JUST FUCK MY GENRE UP

THEY CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT

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rebooting Quake as a Team Fortress clone would be like rebooting Warcraft as an ASSFAGGOTS.

not funny.

id is long dead. What you're looking at is just wearing its hollowed-out skin.

i wish it wasn't so

Well, at least they confirmed strafe jumps and rocket jumping are still in, so it won't be 100% shit. Just 99% shit.

this is how they bait you into it, they include the most superficial elements of the old games, then completely fuck up the core gameplay

guarantee you both of those are "perks" you either buy or can only use as a certain class.

don't even try to subtract that 1%, the idea of classes in Quake is already a heresy.

Have any of the reboots of "classic shooters" been any good?
I could probably include Serious Sam in there but it wasn't really a reboot, just a sequel. Plus I know it was pretty alright.

Part of me wants to forget all of this now, this is at least twice as worse as last year's conference.

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I already know the people making this are giant faggots.

don't forget that they'll claim that "it's just liek the old gaemz!!!1"

Shadow Warrior was pretty good, same with Wolfenstein though to a much smaller degree.

I hear Wolfenstein had an alright campaign, but I don't really trust what I hear anymore because 90% of it comes from casuals, plebs, or paid shills.

The New Order was pretty good

there was this guy making youtube videos for Nostalrius, RIP, and he kept going on and on about how vanilla WoW was a "real old school RPG" and he kept using Oblivion as an example. I don't know if I should feel old or insulted.

both is fine

ITT children that never played Enemy Territory: Quake Wars and are desperately trying to appear as old fags.

This is nothing new for Quake, at least wait for gameplay before shitting your diapers.

The campaign was actually alright, and it does a hilariously good job of making the nazis look like the good guys, even though they're trying their hardest not to.

I guess I'll have to pirate it sometime.

The main thing I heard about it and actually trusted was that it feels like they slapped the Wolfenstein name on an unrelated game, story-wise.

Thanks, Todd.

I guess you could say that, most Wolfenstein games are about a guy killing Nazis who use the occult. This one though is a straight up alternate universe where the Nazis just got gud at technology and beat the shit out of the Allies.

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What ? No please God no… the trailer looks great, but the description says it's class based ? Fuck that shit. Why do they keep doing this ? I'm so sad :( did they show serious Sam 4 ??

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probably won't be shown at an actual conference.

ET:QW is a fucking different canon that was following the Quake 2 story.
I don't see any Strogg vehicles or any open terrain in trailer.

They say 'strafe jumping'
They mean 'being able to turn in the air'

Don't fool yourself, ludicrous speed is out, to give the new abilities some form of relevance.

Heh.

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Anyway, a portion of this board already swallowed that zenimax gallon of cum called doom, they'll do it again.
And then whine how the industry is bad.

I'm just waiting for the crack so I can pirate it, fuck Zenimax.

Wew led

Better to waste time than money, plus even if I don't like it I'm not stuck with buyer's remorse.

whatever happened to that other ASSFAGGOTS shooter Bethesda was supposed to be making? can't remember the name of it because it was really generic.

i love ETQW, but it's not a quake game. battlefield/ET with some quake elements. also youre a dumb faggot and that game not being shit is impossible. people that dont care dont make good things

But why spend time on it?
You know it's shit.

inb4
yeah that's what they're saying about nuGhostbusters

Give me a good arena shooter that isn't ded, Holla Forums. Please, I crave one.

Fags who buy stupid shit at discount are amusing too, they always act so smug

stop pretending that you're using perl. You're making yourself look stupid.

Because even if it is shit, I can still find a mindless enjoyment out of it.

What?

Heighten your standards, user, for your own good.
I know ignorance is a bliss, but this is some slow boil shit right now.

Unreal Tournament
Xonotic
Cube2:Sauerbraten

time IS money user

Ironically Quake Live is still the least dead of them all.

Jesus. The sad thing is that they're using the IP because they know idiots will see it and think it has some connection to the old game. Why someone would think that when it's been 20 (?) years is beyond me.

Lisp would've been funnier, user.

To be fair, NuQuake has just as much of a connection to Quake 3 as 3 has to 1.

Dammit, now googling old Quake is gonna be a mess! Damn you, Bethesda!

Hello newfriend.
Perhaps you should wait until you are familiar with our customs before you try to correct people.

Oh boy I cant wait for the shills and their arguments. "Its not consolized!" "Its just as fast as the earlier quakes" "Quicktime events/cutscene spam doesnt break the flow and you can just skip them" "you can turn off X (mechanic game is build around) in the options menu!"

Facts don't matter.
NERD CRED!

I wish they would stop shoehorning stuff like this into these reboots. The pointless upgrade systems these all seem to have annoys me the most.

xonotic is a good game. shame that it is dead

Campaign is alright-ish. It shines when it comes to movement (fast) and weapons (good selection and you can switch between them all freely). The boss fights can be tedious, the level design can get a bit too modern-like; it slows you down randomly which can piss you off if you're just looking to frag stuff. Also story is muh cinematic experience.
But overall, I'd say it's probably the best AAA FPS in the last 8 or so years.

says the guy who thinks that using parenthesis to emphasize on something are superior to the good old quotes.

With NuDoom and now this new Quake, it's pretty obvious it's all a sham so they can get the mainstream going "See! These idolized series were never good!" so they can shut down everyone's arguments that the beloved series of the 90s were better, while still pulling in money from recognized brands. It's disgusting, really.

You really are new, aren't you?

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The first level is everything that is wrong with games these days, after that it actually gets better and shooting feels good. Pretty bad level design and lots of cutscenes though

How new are you to this site? I wont judge you for it, I'm just curious.

and Doom
and Prey
and Transformers
and Rise of the Triad
and Shadow Warrior
and Ghostbusters
and Spider-man
etc…

xonotic is fuckin' A, if only people actually played it

Developers say a lot of things.

It's like with that Strife game, they said that you could bunny hop, but really they just meant that you could rapidly jump. It didn't actually do anything.

Lurk moar

It's truly hilarious how fucking dead "id" (read: Bethesda) is that they are rehashing "thier" (read: Real id) old hits to try and appeal on this fake nostalgia.

When I was watching the E3 showing, I thought "I bet this success from NuDoom will prompt a rehash of Quake", and lo and behold the first fucking thing they show, turns out to be an unfinished CGI rendering.

Then I called it. "I bet it'll have fucking shitty abilities to compete with Overwatch" and yeah, it's right there. Quake is now a fucking "Hero Shooter" trying to make characters out of "familiar faces" and implying anyone but Ranger and Doom and Bitterman had any backstory that wasn't made up on the spot purely for Quake 3.

Here's how it'll continue:

They'll tell us Quake has been in development "since Doom was finished" or something similar, when in actual fact the only thing that exists of NuQuake is that rendering they whipped up last week when they thought "Oh Shit, Overwatch is making money. We gotta cash in on that, what can we use? Oh, We haven't rehashed Quake yet! Let's turn that into a cash cow!"

I'm calling it now; NuQuake will be a 10 minute success before being completely forgotten just like NuDoom because it'll be generic trash that is trying to compete with the marketing giants that already own the show. The only success they'll get is from the fake-nostalgia, the "hero abilities" and the "It's so fast paced guys!" before it's fucking forgotten and trampled under Overwatch.

No, they're appealing to hipster hardcore gamers who never played Quake and Doom but will get the new ones on day 1 to show how tru gamers they are.

nuquake will flop even worse than d44m since everyone remember quake as that one game where you jump too fast and you can't even play it on console

Did nudoom flop?

Exactly, Fake nostalgia. "Uhh we're true gamers because we play nuDoom/nuQuake and relive the Good ol' days!" So fucking hardcore man, yeah go suck some more corporate dicks.

Fucking hell why does the "industry" have to ruin something supposed to be fun.

didn't even sell a million on steam or on any console

What do classes have to do with MOBA?

Actually they had bios prior to Q3;
Sent to Mars instead of getting court martialed by his superiors, after refusing to shoot Nuns during a water-riot and maiming his commanding officer, from Texas. Likely from rurals.
He is a marine who wants to go back to his bed and sleep, tripping so hard because of all the steroids and enchancement drugs to be effected by Cthulhu. A Texan farmers son.
He is a marine on leave when he witnesses and survives first wave of Strogg invasion. Which happens to take place in Texas while visiting his fathers farm.

Not that I'm touching that shit but a "Texas Manshooters Team" would be fun. But then again I doubt anything will be fun about it.

Yeah they had bios, but that's what I'm saying - They're basically the only characters that weren't made up on the spot purely for Quake 3.

Well, maybe Tank Jr can fit in the list too because he's technically from Quake 2.

…agh, I tried to mean they didn't have bios, they are all "Space Cowboys From Texas".

Does that mean no more ==QUAD DAMAGE== ?

How can you retards still be failing at redtexts? Are you literally retarded?

I don't understand how anything works. The only thing I can do is spoilers.

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Uh, yeah, only mods can, otherwise you can be banned.

I'm mod btw

User was banned for this post

You can choose quad damage as your ultimate :^)

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Fuck that, where's my Haste + Quad rampage?

lmao

As a big fan of Overwatch and Quake i think this game will be fucking great. I cant wait to learn more about this game at the next Quakecon

Day 1 DLC :^)

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Oh its you again, what happened to your last tread Mr Shill?

and so the shill rears it's ugly visage

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You're an it

They fucked that one up after introducing loudouts and paytoplay.
Or it was a subscription model for certain maps. Not really sure what came first.

It died because there is 3 other threads about this great game

this

…shit. I wonder what will be QuakeCon like with this… thing.

Xonotic

I said not ded

why don't we make it not-ded?

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start a thread or host a server or something, I'm down

Why do they have to add dubster into everything?

That powerup got transferred to doom 4

It's so fucking sad that Ican see this actually happening.

it`s shit before it even begun

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Same with Haste

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It sure is summer in here.

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I haven't actually watched the conference, but do we know for sure this is a CRAPCUNTS? I don't actually get that vibe from the trailer aside from the bluehair bitch.

It is described as a class based shooter

What did you expect, everyone's jumping on the overwatch bandwagon

Quake Champions
"Quake is back", with neon blue hair womyn, how progressive!
"Designed for players of all Skill levels"
"Diverse cast of warriors each with its own stats and abilities"
e-sports, e-sports, e-sports
FUCKING KILL ME
120hz is nice though, but fuck everything else.

Well fuck.

I wouldn't lose my shit over the blue haired slut though.

Not really concerned about the bluehaired chick since both Quake and Unreal Tournament have their share of weirdass female character models. But this:


Now that spells disaster.

Seriously, the fact that they mention that is the biggest red flag there is. How much more entry level do you want? Its literally WASD and left mouse button to shoot

Somehow this E3 feels so much worse than usual.

I don't htink they quite said that to be fair.

The blue hair bit is only there because how everyone tried hard to push their PC agenda

2k devs presentind Mafia 3 said at least 50 times "Diverse".
EA wouldn't shut up about Alex Hunter.
Every presentation other than titanfall and prey had black/female main characters.


Prey feels like a less scary dead space with no limb cutting.

Well, look at that, seems like Tumblr infiltrated vidya long ago

People who claim nost was good never actually played Vanilla or any other private server, all it had going for it was it's large population

We could all start playing it.

It's not dead you unbearable faggot. I play it regularly.

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even quake live has more players than this game.

Are you so retarded that you are unable to scroll down?

SHILL
OUT

get a load of this guy

Shadow Warrior and Rise of the Triad were pretty good. People also seem to like Wolfenstein TNO, but I think it was crap.

All that's gone. No server uses loadouts (it's a server admin choice), the game is less than 10 bucks and then you own everything, no additional paid shit. It's fixed, basically. But it's still a Quake 3 rebalance with a messed up spawn system (not that Quake 3 spawns were better, QL spawns just also suck) so it's not going to grow. Unless I guess Champions gets some new people interested in Quake and then they are smart enough to realize that Champions isn't the real deal and come play QL instead. That would be nice.

In the long term Quake needs a graphics update so it can attract new players via streams and frag movies.

Except they can. They own it, they can fuck the corpse all they want.

I still have the originals to come back to, and it's not like I've expected anything good from any major company (except Platinum and Paradox, really) for the past decade.

Fuck this is sad news.

It's just a fat bitch with her arse hanging out. Get over it.

time to >>>/suicide/

but will they make a new border1 map?

It hurts to live.

Let's start a daily Xonotic thread and play it you fags

WHAT THE FLYING FUCK?

maybe those are supposed to be the stand in for performance enhancing drugs?

I play Lucy and used to jack off to her.

That's speculation. Don't confuse the issue, classes are bad enough. It's probably going to be like Overwatch with weapons bound to the characters, no pickups (except health and armor).

i really hope this kills the overwatch

With an unlocked framerate I would like them to explain what exactly those hz denote. Server tick rate?

Remember when you bought bethesda's shitty game for 10 bucks because it was on sale?
Yeah, that's thanks to you.
Thanks a lot, asshole.

TRANNIES

If Nu Quake plays like TFC then it might be OK. Also wasn't Quake 3 suppose to have light, medium and heavy class?

How bad is nuDoom? It got great reviews saying so fast, so furious, but it looks like a brutal doom shitshow

No more than 12 enemies can appear on screen at the same time

Well, to be fair, Quake hasn't been good since the original. So honestly, worst case scenario, it joins the majority of the series in the land of garbage games.

Like a hard limit? Or they just never throw many at you? Either way, Sad!

This still boggles my mind. Like, I've seen most modern FPS that AAA spit out seems to have a similar limit for reasons unknown, but Doom should be fine with a literal horde of demons coming after your ass if someone made a level for it.

Once you get to low health you will hear a loud sound and a big warning will appear telling you you're low on health. When you glorykill an enemy on low health they will drop over 50 hp of health. Shotgun turns into a pea shooter past 3 meters and most weapons feel like you are firing a toy gun anyway

WEW
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If there are more than 12 it'll wait until some die then throw more in.

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Silly question, wasn't the original game about fighting one lovecraft god but then the second one spinned everything and made it about killing borg?

Wolfenstein reboot was ok
Doom reboot is great

granted, those are single player games (ignore Doom MP), Quake is a different beast, but there is hope for something decent

There was nothing "nu" about the new DOOM though. It was incredible. It was everything DOOM is.

Very disappointing that the new Quake is some hero brawler garbage like Overwatch.

Do you get paid per post, or wordcount?

They don't even try any more.
But then again, maybe they don't have to.

how can the remastered version look so much worse? also, what's up with those eyebrows?

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What is the song playng on this webm.

No, it won't. Most normalfags are content with CoD and BF. This game pleases no one. There is already too many games of it's kind on the market.

It's a sped up version of this.

Why does it need a graphics update? It looks good enough, if you started adding muh graphics on top, it would end up being distracting and shit.

cheers man!

man, this takes me back to the years of ytmnd.

You think in this newest Quake game we will see characters as imaginative as these?

I mean in Quake Arena you had Buddhist monks, Radioactive Skellingtons, a porn star, a Strogg prince, an undead serial killer and so much more!
I really hope bethesda at least tries to add some of that in this.

Oh who am i fucking kidding? they will fuck it up just like they fuck everything up.

Good enough for the year 2000.


Quake absolutely needs picmip for that visual clarity. Also the lighting can't be too high contrast but that's art style, not technology. Contemporary rendering techniques like real-time global illumination and PBR materials (works with monochrome picmipped textures as well) don't necessarily take away from visiual clarity. Look at untextured maps in new UT, if the performance were stable it would be a viable esport already.

With the "120 hz" claim id have set the bar high for themselves. No unoptimized mess like Doom 2016, they know they wouldn't get away with it in a serious multiplayer game. I'm sure they will offer a "simple texture mode" or something to make it palatable to us. Of course we won't get the same depth of customization as we have with QL but look at Doom, id in its current shape can do indepth menus. Or look at how they have kept adding more "config" features into the ingame menu of QL itself. id are clearly aware that players like customization. I'm actually optimistic in this one regard. Visual clarity won't be the game's downfall. Balance might be though.

This is interesting if true. Source?

TFC sucked though tbh, but i guess even that is better than what it sounds like they are trying to turn quake into.

Dook.
Alright.
Pretty good, if a bit buggy.
I have only played tOB which seemed pretty uninspired, though still fairly fun, tNO looks better in regards to being able to shoot shit.
Actually quite enjoyable, was far better than DOOM 3, if there was an option to disable those shitty glory kills, it could've been one of my recent favourite games.
No matter how you look at it, it will be shit.
I went into Egypt and shot shit with CUHRAYSEE firepower, felt like Stoic Steven to me.

You mean like in Quake 1?

I fucking hate this place.

I want offf this wild ride

(checked)

Get ready for more rage. From the report card thread.

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TOB has better gun balance (as in using the AR 90% of the time isn't the best option), but it's pretty much just a pale copy of RTCW's first part, TNO balances the stealth vs guns blazing part much better but that's about it.

>was far better than DOOM 3
I suggest you take a look at Perfected DOOM3 whenever v7 releases

GAY FUEL

Well, I don't know about the enemy count but
Honestly the gun play felt like fallout 4's, which is not a good thing. The demo was boring as hell

Today didnt need to be a good day anyway

pic related, for that's how the majority of level design remains

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Do you think any of the id retirees would come to /agdg/ to give us tips and arcane knowledge if we could find them to ask?

Didn't American McGee come to 8ch and do some Q&A?

BUT WHY?

THAT FUCKING FAD PRODUCES NOTHING BUT SHIT AND MAKES EVERYTHING WORSE

THIS FUCKING TREND MAKES ME SO MAD THAT IT FUCKING TRIGGERED THE FUCK OUT OF THE TUMBLR BLOG THAT I DON'T EVEN HAVE

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>Bethesda and Zenimax wont die in your lifetime

My hope is its just different rechargeable abilities and perks for different characters but the core concept of pick up placement and movement stay the same

OVERWATCH/TF2/MOBA FAGGOTS CURRENTLY POSTING ON THIS FUCKING BOARD WILL PLAY AND DEFEND THIS, CAP THIS FUCKING POST!!!

Plz no.

If the intelligence was anywhere equal to the desire to make a shekel from shilling, perhaps spotting the jew would be more difficult, but when we're dealing with this kind of shitposting you might as well end your post with "BTW I am jewish".

Even consolefags are mad that Fallout 4 is only going to get 2 real DLCs with a $50 season pass, and the Skyrim re-release is pretty controversial.
People are starting to realise what a pack of grabby kikes they are.

while we're here, I kinda want a quake 1 game. Not all that strogg mars mission bullfuckery, just classic quake 1 castles and lovecraftian enemies.
Not claiming to be an oldfag, I played through all the games last year. I just found all the games past 1 to be way less interesting.
If I'm bigoted or autistic I apologise.

You aren't. Q3 is fairly good as a game, but lacks the character of 1
They took a Quake game with very little personality and decided to fuck with the gameplay as well. I cant help but wonder if something went on behind the scenes because I vaguely recall them saying they wanted to make a Lovecraftian Quake before DOODMOOM came out

I wonder what would happen if there was a Quake game with the level design of Unreal.

Yeah, pretty much. Quake was originally supposed to be about Carmack's DnD character. You'd walk around smacking fuckers with a mighty hammer and shit.
Then they realized they were taking way too long for shit to get done, Carmack couldn't actually make that open world stuff happen and they decided they were better off just making another Doom.
Quake really is cobbled together. It's also why it's so unique in it's style.

Quake 2 was planned as yet another fast shooter right from the start. So they made up a story and game world that would fit a shooter. It's called Quake 2 because Quake sold relatively well. It's why Quake 2 is so fucking bland.

Im really starting to believe all great games were accidents

What's the deal with old id's fetish for Mars anyway? Like fuck, everything goes to Mars.

I think every GREAT game comes from people who can consistently make good games accidentally making a great one

lmaoing @ ur life

Quake Live has shit netcode, Quake 3 is a million times better.

Jesus, if it's a mix of Quake wars and Quake 3 arena then why not call it "Quake Wars 2: HUP! Harder" or "Quake 3.2: Fortress Overwatch"

Why call it just fucking Quake? I can't be mad at the fact that it's another quick cash in, because that's just a fact of life at this point, but it bothers me that they sell this as simply "Quake".

Like any of the faggots on infinate chan even give a fuck about Quake. Most of what I read on Holla Forums is "UT99 was way better than Q3A lol".

I can't find anyone active on Reflex, the UT Alpha is a ghost town, Quake Live was on life support even before it suicided with the Steam update, yet I'm supposed to believe that there is a huge Quake fanbase on Holla Forums actually pissed at what this spinoff might be based on vague publisher marketing lines and a CG trailer?

I bet there is not more than 3 people on this whole fucking website who even played CPMA once.

The game will probably suck, but it's not like it would matter, even if it was a glorious rebirth of Quake World / Q3A style Arena Shooters none of you niggers would even play it. Stop raging over shit you'd never play anyway.

Because they thought space was awesome. Explains why he got into rocketry.

I've played the shit out of Quake 2 (I think it's better than 1, don't shoot me) and I even played 4 just about enough times to take a liking to it, 1 not as much because it always felt fairly claustrophobic, and apart from that I did play many of it's unofficial conversions like the horrible "Ravages of apocalypse".

And not even once I tried Quake 3 apart from playing a bit of Quake live to get a feel for it, this is why I'm bothered by this choice to call this multiplayer Quake 3 wannabe simply "Quake" it ignores the fact that for the longest time i was mostly a single player focused series, enough with this "Quake is only quake 3" bullshit.

Forgot picture.

I said Quake World, but whatever. If you think Quake was mainly played for single player, you obviously either were too young to understand the internet, or played Quake on your N64 and have no clue what you are talking about.


It's Called Quake Champions. Is Quake Wars simply Quake? It's a spin-off, what the fuck is wrong with that naming convention?

You are grasping at straws here chromo, this is MY take on the series, and the fact that out of 4 main games, only 2 were mostly online oriented, with Quake 2 only happening to have a very solid Online play, you can count Quake Wars if you want, but most of the time I forget that game exists, though that's mostly my fault so I'll give you that.

And when I say Quake, I mean the series itself, should have called it "Quake Series" that's my bad, but bottom line is that many people who played games in the Quake series, did so for the single player, now it's a matter of tastes, some prefer single player, others multiplayer, but I'm tired of people always pointing towards Quake 3 as what the "Quake series is all about" It's not.

The list is sorted by player count, notice how the "players" tab is highlighted.

every single Quake game has console ports, some like Q3 for Dreamcast can be played with mouse+KB.

this new game looks like Unreal Championship for Xbox

Am I missing something? I heard that this is the fastest selling Doom game. If that's true, then there is no way D44m is a flop because Doom 3 sold over 4 million copies on PC alone.

Source?
When I try to find something for DooD I only get sales numbers for the ffirst Doom and nothing on Doom 4.

Like the original unreal? I think it would trivialize a lot of the encounters. You can really haul ass in Quake and Unreal tends to be really goddamned open, or closed in enough that you could just rocket a hallway into dust


This has nothing to do with Quake Wars, if it did, it would just be another poor man's ET and not clearly heroshit


Hop in a server, jump around for a few minutes

I guess if you're looking for modern AAA numbers. The game still has one of the larger AFPS playerbases

That's where I started, and it's the reason why I have a good 200+ hours in Q3 and 300+ in Reflex

Would probably not go over well with casuals and hipsters. They should have let Quake RIP or maybe focused on team-based multiplayer and revived QW style 4's


Fastest selling != most sales. You're comparing rate of units sold to total units sold. It's certainly possible that it'll outsell Doom 3 overall, but even that might not make it profitable. Remember that Call of Doom 4 was almost a thing and they had to scrap it.

In a vaccuum, sure. Were we talking about "bombing" in terms of immediate profits? From an R&D standpoint, it could easily be considered a success for Bethesda because they got a great engine out of it as well as tons of positive mindshare for a sequel, the game is getting great reviews and selling pretty well.

Other way around, in a vacuum you can talk about how it's seeing a spike in sales that will bode well for Idthesda as long as it continues

Outside of that vacuum you have the reality that DOOM 4 was announced in '08 (and as a result it's probably got a dev cycle not unlike that of DNF, given that games aren't generally announced before work starts), and while both it and RAGE went through development hell, id hasn't been able to even top DOOM 3's sales in 12 years

They lost pretty much their whole tech team to Oculus from what I remember

nuDoom has yet to pass RAGE's 2013 numbers on steamspy, so we'll see how things develop. It's still got a ways to go before it passes worst DOOM (~700k on steam alone from standard and BFG, which iirc makes up a fraction of the sales it had a few years back from physical copies), from what I'm seeing

Steamspy, Doom 4 as of right now only has 600k owners on Steam and that took a month since nuDoom was released in the middle of May and it is now the middle of June. To put that into perspective Doom 3 has some 390k owners this week and BFG edition has 500k owners, that isn't beginning sales that's this week meaning these are the fans who still enjoy playing it and the trickle of latecomers way past a game's prime.

Doom (2016) sold 500,000 copies by may 31st, at $60 a pop that comes out to 30 million dollars. In less than 3 weeks. We can assume that the average production budget for a AAA game on the current gen is around 60 million. There would be some extra cost for advertising but it seems like this game would become profitable within a few months of its release, especially with the favorable reviews and word of mouth.

I remember how the haters on here were saying this game would be trash, and then it turned out to be really good.

I loved Quake. The original. I think they started developing 3 different games and then said, oh shit we don't have the budget for 3 games, lets combine them into one game. Quake was that frankensteins monster. They stitched together a sci-fi game where space marines battled biomechanical aliens, with an eldritch horror game in the style of an H.P. lovecraft novel, with a midieval fantasy game.

All of the Quake sequels so far have been set in the sci-fi setting, or have been arena shooters. What I want is for them to make a pseudo-sequel which is rooted in the eldritch horror part of quake. I want zombies, I want Shub-niggurath and Cthon, I want Vores and hissing flying fetuses that jizz acid while I shoot at them with a nailgun. I want the fucking shambler back.

At least you're right about Quake

They announced that it was in the planning stages, Rage wasn't even out yet at the time


Doom 3 is one of the top 25 best selling PC games of all time and outsold both Doom and Doom 2, so I don't know what you are trying to imply here. Rage didn't sell as much as the sequel in a series that many consider the greatest video game series of all time? OK.


Do you honestly think a whole team of graphics engineers left id software to work on VR technology? Even if that's true, the proof is in the pudding. The engine is done, Bethesda own it, and they already have multiple other games being developed with the offshoot Void Engine which was also developed by id.

Rage was clearly out after they had started work on nuDOOM. They announced that development was starting in 2008, and that "it was in their future" a year prior. They were probably going to roll people off of RAGE and onto Call of Doom but RAGE took longer to develop than they likely planned. They then RESTARTED in 2011 after having created enough of Call of Doom to start the marketing push and took 5 years to make a single player game (multi was outsourced). That's pricey as fuck

source? I've yet to find any definitive numbers on DOOM's sales figures, only estimates and the bit about it being more popular than Windows when it came out

1. That's a very specific list. Pretty sure DOOM isn't being measured as a PC game, and none of the DOOM games are PC only
2. Do you have a source that isn't wikipedia for that?

id has always had a high turnover rate. There's a reason why only two employees are left over from when id was actually good. Additionally, that engine probably cost them a metric fuckton of money to make (engine work is never cheap) and they'd actually have to make multiple successful games for that to be considered a good move from a business standpoint. Zenimax isn't concerned with pushing tech like Carmack and co were, so this will be purely seen as an investment

Again, we'll see how this turns out. It's entirely possible that enough casuals and normalfags will be impressed with nuDoom that it'll pay for that longass development time, but that's not going to be determined by even a couple months of 600k sales, especially once you factor in the modern AAA marketing budget

That's pretty much how they sell reboots these days. Include the most superficial features so that when people start to criticize the game, devs/fans can point to those features and say "see look! it's just like the original!"

And when you point out the stuff they included that sets it apart from the original, they'll find a way to justify it, usually by saying that nearly every game has this nowadays or that the original game had something vaguely related to it. And the fans will eat it up, because they'll do anything to spite those stupid entitled nostalgia-goggles-wearing pissbaby gamerbros.

yes, Carmack would have every reason to bring the reliable team he has worked with for years to work with him at Oculus. i'm not sure why this is surprising to you.

whats up with the small enemy limit then?

The demo was total shit.

muh gwafix. It's a completely avoidable limitation of the engine, iirc. Something to do with textures.


It was probably just so people with toasters don't complain that they can't get 120 FPS, like the vidya version of "kills 99% of germs".


kill self


They aren't, it's called Quake Champions.

It is going to be fucking great
youtube.com/watch?v=RvDyLCadGGY

Your thread are deleted and you bump this one, Mr. Shill?

They are really DESPERATE.

Try again, nigger
Cute.

Fuck off.

You just made a thread where you proved how much of a retarded faggot you are and that got deleted.
Kill yourself, fam.

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And the game wont allow you to do it if your health is too low

Calling it now.

People who whine about games being dead in spite of the fact that people still play them are the worst. Declaring a game dead before its player count reaches 0 at all times is a self-fulfiling prophecy, if you like a game then you should always strive to keep its community alive by playing it and introducing others to it.

Also I play xonotic semi-regularly, in EU there are plenty of players, in america not as many but there are some. You just need to look during prime time hours, you're bound to find servers with players in it within your ping range if you are EU and log on during primetime hours. If you are american, idk, some days there are players some days there aren't. Either way there is nothing stopping you from playing with friends.

This faggot probably lives in america took that screenshot expecting there to be players on at 12 o clock in the morning.

sauce?

These images aren't currently up anywhere here, are they?

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top fucking kek

Anyone gonna post a link to Quake 1, 2, and/or 3 or we just gonna circlejerk over how bad this fake bullshit will be?

Share Thread OP

Already looked, not there.

You looked through the entire Mega Archive, and the alternative sites for various games, in the span of 14 minutes. lazy faggot

Every franchise we love will be bastardized to thunderous applause as millennials buy it in droves.

Welcome to extinction.

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I looked through the archive and nothing was there, I looked on /scurv/ and got sent to removed torrents on kat.

Jesus fucking christ numbers 1 through 22 ware stockpiles of stuff in one folder in mega you manually sift through and at the bottom of the fucking OP is a bin with sites to go to. Here two sites with all four Quakes on it. f3 + Quake

igg-games.com/list-game.html

theisozone.com/search/

igg isn't bullshit?

No, it's just everything is broken up into a bazillion separate links with easily dealth redirects. WFor example in firefox with No Script, Request Policy, and Adblock whatever bullshit the redirects could do to you becomes useless against you.

For Isozone you need DOSbox

This thread doesn't seem like we're "falling for it"

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You're a barrel of laughs faggot

Is that a codeword for sucking corporate dick ?

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this I played the demo and even ignoring the fact that you can only access the console to turn off mouse accel in the full version of the game its still pretty mediocre.

The color pallete they used is bad, some enemies will blend in at long ranges, bad ai for imps, glory kills are centric to combat and shit on the game's pacing, the shotgun sucks, not particularly well optimized, clearly not as fast as old doom or even quake, and I played the game on 120 fov, which is what i use for quake 3 and xonotic both of which I play semi-frequently.

You're too much

Fucking god damn it, here we go again.

sage negated

i wont forget

Reddit is more your spped, shill

Good posts, good posters. Fuck off and let this thread rot you babies.

Well it was made by a company that had a good reputation for making arena shooters in 2010, even with the loadouts and all the other shit changes that made people leave as well as its poorly optimized engine and bad netcode is bound to have more players than other games.

Reflex is still in early access and it was made by devs with no reputation for making good fps games and who haven't marketed the game yet so of course its not going to have many players.

It will probably get more once it gets out of early access.

It is, plus some of the balancing changes they made were awful. Machine gun used to be useful in ffa but they nerfed it a fuckton in live. Used to do 8 damage per hit now its 5 damage per hit and the rate of fire is the same.

The thing is almost fucking useless now and that pisses me off when trying to play it. Put enough players on a large enough map and the engine spergs out and you lose a ton of frames. Fuck that game.

did morrissey suddenly stop being a fat fuck now


no, but imageboards are one hell of a myopic echo chamber


>Quakecon is now even more boring than usual

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Go on. You're just precious.

wew


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I think we're done here.

implying you ever had one besides


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While getting shilled and white knighted everywhere.

the new iterations are better, friendo

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You know what they'll reboot next, don't you?

right, because that primitive shit is so good

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Counter sage.

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this

or I mean come on even giving the Reflex devs money for their early access game is better than supporting id at this point.

You can complain all you want about the low player counts but the fact of the matter is that the people who whine about these games being dead are the only ones who can ressurect them.

Just play on a server with a friend if you can't find one in the browser that has people on it.

Xonotic thread for anyone who is interested:
8ch.net/v/res/9692394.html

Nah.

I swear some of you faggots better be shilling this for money/ironically.

I'l be shilling for money, thank you Todd.

I only shill for ironically

bummer

ITS A BIRD, ITS A PLANE, NO ITS QUAKE CHAMPIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

To make OC and showcase how fucking bad it is in comparison to the original and even by today's standards. You people need to calm your autism, who cares if people pirate shitty games

I feel like while this is meant to be shitty, itd be funnier if it was done as a doom wad

nice meme

you have categories on so you're missing most of the servers with players