has nothing bad happen to him that was out of his control. He was always in charge of his own life.

Same can not be said for Guts and Caska, who actually have tragic backstories of being victims all of their childhood.

We don't know much about his childhood, but it's implied he was incredibly poor and probably a homeless street urchin as a child. And plus I'm mentioning that while still human he wasn't a bad guy, not a good person, but he got tortured terribly by a pedophile incest dad. It doesn't excuse what he did but his story isn't happier than anyone else's.

It's not implied at all that he was homeless or incredibly poor. Kids running around the streets, playing knights with his friends. I think that implies he's in fact from a somewhat well off family for a commoner, because the average commoner child would be working, not playing.

Huh? Griffiths father or any of his family members are never mentioned at all. If you are talking about the pedo noble, Griffith willingly sold his ass to him. It was Griffiths idea.

I need it now AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Me too. Running out of good games to play, so much shit nowadays.

Trailer makes it look like the time between lost children and conviction arc, So be might get CGI wheel skeletons, snake dicks and a boss battle against senator Armstrong

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Near attempt with Burn The Witch girl when she first met Guts and when she was possessed and almost had nookie-nookie with him.

your denial entertains me

No i'm talking about when he gets arrested for fucking the princess, the king throws him in the dungeon and has him tortured for a few months straight. This is what happens while Guts is away and how they have to rescue him.

reddit.com/r/Berserk/comments/4og6zr/new_promo_image_for_berserk_musou/

I don't know what I expected from plebbit faggots

But its you who's in denial of the obvious fact that Caska is white.


Wat, no it isn't? In fact, just one more proof that Caska is white: nobody in all of Berserk ever points out Caskas skin tone even once. Yet every time a Midlander sees a Kushan, they immediately go "KUSHANS!", recognizing them from their darker skin and different looks.

Obviously Caska is a native Midlander since nobody there looks at her like she isn't.

You going to call a captain of the world's most feared mercenary company a nigger? You going to call the retarded girl accompanying Guts a nigger?

Caska even says that she lived in a village bordering midland, that got raided all the time. Caska is not a native midlander. She doesn't even look like a fucking midlander.

Nah, you're just fucking dumb.
There is zero hint to Caska not being European racially. A large proportion of pure Europeans have dark hair and brown eyes.

Caska lived on the southern border of Midland yes, which got raided by other Europeans all the time jackass. You can see the raiders being western. Secondly, none of that has anything to do with her origins anyway, since her parents were both Midlanders.

She's obviously Midlander/Italian phenotype.

You fucking retards need to read the manga in addition to just watching the anime, because only the manga can be used as a canonical source. Compare her skin complexion in the manga to the anime.

In manga, she's completely white. In anime, they made her darker, incorrectly though since in the original manga she's so very slightly tanned its barely noticeable.

As you can see from these pages.

It didn't upload the pages for some reason.

You're welcome to check out official artwork for the manga. Caska is not a midlander, and neither is Guts.

I didn't say Guts is a Midlander. He's from a neighboring country, some Germanic kingdom since he's based on an actual German mercenary from history called Götz.

Caska is a Midlander, which is said in the manga. She's obviously racially European despite not necessarily being racially Midlander (French), this is made very obvious in the manga.

You need to read it again, or perhaps for the first time since you seem to have missed some plot. Or perhaps you're just trying to force your SJW fan fiction into the canon?

Well, the truth remains that canonically, Caska is a white European, just a Mediterranean one.

What you are saying is like saying that Italians aren't white = plain idiocy.

Caska is not a midlander

Did you think Midland is the whole European region in Berserk? It's just France. There's lots of other European kingdoms in the story. Caska is a Midlander in the sense that her village was in Midland, near the southern border.

However, even if she's not racially a Midlander (French person), she is racially European as can be seen from all the evidence in the manga. For example, having racial traits unique to Europeans, such as pink lips and nipples.

Dune coons are not capable of having such traits, they simply do not appear in their haplogroups.

You… you do understand that a lot of Europeans are darker than Nordic or Anglo Europeans, right? They're still Europeans, they're still white. Just look at Italian people. Vast majority of them have black hair, brown eyes and tan skin. They're still from a European race.

Pretty sure that guy thinks mario is a nigger too

Probably. Or, he's a nonwhite who thinks Caska is a negress or something. Seen several nonwhite Berserk fans who make up fan fiction like that and then try to push it on the series. Like Woolie from Super Best Friends Play, that negro thinks Caska is black. Even though she has straight hair and other racial traits negroes can't have.

Look at dem skin mayne, dey black

AYO HOL UP
*smacks lips*
WE WUZ KANGZ N BAND OF THE FALCON N SHIET

SHEIT NIGGA, GRIFFITH WUZ BLACK