Holla Forums invades Holla Forums

GTFO Holla Forums with your waaaaa no gf based ideology.
We've not capitalism to rein in.

Communist aren't against natural hierarchies. They're against institutionalized ones that require the state to enforce. In primitive communism what the alpha was able to procure with the help of his subordinates was shared among them according to who put in the most work. And at any time, a subordinate could challenge the alpha for his role based on merit alone. Your whole idea of "le capitalist hierarchy" is natural presupposes that capitalism is a meritocracy, which it isn't.

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good fucking point man, you really outwitted me on that one

boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/90156002/the-stupidest-actual-arguments-against-communism

whoops I forgot to link the glorious cringe thread.

Please if you want to bring up an argument, read the thread first cause it most likely has been countered.

Not once did I mention capitalism. But Capitalism does have some elements of a meritocracy. CEO's have higher than average IQs more often than not
You kind of described a CEO.
They may not do low tier labor, but they are more important than easily replaceable assembly line workers. They allocate resources to the company's priorities and set the general direction of the company's labor; way more demanding than simple work.

Chuckled

Holy shit, are some retarded shitskin bitch? Your fucktarded posts say yes.

Why address a non-argument with an argument?

It's funny how the whole argument for fascism can be alwats summarized in sex tho

the whole argument for fascism is "Don't have sex with someone I don't want you to have sex with"

like, it really makes you think

yes by no virtue of their own, but by preexisting material conditions which allowed them additional opportunities in life over others, or simply gave them a competitive edge over others.
all done by the board of directors who at the end of the day don't give a fuck about you, the worker or the country, just reaching their bottom line so they can accumulate more capital. There is nothing natural about capitalism as it inverts the relationships between people and things, and its entire hierarchical structure is based on the accumulation of wealth, not virtue of being superior.

Why cuck/pol/?

K, famalandingo.

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Genetics mostly genetic

"Can parents make their kids smarter? New research published in the journal Intelligence suggests they can’t influence intelligence— at least beyond their genetic contribution.

To answer the oft-asked question, professors at Florida State University, the University of Nebraska, West Illinois University, King Abdulaziz in Saudi Arabia, and Erasmus University in the Netherlands used an adoption-based research design.

The study authors drew participants from a representative sample of between 5,500-7,000 non-adopted youth and a sample of between 250-300 adopted children from the National Longitudinal Study of Adolescent Health.

Researchers first administered a Picture Vocabulary Test (PVT) to middle and high school students and then repeated the test when the participants were between the ages of 18 and 26. The PVT served as an IQ test in which participants had to identify photos of people, places and things. Researchers also analyzed their parents’ behaviors.

Researchers found that parental socialization had no detectable influence on children’s intelligence later in life.

“Previous research that has detected parenting-related behaviors affect intelligence is perhaps incorrect because it hasn’t taken into account genetic transmission,” study author Kevin Beaver, a criminology professor at FSU, said in a press release.

Some studies suggest that parents who interact with their kids over family dinners or by reading them bedtimes stories can boost their children’s IQ, while other research suggests that children’s IQs are only a product of their genetics.

Analyzing children who shared no DNA with their adoptive parents eliminated the possibility that parental socialization influenced a child’s intelligence.

“In previous research, it looks as though parenting is having an effect on child intelligence, but in reality the parents who are more intelligent are doing these things and it is masking the genetic transformation of intelligence to their children,” Beaver said.

Beaver noted that the findings don’t suggest that parents shouldn’t engage with their children, but rather that parents don’t have to go to extremes to influence their offspring.

“The way you parent a child is not going to have a detectable effect on their IQ as long as that parenting is within normal bounds,” Beaver said.

The study is published in the November-December 2014 issue of the journal Intelligence."

What does this have to do with material conditions? Poor food, poor housing, poor schooling, etc are all shown to have effects on IQ. This didn't even say the way you raise a child socially doesn't effect IQ, it just said it wasn't a significant factor "so long as parenting was within normal bounds".

fascism is all about "m-muh genotype" the only way to affect it is to have sex with some with with another gneotype

fascism is literally a virgin-tier ideology at its core, it is basing its whole ideological apparatus on sex

I was looking for the actual stupid non-sensical capitalist propaganda arguments people actually hold, because I believe those are the most cancerous, and at the same time, easiest to combat with logic and factual evidence.

I am compiling rhetoric for a video where I explain and walk people through communism, and all the fallacies they bring along without knowing its just bourgois'ganda

This is Dido Harding.
She is the CEO of Stalk Stalk.
She has the IQ of a shoe.
Your arguments are invalid.

sciencenewsforstudents.org/article/iq-genes

flynn effect

/your argument

Doesn't sound like it.

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Defending your capitalist oppressors THIS hard.

Oh so you thought the real Holla Forums would provide even better arguments. Gotcha

You retard, average IQ is dropping.
theglobeandmail.com/life/the-hot-button/how-clever-are-you-western-iqs-dropping-new-study-says/article12226027/

Going through that thread it looks like you got pretty roasted tbh. Perhaps if you were less condescending and more matter of fact about things you would have converted some people.

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Of course the person following an unscientific ideology like socialism is going to get roasted, even by the retards at halfchan.

You do realize that they're arguing against communism, not for capitalism right?

If you read the Holla Forums thread you actually see where Holla Forums comes together and outlines their ideology.

basically "im not rascist cause I have an asian fetish" "what no blacks are biologically inferior, its not about racism"

p-pls d-do not have sex with t-hat woman!! because "MUH GENES"

pls stop having sex because that is degenerate and that really hurt my feelings !!!!!

my autism is getting TRIGGERED because someone is having sex with someone outside their race pls stop this !!!!

are they using the same IQ as in the vicotiran era??

ok into the trash

dudes a political economic genius….oh wait nevermind cough*Brexit* cough

you just gave us the ammo to shoot you with, cmon man you can do better than that

Don't blame me when your kid's goes insane and commits a mass shooting because he's an abomination. I'm sure your kid will be fine with his immune system attacking his own body because his mother and father have tons of non-paring alleles. I'm sure he'll be fine with with the inevitable insanity.

cambridgecognition.com/tests/simple-reaction-time-srt
Soooo, they deduce a drop in IQ by testing reflexes? Wtf is this shit?

He was outmatched by Farage. It's like calling someone a pussy because they got beaten up by Mike Tyson.

honestly didn't know what to expect. Although the irony being that these people actually believe in those arguments

a small group

a lot of them, I bet even in the millions

woopz woopz sorry I tought your whole argument againts "irrelevant shiting" was about childern becomeing an abomination and becoming insane sounds like your whole argument makes no sense wanna try again bucko three's the charm

top kek

based BO

sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/08/080817223530.htm
aacap.org/AACAP/Families_and_Youth/Facts_for_Families/FFF-Guide/Multiracial-Children-071.aspx

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Especially since Philosophy, Politics and Economics (PPE) at Oxford, is THE degree all establishment members study just for the sake of going to university.

Then how come the median IQ of the british household jumped from 84 back in the mid twentieth century to 99-102 by the late twentieth century? How come African migrants despite being nearly one standard deviation lower than native blacks in the US are much more academically accomplished than them on average. The buying power that the wealthy elite possesses allows them the best possible conditions to shape their offspring so they grow to become better than their predecessors.

This also does not address the fundamental problem of capitalism at hand; even if we were to accept the premise that intelligence is the be all end all arbiter of life how come businesses who bring in the most amount of wealth and control the most amount of power employ people much smarter than them to work under them? How come people like Newton who were nothing more than bitch boys are slaves to the system of banks, and the flow of capital?

Intelligence has no bearing on determining the value of a person in society, nor should it restrict them from having the same economic factors of life as everyone else.

im not gonna be a pussy, I call them out on their blatant lies, everyone of course was trying to roast, but If you follow each argument, they are the ones that lose to their own logic. Go ahead read that shit, they literally are debating themselves half the time while I just define the words they are using.

That study wasn't taken seriously and used dubious methodology. According to the r/K selection theory, if the IQ's of whites was really diminishing on the scale you're claiming(14 points) you would expect birth rates to be going up, not down.

Furthermore, our current culture where people don't really read and just spend time on their computer playing games, on Facebook etc, has been proposed as an explanation by Flynn for the small loss in IQ we have seem to experienced recently.

I don't need to post the hundreds of masacres, wars, thefts, manslaughters and so on made by people whom belong to the similar "race" since the dawn of times because I know you know your history

historical facts > a couple fo studies with no real life relevance

top kek Holla Forums autist

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They obviously have relevance since tons of mixed kids are suffering from mental issues because their looser parents couldn't breed within their own race.

irrelevant compared to the tens of thousands "pure blooded" people killed during wars between people and tribes whom all belong to the same "race"

try trying harder

War is usually the result of circumstances beyond the control of the common man, this is irreverent when talking about mental health.

First its Communism killed 100 billions

Now its MIXED RACE MURDERERS

I bet this is a sad reaction to colin kaepernick cause this is the first time im hearing this load of bull fucking shit

Seems like these looser parents were raised by looser parents who were pure blooded in the first place. Seems like the actual progenitor of these mental illnesses is in the fact that they aren't raised properly.

war is the result of the relationship between men, pure blodded tribes have gone to war despite all of them sahring the same genotype

black on black, white on white, asian on asian (and so on) crime exist

sorry your argument is flawed

MIXED RACE JEWISH MEXICAN COMMUNIST KILLED 34596725 BILLIONS OF BILLIONS OF WHITE INOOCENT CHRISTIAN (PROTESTANT) CHILDREN

AMERICANS BEWARE

n IQ test used to determine whether Danish men are fit to serve in the military has revealed scores have fallen by 1.5 points since 1998. And standard tests issued in the UK and Australia echo the results, according to journalist Bob Holmes, writing in New Scientist.

Why? Some suggest we have reached our intellectual peak as a species.

Between the 1930s and 1980s, the average IQ score in the US rose by three points and in post-war Japan and Denmark, test scores also increased significantly — a trend largely tied to improved nutrition, living conditions, and better education.

But the new findings suggest that, since the 1980s, IQ scores are not just leveling off, but declining.

newsmax.com/health/Health-News/iq-dumber-scores-declinine/2014/08/21/id/590187/

unc.edu/news/archives/oct03/udry10302003.html
Sure, there are mono-racial criminals, but mixed individuals are far more likely to to be criminals But there's not as many of them out there because most people are more attracted to their own because of their natural instincts.

Does that mean Danish men who were native to the area or immigrants who have lower national IQ's and have not been subject to the Flynn effects benefits?

Computers have also diminished the reading ability of young boys, which was postulated by Flynn as a potential explanation for the slight decline we have seen.

eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2014-08/uog-cgg082814.php

Computers have a positive effect on literacy, dumbass. In the modern world you're required to use them daily, and you have to read to use them.

this says nothing about WHY mixed race children are more likely to display these attributes

The amount of people who read books has diminished significantly.

cry more google

ok, have these statistics

*every major and minor conflict bewteen humans belonging to trhe same race since the danws of time*

sorry, the number is still higher than some cherrypicked group from inside america

try trying again plz

We have a hierarchy right now, you fucking retard. It is called "Did you go to an elite college?"

The hierarchy we currently have is just one that you do not like because you feel that you are not in your rightful place, and that you ought to be above the blacks, or whatever. We are all niggers under global capitalism. The ruling class does not give a shit about your race's average IQ or what you think your rightful place is, and why should they? They are multi-racial and view the population as a bunch of idiots whose emotions they somehow have to manage in order to maintain their class power.

Fuck £££wordfilters$$$* they are retarded.
When I write "That's not socialism", people might think I wrote "That's nati0nal s0cialism" when I intended to negate the claim that it's socialism.

* I call them porkish echo or porkbells.

What about Mao? Venezuela?

Venezuela is a regular banana republic with a red rhetoric. It's economic system is capitalist as it's core.
I don't know enough about Mao's economic policies.

What, like filtering cumskin to white?

fucking retard

I like that one-liner. We should use it more often.

Will we all be little girls under global communism?

Those who want to be, will. The others will be kept around so that we still have an ample supply of dicks.

sauce?
(i want to use this in agruments

No.
It is your own responsibility to look after, and ergo defend yourself.
Gangs work for porkies, i.e. Boys in Blue, Bikies, Triads, Yakuza, Gangstas, Mafia all work for cash(trust) and reputation(trust). do not rely on them.

Considering Intelligence requires objective thought and reason, Holla Forums yesterday went to analyze the works of Scott Adam, and came to the conclusion that organisms that focus more on acquiring darwinian fitness survive better than organisms based in reality. Does that not agree with your statement?

muh "everything will be fixed with muh gunz" retard detected

muh Brady Campaign-tier gungrabber detected
>>>/reddit/
Go support tribal feudalism elsewhere.

Holla Forumstard arrested for threatening Jewish village.
youtube.com/watch?v=U2PhmPBX12I

end urself and not even memeing about this fam

School shootings have nothing to do with the NRA and lobbyists, and everything to do with alienated children expressing their repression through violence in a way that is sensationalized by the media.

the idea that a buying a gun and starting a "school shooting" is a legitmate way of venting your repression is what is alienating them

You need education and training to own a gun, this doesn't mean you shouldn't have the right to own weapons and have the right to proper education regarding guns

98% of rightists don't know what communism memes

You're full of shit, buddy. I generally agree with having a minimum of safety training and a giant warning signs check for buying a gun, but if you don't recognize America-style mass murders as a symptom of pure alienation, you're retarded.

Furthermore, almost none of the recent shooters would have been stopped by a mental illness check, and it's not even mental illness causing this. It's people who have been backed up against a wall and have absolutely nobody to turn to. Elliot Rodger is a textbook case of this. You do understand what alienation means, right? You aren't stray liberal that just wandered in, are you? The presence of guns isn't alienating, look at Switzerland or Kurdistan. In the former case, a majority of working-age adults have assault rifles in their homes. How much mass murder do you think they see?

Sure, America has a lot of guns, but something to note is that they aren't evenly distributed - the guns per capita is inflated by the fact that a relatively small amount of people own a large amount of guns. Secondly, what sets America apart from the rest of the world isn't the number of guns so much as the fact that it is the most alienating society on earth.

And you've got to face it, gun control whenever it has been implemented has been enforced disproportionately against poor, working-class people and especially minorities (American Blacks are probably the biggest victims of this - funny thing is that the NRA actually supported gun control when the law was aimed at Black Panthers in particular.) Take away the guns, and the desperate violence still won't go anywhere - it might get smaller in scale (bear in mind you will not be able to take away the guns, it's pointless to even try), so you might see more instances of a student stabbing a teacher and then taking their own lives or killing their parents or burning their houses down or what have you. It will be less dramatic, sure, but no less of a problem.

I see a lot of liberals pushing this mental illness thing as if to suggest that the people committing these acts are abnormal or acting irrationally. Nothing could be further from the truth - they are acting exactly like any sane human being in their situation would. In this sense, the 2nd Amendment is working fucking perfectly. These people are using their right to bear arms for its intended purpose - no, they're not a group of citizens banding together with a principle cause in mind, fighting against an oppressor. They are nihilistic loners attacking a society that has failed them, that has taken from them their pride and their livelihoods. They are rebelling against the omnipresent tyranny of capitalism, even if they themselves do not know it. And it's going to keep happening and keep getting worse and worse, until either everything burns down or society is reordered.

I think, in a way, that the founding fathers may have foreseen this, slave-owning bunch of pricks that they were. Even if they didn't, it's nice to imagine, because it's fairly elegant in its functioning. When everyone is armed, a society that tramples upon the human spirit will inevitably destroy itself. Want to know how to end this? End capitalism, end the school shootings. It's that simple.

This is, in essence, nothing less than anticapitalist terrorism, carried out unconsciously. If the rising terror leads people to the truth, then all those deaths would have at least been for something.

Incidentally, speaking of colonial history, I think you could make the case that America's myth of the bootstrap meritocracy can be traced back to the period in the nation's history when just about any dingdong actually could through working as a wage labourer for a little bit acquire land and workers and become a bourgy landowner himself, something which was impossible in Europe. Of course, this changed once all the land was bought up and the face of society changed, but the myth persists.

Make love with your sister. You kids will be true aryan.

And which chromosome controls the making of machines, idiot?

nice try plum pie

Actually now that I think about it, it's possible that there are more alienating societies in East Asia - China, South Korea and Japan in particular. They're also considerably more authoritarian and have strict arms controls. They've still got this sort of violence, only it is usually directed against the self and the family and not reported on quite as much. In America, the media response itself plays a big part in the perpetration of mass murder - the perpetrators carry it out precisely in the hopes of being posthumously or postcarcerially lionized and raised to infamy.

Genetics dosn't pose a problems by itself because human formed mostly by environment: if you was trained to be an obedient galley slave from birth and you consider it as normal, you will become one, no matter how freedomloving your parents has been. There not so many hardcore psychos to cause damage, and it's not "impurity", but mutagens (drugs, deseases etc).

It's YOUR impliyng.
Why caring about people only because they looks like you is not considered childish?
Also all peoples from Africa => all non-first humans is traitors of the race (even some, if not, all negros).

Nope, it's just a method to create Master Race

Name 1 thing a hammer can do that a screwdriver can't

No. Genetics directly reflect the environment. Over successful generations, advantageous phenotypes are naturally selected. Anthropologists utilize discoveries in Genetics to rebuild genetic records of peoples, and thus, the phenotypical advantages for their environment.
If you are consistently trained to be an obedient slave from birth, and the training continues, there is not much chance of reconsidering on a large-enough swing, but doubt can occur.
Do you honestly believe there are more socialists than racists?
Because strength in numbers, user. A single twig is much weaker than a bundle of sticks. Fasces.

How many down syndrome school shooters have ended up on the news?

provide more directional force

What the fuck. I told you not about natural selection, but about environment (society, superstitions, traditions, raising, living conditions) and its impact on mind and beliefs.

"Ruler is/from God(-s), master from God(-s), master cares and i want to serve him. It's normal. It's the Order." Mostly no place for doubts.
Most people follow traditions without questions and fear to violate the taboo.

There are cattle that follow anything thanks to agitation, stupidity and social standards, not the deliberate choice. Except those who will earn PROFIT from this

I don't like religions and cultures. If I want to cooperate with somebody I cooperate with like-minded person (researchers, for example), not a bunch of same-looking, but stupid fellows. I don't care if they will be snow/sand/just- niggas.
As long as I hear about nationalism it's mostly about somebody (government or powerful businessmans) wants to profit. Like in "1984"

Most shooters is outcasts, who want to punish offenders kill people maybe even offenders.

How much power do you need and what's the purpose? *picrelated*

Debatable at best.

If you born slithgly smarter than average child, but will take heavy hit in the head, you will become stupid. That's environmental influence for dummies.

Brain damage is an extreme example. Studies looking at twins and adoption confirm genes are the dominant factor for intelligence. Genes are also by far the biggest factor in your physical attributes.

Schwarzenegger born with muscles? Nope.
Weak can become strong, stupid can become smart and vice versa. There not only genotype, but also phenotype. Divine/genic destiny is justification for morons.

Sure you can train and get strong. But there are innate differences. Compare male and female world record for lifting. Your genes determine potential and your upbringing how likely you are to reach it.

NATURE DOES NOT EXIST

you are all retarded niggerfaggots

all of you