The meaning of Edge

Andrew Diaz
Andrew Diaz

cool dystopian futures
grim-dark settings with very slick style and great one-liners
are right at the point of going over the edge-o-meter, but keep skillfully riding it

What other movies/animations are there in the style of Batman Beyond, Blade and The Matrix? It's this weird mix of late 90's- early 00's edge where things never went full Not Important, and wearing shades, having trenchcoats and dual-wielding katanas was the height of style. A sort of shameless and honest expression of "badass edge."

More importantly, how would you define this genre/style? I remember it being everywhere at some point, even the music videos and bands of the time seemed to embrace this sort of nihilistic style of edgyness, like Sister Machine Gun. The intro music to Batman Beyond was also extremely good. Then it all disappeared pretty quickly when the hype for the new millenium ended. I've tried searching with all sorts of keywords but I never have seen it defined properly. Recommend some similar bands while you're at it.

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Landon Lopez
Landon Lopez

I'll give you props OP, at least you corrected your last shit thread. Still doesn't hide the fact you came from that shithole though.

Angel Reed
Angel Reed

I guess I just think of it as 90s cool. Batman Beyond was a cyberpunk/superhero mashup, but Blade's setting and aesthetic was more like "goth rave."
Some stuff you might like:
Ghost Rider 2099
Aeon Flux
Maybe the Phantom 2040 cartoon
Dredd (2012)
various Grendel comics

Honestly, most of the things that come to mind in relation to that 90s style are movies and music that have nothing to do with Holla Forums.

Henry Fisher
Henry Fisher

Alright, thanks for the recs.

Honestly, most of the things that come to mind in relation to that 90s style are movies and music that have nothing to do with Holla Forums.
I know, I stated my reason for this before in my previous thread that I had to nuke since Holla Forums are afraid of mentioning a certain board and I had to edit my post by removing one sentence, so as not to trigger the autists like and get my thread sunk.

Parker Rogers
Parker Rogers

Try reading/watching Spawn

Hunter Moore
Hunter Moore

It's not that Holla Forums is afraid to mention /tv/, it's just that we aren't /tv/. I know that place is a shithole but you might get more film and music recs in the vein of Blade there. I wish I could recommend more comics and cartoons that might fit what you're looking for.

Sin City, if you've never read it. The first few miniseries are good. They're more neo-noir but they do have that highly stylized, rule of cool kind of action.

Jose Cruz
Jose Cruz

Alot of what you are asking for exists more in anime

Jaxon Watson
Jaxon Watson

Planetary, at times.
Apparently there's a comic of Underworld, which was a little bit similar to Blade, visually.

Levi Wood
Levi Wood

So now the "hey /tv/" autist is deciding policy? Thanks, I suspected he was a mod, now you've confirmed it.

Christopher Ramirez
Christopher Ramirez

since Holla Forums are afraid of mentioning a certain board
It's one sperg that you can just report and ignore.
The vols always delete his faggotry, it just takes them time since they're probably not in the same timezone as the hey poster/shift key cuck.
Don't let one faggot make you so paranoid.

John Bennett
John Bennett

If he was a mod he'd have banned a lot of anons by now and killed the board.

Sebastian Ramirez
Sebastian Ramirez

cybersix might be along the lines of what you're looking for.
sherlock holmes in the 22nd century might fit, but i think it only got a few episodes before being cancelled and i don't recall too much about it.
probably wasn't that good.

Ayden Rodriguez
Ayden Rodriguez

Shiftkey's broken user, just giving you a heads up.

Mason White
Mason White

wouldn't spawn qualify as not important tier edge though?

Connor Hughes
Connor Hughes

Coming from person like you and the way you type, anything is possible.

Grayson James
Grayson James

gargoyles may also apply now that i think about it

Landon Bailey
Landon Bailey

New York may be a shithole but its no dystopian yet, they can still spell properly just to point it out.

Daniel Lee
Daniel Lee

The Crow is definitely 90s edge. Or maybe it was late 80s. The movie came out in the 90s. It's more gritty than Blade and Batman Beyond but it has that cool nihilism, and the movie soundtrack is pretty badass.

Kevin Johnson
Kevin Johnson

The Crow absolutely counts.

Alexander Adams
Alexander Adams

i don't think there were too many cartoons like what you're asking for honestly op
there's good suggestions itt, but most of the 'badass' shows from that period were either retarded edgy or had too many comedic elements to really even qualify as edgy.

Jordan Reyes
Jordan Reyes

Considering your "against the system style of writing", of course you'd be the perfect judge just for edge.

Christian Lewis
Christian Lewis

The band Suicide recorded this great song about the Ghost Rider.

Michael Carter
Michael Carter

Too melodically, needs more bass.

Matthew Nguyen
Matthew Nguyen

How 'bout this Anthrax song about Judge Dredd?
It's pretty cheesy

Nathaniel Rivera
Nathaniel Rivera

Better but it needs a more "smoker heavy" voice.

Brandon Fisher
Brandon Fisher

nothing wrong with cheese when it sounds good

Sebastian Bailey
Sebastian Bailey

Says the pop faggot who can't spell for shit.

Jacob Roberts
Jacob Roberts

I've never read the comic Faust, but its movie adaptation featured Fear Factory, and I bet you like them.

Noah Turner
Noah Turner

I'll look into them.

Jayden Ross
Jayden Ross

There was a Chilean cartoon called Cyber Six that came out in the 90's. She wore a fedora and dracula like cape. Would she count?

Parker Diaz
Parker Diaz

90s edge you say?

Alexander Adams
Alexander Adams

She wasn't really edgy in the cartoon. More stylish… Though the comics were very edgy. I seem to recall the evil kid genius raping a few chicks.

David Foster
David Foster

The Offspring
Is it wrong to like them or at least some of their songs?

Justin Reyes
Justin Reyes

The Offspring are fine. It's Greenday that's turned into a bunch of kool-aid chugging faggots who spend their days whining about how video games cause school shootings and how Trump is literally Hitler.

Zachary Flores
Zachary Flores

I feel ashamed I used to like Green Day in my youth.

Xavier Gomez
Xavier Gomez

I AM THE EDGE

Dylan Smith
Dylan Smith

OP, "Cyberpunk" pretty much covers everything you just said.

Grendel: Devil's Legacy
Zero Assassin
Sin City
Hard Boiled
Ronin
The Spawn cartoon
Aeon Flux
Donna Matrix
Machete
Highlander
V for Vendetta
Tailgunner/Jo
Marshal Law
RanXerox
Sex & Violence
Ghost Rider 2099

Justin Murphy
Justin Murphy

More importantly, how would you define this genre/style?
Trenchcoats & Katanas.

Levi Wood
Levi Wood

Chilean
*Argentine.

Sebastian Adams
Sebastian Adams

Green Day was shot even before they hopped on the Fuck Drumpf bandwagon.
They were penny ante punkers who sold out the minute they smelled record industry shekels. Not only did they degrade punk further, but they were and are massive sellouts. They were hot shit during the Bush years because they jumped on the wagon of making fun of Dubya. Then they slinked off during the Obama years because they didn’t want to criticize Black Jesus. But now a Republican is back in the White House so here comes Grey Dusk the forty year old pop-“punk” sellouts to #resist.

Leo Stewart
Leo Stewart

What about Bad Religion?

Camden Walker
Camden Walker

no, some of their songs are pretty damn good. they do have a few that grate the ears though.

Isaac Peterson
Isaac Peterson

BRIGHT RED CHOO-CHOO TRAINS

Brandon Mitchell
Brandon Mitchell

The things you're referencing are mostly Cyberpunk and you're interlinking that with edgy characters and settings. Yes, they do come together packaged in the late '9o but the connection is not mandatory.

Also y'all forgot Equilibrium and the gun kata memes

Logan Cruz
Logan Cruz

thats not a fedora come one

Jonathan Green
Jonathan Green

I'm sorry user I'm not knowledgable on hats.

Jose Cox
Jose Cox

user, your shiftkey is broken.

Brayden Turner
Brayden Turner

I nearly forgot the absolute quintessence, the distillation of Edge itself.

Alexander Davis
Alexander Davis

bump

Ian Ward
Ian Ward

Pretty sure it is either a fedora or panama hat.

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Michael Torres
Michael Torres

Skindred
Muh Nigga

Jordan Rodriguez
Jordan Rodriguez

I think he wanted to bone Cybersix, but I don't think he ever did.

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Jason Jenkins
Jason Jenkins

the females have faces and tits

Jack Nelson
Jack Nelson

Don't forget the Underworld series.

Jose Rivera
Jose Rivera

It's a wide-brimmed fedora, like The Shadow and the fourth Doctor wears. It's just as large as a sombrero cordobés, like Zorro wears.

Jayden Sanders
Jayden Sanders

Actually it's pretty much a Carmen Sandiego hat.

Joseph Hughes
Joseph Hughes

South American version of Darkwing Duck sure looks a lot hotter than the US version.

Benjamin Harris
Benjamin Harris

More importantly, how would you define this genre/style?
What you're describing is basically the Y2K aesthetic that surrounded the year 2000. It started from the late 90s when the internet was getting popularized along with all the technologies of its era like personal computers, Windows 95/98, digital media players…etc. Everyone had this optimistic outlook for a technologically advanced future, which was hyped further by the approach of the year 2000 marking the start of a new millennium and a new century.
This made way for a lot of sci-fi inspired media to be made, from movies to series to video games to music, the most prominent examples being the ones you already mentioned… It all came to an end when 9/11 happened, showering the world in a feeling of terror and fear, replacing the futuristic millennial optimism. This explains the later part of the 2000s being characterized by dystopian/apocalyptic themed media.

Anyway if you wanna get into more movies/series of that era look for anything released between 1998 and 2001, this blog might give you ideas and take you on a walk down memory lane
y2kaestheticinstitute.tumblr.com/

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Robert Gray
Robert Gray

Is this era connected to Seapunk?

Jonathan Gutierrez
Jonathan Gutierrez

Thank you user for the explanation of hats.

Jace Cruz
Jace Cruz

shway

Nathaniel Young
Nathaniel Young

Is Scud the disposable assassin edgy?

I want a 3/4 newsboy cap

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Ryder Thompson
Ryder Thompson

2/10 no trilby would not hat

Xavier Wood
Xavier Wood

It's Seapunk.
Needs more dolphins, pyramids, palm trees and floating reflective spheres.

I guess Seapunk was Cyberpunk running into New Age. It was a more optimistic view of technology acquiring A e s t h e t i c and spirituality, evolving out of the narcissistic and materialistic 80's.
Then, as you say, 9-11 happened, the government started cracking down on internet neutrality, and we lost the Star Trek: Next Generation future.
I think we lost the Steampunk/Dieselpunk future when Paul Otlet's work was disrupted by both World Wars, and we lost the Atomic Age Jetsons future when Buckminster Fuller had his second mental breakdown after WW2.

Juan Ward
Juan Ward

It doesn’t necessarily start edgy but man does it get there towards the end. You can almost feel the fedora tipping grit.

Landon Green
Landon Green

Needs more dolphins, pyramids, palm trees and floating reflective spheres.
So basically vaporwave but with minor differences?..
By the way calling that era seapunk is like calling the 80s vaporwave, an aesthetic movement from the 10s =/= the era that inspired it.

Daniel Ward
Daniel Ward

Oh god this shit. Unironically thought it was better than the OG madness

Caleb Gutierrez
Caleb Gutierrez

Edgy - the sarcastic definitions

Definition #1
Something carefully constructed to look dangerous, subversive or shocking while in reality being designed to be as harmless, bland and marketable as possible. This also applies on a personal level, where a person may attempt to present themselves as roguish and tough, but in reality this is little more than a false persona.
See: Emo kids, The Covenant

Definition #2
Speaking or acting in a way that is genuinely shocking or dangerous, but holds no value, isn't subversive in a menaingful way and only serves to inflate the person's ego or help them present a public image of toughness and danger. In artistic works, this could mean a work of art that is intentionally shocking or even revolting, but has no message or artistic value.
See: Common criminals, bands like analcunt

Definition #3
Something that tries to appear threatening, subversive or dangerous but ends up being comical or ridiculous. In these cases, these works, words or actions can become charming or even enjoyable because of their absurdity.
See: Shadow the Hedgehog memes, bands like analcunt

Camden Nguyen
Camden Nguyen

Nobody cares user

Isaac Kelly
Isaac Kelly

whats so edgy about the covenant ?

Adam Carter
Adam Carter

Now I feel sad about what was taken from us.

Noah Hall
Noah Hall

That's edgy.

Wyatt Gonzalez
Wyatt Gonzalez

I guess it involved wannabe witches and Wiccans were a thing in the 90's? Seems more pseudo counterculture more than anything.

Dominic Taylor
Dominic Taylor

An edge thread without Jack is just not a good thread. Jack is edge given a tangible form. its entertaining for this reason. it's a train wreck unending and wholly without irony. This epic brought to us by one David Hopkins is countless years of terrible despite this Jacks overarching narrative is at time pretty good and even interesting.
In a way the problem with the modern use of edge prevents it from being good in the old days when everything was edgy it was just the tone of the time but now edge has become an unfortunate relic. Anything that is poorly done with dark or gritty tones is automatically edgy and is then treated as a a part of the problem and not a solution to it.

somewhat related would anyone happen to have the image of Raiden from Metal Gear Rising with the pickax arms I've been searching everywhere for it.it was posted in an edge thread ages ago but i forgot to save it.

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Hunter Williams
Hunter Williams

Jack is a good webcomic and I'm glad David has been drawing Jack for 17 years (and Rework the Dead 1 and 2 for years before that) despite all the bullshit tumblrinas give him.

Blake Reed
Blake Reed

not making a thread and story-timing it

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Dylan Ward
Dylan Ward

I had to lol when he was accused of phone rape.

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