==Battleborn turned gaming cinematics into "high art"==

"Art" in terms of usage in video games is turning into a misnomer at this point.

archive.is/VnAgM

Shitty games journalism thread?

They do know the game flopped don't they?

This motherfucker gonna give me diabetes

I'm currently in the process of writing a thesis on the San Francisco modernist art "dilemma" and why it's self-destructive, yes, it includes bits of modern game journalism as well

The basic structure of the dilemma goes as follows;
its self-destructive and is what's currently happening in the gaming communities, yes, video games are considered an art, it requires artists to make certain key aspects of games, but if you give everything a 10/10 because you're payed off makes the term "masterpiece" mean less and less over time, scores like 10/10 should be given only to the absolute highest standard. This problem is less persistent in Hollywood as most Hollywood writers are SoCal neocons with actual academic achievement in contrast too game journos who are NorCal leftists

Because it was a game nobody gave a fuck about when it went up against Overwatch, and at least had porn going for it?

looks like Gearbox wasn't able to outpay Blizzard. had they been this willing to talk about the game so much back when it was actually coming out then maybe it wouldn't have failed so badly.

allahu akbar

what the fuck is a 'battleborn'?

No actual artists use the word "art," no one who actually understands art uses the word "art." This I have learned from seeing every ignorant idiot parrot "art" over and over and over.

...

Gearbox's new game. It's a first-person MOBA shooter piece of crap, featuring writing from everyone's favorite cuck.

a """"""""""competitive"""""""""" game made by the people behind Borderlands.

Don't forget the random cringe worthy statement where a military guy says feminism is awesome as a team announcement.

yes, go to 5:27

do you think they shared a qtboy?

if they did the Jackson trials would've implicated Trump.

burch is so fucking embarrassing…

This is bad.

No, Battleborn.

Every character sounds like that.

And they talk. Constantly.

Stop that. But yes, Burch is retarded.

all of these lines are fucking terrible

more like BADleborn

You had one fucking job spick

The word you're looking for is "cringey" my newfaggot friend

I'm sorry I did a BAD job.

If that word could kill itself it definitely would

Even paid journo shills know it's shit.

that nigga would have never snitched his friend.

You know what? The voice acting in TF2. Can we actually talk about how amazing Valve actually is at writing dialogue and hiring VAs? Because yeah its really good compared to this piece of shit

why would a big HOORAH SOLDIER GUY even say something like that other than the writer wanting to namedrop feminism

Depending on the game, at least. TF2 has problems with how the Spy seems to have a split personality, and CS:GO has pretty much no voice acting to begin with.

but i didn't cringe, i scowled

You sure you aren't the newfag, user?

DotA 2 also has some pretty damn good voice acting

Wtf is with these people and that opening cinematic I keep getting recommended it via kotaku's channel. I've rejected it multiple times and even said I don't want to see anything from kotaku, but it keeps showing up.

So, did Burch write these characters or is everyone at Gearbox a mouthbreathing troglodyte who feels the need to push their shit agenda into everything they do?

snitching is not an implication. that's plain incrimination.

Just compare this to TF2s soldier and just overall how much better his writing is and how much high quality the voicework is

Also, at about 9:45 in the video I hear him say "GET WRECKED V!" Is that referencing Holla Forums or is there a thing about the game I don't know?

Both.


What games have good soldier voice-acting/lines?
Red Orchestra?
Insurgency?

I thought Cuckman was bad, who wrote these lines, they are just as bad.

Only high art can run at a choppy 30 fps.

Insurgency sort of has a "dudebro" vibe going, but at least it sounds enthusiastic and somewhat authentic. Not to mention the lines are very simple, non intrusive, and devoid of any politically charged language. The middle eastern rebel forces have a sort of forced and cliche sandnigger accent, and although it's very noticeable, I'd take that shit over Gearbox "look at how witty and progressive I am" shit any day.

40K games.

Fucking yes

If there will ever be a war I'd have to fight in (unlikely, I'm a scrawny, hungry skeleton) I swear to Godemperor I'd scream some of those quotes.

Can't leave out the imperial guard out of this. That'd be downright heretical.

Oh shit, SWF files work aga-
Nevermind

To be fair, he is talking about the intro, wich is an animation and music, thus art.

DotA 2 suffers slightly on the VA front because Valve uses their actors to voice various heroes. Some can do it well and have distinguishable voice e.g. the ara ara dragon being voiced by the same actor as legion commander, but some can't and need to rely on layers of editing and effects. Compare spectre and mirana's voice, for example.

even the big fat faggot of Biosock disagrees with "professional bloggers"

H-how the fuck did they manage to fuck up this badly?

How could they not see how terrible this writing and voice work is?

How?!

HOW?!

Jesus christ, its like they hired a cuckold from antifa to play a soldier and try and sound hard.


Maybe it was that Jake Rapp dude?


Remember, burch wrote this. This is the same man who's not only a cuckold, but is in love with his sister and gets off to hearing her bf rail her while he lives at her house free of charge on her sofa

It's that the President with Michael Jackson? RAD

Jesus Christ this is awful, and that propaganda line makes me want to kick a baby.

I feel sick now.

You'd think with all the money and hookers Gearbox dumps on review sites they'd have some left over to put into development.

Blizzard likely outbid them to the point where they had only pennies left for the game.

Can someone post the actual intro? It's on Youtube, but can someone make a webm? I think we should all at least look at how shit it is if it's apparently the best thing about this game.

To be fair, I think that MGSV one was just a different choice of words. Like they combined protagonist and "main character".

What the fuck is this bullshit.
I play Battleborn almost daily and I love it but the cinematic is fucking garbage. It's so fucking horrible that I almost turned the game down on the very opening cinematic with a shitty Gorilaz song. It was that horrible.

I really enjoy Battleborn PvP and PvE gameplay, but please, this is too much.


Those are joke lines and tongue in cheek. He says that when he kills a female character, his persona tries really hard to fit in and therefore says whatever the fuck he thinks is cool and trend with nowadays. Oscar Mike is a full parody and thus you guys are eating this as something serious when it's not. The dialogue is not great though

A intro cinematic should not be praised as part of the game, considering that most of them are bloody outsourced anyway.

The game/gameplay (and how good it is) should be what judges the quality of the game. Not the single fucking intro cutscene.

It's like their deliberately trying to out retard one another.

Fuck it, Youtube embed.

I wouldn't really call it a good cinematic. I think it's made in flash and it shows.

This is fucking awful. It looks like a 2D concept for a 3D animation, but they didn't go through with it.

no youre right now that you explained it oscar mike must just be that really deep of a character we just didn't see it no youre right man

All vidya are art, that is why they require artists, editors and musicians.
Many people make the mistake or thinking art can't be trashy or shit, in can and most is.

As for "high art" is vidya I would consider those to be games with interesting design and mechanics. Mario 64 is the best example I can think of for what I would call "high art" in vidya.

Why are so many people here against the protected speech that comes with the "art" label being applied to vidya?

Uggh, the music, the animations, JUST.

I don't know how to feel.

that sounds like Del The Funky Homosapien

which is the only acceptable part of this cinematic.

seriously, is that an animatic? they're going to actually animate it at some point in the future, aren't they?

it's a decent music video, but it's a fucking terrible piece of animation.


video games are a medium. many video games are not art, some are. BATTLEBORN IS NOT.

Serious academic advice;
If you can spare the time find someone, anyone at any Business school from Marketing and have a talk, even if you can't turn it into a citable reportage/article.. whatever, they will point you to some real shit.

That's a sikh though

I don't go for that reasoning because then you need to define what makes one book, movie or vidya art while others aren't. I have never seen a definition that covers this that doesn't quickly fall to pieces when dealing with "edge cases".

I think it's much easier to consider all creative media art and just accept that most art is shit.

...

one more

A creative work that not only has a it's formal representation - the things being depicted directly - but also a symbolic representation (some specific message or theme) formed through a planned arrangement of these formal elements.

Bay's Transformers is not art - they're purely made for entertainment and there's no effort being made into making some sort of artistic representation.
Hitchcock's Rear Window is art - there is a clear effort to use the movie to portray a message about the voyeuristic and passivity involved in film viewing.
Bob Ross' paintings he makes on his show are not art - he just makes them to entertain and teach.
Friedrich's Wanderer above the Sea of Fog is art because it's meant to communicate the confusion and lack of national identity felt by Germans after the Napoleonic Wars.

The biggest thing to note is that this only makes mention of the creator's intent for their creation, not on the actual quality of it - being art is not an indicator of quality. Shit like Gone Home may very well be art if they were created for that purpose, but they're shit art with how poorly they use the medium.

By that definition realistic landscapes aren't art because they aren't trying to convey anything other than what the artist was looking at.

...

They often aren't art, they're just excellent paintings. You can be really good at your craft but not create art if you don't intend to.

Of course, being good at your craft makes you a lot better at making art since you have a better understanding of your medium and can thus manipulate it to portray what you wish in a much better fashion. People bad at working with their craft are going to be naturally shit at using them to make art.

Well, good thing nobody cares about a random user's definition on "art"

I'll agree to disagree, any definition that depends on anothers thoughts is fundamentally flawed.


I care because when these threads come up everyone argues without ever stating their definition and everyone has their own definition because it's not well defined in any official manner.

That's not how it works, jackass. Those are all art, you just don't like some of them. Your attempts to sound knowledgeable are embarrassing.

I did not actually make this definition. It's a definition held by several classical art circles, film critics, and the like. Of course to the layman that doesn't attempt to even analyze art it wouldn't

I actually Bay's first Transformers, but I can recognize that a work is not being used for art. If literally every creative work is art than art would have no meaning beyond being "something that someone made", regardless of its intent or purpose.

Which ones

Yeah, this seems more like a desperate attempt to get people interested in the game.

People don't realize this trend of having these wacky quirky characters who all yell silly things is extraordinarily played out and it makes all the characters a lot more aggravating than charming. Some work, but people don't realize that when writing these types of characters you still have to actually write well.
But why try when this bottom of the barrel level of humor will still get kids and reddit meme level fucks giggling?

BF4 had iconic lines like
I'M GETTING MY SHIT PUSHED IN HERE!

We have reached a point where parody is very hard to distinguish from peoples actual opinions.
It's also funny as fuck that Burch's character will do anything to fit in

True. And sad

The game has a lot of flaws that I point out daily myself, 'cause I play it. But pointing out a shitty line that is a god damn parody out of context? Come on niggers you can do it better.

Don't push him too hard, he can't back any of his horseshit up.

While they were starting to get repetitive like the /webm/ thread, at least it was vidya.

That wasn't even the best line out of the series.

The best was:
ENEMY BOAT SPOTTED

Especially when you were in a Middle eastern map with no water, spammed over and over and over again…

It's not a parody. It's just a shit writer wanting to push in the word feminism.

Are you fucks really that delusional to the point where you think "No no, Anthony Burch is just ~making fun~ of people who shoehorn feminism into everything to fit in!" Really, stupids? The guy who framed his tweet from Anita is now suddenly making fun people who try to fit in with feminism?

Stop lying to yourselves, you dumb fucks.

You fail to realize that Anthony Burch didn't do the writings of the game. He wasn't in charge of anything.

Trying to find any excuse to fuel your hatred is pure ignorance.

Oh, in that case, then you must be right. Gearbox must be subtly making fun of feminism and we're all just too dumb to figure it out. Man, these Battleborn characters are maybe just TOO in depth!

He said he helped write the game you mongoloid.

...

Help doesn't mean that he did everything.

Same way that Christopher Lee helped in many of the first Spiderman films and they were fucking trash.

WEW

Pathetic.

I'm assuming the next step in his retard flowchart is to go "I'm not defending Gearbox, I actually hate them! And I bash this game too! But…."

He probably thought borderlands two had a good story.

this is the worst intro I've ever seen and I want someone to show me worse.

That is just fucking terrible.

Huh? It's like this guy never played any other Blizzard game: they always make top-notch cinematics and that's one thing that will never change for the worse about Blizzard.

You never proved me wrong you nigger.


It's not maybe. It fucking is, you're using it out of context when that line is used in game.


You're just retarded. To the other many flaws that you could point at that are true and still there, you go and point something small that is not even what you think it is.


The only game I bought from gearbox was Borderlands 1 and I still think it was a good game unlike the rest.

But ofcourse you guys know better when listening to the voice lines outside the game. Next time another game brings something "feminism" related even with an ironic voice you'll threw a tantrum like fucking manchildren because they used a word that triggers your autism even if they're making fun of it.

You got enough (you)'s from me.

no one threw a tantrum except you.

What's Donald Trump doing on an airplane with Jotaro Kujo, Osama Bin Laden, and John F Kennedy?

It is right here retard


Also
You must be new here or lost. This isn't reddit.

The were calling him Solid Snake dumbass, he's not Solid Snake

The animation looked like complete shit. Great, not only do they not know shit about video games, but they clearly don't understand what good animation is either. And the article is about having an opinion on both, and it's supposed to be taken seriously?

I think maybe this guy should explain to us just how this is ironic and satire and yet not another random blurb the character shouts to be quirky except this one includes feminism because Gearbox wrote it.

Please explain to us how they're really making fun of it, and you're the only one here smart enough to understand.

I thought Oscar Mike was just happy that he was finally able to kill women

He comes from a planet populated entirely by clones of himself

Is a biology textbook art?

Battleborn is not mainly written by Burch unlike Borderlands for fucks sake.


Yes he is and he does. He lives in planet Mike, filled with Oscar Mike soldier clones.
He never had the chance to kill women before, only Varelsi or Thralls.
Again, those lines are only said by him when he kills a female character.

Burch is still involved.

You are a fucking deadshit.

Final Score: Kill Yourself/10.

...