Pro-refugee arguments?

Because borders are spooks and as human beings they are entitled to move away from their own war torn shithole countries to build new lives for themselves and their families in a country that isn't a failed state.

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showing solidarity with workers from other countries that are affected by war is essential

Literally not an argument.

Majority of people don't want to leave their country. Some are spooked by patriotism, but more than that - you leave behind family and friends, familar places, your culture, etc etc
Capitalism destroys lives and causes people to flee. The least that war mongering countries can do is give aslyum.

Completely idiotic argumentation.
a) If you are against people owning land, such as land where your house is built on, then as a stupid leftist, you should be forced to house homeless people, thieves, and anyone else.
If owning a house is so "immoral" to you, then die on the streets for all I care.
I wouldn't give up owning a house because of stupid, moralistic leftists.
If no one owns any land, then how the fuck do people even have homes when you always have to defend yourself living on a piece of land?
That would be a living nightmare, always having to justify to stupid leftists why I should live in my house, why you shouldn't barge into my home, steal my goods.

b) Increasing refugees will only fuel more right wing anti immigration populism.
Increasing refugees will reduce wages for workers and increase refugees living like parasites off of locals hard earned money.

c) Refugees would rather collect welfare, and bitch about their host country then work and build a life there. I love it when idiotic refugees are so ungrateful for being allowed into a prosperous western country, then bitch about "oppression".
I would deport these idiots into Syria, women, children, elderly, their fathers.

So it's Joe six pac's fault that his government has been bombing their home?
You can't blame the citizens when they have no power over what their government does.
You seem desperate to blame western people for everything.

And I thought this board couldn't be more autistic.
So borders "aren't real, we will hold hands like stupid leftist children and just share our homes with strangers and live like prehistoric savages".

If you despise people owning homes, you deserve to die on the streets.
People should have their homes, a private space to live, and others have no right to invade their homes because of "the community wants to invade your home". I'm so fucking tired of leftists that want to eliminate home ownership, that everyone will live in some commune, where no one can ever own anything, we all have to share everything.
Then I hear more moralizing bullshit about "You owe the community your house", even though most of you fucking idiots didn't build society.
Society has been built by people long dead, people just fill tiny roles.
My home isn't for some disgusting homeless person to sleep in, or some bum stealing my kitchen supplies or food.

Leftypol seems to have a teenage edgelord "owning a house is evil and racist, you must share everything with filthy homeless people" mentality to them. And according to Leftypol, there are no cultural differences that would warrant actual borders, you will all hold hands and pretend to live in some communist/anarchist hippie commune.
Ugh, disgusting.
I'd rather support the bourgeoise then support that level of leftist stupidity.

user I'm sorry but your head is haunted. If somebody wants to take your house and live in it and they can do it then it's their right. It's your right if you can defend your house. People can live in a phalanstery or be hermits, the only thing that matters is whether they can actually manage to do it.

IMPERIALISM WITH HUMANFACES

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No, But Ahmed still blames Joe for it and not even trying to stop the bombings, Similarly to how Joe blames Ahmed for not choosing to stay and fight. In the end the average citizen of both places are angry and looking for somebody to blame because a small rich elite is trying to make profit.
There is a difference between personal property as in the house you live in so that you can survive and private property the house that your landlord owns despite him living in another state and have never even stepped foot inside of. No one should be kicked out of a house that they are using. You have no idea of what you're talking about and are just making stupid strawmen based on your poor understanding of concepts.

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So your argument is if I can kill the owner of someone else's home, then I magically get the 'right' to acquire it?
My head is "haunted" because I think people have the right to own a house?
I wonder why your head is so fucked up, that you think homes should always be defended like it's a wartime Somalia, where people are hermits.

I love it when leftists back peddle their insane ideas with "But but, we aren't really against you having a home, we just change the word 'private' to 'personal' property".
Joe has no power to change his government.
Well Ahmed is an economic migrant, and Joe can understand that his country has better opportunities for Ahmed. If Ahmed refuses to work, then it's his fault.

In terms of the landlord point, I wasn't defending landlords, or people making money off the desperation of others. I'm defending people having the right to own their house, also without using others to pay for utilities/profiting off them not wanting to be homeless.

If anything, you are bitter and emotional over the fact that I criticize leftists.
This is why you will never become an international movement. You get emotional over people questioning your ideas and plans.

I'd recommend you to read a book before you embarrass yourself even further, I'd also recommend you to stop projecting so much.

your head is haunted

you need to go back

Sure, there are none. It's manufactured by liberals to seem to look more humanist without fixing the source of the problem, dividing the working class and subvert of what's left of social security.

Most of the refugees are actually migrants and have no legal basis for staying in Europe. They come from very traditional and archaic societies that hate the values of Socialism (unless it's their own IdPol) because they already perceive the culturally liberal West as "leftist" and are very likely to destroy any hope for a socialist revolution that naturally requires high amounts of education. "Borders are spooks" is mostly spout by people who don't really understood Stirner and got hijacked by the kumbaya attitude that demoted most leftist clubs into IdPol torture chambers that are simply being reactive towards the alt-right but don't actually have a fleshed put standpoint on modern issues on their own.

You may argue that borders are culturally are social construct that has to be overcome (I obviously don't agree with it entirely because I'm a NazBol) but even then you will realize that borders are practical instruments for keeping the integrity of a society, spooks or not, they define the territory of a type of law, a language, a form of government and an hermeneutic economic system which is the very foundation of a society.>>957554

yes, since they freely elected the government doing the bombing, and fund it with tax revenue.

if you don't want refugees, stop enabling and supporting the actions and conditions that create them.

That would be anarchism. Holla Forums is a salad bowl leftist ideology and you only saw one leftist view and think the entire board euqlas that.

Less disgusting then your mom

literally classcuck :^)

Muke, stfu.

You don't know shit

How fitting you are mentally still trapped in the 30's. Leftypol is mostly teenage edgelords that praised a black killer because he killed a few cops.
I'm a "classcuck" because I refuse to endorse and support stupid leftist positions?
The Left has become a collection of meme ideologies, promoted by social rejects, incoherent morons.

Oops.

Stay mad, tho.

By dividing the proletariat into "refugees" and "non-refugees" you're only helping their divide-and-conquer strategy succeed.
They are humans, and I seek to help humans wherever possible.

This is right though. The refugee problem is a symptom of systematic flaws in society. If you really hate foreign proles crossing fictional borders so much, then I suggest fixing the problems which create refugees in the first place.

Triggered as fuck

They are victims of Western imperialism. First-worlders are obligated to allow third-worlders to come to their countries and build a better life, because imperialism is the only reason there is such a difference in quality of life in the first place. Even if it decreases wages in the first world, causes a security risk, or whatever, the first world needs to deal with it, because the harm inflicted on the third world by imperialism to appease the first world proletariat and stave off the revolution has been far worse. They should feel lucky that the refugees don't want revenge.

Have you even lurked here

This is actually right

Jason pls go

Ye buddy we can't even have a small sized communist movement in the west, how do you expect to "just fix the conditions".

Anyone believes this shit? ANYONE? Shuffle people around the globe and suddenly communist behavior appears because muh witchcraft says it does?

This is kinda like you're proposing some sort of mathusian efect on class consciousness, once a population reaches exploitative critical mass due to so many of people being exploited in the same geogaphical boundaries, then a surge of leftist agitation is sure to take a hold of people's minds and turn everyone into porky butcher.

Do you even realize where most refugees come from? They were exploited for much less back home im sure.

2/10 Apply yourself

Refugees are being taken in for humanitarian reasons, and no other defense is acceptable. If you want to defend this position you must do it on humanitarian grounds.

Nobody should be thankful for be allowed to exist by an oppressive state, born in the country or not.

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Hey I have a way better question than OP. Are we being raided by liberals or Holla Forumsacks? Because every anti-immigration argument I've been seeing lately has also been an anti-communism in general argument.

And stupid baseless conjecture based off nothing but petty fears caused by lies.

Dismantling the capitalist system, am I right?

your spooks are showing, Holla Forums

Ahhh, fuggit

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Jesus, this board really is turning into tumblr. Y'all are making the porkies pretty damn happy right now.

The open border anarchists are always assblasted when people disagree with their idealism.

Maybe you shouldn't be such a pseudo leftist piece of shit

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Name one thing he did wrong.

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