How can islamic communism exist if Allah allows you to own slaves?

How can islamic communism exist if Allah allows you to own slaves?

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Mooselums are inherently reactionary and cannot be our comrades

"Islamic communism" only exists in WESTERN academic circles. If Muslims ON THE GROUND IN THE MIDDLE EAST were interpreting their canonical texts in the light of communism, then that's what they would be fighting for rather than liberal democracy or feudalism.

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Why does Holla Forums keep bringing up the PFLP every time an "Islamic gommunizum" thread is posted?

PFLP was founded by a Christian-turned-atheist and their entire platform is secular. Not to mention, Palestine is just one tiny Muslim-majority country and the PFLP is hardly as active as it once was 40 years ago.

They aren't Islamic in ideology, they just have members from a Muslim background

It's the same with the YPG, PKK, and MKLP

If "Islamic communism" is the goal, then the plan should be to morph Marxism or anarchism to meet the principles and demands of traditional Sunni Islam, not the other way around.

A major problem with religious communism is that the vast majority of the theorists and activists who combined Marxism with theology were outright heretics. Liberation Theology, for instance, has always been looked at negatively by the Vatican. Both Martin Buber (anarchist) and Walter Benjamin (Marxist) followed the Lurianic kabbalah, which was considered an outright perversion of Judaism time and time again. Mirsaid Sultan-Galiyev was much more of a Turanist than an Islamic theologian. Ali Shariati was a Shia, as are Hezbollah (even though Hezbollah aren't really leftist), and Shias are considered heretics by Sunnis who constitute 85% of the world's Muslim population. Don't even get me started on "Sufi anarchism" when Sufis are routinely killed by orthodox Muslims.

It could actually be taken as a bit of an insult to religious people since you're implying they have to morph their theological views into something they'd see as absurd in order to shoehorn them into a communist agenda. Why not to the opposite and shoehorn Marxism into orthodox Islam?

Religion is just an arm of culture, saying that a muslim supports slavery because the Quaran says so is pedantic. If a religious population believes something, whatever the religion itself has historically said about it is irrelevant - religion effects culture, and vice versa, but ultimately religion is subservient to culture. If a people think that slavery is wrong, what their book says is irrelevant - and if any of them are scholars, they'll probably try to find a way to interpret their book as anti-slavery too.

The Quaran itself, arguably, even accounts for this, in saying that God is all-knowing, but the book is not - "We do not abrogate a verse or cause it to be forgotten except that We bring forth one better than it or similar to it. Do you not know that Allah is over all things competent?"

The Medinan suras outweigh the Meccan suras.

Listen to an actual Muslim on the Qur'an:
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Why are so few of the women at their rallies in hijab?

I think only kaffir can be slaves, and still, there are plenty of mudslimes who don't have slaves.

Islam is a fascist idelogy anyway.
It's like Nazism

Muslims are prohibited from enslaving other Muslims, yes. That's one of the major reasons why forced conversion was also prohibited: non-Muslims were the primary source of taxation and labor for the caliphate.

People that worship shit tier ML states are also inherently reactionary and cannot be our comrades.

Maybe the early caliphates. The Ottoman caliphate did convert the boys collected by devşirme by force, but that also negates my point of only kaffir being slaves. Religious dogma only applies when convenient for the ruling class, who could have guessed?

Communism is essentially planetary slavery, so it's not that much of a stretch

mosdef it must be quite far on the left

true, religiosity and party membership exclude each other


where in the bible was enslavement abolished?

this is why a christian communism can only arrive after death.

This doesn't prove Islam is pro-communist.

Sauce for this claim?

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Proudhon supported ethnic cleansing and genocide of Jews.

Stirner supported unlimited child abuse.

So slavery isn't that incompatible with anarchy.

I'd like to see the source on Stirner supporting unlimited child abuse.

Also Kropotkin supported WWI.

Yeah people of yesteryear had some shitty ideas, that's why we ignore the shitty ideas and just focus on what they actually got right.

learn to read, dipshit, i also wrote


where do i imply it would be?

anarchists? nothing
ML everything tho, the party cleansing just wasn't severe enough
so let's ignore the shitty ideas of showing mercy to revisionists and social democrats infiltrating the party and put them to death right away