Nazis have actually achieved world piece

They say it but never show it nor present proof of it.
It might as well be anti-nazi propaganda

You mean circumcised?

The reason they have laser guns is so you can shoot nazis in the face with these lazer guns. The game is designed around the rule of cool and you are trying to say that it means something. It doesn't, this game barely has a plot and setting.
In Wolfenstein 3d you fought Hitler in a mecha suit, does that mean that all that technological marvel shit was in there since the original?

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Well yeah, they explain it in the game. Even in 194X the nazis already have huge robots and tech.

It's bad writing. The game's the sequel to the 2009 game (which is some sequel that uses the name of the original) which was utter fucking shit, so much so that Ross fucking Scott had to put it down.

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Also, to address the OP, have you ever heard of Godwin's Law? It doesn't matter if the nazis themselves are good willed; the idea is that they're so horrific that they're the ultimate evil no matter what they do. It doesn't matter if they managed to achieve what we couldn't do in 1960 (in a video game), the whole point is that "they're evil, let's killem."

That's what he's trying to rectify, but he's in the field. Gotta bite it off, user. Quicktime circumcision executions when?

Swedes, who else?

I'm not gonna argue with Holla Forums about shit none of us have control over but this is a terrible thread. Someone start suggesting me single player FPS where I play as a nazi bls.

Shit writing overall, on top of completely uninspired level design that is all shades of grey, shit enemy variety, shit enemy AI, shit gun variety, horrible pacing, unlikeable cast and asinine writing that is as self aware as a rock.

The story might be shit, but the Wolfenstein universe is interesting.

that part made everything differen,t in Wolfenstein apparently there are powerful jewish kabals scheming in the background and "guiding" the world.

I don't think any exist. I'm sure somebody'll go for an althistory Axis shooter where you are the little Castle Wolfenstein officer at some point in the near future just for the controversybux. Shame, because while that sounds pretty fun, I'd prefer something a little more mild with the Axis being maybe a year ahead of OTL technologically (as was potentially the case with Germany's low priority on high-velocity 75mm guns, amongst other things that they could've been more on the ball about) and a few strategical & tactical butterflies for a reasonable Axis general victory without it being a curbstomp.

Are you a re-re OP?
The Nazis are clearly supposed to be unlikable and you should be attacking that part instead of trying to make them seem good. All that technological advancement was literally stolen from the Jews in that game, and they are clearly acting like Hollywood portrayals of them (e.g. treating other Europeans like complete shit bulldozing most of London to the ground and replacing it with slums or gunning down insane asylums).
Be consistent and pick one track.

Call of Duty let's you play as a Nazi it's pretty cool it even has zombies.

If the Nazis were good guys, why do you have to kill them D^)

Fair point.

The problem comes with how they portray the other side. Like said there's now a Jewish cabal of priest scientists that "guide" the world from the shadows and somehow invent super advanced technology, you have BJ that is pretty much a retarded, PTSD suffering mass murderer on a rampage, a resistance consisting of complete sociopaths.

There are no good sides, yet the narrative consistently tries to make you feel like the resistance is in the right. The only sympathetic characters were the German guy and the retard. BJ and his cunt are just horrible people.

There is no point in dissecting this shitfest of a plot, no matter what the nazis actually did or accomplished, they are evil because they're nazis, just like in real life

FUCKING LEAVE!!!

"What if" scenarios usually are, granted there's good writing to back it up.

It's a shame, I've always had an interest in them from a military perspective. Oh well. Once society's political compass swings back into the right from all the left drama happening right now, I'm sure we'll see a game someday.

In case this isn't a shitpost, I've played plenty of CoD. More than I care to admit, and it doesn't hit the sweet spot well enough.

It does make me wonder why there is such a fixation on Nazis in (Western) fiction. Is it because they are the most recent "bad guy" in the shared consciousness of the West?

I mean, relatively speaking, they were no more villainous than any other group of people in history. Certainly no more than Stalinist Russia, Mao's China or other contemporaries, let alone shit like Pol Pot or Dear Leader. What exactly did they do that was so novel in terms of cruelty and villainy? Shoah the Jews? That's been a thing since Jews were Jews.

So why are they repeatedly dragged up to be the villain of the week in anything and everything?

They were depicted as evil assholes so despite the greatness they can achieve they all have to be defeated & subjugated. War Propaganda 101.

It mirrors the narratives of WW2 propaganda pretty well. Strip an adversary of humanity using the press & entertainment, then do whatever you please to them. Now they've got bored with turning Germans into cucks, degenerates & an overall mockery of everything they once were & decided to really push the final solution of genocide through mass non-white immigration to displacement & mix them out of existence for good.

give me freedom or give me death

I like when games get to have commies as the antagonists.
Freedom Fighters is some good shit.

Because the Jews own the media.

Yeah because the jews are fucking with the concrete formula

I'd just like a game that allows you to explore the world of "bad guys won" from a perspective that isn't a resistance fighter or goon-turned-good-goy.

Because you can't show communism in a bad light goyim, most of them were jews you know.

Plenty of fiction portrays communism (or at least the Soviets) in a bad light though.

Then again, Call of Duty let you play as a Soviet soldier in WW2, but not a German one, which I always found shit.

What games? Because I can't think of any that mention how the USSR was way worse than even the most exaggerated holohoax numbers.

In the sense that they are the evil guys, not that they have a higher death toll than the Nazis.

You have neither in any side

They lost a war that shouldn't have happened, the ((cabbals)) that caused and won that war went into overdrive to brainwash and indoctrinate the population into believing that the war was not only completely justified, but obviously necessary, and that the "good guys won and the bad guys lost".

Basically this

It's just that media kikes have swallowed their own lies to the point of complete fetishization, and the people have become so lobotomized and paranoid about the imaginary nazi demons just waiting to take over the world that literally anything tangentially ressembling national socialism weather in easthetic or ideology will be labelled as "nazi" and remember, that's just so fucking evil omg, it has been in the las 50 years.
Monkey see monkey do.

I was watching a movie called Highlander The Search for Vengeance today, and basically the protag was some celt while the antagonist was an immortal roman. The wife of the protag drugged the protag and then went to the roman to plead for mercy, and then when he didn't want to she stabbed him, found out he was immortal and then got crucified while the romans razed the celt village to the ground.

Protag gets mad and tries to assassinate roman, gets his ass whooped and realizes he is immortal and gets a druid priest spirit guide.
Immediately protag decides to take revenge and proceeds to get his ass whooped by the roman throughout 2000 years of conflict. In one conflict protag is british, roman is nazi and they both fall through a church where protag is really hurt but roman won't kill him because it's holy ground. Roman tries to talk protag out of his quest for vengeance, saying that while the roman has been learning shittons of things, like three dozen languages, good painting, poetry and securing himself some pretty hot immortal ass the protag has been doing nothing but wanting to kill the roman and has only stumbled upon a good katana at some point throughout those 2000 years.

And then the final conflict happens where roman has made new york his own bitch where he has the citizens infected with a lethal virus because ??? and then protag realizes christian prostitute no seriously, she's supposed to be super devout and whatnot, going so far as keeping her crucifix on during the sex scene with a heart of gold is actually his dead wife reencarnated and the protag was too stupid to see that she was reincarnated a bunch of times during those conflicts.

Then prostitute dies and then protag kills roman and the quickening wipes out the lethal virus and suddenly protag is a better man.

tl:dr; antagonist literally did not do anything wrong except for the virus shit, protag's a dumbass.

Pretty cool movie though, recommended watch if you're not put off by spoilers

The irony of this portrayal in media is that you can own shit in irl Nazi Germany, and for firearms just join the Nazi party and become a citizen. In fact the Nazi party relaxed and loosened the gun control laws that were already in place.

I remember getting a friend into Jojo and he liked it till part two because he felt uncomfortable with the fact a Nazi was one of the good guys.

The fuck? Stroheim was the best thing about Part 2.

Communism is always portrayed as the lesser of two evils, as a simple missunderstanding between human beigns, humanizing germans however is an absolute taboo, and even if that taboo is broken, it's always a "omg I'm a german soldier and I know my side is OBVIOUSLY the evil one and I'm either going to deffect or do what I'm told but knowingly that we're the bad guys, I just want to survive the war" scenario.

There can be no reconciliation with nazis in media, otherwise the goyim might get funny ideas like presserving their race, all peoples staying in their own countries and not having a federal resserve.

Stronheim is a true bro.

I love how the deathtoll from communism is several factors larger than the "reported" numbers from nazism. Yet guess which one is "le ultimate ebul"

Because nazis were the last formidably enemy the US had a real war with.

it sems to be an american thing.
All Nazis have to be evil for some reason.
I say this since I come from a spic family and was raised in spicland for some time and almost everyone there had no trouble with Hitler. they always said that Hitler was an alright guy who loved hos country but got crazy with Power.

Some people are truly good goyim, sometimes you can even see some post on here defending a shit game for free

obviously the one that obstructed kike interests, that's just inhumane.

formidable

'k boss man

I always wonder if nazis won if most would complain about the world then and wish that the allies would have won. In my mind an alternate history is just "the grass is greener on the other side of the fence" type of deal.

fuck off commie

Fuck off, kike.

I'm a Slav so shit pisses me off.
When I talk to various Westerners, even ones that aren't commies at all they often don't even believe how horrible some shit the commies did was. That's the mark of a very shitty system - so shitty people don't even believe you about its shittiness.

how about you just fuck off to north korea you freedom hating cuck.

this is the thing the only way to achieve world piece is tyrannical rule

IF they Nazis won there would be no more wars but you also would be allowed to have options on most things. the internet would most likely never happen.

there is always a tug of war between freedom and safety.

Jewish values are modern America
American values are classic America
Please shitpost less obviously

America has been a Jewish state for over a hundred years now. American values are Jewish values. American and Jewish are synonymous.

The man on the high castle is not a realistic portrayal of what would have happened, nazis were isolationists, they just wanted to be free in their own countries and supported the idea of other countries and people doing the same (that's why they had the first multiracial army in history and even americans sympathized with them before the brainwash).
If you really think you are living the "freedom" outcome and not the "safety" one you are wrong.

Get back to where you once belonged, you revisionist marxist pieces of shit.

Your friend sounds more like a retarded cuck than anything else.

Oh shit, whoops. Forgot to take that off from when a global mod shitposted.

well too bad that most of the population are retarded cucks anyway.

That's kinda the opposite of the truth.

Are you aware of Lebensraum and the plans to "Germanize" the East, driving out the native populations?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generalplan_Ost

Read The Man in the High Castle. Do it.

Culturally enrich you mean :^)

That book sucks ass.

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HAHAHAHA apparently you are not aware why they started to annex land

Hitler did want to enslave the slavs

Clearly the gud guy

Have some primary sources, then. I gave you wikipedia because you don't seem to be aware of the very basics.

Lebensraum was a key plank of Nazi policy. It's in Mein Kampf way back in 1925. Read more.

worldfuturefund.org/wffmaster/Reading/GPO/gpo sources.htm

To be honest, the thing that made me chuckle the most about this game is that the Nazi's actually used all of this advanced technology properly. In World War 2 the Nazis developed or at least had designed all sorts of very advanced technology, but also showed almost complete incompetence when it came to actually using it. A lot of it was because Hitler kept on meddling with the programs. The Me-262 for example was leaps and bounds ahead of any other fighter during World War 2 (Arguably it could have even been effective against more advanced fighters like the F-86), but it was used as a fighter-bomber for most of the war. A more realistic scenario would be that Nazi Germany gains all of this technology but has trouble properly utilizing it and eventually falls because it doesn't understand the significance of its advancements.

Well they are pretty evil, they keep rounding people up and sending them to killing camps. Also a shiton of people have lost their freedom. I certainly wouldn't wanna live in the wolfenstain world

Its part of the main plot, there was a mold going around that they didn't know how to contain.

wintersonnenwende.com/scriptorium/english/archives/articles/wrsynopsis.html

Occupation originated from poles and other surrounding countries unlawfully killing german residents and germany occupying the place to set things straight, it simply coincided that war erupted and occupying land to seize resources and infraestructure became neccessary to advance the war effort, your intial claim was that a world where nazis won would be completely conquered by a "tyrannical rule" and your only basis to think that is the fact they had an explicit plan to occupy the land and seize the resources of their enemies and other potential threats in war time.
Get real man.

A-At least we have multiculturalism, right? Thank's Jews for equality!
kill me

Afaik he considered them subhuman (and even then that isn't a confirmed fact, but more likely a commie propaganda to proppel the anti-natsoc sentiment among slavs).
Slavs being slaves comes from the berber slave trade, are you sure you'te not mixing those two?

I didn't mention occupation. The Nazis had a *plan*, way back in the 1920s, to expand eastwards and colonize lands in which there were no ethnic Germans.

This was completely independent from the question of ethnic German enclaves such as the Sudetenland, which you seem to be confusing it with.

It was an explicit Nazi plan that they would expand eastwards and form German colonies, right the way into the Ukraine and up to Russia.

I made no such claim. You said the Nazis were isolationist and were perfectly happy to let others live in peace in their own countries… I pointed out that this is laughably false - they planned all along to invade Eastern countries and kick out the original inhabitants, "Germanizing" them.

That's the opposite of an "isolationist" policy, or one that wants to let others live in peace. It is explicitly aggressively expansionist, at least towards Eastern Europe.

Hitler, 1941:

"There is only one task: Germanization through the introduction of Germans [to the area] and to treat the original inhabitants like Indians. … I intend to stay this course with ice-cold determination. I feel myself to be the executor of the will of History. What people think of me at present is all of no consequence. Never have I heard a German who has bread to eat express concern that the ground where the grain was grown had to be conquered by the sword. We eat Canadian wheat and never think of the Indians.”

It's realistic. National socialists built an utopia and some jealous nutjob fucked it up, then made up an unlikely story of 6mil bodies magically disappearing with no trace to justify their actions.

Now user, let's not get silly.

Sounds like an utopia to me user

It's 6 billion you anti-Semite, never again.

No, if the Nazis had won there would be no communism, no cultural Marxism, no white genocide, no affirmative action, no feminism, and no destruction of the video game industry.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHA
HE ACTUALLY BELIEVES THE PROPAGANDA

HE'S STILL DOING IT

WE HAVE THIS THREAD EVERY WEEK

ah, it was bait, nevermind…

sick prank comrade ;^)

really?

I thought you were talking about real life. Sorry i guess.

Gee, I guess that means he wanted to annex the world lol wow Mr. Goldbergsteinowitz told me so

See:>>9589805
And kill yourself.

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To be fair Hitler did want to turn Russia into some kind of protectorate after the war for farming and oil, similar to Poland.

But practically every leader in history has wanted more land for more stuff, it's just that when it comes to Hitler every good goy spergs out and starts yelling "muh world domination."

I wouldn't have minded a decade or three of German control. There would have been huge advances in tech and medicine.
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I'm not talking about reclaiming pre-Versailles German territories.

I'm talking about the plans in Mein Kampf and elsewhere to colonize land that never had any German inhabitants.

And I'm not expanding that into "world conquest", just pointing out that they certainly were not isolationists who just wanted everyone to, like, live in peace, man.

Was the burning of books okay though? Defend this

History is written by the winners.

They would still exist user. They would just fuck in private.
Also gay people tend to have a higher chance of being scientists.

They also killed a shitload of innocents in camps. Thsts the point, there was a tyrannical rule in the game where random people were killed.

I see nothing wrong with this

Yeah because it's not like Hitler turned Germany from one of the shittiest economic backwaters of Europe to an economic superpower in 5 years because he kicked the globalist bankers out.

Short term economic booms based off of a conquest life style wouldn't have lasted faggot.

nah, thats more to do with the science community is more open to that kind of thing vs other industries.

user there wouldn't even be a videogame industry. It woul likely be looked upon as "degenerate".

user do you know when WW2 started and when Hitler took power? Here's a hint, the dates are years apart.

That officer should've been eva braun, otherwise p good.

If we assume you are not being a proxy fag, you are still deffending that claim by extension.

Makes sense when a massive impregnable snowy shithole controlled by commies is planning to end you, honestly, Isolationism doesn't mean your just going to curl up in a ball and ignore everyone else, specialy not when they are attacking you or planning to do so.

Let's assume that mein kampf passage isn't edited to hell and back like the rest of editions that aren't the official english translation, even then it doesn't prove whatever you're trying to prove, Germans intended to be isolationists, at best it only proves that hitler tought poorly of the slavs.

There's nothing wrong with purging corrupting influences from your society

Even if the Holocaust actually happened, it's not like every Nazi was an irredeemably awful person. People who are good at heart can still work for an "evil" agenda. Plenty of Nazis just loved their country. ISIS is terrible, but its members are still humans, some of whom may be good at heart, but are accomplices to terrible acts. You don't have to follow every opinion that your leaders believe. Morality's not black and white.

Even if Nazis were irredeemably evil by default, Stroheim was still one of the best things about Part 2.

Even if the Nazis had won we wouldn't have that technology in 2016. Maybe in the 40s up to the 80s we thought we would but scientists have realized that these technologies are far more complex than we thought they were. In fact, some technologies, like space travel, likely wouldn't be as advanced if the Nazis had won. The most notable of space programs, such as Apollo, Soyuz, the Shuttle, and Buran are direct results of the cold war, which would have never happened if the Nazis had won. If the testimony of Wernher Von Braun is to be believed the Nazis saw rocket technology as nothing more than a means for delivering weapons as with the V-2 and Me-163.

They where burning these

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Before the war Hitler used communist like economic strategies that were short term and directed towards non trade which wouldn't have lasted without the war.

This.
Ban vidya and anime.

Okay

Iirc, it was shitty marxist writings and other things that had nothing of value.
It was closer to say, burning hard drives filled with Gone Home, Fem Freq videos and other sjw cancer than something like books detailing logic and reason.

Although, I do see the problem in establishing a precedent of forcibly removing things which could turn nasty if the government ever grows corrupt/drunk on their own power.

Im okay i mean, with that.

yes! Ban shit quality vidya and anime. Make them great again!

For the goyim, it's because they make a good morally-clear enemy to fight in any scenario, be it past, present or future, since the public consciousness has had "nazi = pure, irredeemable, inhuman evil" slammed into its face for 70 years straight and naturally believes it. Even shit like zombies and robots are becoming a moral grey zone, thanks to modern debate about consciousness/death and endless (often-sympathetic) twists on every genre, but nazis remain a perfect and easy target no one will object to, kind of like fat people being easy comedic targets anywhere outside tumblr.

For Jews, it's because the holocaust, real or not, makes them absurd amounts of money both directly and indirectly. Directly through holocaust museums and whinging about "muh gassed lampshade grandpa", which earns them infinite pity shekels in donations and city funding for their precious museums. Indirectly through everyone equal-parts pitying them well beyond reason, and reasonably fearing them with their retardedly-privileged position in society that lets them not only get away with murder but coordinate it easily and/or legalize it if they need to.

Non-Jews can shoot something in the face guiltlessly, and Jews can pity it up all night and day for endless money stolen out of gullible fucks' open wallets. Everybody wins, but Jews especially.

The funny thing is, even if you believe every last ridiculous claim about the Nazis, from typical wartime cruelty/moral ambiguity common to history all the way down to the holo-coaster and the masturbation death machines claimed to exist by "survivors", they're not even close to the worst people to ever fight a war. Taking a group you don't like during war and systematically killing them off is a practice humans have been doing remorselessly ever since we were all small-time tribals, it was neither a new practice at the time nor one that hadn't been done with even worse cruelty. The most you could claim about Hitler doing so is that he did it on a bigger scale than most, which even then could mean jack-shit if you factor in that there were simply more people to off compared to any other past conflicts.

Hell, Hitler wasn't even the high-score holder among genocide enthusiasts if all that's claimed about him is true, since Stalin offed more people of every kind before he died according to official statistics, and the various Communist dictators of Asia made Stalin look like the typical pimple-faced school shooter in terms of raw carnage.

And again, all of the above is assuming the often-outlandish shit claimed about the Nazis by Jews is correct, accurate and truthful. Considering some of the downright-stupid shit I've seen claimed, from the ubiquitous "muh ovens" claim that would've been scientifically-impossible then and still is now even with modern crematory ovens, to the aforementioned masturbation machines and railcart leading into an open flame pit, to gas chambers "sealed" with shoddy wooden doors that wouldn't keep a starved man inside let alone gases, it seems to be almost-entirely hilarious exaggeration to maximize pity-bucks from gullible morons. Not like the average Jew of today isn't known for exaggerating shit and being a penny-pincher, either, so it's in-character for them.

All-in-all, the whole thing reeks of a typical international conflict just like any other, except Jews with friends are the ones got their toes stepped on, and both took it personally and saw an enormous cash scam opportunity.

Was snowball fighting okay though? Defend this

It'd be better for everyone if they were banned outright. Think of all the hours you've wasted on video games that could have been spent strengthening your country and your race

Nice meme.

Germany had a free market, the only time the government would step in is if businesses were violating worker's rights, polluting, or deliberately screwing over citizens for a little more shekels.

Germany participated in world trade too you fucking idiot. What do you think the Jewish boycott of Germany was?

It's degenerate and promotes homosexuality.

You seem to misunderstand. We must ban ALL vidya and anime. Anything that could corrupt our youth in any way must be purged.

Kek.

but not every single book was burned

lol what a bunch of shit.

They de-centralized banking, making the hyper inflation that had the entire world in a depression caused by endless debt literally evaporate, that's what made their economy explode, debtless currency controlled by the state and not a private central bank (that's also why the war started, weather it's personal or national, bankers get pissy if they don't get asked for money at interest).

Yeah, like energy, railways, roadways, and the such? Newsflash but a bunch of industries are nationalized here in the US and many other countries.

Because things like Coca-Cola and shit weren't sold at all in Germany. :^)

Holy shit, you're telling me war eats up valuable resources that need to be rationed? I never knew that! I wonder if the US did shit like that too.

Kek, you drones will defend anything that pedo loser did.

If you go killing and burning people for no reason other than some shitty ideology or religion - you are not good guys.

Communist are often portrayed as bad. As for nazis i would say its because ita the last just war, with a more black/white ditchonomy. Nazis were evil and there wasn't much else to it, after that like in vietnam things got more gray.

Alright hold the fuck up, we just found a major stability problem right there.

Let's assume that the Nazi party in some alternate reality was not run by a bunch of incompetent, decadent, egotistical assholes with plans they didn't think through. (protip that's all politicians are)

Let's assume that the first generation of politicians goes smoothly. (protip that never happens) If you don't join their party and support them, you have no defenses against hoodlums, who will join the Nazi party just to gain firearms, and other parties (and balances of power or opposing checks and balances for that matter) are essentially moot and dead. The mere fact that they wanted to monopolize politics is what became their downfall.

I know a lot of the stormfags have a boner for that outmoded regime, but they are blind if they cannot see the fuckery that will happen in the ages to come under that heavily swiss-cheesed system.

If someone is monopolizing power, they're pretty much fucking over everyone to get it.

"Join us and you get guns!" "don't and you're defenceless" That's FUCKING COERCION.

DO YOU HONESTLY THINK THAT THE NAZI PARTY DID ANYTHING RIGHT?

This is seriously retarded, It's like the Berniefags and Hillaryfags or pretty much any over-devoted loonie these days, they gloss over important flaws and refuse to acknowledge that their side is the asshole who is exceedingly flawed and has a hell of a lot of room for corruption.

Power in the hands of the few is cancer on the rest of society, this is Geo-politics 101.

Naziland was essentially North Korea, even the tech was behind because their leaders are insane and stupid and sure as fuck don't know how to delegate or handle PR.

Adolf got elected because he appealed to a problem at the time, but in the process he fucked over his whole country for generations and fucked up so bad in PR and regular government shit that he ended up making the whole of his country into cucks even today.

For someone who tells others to read more your terrible judge of reliable sources.

;^)

You aren't even touching on the fact that there was no fucking Way Germany would have won ww2.
Russia was stronger
America would have never let Germany take their buddy countries
Italy did fuck all
It was literally Germany vs the rest of Europe and there is no way the rest of Europe would allow them to expand.

I love it when Holla Forumsedditors show how new they are.

Nice argument.

Also

You're so fucking stupid it hurts.

Who would you vote for Holla Forums?

Yeah, that too as well.

The Nazis were stupid ass motherfuckers, falling into the same traps as SJWs do today.

They came on too strong when they were already pretty weak in the first place. They yelled and demanded, and killed those who disagreed with them. They tried to control the populace, they failed because a government is only so big.

They didn't even rush for the nuke to end the war via fear of casualties, they spent all that shit on cartoon doomsday weapons that ended up being glorified riot control that couldn't be produced in great enough quantities.

What is collective bargaining.

ebin

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not enough natsoc imagery in this thread

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Feel free to reread my post friend. I understand if you may have reading comprehension difficulties. :^)

Okay.

I was just pointing out that the media portrays it as worse then it is, which incidentally Germany after the Reich lost doubled down on and made guns to be outright banned. Removing firearms of a populace that is hostile to you is a smart move to secure power, I would do it and the US did it when they won and I would too after I won.

Letting your known enemies and potential enemies remain armed in occupied land while you're at direct war with everybody is an idiotic move. Period.

You make it sound as if the other countries would have left Germany alone as if they weren't directly responsible for putting Germany into a corner.

Centralized power gets shit done, but at a price and price is often the freedom of others.

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I once wrote a book for little children about WWII
Since all the characters were talking animals everyone mistook Rommel for Churchill

My nigga

I did. You are defending the state making decisions for local businesses in a direct manner.

Godwin's Law was never about Nazis being the ultimate evil no matter what, it was always about how a conversation would always end up to be about Hitler given enough time.

No I'm not. You were spewing bullshit and I told you you were wrong, and are now proceeding to sperg out.

You know, most people aren't ok with mass killings and banning of ideas.
Sure you might because you want a shit hugbox like Holla Forums has but most people aren't ok with that shit.

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Because free democracy and universal suffrage work so well right faggot?

So the most prosperous economy in recent history was just like a communist hoodlum, haha

Yeah lol, that's why americans naturalized all the scientists and thinkers they could, because they were fucking stooopid and somehow PR has jack fuck to do with technological progress.

also, It was literally Germany vs the rest of Europe, so yeah big fucking surprise they lost dipshit.

Oh wait, you retarded niggers think germany started the war.
HAHAHAHA HOW CAN YOU FUCKING ASSWIPES EVEN BREATH?

Notice the destroyed buildings in the background? This image shows victims of allied bombings, not "the Holocaust"

This and many other topics are covered in this documentary.

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This is also a good watch that analyzes the gas chambers and the supposed method that the Germans used to kill the Jews and highlights just how retarded and impossible it all is.

Not a Holla Forumsack or anything (at least for the last year) but that would always happen with me when a conversation last more than 10 minutes
And i don't even bring the subject nor do i expand it, but i always thought it happened because i had subjects and personality that could railroad the conversation near it
With close fiiends i do joke about genocide and jews being humanity's number 1 enemy, but they return with jokes like negroes being the first on the list and so on

I mean come on, it's 2016, we should break taboos forced on us already i mean geez

Ssssh, OP, you're being a bad goy.

Stick around in the bar when you're undercover, they properly humanized the natsocs.

Pick one you mindless drone.

wew

Oy vey you filthy antisemite, how dare you question the 66 trillion!

Good goy.

I have a ww2 german uniform fetish. Anime grills look really cute on them.

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It's the easiest

Which country do you live in, user?

Here's your (you)

reported, hid

you fucking cunts already have your own board.

I didn't, The Nazis just sped that shit up and gave them a good excuse to war.

If you don't want to have an intelligent discussion because I've "triggered" you like a tumblrette, then it's clear that intelligence and logic is not your strong-suit.

Instead of dismissiveness, which helps you none, rebuke me with truth and make me look the fool. I am challenging your worldview, defend it or discard it for a worldview that is held together with steel and facts, not tacks and lies.

I'm sorry, which regime was dead, again?

Short term war economy tends to boost a lot of shit, America's economy was boosted greatly due to war. It was no genius of theirs that their economy was high, it was conflict did that.

And guess who won the war with the atom bomb as a result?

Where in hell is that implied, faggot?

EVERY TIME

Also in case you're too stupid, I'm saying the reason that Germany was decimated was because of the loss of PR control, which gave every country an excuse to either abandon them or dogpile them, which is what they wanted.

No matter what the fuck the Nazi's did, you can't say that they could have won any war with any of their tactics or infrastructure. And as a result, Germany is currently being pressured and shamed into buying into the immigrant scam, which is part of a bigger plan involving the manipulation of the global economy via bigwigs.

so do you. kill yourself undershit.
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Stay triggered nigger B^)

I'll guess It's Hitler and the holocaust. It's weird how Stalin and Mao killed more people yet the holocaust was worse than whatever those two did together

Also what's with the fucking Holla Forumsfags in the thread? This isn't even about video games anymore.

I swear, I see loss in there.

But user, please think of all the trannies, gays and Jews being murdered by the millions! Much worse than all the lives communism and other messianic rampages that have occurred in our timeline over the past 70 years.

Hollywood is exceedingly jewish.

This isn't racism, it's fact.

Actually, Germany's economy was thriving long before the war. Read a goddamn book you pseudo-intellectual millennial.

These days, the people who try to make the audience hate the nazis end up making them look like the good guys
Just look at American history x
Same with wolfenstein. they tell you to hate them then give you no reason to

This pops up because Germany took out huge loans under the NSDAP. What people don't realize is that the bank was nationalized and the country didn't owe money to any IMF, but to itself. Infrastructure projects would pay back dividends to the state rather than paying back money to a bank with interest.

He wanted to restore Romanov rule. That Russia would then have been subsidiary to Germany is a natural factor of their territory's lack of resources.

Okeedoke. Whatever you what to believe.

Those are pornography and commie propaganda put out by Jewish bookpresses

So yes, 100% justified.

Holy fucking shit, you're retarded.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahah

Russia would have fallen in spring 1943 if it hadn't been for illegal US materiel support.

that was arguably the point of american history x though.

You will burn on Earth before you burn in Hell, kike.

Soviets won because Hitler went full retard and decided to fight a war on two fronts.

Stick to videogames, Holla Forums. You obviously don't have enough time to learn about what actually happened with time outside of VN's and playing normalfag games you hate, so why voice your opinion?

Looking at these retards

It must be nice to believe you live in a world where things "just happen", people in history are just bad-guy/good-guy caricatures, and wars happen because worl dombinashun :-DDD

And then they get into a war, their economy doesn't last.

Short term tactics, no long term plans.

DO YOU WANT TO STOP BEING AN IDIOT?

The Nazis are fucking dead, just like the USSR, for the same fucking reasons. You cannot seriously be this deluded.

They couldn't even last for a FUCKING WAR, their country relations were all fucked up which is what fucking cornered them in the first place because they were unapologetic assholes and you CANNOT sustain your economy without cooperation from other countries.

Their plans were short term, their strategies were short term, their everything was built to fucking fail and the same systems in a different place would fucking fail the same way.

Jesus-motherfuck, you're no different then those crazy communism cucks.

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And? They created a sustainable, highly functioning economy out of less than scraps

Every country takes out loans and keeps them up for ever, the difference is most countries take those loans from jewish controlled (see: Rothschild) international banks (when Germany stopped this subservience to the jewish financial clans, an example needed to be made of them)

not too normal people
their point was "wow hate is baggage don't hate anyone neo-nazis are wrong" while the nazis did nothing wrong (literally) and niggers kept killing people for no reason

I wonder if the creator of this game has considered suicide after seeing this

It will never steer you wrong.

Kinda ironic, considering you Holla Forumstards who say this shit with a straight face yet say that all jews, blacks, taco-citizens and whatever else they feel like today deserves to hit up the day of the rope or whatever the fuck name you've got for genocide now.

You're projecting here, bud.

Actually Bhutan, Finland, Norway, Croatia, Switzerland and Iceland are a few countries that operate a National Socialist state that started as part of Hitler's political movement.

They changed the names after the war, but not the policies. Hitler's economic and social policies have been tried and tested and proven to result in some of the (if not THE) highest quality of life for citizens

He lost the war champ, get used to it. I never said he was bad or good but he definitely didn't won.

Huh, you're telling me a nation the size of Texas didn't have the economy to fight all the world powers who sought to stop another one from rising at the same time? Huh, no way! That doesn't make them in the wrong, though.

The long term plan was peace you fucking imbecile. Gesture after gesture was rejected by Britain, France, Poland, and everyone else. Germany was meant to starve and die, not come back.

You know, if you read the book I posted an image of before, you'd know that was bullshit. But that's wrongthink, and you don't want to do that :^)

Yeah a nation the size of a large state in the US wasn't able to defeat the largest countries in the world in a war of foreign aggression. No shit.

True.

I can't believe you are just walking around telling lies like this.

It wasn't from lack of trying, though.

It worked until the world powers (and their banker masters) decided to drop their masks and enter open conflict to crush them. Even with people entering embargo and blockading them, Germany still had a robust economy WITHOUT a war industry, and the one they did have was far smaller than France's, Britain's, and anyone else's.

Let me guess, you're a libertarian? As long as you have the right to hang a gun you'll never use up on your wall and beat off to anime porn while playing video games all day, you're happy right? Muh freedoms!!!!!!!!!!

Yeah, all the guys on your block jumped on you and stomped your face into the curb after you tried to get on their good side. That makes YOU the bad guy, right? I mean, you lost!

Projecting what? Nice buzzword, but like I expected, little to no substance in what you posted. Typical Holla Forums teen.

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What is this supposed to be? A cunning rebuttal? A scathing taunt? A clever retort? A comment on a cultural group?

I honestly can't figure this one out, it reads like it was copy-pasted from several sources and put together will-nilly chunk by chunk

the kikes sabotaged the concrete

Obviously with huge ass compromises considering they aren't world superpowers and those countries rely on other countries who make the big bucks. Captialists can't functions without anyone to trade, and socialists can't function without other countries to sell shit to and so on and so on. Some countries just CAN'T work out of these systems because there's a fuckin' balance that needs to be maintained.

For one, they don't antagonize people, but they aren't major centers of trade or business.

There's a pro and con for every system and those countries are working off a a base system that has been changed to actually work.

You cannot use these countries to prove that the Nazies did it right, because they changed that system.

Every country practices socialism in a degree, but the nazies took it WAY the fuck too far and they were frankly idiots in how they handled pretty much everything.

You know, because they're fucking gone.

Makes you wonder why they went all asshole and alienated pretty much everybody and antagonized countries that were too big to sit on.

That's because they were acted like assholes and people wanted nothing of what they were selling. Like I said, horrible PR.

No thanks Holla Forumstard, go read your manifesto in your fucked up shrine. Writers are untrustworthy because they can twist teh facts for their own benefit and pretty much all of those books are opinion pieces in lit form. If you can't teach, preach.

Do I detect a hint of mad?

god i'm bored. You're mad as hell boyo.

You don't even TRY to refute my points, you're just kind of resigned despite the that I thought your original intention was to defend the Nazi system.

If it doesn't work, then why the fuck are you defending it?

Stay mad, stormfag.

Well it is a wall of text rant, I see no points relevant to me to address beyond gun control which I did.

Arguments about our world views? What world view did I claim to have in this post Your basically assuming what my world view is and trying to debate me over a world view that I don't have.

You know, for someone who said something like
it's ironic that every single thing you said there was either ad hominem, a non-sequitor, or just repeating the same thing you said before (which was usually "b-but they were MEAN, my kosher history class told me so!").

Really, really sad. It's just incredible that people like you are vocal enough to voice an opinion like that, but don't have the knowledge to back it up and then you bash the people that do, see

Like I said, it must be nice to have a mindset where everyone in history is a good guy or bad guy, just like your video games! :-DDD

Why read? Why try to learn more about what you have opinions on? Just play Wolfenstein and learn your WW2 history from that!

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Also, on a related note, you immediately discredited the book without even looking into what it was about, but if you did, you'd know that after every single claim and historical event brought up, it has a citation in the back of the book for it. A good portion of the book is just citations and sources. But then again, you're not after the truth, you just rail against things you don't like. Pathetic.

Here's the kicker though, it's a socialist world

That's probably why it was designed to be so appealing because of those shit eating communist bastards that have infested every studio

Much like how bernie sanders is portrayed as some loving everyman but all of his support groups have the same professionally printed signs, up until a week ago when people pointed it out
SUBVERT SUBVERT

Bhutan is self-sustaining and has just switched to %100 local, %100 organic food

Iceland has proven itself self-sustainable when they kicked the bankers out and lost contact with the outside world for a few weeks (they did the same thing as Germany but aren't rich or hosting many jews so no one cared)

There are many ways other than economic and social incompetence for someone to become "gone", such being overwhelmed militarily from several enemy forces (you know, like Rome, Hellenistic Greece, the Byzantines, the Anglo-saxons, The British basically all over the world, etc; etc;

For example, China's economic and political systems only failed as a result of direct British military intervention (and then Communist military intervention)

The fact is, many states work exactly the same way as NatSoc Germany did, and they are the currently leading states in terms of quality of life

And finally, NatSoc Germany was not isolationist. They traded directly with citizens of neighboring countries because the jewry-run governments put embargoes on the bankless Germany

If they did that then there wouldn't be revolutions. Fuck off with these shit bait threads, Holla Forums

Yeah it's almost like he was really not looking for that war>>9591092
Man of the year in Times twice m8.
The jewish press laid fucking hard on him for obvious reasons.

Same thing happened to GamerGate really.

You're an idiot who honestly thinks that a single party holding power over voters and people via gun-hostage bullshit (join or no guns to defend yourself, your shop, your business, etc)

That is political coerceon and you're deluded enough to think that's not how the current tyrants want gun control to go down. THEY WANT THE GUNS AS A BARGAINING CHIP WITH THE PEOPLE. You're a retard. The Nazies were heavily gun control because of this stance. "Join us or get robbed and killed in the street. with no method of defence against those who did join"

This is the RESULT of successful gun control.

You meekly resigned yourself to my points and are now resorting to strawman bullshit because you're mad that you did. You lost the argument, now go back to your fucking containment board and stay there.

I'm generally against genocide. SJWs want to do it to men, so fuck them and fuck the other side too that wants to do it to various people.

Even if you don't believe in that and are joking, you invite those that mean it and thus your community is full of retard edgelords.

Take your book and shove it. You really expect me to read that shit, you have no idea what's in it anyway, you fucking brought it up to get me to throw it out because it's a distraction from your argument.

You do this as a way to discredit your detractors.

If you pull that shit on stage and expect people to take you seriously, you're fucking retarded.

ARGUE HERE. Don't present an entire book as your argument, YOU brought it up, YOU use info in it and the said citiations to prove me wrong HERE.

The burden is on you. I'm not reading your fucking book for you, YOU use it and passages from it to disprove what i'm saying.

I'm not going on a wild goose chase for you, nigger.

And he failed. Maybe he should have worked against them in the BACKGROUND instead of making his position know immediately.

Hitler did EVERYTHING wrong. That's the joke.

I think this issue is simple, at least for me. Nazis wanna subjugate people and so do commies, so both can sucks dick. A nazi state would be hell for a shitload of innocent people and i have no interest in living in such a society.

That's quite wrong though, gun control was the laxest it has ever been in germany under the Nazis.

Are you aware he was running against a full on Soviet invasion and the British wanted war to begin with from the start?

You keep implying that the WW was a one sided ordeal, it wasn't.

And yet

That ISN'T gun control? They literally CONTROL THE FUCKING GUNS

Holy shit stop, you're actually making me laugh.

And he lost, he and teh Nazies lost favor and had the disadvantage when SHIT WENT DOWN.

How is this hard to understand? It was entirely the country's fault.

Assuming you were apart of the nazi party.

Stop moving the goalposts.

Maybe you niggers should stop being so fucking offended every time the Nazis are portrayed as bad guys and actually play the fucking video games.

Honestly the fact he managed to make such a long stand against pretty much every single super power in the world that were thrown at him by the globalist bankers it's fucking amazing really.
Specially so once you consider Germany was pretty much bankrupt when he came to power.

They don't play video games.

They complain about them when they get tumblrtriggered. Just like SJWs.

Don't say that user. You will double trigger them.

funny coming from the guy who got so triggered he can't even spell right anymore

So yes, you automatically assumed what my political leanings are based on one post. you read far too much into it and now you have this imagined view of what I am and believe. I don't particularly care if it's "right" or "wrong", I just like pointing out things like Nazi policies being over exaggerated in it's execution when the preceding government and the one afterwards was worse in their policies like gun control. of course registration is a type of screening and that's exactly what they used it for. Fact remains is that the media portrays it as being an outright gun ban, when it was a shrewd and pragmatic policy to undermine the power of insurgents in their occupied territory.

I knew you butthurt fags would quickly post that strawman comic.

nice trips

It's incredible, it's like you live in a world of your own and then come back to this one to bring your stories of how things happened in your mind just moments ago.

I'm hoping that you would be the type that would keep an open mind and attempt to better himself. I hope I'm not wrong.

But user, I own it. Pic related.

That is an incredibly specific and neurotic scenario. It's funny to see literal conspiritard-tier shit from someone who probably makes fun of things like that.

The problem is that over the course of 25 years, I can't condense every little thing France, Britain, the Sovient Union, Poland, all all the smaller nation-states of Europe did that contributed to the first and second war with Germany and why they did it. You have such little knowledge of the period in the first place that nothing I can say will give you a full picture without me having to go along many different tangents just to explain the other things that were brought up in the first explanation.

You seem incredibly angry and motivated over something that you seem to be a "neutral" about. You should calm down do something quiet, like…reading a book.

I knew you butthurt faggots would start projecting your asspain

How about a little tact and reason instead of trying to be the "hero", only to see yourself become the villain in the end? Geo-politics is a long fucking game, you play short term and you're out with the wind.

I got 4 hours of sleep, had to stay up to not fuck up my schedule and I am drunk.

The fact that you can't keep up with a drunk guy is hilarious.

You're too drunk to notice you're making an ass out of yourself

Opinions discarded.

I just use the magic mat for my mouse. It's 10 bucks and it's better than any mousepad I've ever owned.

nice meme btw :-D

Best card game out there right after cards against humanity

Go back to sleep with your degeneracy, Ayn Rand.

I bet the pages are blank. They may as well be at this point. Go chase your own goose, stormfag.

I don't make asses, I see them. And I can see a really huge ass. You would be popular in teh rap community.

They just made this thread to fling shit at people user. Almost every fucking post in this thread has nothing to do with the game, the reason THIS thread was created.

It must be nice living in that bubble of yours where any criticism towards Nazi Germany or Hitler is deflected as Jewish propaganda

Shit-flinging can be fun if you know how to dodge.

Check the OP, the fact he isn't a (1) this once is rather shocking.

So pathetic.

History belongs to the victor, and who was on the winning side of WW2?

Why WOULDN'T there be Jewish/Allied/Soviet propaganda against Germany? Answer me that. Are you willing to say that there is absolutely no mistruths told about them?

Yeah the one where Hitler is a super villain who wanted to gas everyone who wasn't blonde and blue eyed is pretty nice.
Gotta love those jews pushing muslims into all of Europe after they made USA cause a massive crisis in the middle east getting rid of all the competition.

But yeah Hitler was entirely wrong about the jewish globalist.

Why are you afraid to use that book to take me down?

Is it because you know it can't?

Then why didja bring it up.

You called me a pseudo-intellectual before, But I sure as hell didn't hang pretentious literature over YOUR head, mister Scheiße.

Kek

What's it like to live in a world where you believe all information, no matter how complex a topic, can be reduced to a shitpost, and that the best person to decide who's winning an argument based on "logic" which you are involved in is in fact you?

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There are 54 pages dedicated to just Germany's interactions with neighboring states. Would you like me to copy/paste them for you? Are you really THAT fucking autistic?

Holla Forums does it all the time while sober.

You reek of Protestantism.

(checked)

That's not the question to ask here.

The question here is, are you autistic enough to do it?

Do it, faggot.

A lot of people act like Wolfenstein:TNO is subversive kike propaganda, but in reality I think the real answer is it's just edgy shit. The Nazi theme is only there because it's the only kind of scenario where you can have the player (and player character) kill humans in absolutely horrific ways without it being in any way controversial.

Just look at all the cutscenes or that "most gruesome deaths" compilation video on youtube. It's always something only some edgy teen would find cool. BJ stabs some guy in the brain with a knife. Robot rips some old woman's jaw off. Enemy soldiers get blown apart by gunfire in a ridiculous, pornographic fashion. Usually each of these incidents is followed by some "fuck you" one-liner, for added 2brutal4u factor. But it's all okay, because nazis.

TNO isn't just a propaganda poster trying to convince you of something, it's just the result of a culture that likes sickening snuff violence yet saves this urge solely for a limited few politically-acceptable targets, like some angsty teenager trying to keep his rage inside. And for that matter, I wouldn't be shocked to find out the game's writers are the kind of people who maimed and killed small animals as children.

It's easy to see who won this. SJWfags BTFO

I know how this goes, I've dealt with leftists and "neutrals" with a suspicious amount of drive to discredit anything that isn't pozzed out the ass. I'll sit down and type out an essay picking apart every single thing you've brought up with sources to spare, and then you'll either disappear from the thread or just shitpost. Like said, the geopolitical events of over thirty years cannot be condensed into a single shitpost. You're just setting up arbitrary guidelines that are impossible to fulfill so you can walk away feeling like you won.

Or because the Wolfienstien games were about nazis for years.

She was a bitch but the nazis were worse. They were killing innocents left and right for no reason.

So what did you learn? Protip, that trying to make people go on wild goose chases for your chosen literature and trying to make them read a whole fucking book is pointless unless you're willing to actually follow up and use the passages of said book to prove your arguments.

In other words, Holding literature over everyone's head gets you nowhere.

You have wasted the last ten posts over this, you idiot.

Either post your book's tits or GTFO, or actually argue.

any new games where i can kill hittler?

Hearts of Iron IV?

It's amazing how TNO proves that most of Holla Forums are newfags who don't care about vidya.
They never raged about the many other games where you killed nazis.

Wolfenstein's out.

It's kinda eeeeehhhh.

Also Sniper Elite V2's DLC is a snipe hitler mission.

It's summer, after all.

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explains the faggot posting

i would like it to be more personal like in

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Of course pol doesnt care about vidya? A lot would ban vidya if they could,

No, aside from wolfenstain. Killing nazis is kind of past its prime in vidya, now its all about space combat and shit. Look at call of duty.

Cliff notes.

Germany had a peaceful (read: little to no war spending) economy for six years before war broke out. They almost 100% adhered to Versailles treaty rules on what their military could be, The only time they broke their word was when France (and other nations, but mostly France) would bolster their military beyond their allotted amount, so Germany would bring their requests to bolster their own military to the League of Nations (but get denied anyways), so they would become criminalized just for getting enough soldiers to man their border.

Jews were almost a non-issue until the war, the real issue was Communists and 80% or more of the Jews in Germany were registered commies.

Britain and France (ESPECIALLY France) engineered conflict with Germany by putting it in corners where its only choices were those that could be spun by the international media to show Germany in a bad light. They did this because they didn't want another mainland power in Europe and dealing with each other was enough.

This is all found in the first two chapters of the book. You could figure half of this out by reading it for fifteen minutes.

Thanks, I was looking for this picture.

Considering the motherfucker wouldn't even post evidence or argue outside of "hey look at my book it totally invalidates your argument" despite not posting anything outside of the cover.

Burden of proof. It's called backing your own argument up with evidence. If you read the book, you're the expert on it, so use that to disprove me. I'm not reading your book, because you've already done that.

So argue and disprove me. Can't or won't? Then argument disregarded.

That's how it has ALWAYS worked.

who keeps making these pathetic strawmen?

Hell even killing muslims is out of fashion already.
The press were pushing so we would get white supremacists as the main focus again but it seems like it doesn't stick too well since there are barely any cases of the KKK lynching people in the last 50 years.

leddit

Passages and/or citations.

If you expect me to LISTEN and BELIEVE you, then you're no better then an SJW.

fug, who the hell is next? latinos?

PDF: s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?file_id=28971259792578512288

On the issue of Germany's so-call isolationism.
page 34
On February 10, 1933, Hitler discussed his economic program at a mass meeting in Berlin for the
first time as chancellor. Telling the audience, “We have no faith in foreign help, in assistance from
outside our own nation"1, the Führer opined that Germany had no friends beyond her own borders.
World War I had ended in 1918 when the German Reich and Austria-Hungary surrendered, and harsh
terms imposed by the Allies, despite U.S. President Woodrow Wilson’s promise of an equitable
settlement, had left the Reich more or less on a solitary course.
Allied delegates opened the peace conference in Versailles, France, in January 1919. They
demanded that Germany accept blame for the war and compensate the victors for damages. This
enabled them to initiate reparations requirements that reduced the Germans to virtual bondage. To
extort the Reich’s signature onto the treaty, Britain’s Royal Navy maintained a blockade of food
imports destined for Germany. The blockade had been in force since early in the war. Over 750,000
German civilians, mainly children and the elderly, perished from malnourishment.2
Despite Germany’s capitulation, the British continued to block food deliveries until the summer of
1919. On March 3 of that year, the English cabinet minister Winston Churchill told the House of
Commons, “We are holding all our means of coercion in full operation or in immediate readiness for
use. We are enforcing the blockade with vigor. We have strong armies ready to advance at the
shortest notice. Germany is very near starvation. The evidence I have received from the officers sent
by the War Office all over Germany shows first of all, the great privations which the German people
are suffering, and secondly, the great danger of a collapse of the entire structure of German social and
national life under the pressure of hunger and malnutrition. Now is therefore the moment to settle."3
Allied leaders bluntly told German delegates at Versailles to accept the treaty or face a military
invasion and extension of the blockade. The Germans signed on June 28, 1919.

Horseshoe theory is so strong with Holla Forums that it hasn't been funny since 9/11

Yuri was right, there's no hope for indoctrinated retards.

Only once Trump gets elected and all vidya are

No fucking stupid conspiratard, its always been in cycles. In the 90s on film it was all about the commies and the russians, in vidya it was nazis the middle eastern now its all about space. Its all marketing.

On rearmament
Starting on page 62

Promoting programs to alleviate unemployment, rebuild the economy and socially unify the nation,
Hitler devoted far less attention to strengthening national defense. Provisions of the Versailles treaty
had reduced the German army to a 100,000-man force comprising professional soldiers with long
enlistments. It possessed no armor, heavy artillery or chemical weapons. The treaty forbade Germany
to maintain an air force. Following the London Ultimatum, the Allies banned production of motorized
airplanes within the Reich. This drove Germany’s leading aeronautics firms Junkers, Dornier and
Heinkel to continue aircraft development in Sweden, Switzerland and Russia. After World War I, the
Allies had required the Reich’s navy to steam its modern surface fleet to a British port. Remaining
with the navy, reduced to just 15,000 sailors, were six obsolete ships of the line, six small cruisers,
twelve destroyers and twelve torpedo boats. There were no submarines.
In June 1919, French Prime Minister Georges Clemenceau had stated, “German disarmament
represents the first step toward multilateral reduction and limitation of arms…. After Germany has
shown the way, the Allied and associated powers will follow the same path in complete security." 108
Nonetheless, during the 1920s, France, Britain, the United States, Italy, Japan and the USSR had
resumed a partial arms race, focusing on the expansion of naval and air forces. This breach of faith
offered Germany the moral foundation to rearm in defiance of the treaty.
Thanks to the small size and limited weaponry of the German army, the country possessed virtually
no armaments industry in 1933. The Germans had to conduct secret experimental development of
armored vehicles, artillery and military aircraft, since it was still illegal. Though engineers re-tooled
some factories for arms production, Hitler introduced proposals for international armaments
reduction during the first two years in office. During 1933 and 1934, the Reich devoted less than four
percent of the budget to defense. This was not even half the percentage spent by France, Japan and the
USSR, which already maintained large arsenals.109
Germany was in a position to implement a massive rearmament program, had Hitler wanted it, by
1936. Factories were operating at nearly full capacity. The Reich possessed a modern, efficient
machine tool industry. The USA and Germany controlled 70 percent of the international export market
of this commodity, with minimal corresponding import. In fact, in 1938 Germany had 1.3 million
machine tools in industry, twice the number of England’s.110 This circumstance, however, proved of
little value to Germany’s armed forces because Hitler did not assign priority to the manufacture of
military hardware.
Industry in Germany focused on housing construction, improving working conditions for labor,
public works, consumer goods, and KdF automobile and ship-building programs. These projects
consumed large quantities of materials such as metals, rubber and timber, and employed a significant
percentage of skilled labor. Qualified tradesmen, engineers and technicians were unavailable for the
arms industry. One German historian concluded, “In the six-and-a-half years until the outbreak of the
war, the German economy achieved enormous success. But the result of these huge endeavors
remained relatively small for the armed forces, in the face of demands from the civilian sector."111
One of Germany’s more famous public works, the Autobahn, was without strategic value, contrary
to popular assumption. The general staff concluded that the expressway system would be too easy for
enemy airmen to spot from high altitude in wartime, and motorized units using the autobahn, if strafed,
would have no place to take cover.112 Few pre-war military formations were motorized anyway, and
the army relied mainly on rail transport. In contrast to his senior army commanders, Freiherr von
Fritsch and Ludwig Beck, Hitler fully recognized the tactical value of armor in future warfare.
However, as to the expansion of this service branch, the attention he customarily devoted to parallel
civil projects was again lacking. In the opinion of a renowned military analyst, Sir Basil Liddell-
Hart, “He ultimately paid the penalty for not promoting it more emphatically."113
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You can continue for yourself from here, I'll move on to the next points.

And what does this prove or disprove?

Nice spin on the truth, asswipe. You bring it up, you have to prove it. That has not changed. You come in here, raging lunatics spewing fallacy after fallacy, unfocused and blind.

If you want to be listened to, being a raging faggot is not the way.

Be polite, be logical. Politeness optional.

No, the press actually was passing around documents trying to focus more on white supremacists when all this BLM shit started blowing up, I don't have the picture right now but someone dug the document during GamerGate.

Yeah, that's how it seems to work for most "people", using the term as loosely as possible.

If I wanted to argue this topic, I'd first probably spend a while working my way through the literature for and against, and fact checking as much as possible, as that is the way to most closely approach truth, being that treating someone who's read a book as an expert on the topic or even the book itself is completely retarded, and especially since truth isn't actually altered by how good or bad an argument for it is, or how many of these are made.

This medium cannot be used to synthesize knowledge, and acting otherwise is similarly idiotic. It excels at sharing extant information. So, if you were interested in the topic and wanted to be convinced either way, you'd seek out the books of your own accord, then look at any rebuttals, etc, and figure out a clear picture, but again with most "people", it's not actually about truth, it's about feeling good about yourself for being able to wield wiki argument tactics.

The grievance that causes me to even post in this thread is the personal experience with trying to explain simple shit to mongoloids who think they know better, in academia and professionally. They're always mouthbreathers, and they always have the approach of "bring the knowledge to me", though I'm still not sure of the causality. They can't be taught, and the silver lining is that their mentality always catches up to them, whether it's failing a test, being unable to complete a project, or otherwise some hopeless ineptitude, though yet another tragedy of their existence is that they never seem to realize it.

I was cutting more paragraphs out of the PDF when I saw your post and realized that you're not actually reading this.

You fucking asked for spoonfeeding yet when I'm actually doing it, it's not enough. The information is literally RIGHT THERE. user, it's RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOUR FUCKING FACE. You asked for this! Why are you still acting like it's not there? Use your fucking eyes and head, read it and contemplate, jesus fucking christ.

How lazy can people get?

I'm asking you what your points are. This argument is a rambling mess. Do you know what you are trying to prove?

I can't read your mind.

Humor me.

WHAT are you trying to prove?

Actually, one more because it's fairly important. Not even many Holla Forumslacks know how much France fucked everything up for Germany, itself, and the rest of Europe by chimping out and being greedy.

France
Bordering France, the Saar is a 741-square mile German mining region just south of Luxembourg.
During the 1919 peace conference, France sought to annex the Saar. Clemenceau falsely claimed that
the province’s ethnic French colony numbered 150,000. He protested that a post-war German
administration of the Saar would rob the inhabitants of the opportunity “to enjoy the freedom the
French government wants to give them."28 Wilson and Lloyd George, however, arranged for the
region to come under League of Nations jurisdiction for 15 years. The population could then vote
whether the Saar should return to Germany, join France, or maintain status quo.
From 1920 to 1935, the five-member Saar Commission governed the region. French became the
official language in public schools. The German miners opted for their own ethnic schools. German
societies supported their children’s education through traveling libraries, delivering German language
study books to even remote villages. The French arrested Hermann Röchling, a publisher and sponsor
of the program.29 Violating the Versailles treaty, Paris transferred 5,000 soldiers to the Saar. They
expelled most of the German civil servants and replaced them with French officials. The French
assumed control of the coal industry.
Political analysts - German and French alike - predicted that the overwhelming majority of voters
would cast for reunion with Germany in the 1935 plebiscite. Paris encouraged the population to vote
for status quo. This would deprive Hitler of a strategic buffer dividing the two powers. France
recruited German Communists, former trade union officials, and other opponents of the Hitler
administration who had migrated to the Saar in 1933 to campaign for status quo; their propaganda
vehemently criticized National Socialism.
The media campaign marred Franco-German relations. Hitler expressed his concern in a wellpublicized
interview on November 24, 1934, with the chairman of the Union of French Front Fighters,
Jean Goy: “The French press draws the conclusion that we Germans are preparing a coup. It’s pure
insanity to think that Germany would want to disrupt the coming plebiscite by resorting to force. We
will accept the results of the plebiscite no matter how it turns out.” Hitler added that he had once
suggested to Barthou that the pair draft a joint protocol to regulate “eventual difficulties” that might
surface, “but never received an answer."30
Hitler proposed cancelling the plebiscite in favor of a more cordial settlement: The Saar would
return to Germany, and French industry would retain control of its coal-rich natural resources. This
was a magnanimous gesture, considering that Hitler expected to carry the vote: Hundreds of thousands
of Saar residents had crossed into Germany in special trains and motor columns to attend his
campaign speech in Koblenz the previous August. Paris rejected the proposal. Supervised by the
League of Nations, the plebiscite took place on January 13, 1935. The result was a landslide, with
90.8 percent of the voters casting for union with Germany, 8.8 percent favoring status quo, and just
2,124 out of 526,857 eligible voters opting for France.

I warned you all, but they never listened.
I got run over by a truck for this.
Someone should had warned me to listen to my own advice.

Actually I'm an agnostic.

Yes of course goy. Whites need cultural enrichment.

For what?

You fucks are fucking incoherant, so it's nearly impossible to tell what you WANT.

You seen the BLM protest interviews? All that interviewing and not a single person there knows what they're there for.

This is eerily similar. What is your aim? What are you trying to prove?

i dont think any devs or publisher will make those type of games, because faggots will cry bloody murder and even if they did, they will be shit anyway.

YOU asked for information and quotes from the book itself concerning the issues that came up.

I AM GIVING YOU THE RAW INFORMATION HERE SO YOU MAY READ IT AND FORMULATE YOUR OWN OPINION

YOU COMPLAINED ABOUT "LISTEN AND BELIEVE"

YOU ARE GETTING "READ AND THINK"

THAT IS ALL THAT IS HAPPENING. USE YOUR LOGIC AND SKILLS TO ACCESS THIS INFORMATION AND PONDER IT.

It's really not that hard at all. Is this an elaborate form of moving the goalposts? You asked for citations and lines from the book, now they are here and you're asking me to dilute the points and give you the shorthand LIKE I WAS BEFORE?

I was literally JUST doing this for you before you asked for the sources. Now you have the sources. What the fuck are you even doing?

It's already complete, thanks for your collaborations.

That's not how it works user, if only it was that easy.

You had an argument in your first post.

Do an experiment for me, don't look up at your first post, but try to remember the exact wording, then look up.

You brought up the book, not to encourage me to read it, but to use it as evidence to refute me.

Why the sudden shift? We have IDs here, we can check your posts instantly.

Who are you quoting? No, for real. Do you have dyslexia? Are you even understanding the words on your screen?

so places with more people have more crime?

Do you?

Yeah, that's what I thought. We're done here. Wish I wouldn't have wasted my time one someone who wasn't here to actually talk in facts.

So you're finally going back to Holla Forums?

Good.

Hope you're tired of arguing here, because if you pop up again here and try to insert your politics into vidya again, this is what you're going to get.

So fucking STAY in Holla Forums. retard.

:^)

In a way, yes.
It's pretty much (population density)^brown minorities

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Somehow the Mexicans have moved beyond that wall of gun murders and invaded New York to the point that it might as well be titled New New Mexico.

you should compare it with a gun fun allowed map

You are literally retarded, not to mention the fact that what you just posted is eerily similar to pic related.

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Why are you still here?

You didn't convince anyone, I got you to argue for forever while I was using this to stay awake, and you basically just wasted an afternoon.

Why do you keep doing this shit to yourself, man? I know it's not the first time based on how you act.

Besides, while you were here shitting it up, everyone else got to actually talk about vidya and I had my entertainment for the evening.

And I'm now just coming off of my drunkness.

Holy shit, dude, you need to take control of your life.

I thought New York was mostly jews and puerto ricans.
There's Mexicans too now?

user please.

Stay ignorant murika

Mock me all you want, I don't give a fuck about what some people think about me on the internet.

Cause that's pretty pathetic. The fact that you think that mockery is actually hurting other people on the internet shows that you are actually HURT emotionally by what some user says about you.

And that's pretty gay, user.

Let me try again.

Oh, also, SJWs are triggered by what people say on the net.

Are you a fucking SJW bitch or something?

I'm afraid pretending to be an internet badass doesn't remove the retarded user.

Did I get shadowbanned or something?

You're only showing what you think is hurtful when you're mocking someone, user.

So you're affected by what some user fuck says about you on the net.

Did you get it yet? You literally an SJW at this point.

No user, it's just another template threads, everyone is shit flinging anyway.

There so many possibilities, media being liberal renders them highly improbable

Oh right the "empowerment" thing, fascinating.

Says the man who LITERALLY practices doublethink.

You walked right into it, honestly.

You are the last person who should be talking about doublethink, doublethinker.

yeah because allowing the 1918 german revolution again would be a great idea "I mean seriously guys communism has never been tried before".

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Revolution_of_1918–19

generally allowing any regimes that failed to do the same shit that failed is a bad idea.

If you don't want a revolution, don't be a dick to your citizens. If a revolution is inevitable under your rule, step the fuck down.

no that isnt the right thing to do because by standing down and allowing communists to take over your country it results mass famine and death.

You should watch this video by yuri bezmenov to understand why communism should never be implemented but also that communist revolutionaries and sympathizers should not be allowed certain rights.

another yuri vid

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I have bad news m8, but those are called civil wars, revolutions have instigators and private funding of people interested in overthrowing a system that does not benefit them, the only thing people do in those is turning into cannon fodder, it has nothing to do with what they want despite many being convinced that it does.

The reason why you had to be a Natsoc party member to own guns is because when you didn't, a bunch of lying commie fucks started to kill a lot of people to pressure the system into collapse.
I really don't know why you think you are making a valid argument against anything, I don't see any country today handing out guns to illegals or radicals/terrorist just because everyone should have guns while stepping on their soil, at least not under any legislation created to ensure that country's survival.