TIL Hitler, Trotsky, Stalin, Freud, Tito and Ferdinand all lived in Vienna in 1913

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Wait, I think I know the punchline.

i already knew that
this thread does not need to exist

What if Vienna had been destroyed by an asteroid in 1913

The question is did they know each other ? And, if there was any communication ?

Also, at that time in vienna there was publication of newspaper that influenced some of opinions of adolf hitler.

He was encouraged and supported mainly by his "paternal friend," the writer Dietrich Eckart, to whom he erected a remarkable monument at the end of Mein Kampf. Eckart was a link to Hitler's Vienna years in that he was a member of the Thule Society, which in turn was connected with the List Society and List's secret order HAO. The early artificial image of Hitler as Germany's future leader who as a modern-day Messiah faced the public at the age of thirty can probably also be attributed to Eckart. Hitler described his decision dramatically in Mein Kampf: when he was in the military hospital of Pasewalk in Pomerania, almost blind from a gas injury, the news of the November revolution and Emperor William's II abdication arrived. His immediate response was to blame "the Jew": There is no making pacts with Jews; there can only be the hard: either — or. I, for my part, decided to go into politics.

porges.net/JewsInVienna/5WasYounghitlerAntiSemite.html

One shall remember that the swastika- and fascist movements are basically offspring of Ostara

Ostara or Ostara, Briefbücherei der Blonden und Mannesrechtler ("Ostara, newsletter of the blonde and masculists") was a German nationalist magazine founded in 1905 by the occultist Lanz von Liebenfels in Vienna, Austria, and in which he published anti-semitic and völkisch theories.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ostara_(magazine)

Key regulars included: Peter Altenberg, Theodor Herzl, Alfred Adler,[2] Egon Friedell, Hugo von Hofmannsthal, Anton Kuh, Adolf Loos, Leo Perutz, Alfred Polgar and Leon Trotsky. In January 1913 alone, Josip Broz Tito, Sigmund Freud, Adolf Hitler, Vladimir Lenin, and Trotsky (the latter two being regulars) were patrons of the establishment.

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Theodor Herzl - was an Austro-Hungarian journalist, playwright, political activist, and writer. He was one of the fathers of modern political Zionism. Herzl formed the World Zionist Organization and promoted Jewish migration to Palestine in an effort to form a Jewish state (Israel).

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Basically Vienna is based and all good and awful poltical thought is gestated there

"The Viennese intellectual community was actually quite small and everyone knew each other and… that provided for exchanges across cultural frontiers."

This, he adds, would favour political dissidents and those on the run.

"You didn't have a tremendously powerful central state. It was perhaps a little bit sloppy. If you wanted to find a place to hide out in Europe where you could meet lots of other interesting people then Vienna would be a good place to do it."

Freud's favourite haunt, the Cafe Landtmann, still stands on the Ring, the renowned boulevard which surrounds the city's historic Innere Stadt.

Trotsky and Hitler frequented Cafe Central, just a few minutes' stroll away, where cakes, newspapers, chess and, above all, talk, were the patrons' passions.

"Part of what made the cafes so important was that 'everyone' went," says MacNamee. "So there was a cross-fertilisation across disciplines and interests, in fact boundaries that later became so rigid in western thought were very fluid."

Lenin and Trotsky played chess here, thus the Central was back then called the "chess academy"
Tbh. Herzl only went there as it was closer to the Welt editorial office than any other place with a decent grosse brauner.

Crazy to think so many of the influential socialists were in one place…

Also I can literally picture Hitler trying to push through to based Lenin's chess table to request an authgraph, but never gets thorugh the crowd of Socialist fanboys.

Wien 1925 - 1935

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Vienna, in the late 1920s and early 1930s, Wien

youtube.com/watch?v=OHG4xz95F28

This is a place where ideas started.

For 3 reich…isreal…CCCP….

and how to implement them (propaganda / freud )

The Café Central was opened in 1860, and in the late nineteenth century it became a key meeting place of the Viennese intellectual scene. A frequent visitor was Stefan Zweig who wrote the "Schachnovelle", the most famous book in world literature with chess as theme. Other key regulars included Vladimir Lenin (front) and Leon Trotsky.

Leon Trotsky, who spent much of his time during World War I playing chess in Vienna’s Cafe Central, was regarded by his acquiantances as simple, harmless, even slightly pathetic. During his exile Trotsky was known under his real name Bronstein. In March 1917, the Austrian foreign minister was notified by an excited subordinate that a revolution had broken out in Russia. “Russia is not a land where revolutions break out,” the minister skeptically snorted. “Besides, who on earth would make a revolution in Russia? Perhaps Herr Bronstein from the Cafe Central?”


Until 1938 the café was called the "Chess school" (Die Schachhochschule) because of the presence of many chess players. Café Central was closed at the end of WW2, after being bombed. Originally the café occupied the building's glass-covered inner courtyard.

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ok so three communists and a nazi walk into a bar….

Ecks dee

let me correct you really quick

ok so three socialist and a socialist walk into a bar….

same system…implemented in different country’s and ideas are from vienna before WW1

(3 reich, israel, CCCP).

It all could be created with ease (freud also in vienna)

Shit, Hitler and Trotsky probably scuffled into each other at least once. This place's existence is kind of a mind fuck.

damn can you imagine trotsky arguing with a shopkeep about whether or not two bags of flour are the same

hitler in the back thinking "this fucking Jew"

asking the right questions