Western Virtue Renaissance

I'm pretty sure the most autistic post here is still OP trying to come in and lay down the law like he's not just some fucking random.

You think like a child.

That's not really an argument.

No. 3 is retarded.

This is some pseduo american sort of morality. violence on tv of a brutal level is okay but tits is crossing the line. nudity, sexuality and yes even porn in some cases is permissible. boys shouldn't be shy of the female form, nor should they be exasperated of it. but a healthy respect and admiration is normal.

OP what you propose is admirable and i'l be one to say u dont suck cocks but it's not realistic or visionary. you've got a long way to go from reforming society. you have to think realistically foremost.

Damn you leave our flame wars alone.

Under what circumstances? If I'm in the middle of a war on a foreign land and a family of locals helps me out, I'm going to favor them over a random countryman I've never met. Doubly so over a fellow countryman turned traitor.

This is the story of commentary that is very easy to say if you spend your entire life living in a small community without risking your life or having others on the line, but there exist bonds much stronger than blood, and certainly much stronger than culture.

You forgot 5:

Only a jew would kill a family that helped him.

We have a pretty obnoxious number of American cuckservative holdover beliefs in even some of our best anons.

Well I like the idea behind the thread. We can amend it and fix it up. Kind of like the rules of the internet.

There's no real point to making a codified 'Believe this or get out' thread, but the ideas themselves aren't bad in general. It's all in the board culture hivemind already, it's all more or less imparted upon everyone in a less hamfisted way as it stands.

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And that's exactly my point.

The "Point 4" given by the OP is the sort of logic which Israelis and Jews employ. They will always favor each other over goyim regardless of what happens. This is not how whites behave. Whites place value in actions and what a person has done. To some degree I imagine it's the same mindset that also makes whites work exceptionally well with all forms of animals. In short - it's what made the European people dominate the world, while the Jews could only latch on.

I like 2 and 4 but 1 and 3 could use revision.

You're talking about taking advantage of others, which should be avoided even for those not of your group, but everyone is going to be more inclined to help those close to them before those farther removed. I don't see a problem.

Fuck off kike

No, you fucking autistic child, it's a statement of fact.

Agreed, it's time to turn to the old values and ethos, make them the norm, broadcast them, promote them in any way you can.

you're still thinking like a cuckservative. sexuality should be respected, not shied away from or exploited.

Its autistic, but you know some fucking faggot would make this argument to get out of a war.

Shill detected.

if you don't follow the beliefs of diogenes, you are not my nigga

I can't believe such dumbasses browse here. Not your fault though I see people like you every day in academia, critical theory really fucked up the 115-130 IQ range.

It's a pretty big mistake, and shows that you haven't lurked long enough to appreciate the ideal of holding our order in high esteem, which includes two forward slashes.

Individualism is a curse that has doomed the Western world.
As a collective, the White race is unstoppable. We need not become ants to reach our potential though. Simply creating families and communities to build the nation should be out goal.
The culture of the US/democracy/libertarianism fosters a belief of "I got mine" and "it doesn't personally affect me". This culture has been pushed in the form of anti-communist propaganda, that collectivism is bad, as part of a plan to keep the events of National-Socialist Germany from ever happening again.

At every level we have see the foundations of our People attacked, and scattered to the winds.
The importance of Race is attacked,
the importance of Community is attacked,
the importance of Family is attacked,
until our People become people. Mindless singular drones that follow consumption as a way of living. Only caring about themselves, their pleasure, and what can be done for them.
Even when families are created, they only exist as a way of personal fulfillment (if they even manage to last). Our People have forgotten that the Family is the basic building block of the Community, and that families need to be created to foster wellness and grow the Community, thus strengthening the Race.

Agreed. This is the basis of identitarian politics. Unfortunately, going in the opposite direction, like "It is natural to seek out others of like mind and establish community amongst myself and others" supports causes like NAMBLA and globalism. Philosophical definition always runs into problems like this.

As for 3;

Sex is a given constant for everyone and everything. Whether it's advertised or not, it will still be central to the decision making processes of all citizens, regardless of whether there are tits on TV or not. However, using sex to sell standard bullshit establishes a hack on the mind of the average person, making Joe Blow buy a specific brand of car and beer because he thinks it'll lead to him getting laid. This hack works for the (((companies))) skeevy enough to cheat their way to success by relying on their willingness to lie instead of their willingness to make something valuable and worthwhile, but this hack fucld over the citizens by draining the gullible dry, and filling the market with shit that doesn't fulfill a true purpose (what it's intended to fill) but rather a dual purpose (what it's supposed to be and getting the buyer laid), which can never serve the greater good as well as it could if it were a single purpose. The result is an environment for all that lacks clarity of purpose, and instead some shit hole filled with degeneracy trying to outdo degeneracy to grab that market share with sexier tits, bigger promises, and a continuous downward spiral that I'm sure (((you))) are fine with.

Everyone who posts /pol, pol, POL, Pol, etc is a stupid fucking outsider who has not taken the time to lurk and learn how things work. The slash thing used to be rigidly enforced, posting without them was recognized as basically saying "I AM A CANCEROUS NEWFAG".

So you and you're gay OP boyfriend can both either lurk more or fuck off back to reddit.

hello transhumanist egoist scum
KYS

MIGHT MAKES RIGHT

it is not contradictory and support can have different meaning depending on the scale we talk to. In the case of incompatibility politics of life, the locality of health support rule is to prioritize the smaller and closer group. It depends on the situation.

These are the best of slaves.

meme-philosopher, so is neetchee

Aristotle would murder christians

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Really, then why is everyone on the bible a kike?

Gay

christians stood against everything Aristotle stood for. Christians would see Greeks dead and their civilization crumble, as they finally did. Aristotle had a hostile view of barbarians, he thought they should be treated as lesser men. If they were to improve, Greeks should civilize them. Now, lesser men, hating his gods, his civilisation, even his work, trying to take over his fatherland would result in him advocating mass murders of christians.

He may be a newfag, but he's a newfag that makes an important point. Religious vs. non-religious virtue is a fracture point for D&C among this community, and the derailing hyperkike I was responding to is a prime example of that.

A drive to unite and instill virtue in people here is a pretty good fucking idea. You'd do well to restrain your autism and listen to shit like this, instead of jizzing all over your tendies because of "muh Holla Forums identity". Stop being a clique obsessed nigger.

Fucking pedos. Every. Single. Time. They believe they can slip pedo-normalization past us…

Then that means you can't think clearly enough about the implications of what you write and are too intrinsically inept to be touting universal "pol" gas yourself tenets. Sexuality must be in the public sphere insofar as there must be strong cultural opposition to the degenerate sexual agenda as pushed by kikes.

Also, you forgot "gas the kikes, race war now".

Sage for shit thread from shitposting newfag.

You stand out like a sore thumb by arguing semantics and trying to derail by shouting pedo.

Gas yourself

I hold reason in high regard, not idolatry.

Good goy, don't reproduce

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Age of consent laws are actually a relativity recent development in western history.

I take it that you didn't intend to reinforce my point, but you did it anyway. I'd say gas yourself, but the Reich put simpletons like you to sleep as a mercy.

The attempt to render sexuality a "nontopic" only aids the kike agenda of degeneracy by providing cover for them to act unopposed behind the scenes. A virtuous culture will always be frank about sexuality—clearly defining what is approved and what is degenerate.

You would do well to cite well known examples to support your argument. Take art for example, Dante's Beatrice or Novalis' Sophie, the 18th century obsession with the goddess Hebe.

1. Aristotle's virtue ethics are the foundation of Western civilization and a sound guide for judging and building character.
2. The entire purpose and prestige of marriage rests in its generation of healthy, well-adjusted citizens with strong bonds to their biological parents.
3. Sexuality is a distraction that should be kept from the public sphere.
4. It is natural and completely acceptable that everyone supports their blood kinsfolk and native culture over others.
5. There. Are. No Good Jews.

capped for future reference.

Maybe it should read "extroverted sexuality is a distraction"

I'm going to risk being piled on and say that I don't see anything inherently bad in porn itself. That is to say that I don't really object to people reading erotica or looking at nude images of the opposite sex. My problem with porn is that it is filmed prostitution. It ruins men and women, puts money directly in the hands of Jews and some of the most unscrupulous elements of our societies, and encourages some of the worst vices and sins imaginable (e.g. cuckoldry, which has (((taken off))) in recent years).

What I wouldn't have a problem with (at least not on a state or legal level) is young women putting nude photos on the internet, erotic literature, racy cartoons, softcore stuff, or married couples putting their sex tapes out online. If a young couple decides to create a porn film involving only each other I don't see the need to legislate it.

Worth noting that the power to censor porn is not a power I'd trust in the hands of governments anyway.

Fuck off back to your containment threads.

The fracture point is religion itself, not "religious vs. non-religious virtue." Nobody on Holla Forums can be of any religion except Eastern ones without getting shitposted into oblivion. I fucking dare you to say the word "Christian," for example, and try to have a decent thread. Pro-tip: you won't.

Obsessive sexuality, maybe.

Obsession in general is bad, m80.

That doesn't answer my question though. The bible has more kikes in it than a NewYork bagel shop?

True, but obsession with sex tends to be particularly cancerous.

Go ask your "question" in the containment threads.

Well no shit. Also, that argument is used by leftycucks to stir the hornet's nest. Christanty is a western value that has been suberted by kikes a long time ago. Should we abandon science since it's in the same boat? Also,

M8 if this thread derails into religious shitposting I'm blaming you.

Are you not using a VPN? And why are you supporting kikes, its a fare question? you seem like a shill in all honesty?

I can't say that I have ever heard a single leftist attacking Christianity due to it's Semitic origins.

Are you telling that lessons in western religion isn't a virtue?

Until you get to a point where the religious begin to impose their religion onto others. They can't not do it. The goal of proselytizing religions is conversion. That's why it's a fracture point. The push is always happening. It's why the GOP started losing power when they began pandering to Evangelicals. Part of the pandering was attempting to makes laws based on their religion. People got sick of it.

I'm telling you to go back to your containment threads, because what you post and the discussion you invite
Not to mention it's off topic. Or do I have you figured wrong that you'd start posting about "Semitic religions," "kike on a stick," "typical Christian," and other memes before inviting your pro-Christian shill friends to come over to shit up the thread with your pretend debates?

Buddy, if you're been on Holla Forums longer than a month you know that we can't have a good discussion religion here. You're welcome to try, but I guarantee you you'll end up in a world of shitposting.

Go ahead. Try to discuss Western religions. Don't call me a shill for warning you about what's to come though.

This. The religious zealots don't value anything more than their religion, and can't accept not forcing people to convert.

I feel your pain op, I've been posting on Holla Forums for a decade and I had this same shit happen to me not long ago. Syntaxfags need to figure out when an innocent mistake is made, check it but don't dwell on it… and focus on things that are important. Board culture IS important, to their point, but emphasis on syntax is a "form over function" mistake that is used to break apart threads like this with good ideas.

Solution:

Unfortunately its not likely this thread will benefit us much given the delegitimization campaign… carried out by relatively new Holla Forums and shills alike seizing the opportunity to effectively derail the thread. Better luck next time.

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Incorrect. The smallest blood kinsfolk unit possible is the family (father, mother, & children) since the folk in kinsfolk implies multiple people.

As for the use of the word support, preference would probably be a more appropriate choice as it does not imply an active action but rather that when faced with a decision, a given person will side with those with closer blood kinship.

The fracture point is religion itself, not "religious vs. non-religious virtue."

Since this is a thread about secular virtue, the particular thing I was talking about was the false idea you can't be good without religion. Religion has many components, one of which is Philosophy, but Philosophy is all that's required to achieve morality.

That's alright, I don't want to talk about religion. I want to talk about secular ideals that can form a cohesive group. Maybe we can find enough common ground to work towards what we all need.

There's always a push from every direction to implement bad ideas. You just gotta set some boundaries, and tell those people why those ideas are bad and possibly dumb.

That's why feminism has gotten to the point it has, because nobody wants to call out dumb ideas from a woman they're hoping they can fuck.