The Original Commie MRA, Ernest Belfort Bax

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The reason why this will never go away is because it's not an idea but a fact. Humans are sexually dimporhic, women are the weaker sex. Human males will naturally protect and white knight females, it will always be that way. Even if women are 100% legally equal (which I agree with) and 100% intellectual equal, it won't change human survival instincts. Men are big and strong, they want to protect women. Women are weak and small, they will go cowering to their men if another man threatens them. Humans of both sexes are opportunistic. If a woman can simultaneously convince men she should be equal yet be treated special then she will use it to her full advantage.

It's just the way of the world, no matter how much society pretends it doesn't care about gender or sex it will always be a driving issue in society. Now that's not to mean we shouldn't try to make things more fair, but you have to realize we're pushing a rock up an infinite hill.

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Women and Men have the same IQ. One of them has less muscle, who gives a fuck. You give both equal opportunity and let them follow suit.

It's your biology to slowly die, might as well shape your social role on it. You'll have the most to say in your teenage years, any year past that you'll be more and more ignored and given less power.

Just makes sense, no? Biology.

Also, if you're not physically strong, you'll have nothing to say, at all. At any point in your life. Average male isn't strong, only bodybuilders will have a say.

BIOLOGY RIGHT? Idiot.

I never said otherwise. But men having more muscle goes back to when humans needed it for survival. Just because you put humans in a modern setting doesn't mean our primal instincts suddenly vanish. Men where the bread winners and hunters and woman stayed at home at nursed the kids. This mentality continues to this day and it's a natural one that people find hard to shake, despite conditioning to think otherwise. Despite living in a post-feminist society women still like having dinners paid for them and being given expensive jewelry. Men still like holding the door open and fending other guys off who make passes at them. It doesn't matter how much society or an individual wills it, gender is largely hardwired and people like to conform to their gender roles. Hence why, as the original post I responded to, " The idea that women are fragile and need to be protected" persists.

I don't understand why this is such a hard concept to grasp.

Stronger comparably to the average woman. I don't understand you're point. I never said men should be the rulers because we're strong, simply that women are the perceived weaker gender in society because they factually are. I think you fucks were actually triggered by my ironic "patriarchy card" image and didn't bother to read what I wrote.

A "natural one" that you don't want anyone to shake, while trying to condition others to accept it. You're saying that it's all conditioning (environmental factors leading to change), yet appeal to nature when you try to defend it in a setting which is no longer relevant to the material conditions you posit existed in the past which shaped these views. Which did not, either, require to take on the specific impression you're insinuating.

In a community setting, it was more common for child rearing to be done by the community as a whole. "Hunter Gatherer" appeals are regional dependant (was there more wild game, what sort, what kind of fruit and vegetables existed, etc. Did they consist of nomads that moved from seasonal harvesting area, to area, or were they as you suppose solely grasping at - in desperation, any and all things they could find to eat instead of starving.)

You for one horribly romanticising the past, for twos completely disregarding your own cognitive dissonance in insisting upon natural behavior coming from material relations that no longer exist, but still trying to appeal to it as natural, and for threes upset that others are not accepting your intent of conditioning people to accept without fail - your view of how people should be and how people should live and how people should coexist in intimate relationships, while railing against any other attempt at conditioning people.

Instead of merely shutting the fuck up, living like you wish in a relationship with someone who wants to live the same way you do, and stop pestering others on how they should live just like you, in a good old traditional relationship where the woman does this and the man does that and everyone just obeys you.

tl;dr: You're an idiot, mate.

You're really citing the fact that gender roles still exist in what you arbitrarily define as a "post-feminist" society as evidence for their eternal inevitability?

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