What do you guys think of SWERF'n'TERFS?
They seem to be one of the few groups opposing liberal feminist identity politics and they haven't fallen for cultural relativism meme vis. 'women in Islam'. They actually seem interest in women's liberation and not women's liberalisation.
Should the revolution be free of porn?
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ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
link.springer.com
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Are TERFS an SWERFS not to feminism as NazBol is to leftism?
No.
lol @ all this
I actually meet TERFs on a regular basis because for some reason they're huge in my university, and many young homosexual women always feel compelled to join them in order to fit in.
They're some of the craziest people I've seen. The shit they write on social media is jaw-dropping. They remind me of Islamic black nationalists who seem right at first when they repeat common-sense remarks against Inequality in a slightly more radical tone, but lose you completely when their theories about Caesar being black and white people being aliens start coming up. It's the same shit about them: you take them seriously until one of them talks about transexuals being a male invention to infiltrate and destroy feminist movements.
Because they hate men instead of blacks?
I said liberal identity politics, not all idpol. Transgenderism is worth critiquing anyway
Never heard that theory before, is it mainstream?
terfs the best, libfems a shit
Everything actually wrong with feminism rolled up into one autistic ham planet conglomeration and you think it's the only good version of feminism?
You a retardo.
terfs are stupid
they're very destructive, i don't think the intent is there tho.
i get frustrated when "you sound like a TERF" is actually an internet insult.
and yeah sex workers are oppressed by patriarchy you're a tool if you're offended by this.
no they're not. the trans agenda is regressive and possibly even hostile to the goals of women. even the gays hate them, the brave ones anyhow.
change.org
Name one way in which they're destructive to feminism and TERFs aren't twice as destructive as they are.
How generous of you to give them the benefit of doubt
So stop sounding like one
jesus christ go back to tumblr
wew lad, so brave standing up to those oppressive trannies.
good to know you speak on behalf of "the gays"
I am personally far too libertine to support TERF'S and SWERFS in good faith.
datalounge used to have a thread trashing them every other day; i haven't visited in a while; maybe it's "rosebuds or coinslots" now.
what a world we live in
In my experience SWERFS are middle class cunts who are triggered by sex workers fucking rather than the material conditions the push them into sex work. Suppose there's something of value there about the exploitive nature of sex work, but it lacks a class anaylsis or recognising it's eploitive because it's work under a capitalist system and instead goes on about bullshit.
TERFS are butthurt lesbian hambeasts so disgusting most would rather fuck a tranny, so theyre pissed at lack of pussy and blame the dickgirls for stealing it.
Both are shit and should get a ticket to the gulag.
TERFs are disgusting essentialists who use reactionary arguments to support their fetishization of what it means to be men and women.
Also this.
is it surprising? they pretty much adopt every right wing talking point
they're the worst kind
The Morning Star paper here in Bongistan announced that it had a TERF position a few weeks back.
LOLLLLL trannies are the ultimate essentialists.
there are some legitimate second-wave criticisms against mutilating yourself in order to change genders, and not just that it's incredibly stupid.
andrea dworkin, who i assume falls under this label, had some really good criticisms of the dehumanization of the pornography business. i think you have to take her opinions with a grain of salt as she was raped three times and probably never had a loving sexual relationship; all the same i think she makes some good points.
if anything women are pissed that they're being forced to compete with "women" who didn't have to endure the humiliating experience of growing up female.
trannies are the biggest nazis ever, you can't disagree with them without being labelled a bigot.
Fuck swerfs, fuck terfs
They're liberal feminists so blinded by anti-male ideology that they can't even recognize that a man could have problems
Absolutely the worst kind of feminists around
But only if they are womyn
Male sex workers are oppressive sinners :^)
SWERFs and TERFs are reactionary, puritan, liberal, bigoted, essentialist cunts. Everything wrong about feminism tbqh. The only good feminists are sex-positive, socialist class based feminists.
also,
ayyy lmao
>tfw no socialist fem qt to read books with and assfuck while she has a ballgag on
Not my comrade
kys OP
people like you are literally the reason i'm gay
i'm still waiting to hear why criticising pornography and male invasion of female safe spaces is "shitty".
i think it's really shitty that crappy, hateful porn & entitled dudes who want both the muh privileges of men along with the protections afforded to women exist.
fuck you guys.
TERFs and SWERFs need to be pinned down and violently sodomized by well hung transwomen prostitutes.
Trans organizations need to organize to violently confront and shut down TERFs and TERF institutions like antifa does to racists.
To hell with liberal "tolerance" for these pathetic frustrated bigots.
For a pirate you sound like a pussy
Good.
Would make good fap material though
terfs:
terfs @ transpeople:
they are just whiny cunts
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and, no, it is not possible to change your sex; gender dysphoria may correlate to reality but undergoing painful surgeries for questionable results is really fucking crazy.
So what's it like being cucked by a tranny?
Thinking their chances of getting laid will go up if they stop the trannies is pretty crazy too.
Fuck off, bucko.
"I only have a basic knowledge of the disorder and will lecture you like I'm the expert."
Please kill yourself. It makes transpeople much happier, less prone to suicide, and able to live largely normal lives. Your opinion on the results is meaningless, and a surgery being painful is not justification for not getting it, dumbass.
Solid refutation. Very good.
I agree, user.
I dunno. I mean sometimes I wonder if transgenderism reinforces the concept of gender rather than removing it by saying you can have a manly or a womanly feel (essentially meaning that you feel like you are more in line with one set of gender stereotypes than another). That being said, I don't think antagonizing trans people is in any way a solution to that problem.
As for SWERFs I really don't see the point of hating on sex workers. I'd imagine it's a tough job and they would need a feminist movement more than most women.
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wew you're quite delusional
what's it like being this delusional? i don't want your dick; i have a high quality vibrator and i know where to put it too.
you're suicidal because you're mentally ill, you are incapable of accepting reality. you can never fully change your sex.
i don't give a shit what you do with your own body but keep your woman hater ass out of my homeless shelters and prisons.
holy shit when did that happen? That's awful
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armchair psychologists aren't usually as fussy as you are being. guess you mustve been raped or something lol
do you guys have any idea how frequently this happens to women in abusive relationships and doesn't even make the news? at least this one had a fighting chance.
What's it like knowing your crush is being fucked by a tranny while you sit home with your vibrator?
Because when I'm about to make love, I always check my partner's chromosomes. Nothing gets me hotter.
what are the stats, 1/3 american women have experienced sexual assault? trannies are either idiots or assholes or both thinking that women want to unnecessarily subject themselves to any further danger. nice male muh privilege m8.
feels like i'm not getting aids
thanks for demonstrating how little you know about being trans. estrogen will cut your physical strength by about a 3rd.
regardless, no amount of muscle is going to save you from being bludgeoned to death.
the fact is that when transwomen get murdered, it's more than likely -because- they are trans. you being in an abusive relationship isn't centered solely around your gender identity.
I like how you only seem to address MtF transpeople. It's clear you have some irrational fear of other people living their own lives without interacting with you.
Those stats are very wrong, by the way. Even the 1/5 stat obama references isn't actually that high.
TRANSWOMEN? IN MY BATHROOM????
didnt know leftypol was so full of third wave intersectional sex-poz feminists
Occams razor time.
If you go out on a walk, and you see an asshole-you saw an asshole.
If you go on a walk and think everyone you see is an asshole, maybe you are the asshole.
Also put your flag back on, anfem.
terfs please die
wew lad
tranny downplaying abuse of women, what a suprise
That's what Holla Forums taught me.
How does it feel knowing lesbians would rather get AIDS from a tranny than fuck you?
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not surpised at this response from a whiny raped terf
pic of terf in thread
what if i go on a walk and notice that all the trans people are assholes then walk around some more and realize that they're still assholes. can i conclude that trannies are woman hater assholes?
maybe you're walking in a clinic for transpeople shouting "not real women lol" and they're spitting on you
in which case, again, kill yourself
that's the funny thing user. a lot of people want to fuck me. unfortunately for them, i've better and more rewarding things to do with my time.
this thread has ceased to be one of them.
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yeah asserting my right to take commonsense measures to avoid rape is a real asshole move.
Yes, let's take transgenderism as fact because special snowflakes are involved.
It's a shame that most lefties when it comes to feminism turn into liberal and/or PoMo feminists dullards. Sad!
I mean, I don't know you, but you sound like an asshole.
Not because of special snowflakes, but because of all the research that has been done to counter many of your points.
The majority of the shit you spew out has been disproven for decades but you don't -really- care about it because you got raped as a kid. It's not intellectual to shout "LOL SNOWFLAKES, TRIGGERED MUCH?". You're as reactionary as anyone on Holla Forums
shoo, terf. go buy some rope and hang yourself or something else equally productive
Bitch please, the best you could do is a girl completely out of it. Otherwise you couldn't pay someone to fuck you.
this may come as a shock but this woman is likely a rape victim and doesn't want to be anywhere near your dick. weight gain in women is largely emotional and often due to sexual trauma, which we have established is common even in western societies.
okay i'm out you can go back to your dominatrix pron now
It is my belief that all people are people and thus deserve basic human rights.
If that upsets you, you have some growing up to do.
being raped isn't an excuse for being reactionary and making other people incapable of changing their bodies to suit themselves.
stay in your own house alone forever if you're afraid of dicks. 50% of people got em
no surprise
What research? Please post it.
It's not intellectual to tell people to kill themselves.
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Can you even call bdsm a kink anymore?
Basically a vanilla pref by now tbh famrade
I get anal, but what's the appeal of a ballgag?
scholar.google.com
when you're done eating that quart of ice cream, take a look around
Domination.
Yes. Foot play for example is pretty widespread but it's technically a kink/fetish. It seems the fetish for TERFS is being angry and alone.
I wish they'd stop trying to include everyone in their fetish on a sfw board
Hmm ok so trannies are men who like dressing up. Good source, thanks for posting.
pick 1
How is a ballgag displaying that? I think its fucking hilarious, not dominant. It's like a displaced clown's nose.
TERFs and SWERFs are litteral bullies not worth talking about, they are a liability if anything else.
get a different coloured one lol
It is more about the gag, fam
According that that source you kindly linked me to, they are literally the same :^)
Reeeeeee
No one is a true women but meeeeeee.
but it doesn't make sense
sex voices make sex better
why would you make sex worse for yourself too? doesn't that fucking go against your own wish for domination?
not surprised terfs are literal retards
Why?
It's a gag that impedes ability to speak.
hnnnff! mmmnnffgghh! nfffghh! nnnnfffff!!
People like different things?
use a fucking earplug then if you hate sex voices
thats like fucking a mentally challenged person
creepy
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I can read it clearly thanks. Non-homo trannies get off to the thought that they are women. Now Big Pharma will allow them to do that for a very reasonable price I am sure.
Looking through a few more of those sources you posted.
Oh dear oh dear these so-called women are quite wrong in the head.
What are you even trying to say?
How about you put a shotgun up your cunt if you hate dicks so much?
rape is a hell of a drug
What are you even trying to say?
Forgot wearing "women's clothes" made you a "women".
Boys should play with action men and girls with dolls I assume?
TRANNIES CANT BE REAL WOMEN BECAUSE I WILL NOT BE LESS ATTRACTIVE THAN A FILTHY MANLET WITH FAKE TITS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE I WAS RAPED AND IN HINDSIGHT THAT WAS PROBABLY A GOOD THING CONSIDERING IM SUCH A FOAMING CUNT REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
They are not against liberal idpol, they embody it.
And yes, culture is relative, by definition. The existence of Islam doesn't change that.
What are you even trying to say?
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Kek, but don't bully
Let me walk you through it
There seems to be one user in this thread with a disturbing 'TERFS have been raped' fetish. They are probably reading this thread in tights and lipstick with their willy tucked between their legs.
what the fuck
TERFs are ultimate identity politics liberal feminists
half of them want to establish a matriarchy
anti-abortion terf? how did a soccer-mom find this board? did her grandson help?
Y'all should fuck off back to tumblr or whatever shit y'all came from.
What are you even trying to say?
Nah, I'm just laughing at the fact that you got raped considering you're such a shitty person to begin with. Go get some therapy and ask some questions about gender identity disorder while you're at it.
that doesn't make ballgags less silly
Sex steroids shape literally every piece of tissue in the human form. Claiming brain cells have arbitrary immunity is idiotic.
There is a difrerence between using fag as a slang and supporting pseudo-scientifics idpolsters just to piss off other idpolsters
Well modern science tends to disagree. What would be transexuals if essentialism was true ?
Never said that. Spurdo poster said because men dressed up as women are women. I jokingly said kids who plays with dolls are the girls and those who play with action men are the boys, which is bullshit.
Hmm, OK. You seem like a disgusting person to begin with. 100% a man in a skirt a possibly a paedophile too.
I'D SHITPOST ME, I'D SHITPOST ME REAL HARD
No, it does not.
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
No you asshole.
I said women dressed like women are women.
Just because you are bigoted doesn't mean I am.
lmao ok. How are they women before they 'dress up' as women. What is the identifier?
Well since no one would sign up for the kind of discrimination they face willingly, I'd supposed transitioning at all would be your first sign.
Misunderstood you, thought you meant essentialism as "born with a benis = boy".
the ballgag, according to some
But what is it that makes males think they should have female genitals?
Do they have s 'female brain' in a male body hmm
Not all transwomen think they should have vaginas. Not all transmen think they should have dicks.
Why do you think you should decide for them?
usually a psychotic break or a case of fetishism, tbh
for the former see Schreber, for the latter, trannies
What do they want then? It seems like all they want are the social benefits of being a man or a women. And in the end I would like to see social benefits abolished, not entrenched.
They can decided what identify they think they deserve all they like. I see no reason why I should accept it though.
how does being female feel exactly? how is it any different from ""feeling"" male?
I mean you don't have to. But no one has to accept your bigoted worldviews either.
And anyways, as a feminist don't you believe that women currently get less social benefit than men?
So (in your view) a man revoking his priveleged position in society upsets you?
What?
Educate yourself.
Iunno anfem. I'm just a guy that believes that people shouldn't be assholes to one another.
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So treating someone "as a man" makes them a man?
that's nice user but you shouldn't be ruining the thread like that. understand and post theory or get out. you don't even seem to understand the basics of feminist theory so why're you arguing it?
Tbf most feminists don't seem too either.
is this still a considered to be a "ball gag" or is it a hamburgag?
Yes. Being brought up as a man and having masculine values instilled in you from a young age makes you a man.
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nice meme newfag
americans…
So if you were born female but given traditional male upbringing does that make you intersex?
Seems like a flimsy stance to me.
are you implying that women have somehow a natural understanding of feminist theory just because they are women?
It's transgender people who are enforcing gender roles by claiming that they could be born as a different gender or by limiting the definition of a woman to the outer appearance.
You can't have a male upbringing as a female. Even if your parents tried to give you one, you'd still be treated and oppressed like a woman by the rest of society. One isn't born a woman but becomes one. This is through the experience of living as a woman and the socialisation that comes with it.
People were raised opposite to their chromosomes throughout the 90's.
This is a female to you. You're a fucking retard.
wew
double wew
Socialist flag is a Holla Forums trying to poison the well.
DO NOT reply
So what if one were socialized as the opposite gender from birth onwards?
Would you classify them as their biological sex or the sex they perceived themselves to be?
No but having lived as women, they have more experience and knowledge of what's it like to be a woman and the oppression that comes with it. It's harder for men to understand and empathize as they never experienced it. Women who argue about feminism without understanding theory are obviously dumbasses too but I doubt that they'd be feminists without at least a decent understanding of it and being women helps them understand women's issues better.
Oh okay, so trans people should just abolish roles instead of taking a practical approach to their lives to help their body & gender dysphoria.
how sensible and rational
nice idpol spooks buddy
explain.
How could that happen? A person with female biology is always treated like a woman due to physical inferiority, reproductive functions and so on.
no, they should continue to reinforce an oppressive system for their own comfort. how sensible.
(Sadly) that's not true at all. I had discussions with women who told me they wanted to be a housewife and they wanted their husbands to tell them how to vote, etc. If people experience oppression they won't be automatically conscious about it, some even learn to desire it.
pic very related
I'm a man, have a sister, and I introduced her to feminism, fyi
If feminism is a truly emancipatory project this statement is false.
Actually read stirner and understand what idpol is before shitposting using buzzwords. By "man", I'm referring to someone with male biology who has been socialised as male.
Misogynism and transphobia, what a wonderful socialist.
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Misogyny? Are you trying to deny biological reality?
Finally someone who understands!
I like Stirner but this shit has gotten out of hand. Explain how I'm ""spooked"".
wow, mister
you are sure superior to these "womens" you are talking about
There are women that can kick my and I'm assuming your ass.
Most don't seek that level of misculature because "society" deems it unattractive but that doesn't mean it is physically impossible
I'm a woman you retard.
Yeah, and I'm Jesus. I'm turning your hands into wine if you keep misbehaving, son.
But the average man is physically stronger than the average woman. Don't you think that's true?
We are socializing you as a male.
Sorry bro.
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But because of self imposed limitations, not biological ones.
Socialist flag is a Holla Forums trying to poison the well.
DO NOT reply
the fag who keeps posting
is a fag trying to poison the well.
DO NOT reply
socialist flag without the flag spotted
Like what? Are you saying that biological factors have no effect at all on physical strength? If a man and woman with the same daily activity level were to be compared, the man would almost certainly be stronger.
wymyn are weak
its in ther genes
wymyn are made to be make babbies
men are stronk
its in the genes
men are made to post about how others are totally weak
All these posters are trying to poison the well, do not reply!!
Find me "the average man and woman" and let's put them on a regime and measure results.
By self imposed limitations I'm referring to a desire to be consider attractive by societal standards. Not everyone cares but many try to live up to that standard.
samefag Holla Forums who keeps trying to le troll xD
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gas the trannies
Kill yourself you waste of oxygen.
this is the final drop of poison in the well, I'm calling the mods, oyu faggot and they will ban your ass
haha
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terfs' grandsons should stop helping them get online.
All the shit in this thread and that is what you have a problem with?
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and now the Holla Forums samefag unveils his "LE GUISE I LE TRICKED U AHAHAHAHAHHA SO FUNNEH" disguise to the sound of no hands clapping
AAAAAA THE WELL IS WELL AND TRULY POISONED WE WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO TALK ABOUT IDPOL AGAIN!!!!
MEN: STRONK
WYMYN: WEAK
Like I said , show me the test logs.
how can i samefag if 3 aren't me
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Telling everybody itt to suicide would take a while and I can't be assed to do this.
terfs should stick to sharing minions on facebook and get out of politics
Why do women do this?
CAN'T YOU SEE HOW WOMEN LACK THE MACHO HORMONES TO DEVELOP PROPER MUSCLE?
it's complicated
feminism is about equality, which is why men could never possibly become women
also I'm fat and need to kill myself LOL
Let's just make all the males transition so we can have Fully Futa Luxury Communism already.
this
Because they are inferior to men
what a joke.
As a man I find it very hard not having friends in real life to talk to about the benefits of testosterone.
Faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaag
As a tranny i want to put bullets in their necks, put them up against walls and shoot them with death squads, they won't contribute anything to the working class anyway.
same
Given the same training regime, the man will end up with far more muscular hypertrophy than the woman for biochemical reasons. furthermore, there are situations, such as wrist strength, where no amount of training will render any benefit to any woman over the laziest man.
For these reasons, I find your post the work of an intentionally misleading demagogue.
dont forget that this matters greatly and that black people are inferior to white people
amirite fellow comrade leftists?
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who said that ?
I'm entirely anti-pacifist tbh
Show us your evidence, oh alpha male.
Show us the results of your manly man training.
I DIDN'T SAY I WANTED TO PUT MY… TESTOSTERONE INTO THEIR MOUTHS, YOU DICK
It's not gay if you're the one sticking it in
t. Roman philosopher
You want to touch dicks to maximize testosterone flow?
wew
but you're not reactionary, no way
I don't want a world where they're outcasts, I've never advocated that. They can do whatever they want to honestly.
dude
like
dude
if i go gay
dude
will my abs gain faster?
If you could please post your review of Millett's Sexual Politics, that would be great.
Now, while the brain-damaged ignoramus is busy…
I did not claim to be an "alpha male". On the difference in response of male and female muscle tissue to progressive overload, I suggest any elementary text on strength training. I have Weight Training Principles & Practice by C. M. Norris in front of me, should you be to inept to find a text yourself.
As far as the wrist strength thing: link.springer.com
Any questions?
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what about brain muscles? are wymyns brain muscles inferior too?
Listen you faggot, I'm the only one providing sources here. Got anything to counter it? Thought so.
Questions?
Why do you think the US beef industry injects testosterone analogues into their cows, you fucking idiot?
Do you think we should inject sperm into young women too to counter their obvious inferiority and tepid weakness?
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go back to Holla Forums please
Brain tissue is not muscle tissue. If you are this ignorant of basic mammalian physiology, be quiet.
Does this mean that men are naturally tastier? I'm asking in case of a flotsam cannibal situation.
Well, there might be no muscles in your brain it would seem.
source?
hey guys i think this guy might be an alpha who works out and fucks bitches and knows a lot of things. i can tell because he's implying so
Being trans gender is a thing because you can be born with the brainchemistry and structure of one sex and the body of another but all this other multiple gender shot is just special snowflakes trying to get special attention because they don't conform to gender norms. Being a Tom girl doesn't make you a whole new gender.
Homophobia, hatred of women, transphobia.
Good things cocome in 3s
Come*
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Show us your flabby tits.
I have no interest in the deranged opinion you have expressed.
It means you should get more meat from a man. Taste is dependent far more dependent on the conditions you keep your man. The quality of the food, the amount of light in the dungeon and how much space in his cell are all factors in this.
Gray's anatomy.
Enjoy creating some fantasy figure in your mind to masturbate over, just stop troubling me with it.
I wonder what being an alpha male is like.
I can imagine myself… getting all them bitches… working out to have a hot bod… spending hours on the internet arguing about the weaknesses of women… fucking more bitches… reintroducing some testosterone into my body by ingesting my own sperm… more workout… success…
This is natures way of saying that men are but animals for food and women are superior.
we really should think about the ethical treament of men before ingesting them. sustainability is also a key concern
I love science! Biology is so interesting!
[Spoiler] I'll be honest here, Tankies are qts, literally every tankie i know is a god damn fucking qt [/spoiler]
I'm a vegan myself but I do enjoy some man meat from time to time.
How is it bigoted? What claims do they have to being a women other than demanding the world accepts as one because they feel they should?
A man can revoke his position all he likes but he has no place to speak on women's issues. Too many trans people think they can.
the cult is born
This is a viewpoint I have a lot of sympathy for. I remember my reaction when I first saw a story about a trans "man" who had decided to breast feed their baby. My initial reaction was to be astounded and state that they should be using a bottle like the rest of us.
I've ruminated on this further since encountering the activity and decided that whatever someone who does this, the most womanly of activities possible, is not a man. I do not care how they might have altered their physiology, men do not breastfeed children.
How can a male, with a neutral brain, with no experience or memory of having a womb, vagina or female levels of hormones circulating in their body. Suddenly decide that they should have the opposite set of genitals?
The utopia will be gender neutral, so your bourgeois identity becomes effectively pointless :^)
ffs, my typing is terrible tonight..
that whatever someone who does this is, the most womanly of activities possible, it is not a man
Men can actually modify their breast muscles to produce milk given sufficient amounts of testosterone.
This crap, again. No, there will still be differences between men and women. It will always be so. You are deluded.
See they can talk about it all they like but it means nothing
You can tell that TERFism is shit because its a type of feminism
Yes, sexual differences like women having a womb. A trans-man will never have that and ergo not women
Ah, yes. The "class is just another antagonism" meme. Very potent ideology.
What about deformed and injured women without wombs?
terfs pls hang selves plx
They either saw it coming or asked for it.
Do you know of anyone who was born a man, lives their life as a man and is happy being a man who extols the wonders of breast feeding?
Man can do anything. Women are weak. Muscles are cool. Testosterone.
Didn't say that. You said it's a cult because I said men can't talk about women's experience. Then I said it's similar to a porky talk about worker's experience. Of course they can but they are wrong.
Will have to check their chromosomes
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That's a no, then.
Please guy, talk about your experience of having a womb. periods and child birth :^)
Yes, because that's what makes you a woman.
That's not what I asked.
It makes you female.
spot-on
mencandoanything
Nice false flag :^)
Still yet to hear a reason why cross-dressing men are suddenly women, let alone female. It's p. bourgeois idealism to deny material reality and demand you be accept as something you're not.
So then the worker demanding to be accepted as a human being is a p. bourg idealist. Got it. Thanks.
No because a worker has the same material construction as a porky. His relation to MoP sets them apart.
A male does not have the same material construction as a women.
So the workers relation to the MoP isn't part of material reality. Got it. Thanks.
Who gives a shit what the worker wants to do?
What are you on about? You used the concept of 'human being' which is some bourgeois liberal crap to begin with. Nothing separates a worker and porky as 'human beings' except the MoP which is why the worker should own them.
A women and man are separated initially by their material construction and then by the division of labour.
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It's not. The women's struggle and class struggle are separate but overlap at times.
Dysphoria of what? How can a male, with a neutral brain, with no experience or memory of having a womb, vagina or female levels of hormones circulating in their body. Suddenly decide that they should have the opposite set of genitals?
got it
Except the brain is never completely a blank slate; we see small but significant differences in the brains of either sex and transsexual individuals.
Life's mystery atm, but acting like you know makes you look like an asshat (more than you already are)
i'm just asking people to be chill towards me having a god damn mental-illness how is it hard ?
also see
Not sure what you are talking about. But those things separate males and females undeniably. How they correspond to social norms as to what is desirable is what I want to change.
Well then, that opens up all ideas about sexed-brains and female and male brains.
Hmm yes. Enter into conversations where you have no idea about the topic then call the other person a mean word :'( because you got exposed as an idiot.
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Comrade, you are being very undialectical. You just don't understand that really wanting to be something you're not automatically makes you entitled to being so. Sure it's not fair that life has robbed you of a chance you were never given, but that gives you complete license to suddenly annul all the laws of science and the natural universe on behalf of an incarnation of wishful thinking.
Now read Hegel or something.
btw I'm a dog irl, stop triggering me.
And it's weird having a tranny thread without milo.
There will be differences in sex. I don't deny that, never have, it's my whole point in fact. What do you hope to materially appropriate from females because it is not possible.
Oh dear I messed up some terminology! There was one person in here who assumed I was raped because I am a TERF. I never said people wanted to rape me.
Maybe the sarcasm is going over my head but this is what I have been saying.
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Men get OUT
MEN IN DRESSES GET OUT
MEN WITH VAGINAS GET OUT
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TERFs are one of the earliest examples of feminist rhetoric being used to shit on society's downtrodden in the service of conservative ends.
Some liberal feminists reject the targets of TERFs and SWERFs, but few reject the ideas that led them there - they just find a different group of targets (i.e. gamers or "Berniebros") which still keep them curiously in alignment with the religious right.
trannies are spooked af tbh, picking a flavor of gender roles out of the two sets shaped by society and history isn't subversive at all
you're just reinforcing the idea that you need to adhere to one or the other ideal, both separate from yourself, even in the act of alleged self-expression
also anti-commodification of sex doesn't exclude sex workers if you oppose all wage labor, in other words swerfdom is only a problem for the liberal
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sure they may be spooked but so are cisgender people by your logic.
They are spooked.
Anyone that subscribes to some sort of sexual identity is spooked all to hell. Trendsexuals are just as much reactionaries as ethno-nationalists are. They're alienated as fuck by the degradation of their society by capitalism and in their desperation to try and achieve some sort of cultural stasis they cling onto the ephemeral traits of "identity."
If you had a vagina one day, you wouldn't feel that you ought to have a penis?
If you had gills one day, wouldn't you feel that you ought to have a snout?
If you had a trans-am one day, wouldn't you feel that you ought to have a zebra?
no
Both are essentially the autistic hambeasts of feminism not even your average SJW can stand
yes these people are THAT repellent
Transgender people aren't trying to be subversive you dingus
they're actively dealing with their mental condition in this case Gender Dysphoria this is a fucking medical issue not a goddamn political statement in and of itself.
It's a political statement whether they intend it to be or not. By spreading the idea that being traditionally feminine makes you a woman and being traditionally masculine makes you a man, they're reinforcing gender roles and keeping an oppressive system in place.
pls nigga
I think it is issues with bodily anatomy that define the disorder; that they pick up the same tired gender roles is a cultural issue related to making male and female something other than physiological.
I kno that lad, i just want peeps to be chill towards me and that's it, i can take care of the other problems myself, and anfems like to hammer the opposite apparently, they should all be banned tbh
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do we really need to choose between radfems and the related pic ?
What the fuck i am reading?
This silly bitch has never been in the gent's has she?
