Do the ultra-lefties who think Rojava is inauthentic for accepting support from the bourgeois imperialist United States...

Do the ultra-lefties who think Rojava is inauthentic for accepting support from the bourgeois imperialist United States also hate Cuba for accepting support from the bourgeois imperialist Russia?

Yes.
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Rojava isn't socialist, US aid or not. Neither is Cuba.

How is Rojava non-socialist? I don't believe private property exists there as it does in the capitalist world

There's also the german help russian revolutionaries received.

I think leftists who think like that are very likely to be retarded and more obsessed with symbolic gestures than actual results.

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Meant to >>969187

Right. Was the USSR insincere for accepting Lend-Lease? Of course not.

How is Rojava not socialist? They have direct democracy and worker collectives, no?

Rojava isn't socialist and Cuba was never socialist. Progressive gestures, no matter how well meaning, do not result in socialism. We don't call European governments socialist when they had social democracy.

I am a strong supporter of Rojava but claiming that Rojava is socialist is bullshit. It will have a way easier time to convert to socialism than any M-L state or socdem state ever though if it succeeds with its basic goals and the movement can definitly be called a socialist movement.

Even if there was no private property inside Rojava (there is), Rojava isn't a society all by itself, so it still wouldn't be socialist.


Socialism isn't about democracy and worker collectives.


Could you back that up with some of their theory?

To be more precise: if and once Rojava is secured, how do they plan to spread their revolution all over the world?

Hasn't Cuba undergone a process of ๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€liberalisation๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€ anyway? And Castro is on death's door, so who cares about Cuba now tbhimo

Cubans?

Who?

Isn't it how Cuba's inhabitants are called in English?

Don't be silly, we all know real Cubans emigrated to Florida :^)

No, it's about control of the means of production, but If you have direct democracy and worker collectives, aren't the workers then in the possession of the means of production? What precisely are they lacking?

No, it's about abolishing trade and property, and with them classes, and with them the State.

thats like your opinion man. I'm fine with trade and property, and I like Rojava.

It's called Marxism. And I'm fine with you being fine with capitalism too, don't worry; you're not the only one.

In all honesty that seems to be most leftists today.

Actually what you are doing is more commonly called being a humongous faggot, but bickering over terminology is pointless.