Doom 4

Never Again

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Player created maps were a mistake

Underagers, leave

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that's a pretty fucking hilarious video at the least.
you can feel the contempt.

There is a general

Most sandboxs have a big problem where there is no limit to what can be spawned in allowing for the game to be overload and crash, example Gmod.

Nope DOOM prevents this by having handy percentages so no player is left out and unable to run the random assortment of premade tiles that a someone has created.

At least the scripting tools are… there? So you can script all 12 of your demons to do a thing, assuming you saved space for the scripts.

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Why the fuck do we even need a new DOOM game when the Original DOOM/DOOM II modding community is so big?

SLAUGHTERMAPS ARE SHIT

SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT

GET OUT YOU FUCKING FAGGOT LAMERS

the prequel :v}

I don't get it… If there can only be 12 demons at a time anyway… Why is there a limit of 64?

Silly user, there is no modding community. :^)

Never Forget.

Also

Yes, i know the game needs a proper SDK, but Holla Forums's hatred of D44M is becoming ridiculous.

SnapMap was developed by the hacks at Certain Affinity, that's why it's garbage

Because terrible programming.

it's not just in snap map, there isn;t more than 12 demons at once in the entire campaign

it's slow and has shit music and bad weapon balance and can't support enough enemies and it's easy as hell until the last difficulty which is one hit death
how about you tell me what's good about it, instead

where do you think you are user?

i forgot to mention the worst thing which is that it's a fucking fps made for consoles

Old Doom engine could have 128 enemy sprites. Granted 3D engines have there limitations but it has far exceeded the number of a measly 12 and with the right code optimization you could have as many as your computer could handle if you wanted.

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Its just the butthurt pirate fags.

Are you serious? I dont know if Doom 3 had that restriction but Doom 2 in particular didnt have that restriction I think.

And Serious Sam blows D44M out of the water in that regard

get out

You can't be any more obvious.

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yes because I'm sooo butthurt over a game I didn't even want to play in the first place, let alone pirate :^)

D44M is shit for more reasons than just enemy limitations

Skyrim/Doom Crossover when?

it already happened

FUS ROH DAH

HAH THERE IS AN ARROW IN IT'S KNEE HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I remember reading somewhere that the lore explanation for having so few demons was that Doomguy killed most of them. A good cover up for a shitty limit

Has the game been cracked yet?

Why the hell can't Doomguy just be a badass human?

Do you eat shit?

Just watch it on youtube
effectively the same thing

daily reminder

Its not ebin

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Yes

didn't one of the lead devs of the original Doom say 'Plot in a video game is like Story in Porn'

this is what he ment.

This can't be real.

But FullMcIntosh cried giant salty tears about NuDoom's reveal at E3 while pretending to be a girl again. Is the perfect feminist utopia that they dream of not as important as those checks from bethesda?

A good plot in a porno makes the whole thing more arousing, as long as its told quickly and doesn't interrupt the wanking.

The think that pisses me off is when they get out of character when they start fucking.

It completely ruins the plot and it might as well have not existed.

But then again porn is degenerate garbage that I need to eliminate in my life so I can lead a virtuous life.

th-thanks

I quit it for two years and now I'm back please kill me

That's not healthy.

you know, I kind of wanted this game… I don't any more.

Side note, are the Doom comics any good?

Doom comic. It's on Doomworld. It'll take ten minutes to read.

You're an idiot and misinterpreting Carmack's quote. He wasn't saying all story should be disregarded no matter how stupid or shitty it is, he was saying that the plot of a game should be simple and only used as a set up to get to the action

When you're watching porn you already know what you're in for, the "story" is only to set up the events about to unfold. A game is similar, you only need a basic premise or introduction before you begin playing. Trying to throw the plotholes or retardation of D44M's narrative away by just saying "well it doesn't matter anyway" is a cheap throwaway and a shitty excuse to handwave anything dumb done by the writers

Doom comic was a mistake.

awesome, thanks for the help. Guess I'll read that then follow the guide in the Doom Thread. I've played Brutal Doom but a lot of people here say that mod is pretty shitty so I suppose I've never gotten a decent Doom experience.

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It's better than Doom Slayer the Hedgehog

enjoy your ban

people who are telling you that brutal doom is shitty just hate fun

It gets spoilered by the mods, newfag.

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Brutal Doom is pretty mixed, purists hate it while others like it, I didn't mind it, there were things I liked about it and things I felt ruined the pacing. I think a lot hate it because it got so popular and you can't talk about Doom without someone coming in and telling everyone how great it is

Point.

Could the original doom run that wad back in when it came out?

I HURT MYSELF TODAY

64 Revenants and 21 Empty Rooms? Yes.
100,000 Revenants and 3 Rooms? Yes.

The problem isnt the mod itself.
Problem is the people treating it as Vanilla+ when its not and people who never played Vanilla.
Its like the faggots who only ever played Misery mod for S.T.A.L.K.E.R.

Mostly thanks to them coupled with barely any standarts, people are praising this shitty reebot.

Brutal Doom on itself is a wonderful mod and can be modified to the players needs at will unlike NuDoomed.

That goes for people bitching about it as well.

Also, the modder never crediting anyone he steals assets from and treating his mod like the best thing ever.

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Yes, though it would slow to sub 1 FPS on the vanilla engine. Also the vanilla game has a on screen sprite limit of 128, some you'd have a invisible enemies and projectiles.

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Very nice

*people who have played the original recognize it as being much more casual than the original

Nobody thinks that.
People are pointing out fan tools are better than official dev tools.

there was some guy who made some shitty image defending DooD and pointed out the "differences between" doom and DooD, which he pointed out that there's a map editor for the original doom, which he was wrong

Didn't see it in this thread, sorry for the immediate hostility friendo.

Lol fucking contrarian poor hipster nostalgiafags

gee then I wonder what romero was doing on his computer

thats the one, nice

Using official dev tools that weren't released for public use.

This one is actually slightly modified.
Only one cross was in the original, that obviously being the 90s one

No fucking shit?


In the defense of the image, it only says 'free tools', not that it was packaged with an editor.

yeah you can obviously tell


using his own dev tools at the time. the source code was released way after its launch


If that's the case, doom 4's doesn't have a free as in freedom tool.

>doom 4's doesn't have a free as in freedom tool
I hurt myself today

Because what the fuck kind of Judaism would it be to have to pay for the privilege of doing the developers' job for them?


Ah, but that's the crux of it. Even though Doom never actually had official editing tool releases, unlike Zenimax Doom (and so, so much of modern videogaming) it was always built on the principle of being able to be edited - that gets discussed briefly in Masters of Doom, that John Carmack was inspired by the way people were editing Wolfenstein 3D despite how poorly it was built in regard to editing.

Well, they were last year. But otherwise you're right.

I knew that a few dev tools were released last year, but I couldn't remember whether or not the level editor was too. It seems kind of obvious in retrospect, but still.

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You actually think thr retard who drew this played vanilla for any substancial amount of time?

I was about to call bullshit, but I guess you're right about ONE part of your post.

very nice meme

oh I'm sorry, I left my macbook with duckduckgo set up as the default search engine on Chrome in my other pants.

If the guy actually played the vanilla game then he would not have made that picture.

you fucked up even more

$$$$$$$

my apologies, but the Win10 tablet that was given to me by an NSA agent is at the shop right now

Video was made in 2016, but we'll assume that the recording was done a year earlier, to be conservative.

Top-tier video card in 2015, when then video was made:

Top-tier video card in 1994, when Doom 2 was released:

So take those 100,000 Revenants, divide by a conservative mean difference in hardware stats of 2,000, and you get an estimate of 50 Revenants being the 1994 limit-pushing count.

In 2038 we'll probably have "100,000 Revenants - A Doom 4 Map", when that game is two decades old.

Except we won't actually because we're looking at the limitations of software being locked-down to its users, you dumbass, not at the limitations of [current year] hardware capability.

That's a source port, the vanilla engine can't handle that many enemy sprites. The limit is 128.

You're mistaken. The limit is 128 sprites visible. There's no upper limit on number of enemies. But you can only show 128 enemies at once, otherwise enemies start to flicker in and out as the engine continues to try and show them all, thus making one enemy invisible for a second to show another, etc.

Your assumptions are stupid a toaster can run that Revenant map.

Reported for posting nuDoom shit outside of it's containment thread.

Plus that.

So his dead son was the severed head of John Romero?, this sounds more and more retarded when you think about it.

That's some donutsteel tier lore right there.

Brutal Doom as a gameplay mod isn't awful, it's just overrated as hell and obnoxiously tryhard while people call it THE DEFINITIVE DOOM EXPERIENCE when it's really not.

It is now

I HURT MYSELF TODAY

But Brutal Doom didn't have canned animation cutscenes every five seconds, progression systems, console design limitations, dumbed down AI, "console wheel" free-bullet-time interfaces, pause menu walls of text, audio logs, or the backing of a company worse than EA.

only Bethesda can do that

pic related, cute girls for anyone seeking unrustlement after that

It has less than 900 viewers on twitch now.
This game is dying fast as fuck.
Faster than Doom 3.

It was expected though.
People play the campaign once or twice and never pick it up again.
Like Uncharted.

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BUT UNCHARTED GAMES ARE MASTERPIECES! THAT'S WHY CRIT1KAL IS WRONG!!

Seriously though, there's nothing memorable about modern games. When they all play the same way, nothing is amazing anymore. If games could stop trying to recreate each other ad nauseum and we could get some uniqueness that would be nice.

doom 3 had a modding scene tho

You sure are making a great service

Speaking of Doom 3, any notable mods for it besides The Dark Mod?

Oh, that reminds me, maybe I'll go back a-
Huh. E-excuse me. ;_;7

oh, nevermind, results that are actually about Dungeon Doom just don't start appearing until page 2.

any of the "let's remake classic doom campaign inside doom 3" mods
duck nukem

Who are these semen demons?


Only the 12 hour singleplayer is worth playing and the editor is garbage.
Everyones moving to Overwatch for flavour of the month bullshit now.
That ones going to last longer, Blizzard fans are even more autistic than Bethcucks.

Nuts.wad existed for the original doom
You can't even make that in nuDoom

they're robot lesbian and other robot lesbian from the new award winning anime from the creators of GitS and Excel Saga

Hexen Doom 3

Also there was this one map where you get enemies constantly thrown at you (spawning enemies) but you also got powerups the better you did, my PC couldn't handle it at the time, I wonder how it would do nowadays.

Fucking look it up faggot
Its literally written on the image
Emphasis in literally
nyantype

nyantype is just a magazine, try again

Slaughter maps in NuDoom can't even work the same as Doom, the former does not have monster infighting.

It has scripted infighting, on very few occasions.

Fuck me, of course it doesn't.

OH THE JOYS OF A CONSOLE GAME

snapmap is literally worse than level editor from timesplitters ps2 game

Ok user, i just went out of my way to get the characters names

The general is here

Thanks
Now I can actually search
still cant find shit


Didnt even know that shit spelled Nyan, Im not versed in nip.
Thats also obviously the magazines name.

I think Ill find it eventually thanks to the clues thought.

DOLLJOINTS?

yeah, dolljoints. problem?

the only way we're getting loli fanserive now save for shomin sample

WE CANT HAVE THOSE MOVIESATIONS MELTING DOWN CAN WE

But is it good?

is nyantype like newtype except with qt lolis?

No, because the limitations are obviously software set, as a computer could obviously run it with more than 64 enemies, different non-premade rooms, and etc.

Ah, what am I saying, you're obviously a paid shill.

Yeah, I just remembered that one, it was so long ago.

Just as predicted on the general during release, nuDoom would become irrelevant till the end of the month and barely nobody would remember about or it would be irrelevant.
Guess thats the price of sucking the AAA dick while shilling for it, plus 60 bucks and season pass, goy

That gif looks awful.

Hope so. Recently started playing (((WolfenGoldenstein))) the New Order. It's 200% mediocre CoD crap. Yet in 2014 TotalAssCancer and Betheshezeh droogs where sucking it off as the savior of FPS.

wolfenstein 2009 is the best wolfenstein game so far

OY VEY GOYIM REMEMBER THE 6 ZILLION!

ET was decent and it was released for free, i couldn't imagine paying full price for that

TBH I'll say it wasn't worth the 60 dollars that I didn't even spend, and I saved my shekels by not having to pay for it, however, Singleplayer was the only thing I played so far and might try out MP because finally the single weapon loadout of SSG on every map is no more, and Snapmap looks like it's fucking horrible, I mean jesus christ how dare someone make a god damn map set on their own without being hand held? Literally everything about Snapmap is wrong and should have had more time in the oven before coming out raw

loadouts
bullshit
it's the same that's been going around for a while
I have to buy the game to create maps

Damn it, man, so that's the one!
I've been looking for it for a while, thinking the name was more like "mortar", so the obvious non-results were.
All I remember were dem reflections, I want to try it again so I can finally play it with an adult mind, and enjoy it.
Also, dem reflections on the floor.

You can remove the second option from Doomguy too because he doesn't fights on Mars but its moons, Phobos and Deimos. Don't know about the DOODMOOM guy.

you rang?
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Yeah, the other one either

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brutal doom is ok
Holla Forums is actually right when they say project brutality is 10x better though