minding the register while finishing up your degree doesn't count. unemployed in your mom's basement because you'd rather spend your time on more productive activities than $8/hr at walmart doesn't count either, although is admirable.
i need to know Holla Forums isn't merely a circlejerk for edgy teens and would-be academics
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Cozy retail hellhole for me.
i am getting my masters and have not had a job since highschool.
i would trade my left nut to work on a farmers commune or factory some work that actually means something to further the cause of socialism but as a floridfag with a conscious the only jobs here are non-existant/pure cancer
My family own part of a pharmaceuticals corporation and so I get an allowance from that.
I am a contracted painter and abraisive blaster at a chocolate factory.
Some months I have to find other work, which is tough.
I fix pool equipment.
Until you get a real mass movement going, pretty much any set of beliefs outside of mainstream opinion is going to be mostly edgy teens.
femanon here, what kind of training do you need to do this?
unemployed for 4 months, 99% of the jobs i apply o never call me back. Every interview ive had has gone well, still no job. Im not seriously considering robing people just to have money to eat or possibly begging. I just want food.
now*
I guess. I'm impressed with the dedication to reading the seminal leftists texts here but I think it's also impt to avoid solipsism.
just make sure it's walmart or some other piece of shit corporation which is lobbying to cut the last pathetic remnants of our social safety net. or, possibly worse, burdening it into obselescence!
Right place at the right time. I didn't get a painter's apprenticeship, since it was mainly the blasting side of things I signed up for.
Are you in the USA? I got my Australian white card, confined spaces, and heights tickets. Also a good idea to get your fork license.
It's dirty, noisy, and boring. I didn't sign up for the chocolate side of things, but that's where I spend most of my time.
This thread is already painting an illuminating picture.
Mold/asbestos removal and remediation in Philadelphia but we do the whole Delaware Valley too.
Seriously if anyone is in the area we also do general contracting tho our speciality is mold and asbestos, it's called 3D Environmental North
That's a real shame, since I have a mouldy wall that needs removing, but I'm in a different hemisphere.
:^(
Where out of curiosity?
i'm thinking about starting a revolutionary front in florida, if you are a floridafag and would like to have a spot in our people's army i can pay you 10 dollars an hour and the hope of being able to advance socialism by overthrowing our government to make america a real workers paradise
I work the customer service desk in a big name supermarket. Still considered "part time" even though I work 40+ hours a week. Been there over a year.
no i'm american and it's a clusterfuck here, srs.
grill jobs are really boring but then they expect you to pretend to be happy about it. some of us aren't cut out for that sort of thing.
even when i was doing restaurant work i could never seem to convince anyone to let me work in the back.
jesus christ can you get rid of rick scott already
Are you sure? To be a police officer you must score 99% on the exam, and even then there's no guarantee.
yeah police academies are real centers of excellence lol abcnews.go.com
I worked in a warehouse until the oil economy went tits up
Now I'm scraping by on 12 hour a week part time jobs
I'm working in a brake line factory loading hoses into machines for $9 an hour.
Out of a job right now and currently looking for new work. I was doing kitchen work, but I'm also in school.
Here something interesting
Where i live it is illegal for a citizen to be a blue collar worker only second class immigrants with no citizenship are allowed to take these jobs.
You can have a farm tho they allow you to work it yourself
I suspect the gov wants to kill any hope of communist revolution tbh
I'm a handyman.
That being said, I don't like this fetishization of the working class your doing. If you're doing some cheap labor job when you have the opportunity to do something better, you are a fucking retard.
Go get a higher education, and all that. If you have the ability to become more than a wagecuck please don't squander that opportunity, ok?
where is this? UK?
I bet you never encountered simone weil
nice teeth nigga
USA
KSA
ops
Uh yes they do you snob. Solidarity between employed and unemployed is one of the most important things in a global neoliberal economy characterized by a permanent reserve army of unemployed.
Proletarian aristocracy here.
sage
proletariat = those who have nothing to sell but their workforce
proletaria =/= masculine manchild fantasy worker with a screwdriver in a detroit car factory
host/waiter
part of the labor aristocracy obviously
Yes it does.
Yes it does
But I guess if you don't need people with shitty job security, and you don't need the unemployed, you can do that whole revolution deal on your own, huh? Yeah? Sound good?
For pools you need training to work on specific equipment and some knowledge of electrical stuff. You may need a license as well, depending where you live. Having a high tolerance for heat and random cuts helps as well.
wageslaving away, 9hour shifts, as proletarian as it gets:
metall processing
also university dropout
I am training to be a mason and I love my job so far. I love my boss and getting to work 4 stories in the air. 10/10 would recommend.
Work at Mcdonalds with two libertarians. One is my manager.
LOLOLOL
not fetishization, just getting to know my fellow lefties. i think it's one thing to circlejerk about the liberation of the working class and another to experience it firsthand and therefore know intimately the barriers to organization & enlightenment.
weird thing to say since pretty much they'll let just anyone attend uni; what it comes down to is whether or not you think you're likely to pay off that debt.
construction & manufacturing both have a significant skills gap, and you don't need "higher education" to do those, just a few years of relevant training.
Unemployed, last thing I did for money was digging holes for fenceposts. That count?
I operate forklift and powered pallet mover at a warehouse. Only good thing about my job is sometime I can hide out in trailers for a few minutes, especially when I have to climb over load to get to the back to take inventory.
yes you're a working class hero
I work 40 hours a week in a warehouse, but when the christmas shopping season picks up it'll be closer to 50 or 60 hours
this pisses me off so much
Not really funny to say that to someone who's desperate dude
How often do you fantasise about killing them?
I'm a graduate but i work in a cafe 40 hours a week does that count?
Also my pappy owns a business but I have worked for my own cash since I was 17, what am I?
software dev here, rant incoming
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programmers are among some of the most class-cucked workers in existence, it's so goddamn sad to watch. I think even the police are less class-cucked than programmers, and their job is literally "keep poor people out of the bourgeoisie's neighborhoods"
many of them have these delusions of grandeur solely because they get paid 40k right out of college: they think they're all some genius in the top 10% of programmers and they're going to make their own startup one day, and they will gladly work 50-60 hour weeks to finish up projects with no overtime or anything. if you suggest unionizing, they will laugh at you because its obviously a joke, right? most programmer-oriented news sites and social media reinforce these ideas, even leddit, and most programmers happily slurp that shit up
but the worst part is that a lot of them are all sassy behind their boss' backs and laugh about it like being snarky is some rebellious action. "another meeting? what a waste of time. i could be actually working instead!"
and then more jobs get outsourced to India, and the ones who didn't get fired are like "yeah i knew i wasn't getting fired. they won't get rid of me because i'm very important and skilled"
Given that a lot of programmers are sad and lonely people, when they are actualy appreciated and thought of as important and being of some value to somebody, they jump at that chance.
Of course such action is highly short-sighted, seeing that in socialism or communism, they would not have to sell their souls and work long hours to justify their wage to the employer. They could be working less time developing artificial intelligence or automation and spend the rest of the time developing themselves as actual human beings and not just a machine that turns coffee into code.
Most of them probably can imagine an artificial intelligence capable of doing their jobs, but they know this would lead to them getting fired.
How to convey the idea that socialism and planned economy would lead to the programmers having much more fulfilling lives? And that some of them might actually become a real human beings, as opposed to mere machines that turns coffee into code.
afraid you're shit outta luck my man
Nigga your teeth are whiter then Holla Forums
IMO Linux is the best way. The Free Software movement shows how well gift economies can work, although for some unfathomable reason the movement attracts a lot of right-libertarians too, like Eric Raymond. I don't really get it, giving your source code away freely for the good of the community seems like a very socialistic idea, but somehow lolbertarians and anclaps are able to make free market metaphors out of it.
The problem is that Linux has lower gaming support than Windows, so not many younger devs have moved towards it yet.
full time software dev, no degree, work at home doing salesforce development
Working at a warehouse now usually do 10 to 12 hours a day
fug
Electrician. Kinda balls, maybe about to be kicked out since I sprained my rotator cuff in a car accident.
Farmer. 60+ hours. Weeks. All 7 days. No holidays except bad weather. 100 acre family plot, 3rd generation. Ending next year because we can only farm according the rules set by the great minds of agrarian labor. Lawyers and unelected regulators with the inevitable combination that the good times we had with capitalism would eventually end as we become cannibalized by it. Don't know how to feel. Sentimental because it's a family legacy but it's built in a system where those joys are killed by how impersonal and selfish the reward is. I do hope in a pipe dream to one day acquire cheaper land and enjoy the mutual pride and comraderie of working on common goals, overcoming hardships, enjoying the companionship of equals. Maybe you'll be there to shake my hand
anyone who isn't in the 1% is working class you fucking shill
I work retail. I have a job lined up in the public sector though.
I don't think I'll ever employ others, doesn't appeal to me in any way.
I work as a temp at a library while finishing up my degree in LIS, after that I'll probably study Literary Science. The idea that you can't be working class if you have a degree is pretty toxic tbh, especially if you live in a country where higher education is free. I mean, my father didn't even finish high school and his life is fucking awful, I'm not going to let that happen to me and I'm not going to let my kids grow up the way I did
op is a retard, you should have asked "who here proletariat"
we're all getting our surplus value exploited at whatever level
When are you getting out?
Student while working as junior web developper to cover college costs
kek, you perfectly distilled the attitude and what's wrong with it.
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Dear OP
You are an idiot in two ways.
First, Capitalism has utterly destroyed the working class. Even with degrees, most people of the current generation are stuck working low wage retail jobs.
Second, you, a person who claims to be a leftist are here telling a whole generation of people stuck in lower than working class wage slavery that they don't really count.
What the fuck is your damage?
Why is that, comrade?
holy shit dude learn to read
The wall or my country? I'm in Australia and my wall is in an upstairs bedroom.
Yeah it's a shame. Women just straight off the bat don't get considered for a lot of work until even their most useless male counterparts are seen first. That sort of makes women not bother, and the circle continues.
The tickets I mentioned are pretty expensive if you can't find someone to help pay for it. I'm not sure what things are like where you are, but you can get a government employment agency to cover costs here, if you get an employer to tell them that you require the tickets to become employed.
Where? I grew up with my parents as dairy farmers but we sold up when I was ten. Milk production here is absolute dog shite, with farmers getting next to nothing and all being owned by supermarkets anyway.
I am literally an upper-middle class white 20-something who lives with my parents, has uni paid for me, has pretty much everything paid for me, and when I do work I end up spending all my money on weed, booze, and strippers.
pretty much this.
i actually just got into an electrical workers' union so i'm really set but the things i did between graduating high school and these were pretty shit and unnecessarily so.
i don't think i'd even have been considered except that i aced their entrance exam. they nearly didn't let me take it my lackluster performance in various service industry jobs typically impresses no one.
Floridafag here, are you really a Floridafag? if so we should have a leftist book club.
tbh, having worked in some dirty "blue collar" freight jobs that require manual labour etc. I'm more sympathetic to this attitude in hiring than I would have been as a fresh faced progressive kid.
Aside from a couple of Maori sisters who were bigger and rougher than most of the blokes, the women I worked with were, as a rule, unreliable. Balked at working out in the sun/rain, didn't like to do the tedious, boring physical work (ie. most of it). What usually happened was that she'd up being routed into doing paperwork while the men picked up the slack until she inevitably quit for a nice secretary job (or similar) after a few months. Went through probably half a dozen hires over a couple of years before the director decided her experiment in giving preference to female applicants wasn't working out.
Not saying it's the same everywhere or that this isn't just a symptom of the cycle you're talking about, but that was my experience and I get mostly similar stories from my mates in construction and auto mechanics.
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yeah i really worry about sucking, but the alternative but the alternative is working under bitchy controlling succubi doing even more boring shit but for less
i'd never sign up for a manual labor job because my guess is i'd suck at it but i tend to get stuck with that work at the various shops and restaurants who seem willing to hire me. except that i do it at a pay cut. :((
i dunno joining a skilled trade seems like a nobrainer.
Do it if you can.
what?
White teeth are a good thing, britbong
Fuck off Veronica.
At my factory, women aren't expected to do any pallet stacking ie lifting boxes and placing them on a pallet when the stacking machine is under maintenance which is often.
We may have to stack 500kg pallets with boxes of 25kg in layers of 100kg and shifts are 12 hours long with an hour break broken up through the day and it feels unfair that they bother to hire women if they aren't capable of sharing the work load.
You really do feel like beaten up shit after 12 hours of doing that, thankfully it's not every shift, I think I do 1 shift like that every 2 weeks.
Gulag yourself.
What am I if I joined the military to avoid student loans so I can pay off the debts my parents owe that would have gone unpaid after even my death if I did take out student loans?
Working class, but I think dick measuring is stupid.
To be frank, I think it's more of a cultural or attitude thing than anything else.
Women are obviously perfectly capable of manual labour. Women have been doing manual labour for the whole of human history. They may not always have the raw strength or stamina of men but that's just life. As far as my own anecdote went - nobody was expecting these women to be lifting the 40kg stacks of energy drinks we were sometimes stuck with (most of the blokes struggled with that shit) but it was more that there seemed to be this aversion to even getting involved in the manual work at all. I got the impression they expected to just be able to drive the trucks and somebody else would load/unload the freight for them or that it'd be like those women you see at road works where the job is just to stand there in high-vis gear with the STOP/GO sign directing traffic while the men dig the holes.
If you're not a dainty princess afraid to get dirty or be physically sore at the end of the day, you'll do fine.
In the process of working for a non-profit organization for mentally disabled individuals. Just waiting for the background check to done.
Ever since working for a non-profit for disabled adults, I've loved it ever since. Its decent work, decent benefits, decent pay and you don't feel like you're playing into the hands of bourgeoisie. Being a non-profit, all money is pretty much given by the state and budgeted among the organization meaning a profit isn't generated. I don't own the means of production because there are no means of production. good shit
I started working from 19, there was a gap of 6 months of umployment for me and I'm soon to be 22.
1) programming internship
2) another programming internship
3) work a nighshift at a warehouse
4) programming job
Dentist. Who elso work in health related fields?
the health sector is like a mafia
chemotherapist = selling molecules that will kill the patient at the price of their life's earnings
general practitioner = using a software to look for correlations, or not using one and chit-chat with your daily hypochondriac
dentistry today = having an oligopoly on a proprietary software to straighten teeth
I grew cynical to the realities of actually producing value in today's economy.
It occurs that some health PhDs use their bigger brains to conspire with states and insurances for monopolies.
I'm pretty sure we will reach the stage of communism once we hack into Invisalign and the like.
But "not today", "let me fetch another thousand", heh?
Debts are spook.