US-Russian relations

Why have US-Russian relations been in decline the past 15 years?

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Because both sides have imperialistic ambitions, Putin wants to secure and expand Russian influence while Burgers try to cockblock him wherever it is possible. I thought it was quite obvious

I'll give you secure but expand? Any examples of this? Russia makes no secret about wanting 'privileged status' in the former soviet block. But I don't see how this is any different to US policy in their own back yard. Now obviously two wrongs don't make a right. It just strikes me as belligerent on the US's part.

Russian imperialists hoping to cut into US' imperialists market

I would guess because we've ben sabotaging each other any way we can get away with without the button being pushed for the better part of a century. Russia is probably butthurt they are considered to have lost the Cold War, Murka is as insufferably smug and condescending about winning another war. Both are have been acting like imperialist turds since before the war started, so it's simplicty itself for one to talk shit about the other.

Example? Ukraine, Georgia. These are examples of the exact opposite of what you claim.

The eastward expansion of NATO. Also the expansion of the EU, which largely precedes integration into NATO. There were agreements drawn up at the end of the Cold War that this should not be done, but its happened anyway. Big surprise.

Ukraine was a red line for Russia. Without laying out its historical significance and intimate economic ties to Russia, consider that, up until recently, a lot of Russian gas flowed out of it into Europe proper. That was an economic lifeline for Russia, with its oligarchical regime and industrial stagnation. Also consider that Russia doesn't have much access to warm water ports – the main reason for the existence of Kaliningrad Oblast – so having Sevastopol as a base for its Black Sea fleet was paramount to Putin's global security interests. Could he trust that an EU-integrated and potentially NATO-integrated country would ensure Russia's continued access to that base? No. Of course not. After all, NATO had already arrived at its borders via the Baltics. So all bets were off. Similarly, the only naval base Russia has access to in the Mediterranean is in Syria: Tartus. Is it any surprise that is has a keen interest in the events there?

Now, the Kremlin has imperialist ambitions – it just can't realize them, mostly because it's on the back foot and is fighting to keep its security interests within its general reach. Not to mention preventing Russia from fragmenting into a large-scale version of the breakup of Yugoslavia was the primary concern of the Russian government even for most of Putin's leadership. Western media talks endlessly about Russian aggression – but what it fails to acknowledge is that US imperialism pretty much had free reign from 1991 until Georgia, 2008. Russia was again strong enough to reassert its interests by force – and then the whole rhetoric changed. So there's a bit of context to the saber-rattling.

Because the Russians have nothing the Americans want.
They have no incentive not to fuck with them.

Just because they can? Seems pointless. I don't believe they're doing it for no reason.

Plenty of meat in this post and IMO pretty damned accurate. But still doens't get down to the real why.

Because they never been good. The west only liked Russia when Yeltsin was okay with the west raping Eastern Europe.

fuck sake. Didn't mean to hit post.

Why the encroachment of NATO and the EU? Why the attempts to keep in check the Russian navy?

I'm quite certain US Capitalists consider both their colonies already. And the Russia too.

They would do it to China too if there wasn't the "sensitive" economic aspect. It's about asserting dominance.

lel true.

Probably correct. I've gone blank but there are a couple of decent examples of US economic warfare against the EU too. IMO it is essentially the case that the US is now playing for all the marbles. Their economic system is about to collapse (again) and this time the economy isn't strong enough to survive it, not the military strong enough to tell the whole world to fuck off (though they don't fall far short here). I think what we are seeing is an attempt by the US to kill of any and all competition.

The world economy is going down the shitter, and the US will be best placed to capitalise on it just like after the last crash.
You might scoff at that as you didn't see any of the benefits but the US usually plays these situations well.
There will be people in the US government doing the war games now.
I doubt any other country is.

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This debt is unsustainable though. Even the US is currently struggling to make ends meet. Just look at the recent government shutdowns and debate over the debt ceiling. And it's not as if this shit doesn't matter as the UK spends more each year on debt interest than it does its military. At the current (low) rate of interest the UK pays back in debt INTEREST (note, not even touching the principal) £1tn in 20 years. For reference Trident replacement will cost £200bn over 30 years. 4 years of debt interest could pay for Trident's replacement outright.

Where the hell is all the money going?

Liberal fearmongering because Russia has finally turned towards traditional values, which scares the hard Left

Because dismantling Russian power to enable American hegemony has been a foreign policy goal for the United States since 1945.

Sir do you understand that memes that are this dank are against the law?

Because the money required to support a welfare state is running out and the American Establishment needs a war to distract from the fact that the gravy train is coming to an end and they won't be able to pay the pensions of all the boomers and the young now refuse to foot the bill, so now they have two options one being nuclear war that kills large scores of their own population or two being civil war which would result in the oligarchs either on the run or hanging from trees.

The US was not a country that managed to go through the 2008 crash without any troubles

morals dont apply to geopolitical powerplay

Also, expanding influence to where they dont have it now is still expanding, even if it could be called "reclaiming".

Capitalist pls go

What was her name again?

MUMMY.

Sure lots of people got stiffed, but lots of people made a packet.
That won't happen when China goes pop.
Chinese """""investors""""" use horoscope tier analysis.

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Putting the qt back in prosecutor.

Because the cold war never ended. The US was hoping that Russia would become another third world country which they can colonize to extract the natural resources from the vast Russian territory, they tried to accelerate this process by funding independence groups within the Russian Federation in order to balkanize it into many weaker statelets that are easier to exploit but their attempts failed.

Russia was in such a terrible state in the 90s that no one expected it to recover and start influencing international politics again for the next 50 years but in 2008 it proved that it could, this was not only an obstacle to US imperialist plans for north Asia but it also threatened their status as the sole superpower in a US-controlled uni-polar world.

Mother Russia.