Casuals/Ultras Thread

Barbarian Soul

Can't tell if it's because he's a European intellectual and they all sound pseudo-Marxian, but reading his writing is like reading Baudrillard:
I'll keep reading to find the useful stuff though.

Agreed. Dyal mixes some anarchism in with his fascist and "insurrectionary" thought as well. Hotta separate the good from the bad.

He is a great guy for a namefag, he has pretty much been silent for the last couple of years, I suspect because Arktos might have screwed him over on a book deal.

His PhD thesis used to be online but I cant find it now. It was 100% focused on the Ultras and Soccer Hooliganism

Russian "Ultra-nationalists?" I remember fighting you guys in the original Ghost Recon.

My apologies.

larpagan / the thread

That explains why this is raising my hackles. I won't keep suspecting him of being Marxist then; I can deal with anarchism, not Marxist shit on the sly. What was irritating me the most was how he was trying to theorize the "neo-liberal state", but just kept describing "the state" in general.
I guess that's more common than we like to admit, but still makes me laugh.

lol same reaction here

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What do you mean by this? Are you talking about football or basketball? Because both were invented by white people. I realize that nowadays the two are both filled with negros, but team sports have been molding whites into strong leaders for years and years. What do you want, a group composed entirely of flabby video game players? I am not athletic and I used to be fat. I took it upon myself to get stronger and to try out sports in HS. I wasn't any good but the experience surely made me a better person. Go outside. You don't need to enjoy sports, but in terms of their original incarnations, they are by no means degenerate.

Pick one

this

Are they real martial artists or just a bunch of strongmen pretending they can fight?

By your pic they seem to be built like the latter.

The anarchism is probably due to the fact that most fascists in the world today are living under a hostile government. This is what I make of my progression. Anybody with a shread of thought should refuse to support a government with an ideology that is fundamentally opposed to their existence. I believe that many probably became anarchists because they did not realize that alternative forms of government exist at all. That's probably the whole reason (((they))) shut down any talk of Hitler or the Nazis in Europe. It's not because some survivors will be offended. It is to make sure that normal people don't acquire the knowledge of any systems that are any better. What I am trying to say is that it should surprise no one that people become anarchists under a pozzed government. It does not represent you. It actually abhors you. When legitimate authority is in place, anarchism then can not be tolerated.

how can I into gains?

Also explains why so many burgers came here via lolbertarianism

Look up 'the Battle of Liverpool": alliance between 2 nationalist groups and 2 groups of ultras. It's an interesting example of using them in street action.

youtu.be/GW_fdUHQPQU

I wouldn't call them "artists", but they're extremely effective at violence. They train as professionals do, but with the added dimension of street war.

youtu.be/yipZoleY8ik?t=24m33s

Anyone who says "LARP" needs to get gassed at this point.

Do you know how I know you have never been in a fight?

LARPer detected.

They have more meat on themselves than the amount of meat you sucked off, faggot.

The weak hate and fear the strong for being better then them.

It stems from envy. For example want to know how to identify someone who will always be poor? Their hatred of rich people. You want to identify someone who will always be a loser? They hate the successful. Want to identify someone who will always be a pussy? They hate men with balls. And so on and so forth. Their hatred shows their own lack and what they will never be.

Look at the masses who are so eager to tear down Western civilization. Why is this? Because they know they could have never created it. Greatness strikes hated and anger into the inferior. They can’t be those things so they must tear them down and destroy them so that they are not constantly reminded of their own inferiority. Like Feminists who must destroy all feminine beauty, cucks who must destroy all masculinity and national pride.

Taken from this.
charlessledge.com/why-weak-men-hate-and-fear-strong-men/

Eights confirm. Well said.

wtf are you even rambling about, Chaim

Ironically, his reply evoked my point: if liking niggerball is their main vice, but everything else shows potential, why aren't we working on getting control of these groups ideologically? Are others already in control of them, as seems to be the case with some? Is this the next step? That's what I'm interested in here.

There's very big, huge problem with «hooligans», «ultra nationalists», «MMA club with rightwing flavor» and everything related, at least in the 3rd world (where I reside).
They descend into crime and turn into goon squads for hire really fucking fast.

Interesting. Their lack of technique would be concerning if not for the fact they spar a lot which gives them a massive advantage over everyone that doesn't have formal training. Good enough I'd say, since they don't train for competition.

More than you've ever had faggot.

THis has been true throughout history, everywhere: the SA had similar elements, later problematic but temporarily useful. Kyokushinkai was known for involvement with Yakuza in Japana as well, but are now "respectable"

Same principle as 90% of soldier training in the military: they aren't the deadliest once they leave boot, but they're deadlier and more useful than the average population of untraineds.

This is true, I guess it depends, like most things, on context when it comes to whether or not anarchist thoughts and methods can be useful or destructive. Your explanation could also be applied to NS thinkers like James Mason who hates the state to the point that at times Siege reads like a tract written by a modern-day Bakunin.

Lol. They look like actual faggot "bear" porn stars.

so you're implying that its less gay if someone sticks their meat inside of you when comparing to sucking off meats?

wow, what a comeback!

Isn't it sad that that's the first thing that pops into your head when you see men?

Dubs of wisdom

Stop using this fucking retarded leftie term

Kek, faggots gonna fag.

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YES, but they get purged after a year or two of taking power.

You guys are retards. Football clubs are the core of neofascism in Europe. Every paramilitary group comes from hooligan clubs.

In the 1998 version of Rainbow 6, you fight a European ultra-nationalist group opposed to the EU in the 90s.

Er, I think it was set in the mid 2000s actually. Anyways, you get the point.

People can say what they want about Ultras/Hools/Skins but at least none of them will be on a picture board asking "What do I do if I encounter Antifa?" I actually saw a post asking that question. These low-testosterone beta faggot shrieking violets can't even handle people as weak as themselves, but have the nerve to talk shit on those who can eat dindus and beaners for breakfast. LMAO! Most of these effete yellow fashies would shit on themselves if they had to fight a dindu or a spic. Most would run away crying like their hero Dickie Spencer.

Nothing but useless idiots.

National Action and Generation Identitaire have done a great job in achieving virtually nothing.

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Generation identity is like 10 thousand strong has its own bars clubs and summer get togethers. They have built a community.

huh, I thought this was only here
Here they just fight and are banned from the stadiums. So they just make places to brawl, half of them know shit about football.

Are they useless idiots? Most of those guys are productive members of society (believe or not) and have families. Families. Wife and kids. They do more for the "14 words" on that front alone than all of the NEETSocs posting on Twitter and fullchan - many of whom will never lose their virginity (at least in a heterosexual way) while crying about why they can't find a "trad wife", let alone sire another generation.

NA and GI won't be on Holla Forums asking what to do if they encounter Antifa. GI actually lead a healthy lifestyle with rigorous much like the Hooligans and Skins in Slavic countries do. The average NeetSoc can't do a single pushup.

I have no idea what this thread is about

Ultra-nationalists are not the same thing as Ultras. The former has nothing to do with football

They have like 1 bar. They have a video where they picknick together and do some karate in a forrest. Wow. Fucking t-shirt merchants, nothing more.

You're right, NA won't be on Holla Forums, the luggage room will be blocking their 4G signals.

I thought that NA is basically defunct ever since got labelled as a terrorist group by the british gov

Here's your problem. These people shall and will be killed.

We aren't neo- anything. We are national-socialists.

Yeah, nah. Zionist stooges are the same everywhere you go.

Dubs of truth here lads

You know you could really just generalize that into a rule of opposites, because it also works in reverse.

Well said.

Eat a dick commie cuck

CIA go home

https ://www.thesun.co.uk/news/1310750/vasily-the-killer-ultra-the-violent-background-of-russias-most-vicious-hooligan-who-has-wreaked-havoc-at-euro-2016/

Men being men, what's the problem? A nationalist is always better than a communist no matter their looks or actions. And last time I checked, isn't the Russian government actually against the (ultra)nationalists?

I have read that rampant homosexuality has become a problem among slavic hooligans. New members are being raped as part of an initiation ritual but also casual sex as a part of in group bonding has become the norm. Even a phenomenon called "bug chasing" has become a major health concern. Many also are regular users of class A drugs. These people definitely don't share the same NatSoc core values that we do.

a bitch to be a normie, isn't it?

Yeah, I mean, buttsex and handjobs among friends are no big deal around these parts. It's just bants, really. Besides, who else are we supposed to fuck? All our women are cleaning toilets/pole dancing in Germany. Like my grandpa used to say: It's not gay if you don't look each other in the eyes.

t. Slav

You're not incorrect in your statement, but you're incorrect in your context. Holla Forums is a place for those who are strong of will and mind. It should be appreciated for being such, and if you cannot appreciate Holla Forums for what it is, and take it for its strengths and weaknesses to ensure a future for white children, then you are a hindrance to be discarded.

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Chimping in the streets doesn't get Presidents elected. Dwell on that.

Maybe ancedotal but was just in italy for business two weeks ago noticed all the new graffiti super right wing these past months.. wasnt there last time. Invaders must die.. ect ect… i fucking hate graffiti and its degenrate as hell… but at least didnt see as many antifa and nigger gang tags as usual

What is ultra-nationalist? I never heard of that word before. By the way, the tattoo is trashy so here they go in the bin. Our body is like temple.

They look strong and masculine, therefore they will some day make for good brownshirt troops.

It makes sense. Many here are former progressives and harbor jealousy & resentment towards those who are better off in some shape, form or fashion (stronger, better looking, more successful, etc) is the bedrock of progressivism. It's why at the root of every feminist is that girl that no one asked out, or in the case of the male feminist, a guy who's desperate to get laid, but lacks those masculine qualities that women find appealing. Lots of resentment, lots of jealousy. Even when someone ditches Cultural Marxism for WNism, that person may still have some progressive baggage and degenerate thought patterns. When the former progressive-turned-NS sees a Football Hooligan ("Ultra"), NS Skinhead or "Wood" (a West Coast subculture, similar to Skinhead), he sees the "Chad", jock or bully who used to pummel him because he either didn't have the ability to fight them off, or he was simply too afraid to.

this.
the actuall russian hooligans I've watched kicking english butts were all thin and fit, like you would expect a soldier to be.