Where do you guys draw the line between a fascist and a (anglo-style) conservative? What specifically do they have to support?
I mean, both are class collaborationists, right?. Why would you kill someone that goes to a nazi rally but not someone who goes to a GOP rally?
(i dont mean to be provocative, i just want to pick your brain)
Which one organizes to murder communists?
you don't think the GOP does in places like cuba and colombia?
Failing to champion the rights of workers. Failing to criticize capitalism or capitalist enterprises. Promoting authoritarian politics over democracy. Blaming all a nation's problems on specific ethnic or religious groups, or on foreign enemies.
You're actually right. We should introduce conservative's heads with the pavement too
I feel like this is purely an academic question as :
1) we can't fight either group before then and
2) we'll be fighting both groups after then
Aside from
this could all be the GOP
so conservatives DO deserve the wall?
get out
Modern antifa (in Europe) started because neo-nazis would attack radical leftist events and people they don't like (immigrants, gays, punks, etc.).
Both nutzies and conservatives should hang
This is the excuse I always see from antifa apologists, but funny enough I never get a citation for that. Nor do I get a solid line of reasoning on how defending yourself from aggression leads into becoming a glorified street gang in order to "defeat fascism".
Really, the Nazis weren't enough evidence for you? Fascists must die before they kill us first.
Yes, once they start blaming the blacks, the Chinese and the Mexicans for the ruinous poverty and inequality wrought on America by the capitalist class.
but if they don't do that and instead blame obama and hillary's socialist agenda, are they to be spared?
If they would seek to abolish democracy rather than let us peacefully vote for a socialist republic
Realize you're doing the equivalent of redbaiting, and then kill yourself.
anglos are fucking SUB-HUMANS
USSR/PRC weren't socialist, the Third Reich was perfectly fascist.
If you prefer then how about Pinochet or Peron.
:^)
No you sperg, I'm not saying nazis weren't fascist, I'm saying antifa's thuggery isn't instantly warranted just by uttering "muh nazis". The existence of a fascist country somewhere in the world at some point in history does not mean "welp gotta go beat up some autists". I mean, listen to yourself.
LARPing is thrown around as an insult a lot here but there's no group more deserving of the term than "we're not fashies, you are" antifa scum.
Well I'm not antifa because I don't think there's any point in just beating them, should kill them or not bother, plus antifa seems to get beaten themselves most of the time.
But really, eradicating fascism is a solemn duty of anyone who believes in democracy. What happened in Germany can still happen today if brownshirts walk freely.
I don't see what is really your issue even.
Damn, do I ever wish I lived in your world, Holla Forums.
I wasn't saying they were right, it's just usually what they say.
I've decided you and your family are fascist, and thus it is my solemn duty to murder you all in the name of democracy, and making sure Nazi Germany never happen again. Good job, me.
Incompetence, thy name is antifa.
Anyone who identifies as a "muh family values" or traditionalist-type of person needs their neck stretched.
Coincidentally that includes almost all Fascists and conservatives, who are just Fascist-lite really to me.
I am hispanic, but I REALLY like that meme
cromwell did nothing wrong
antifa doesn't fight normal conservatives because the whole dynamic of antifa vs neonazis is hooligans vs hooligans
not to say it's bad because they're our hooligans but they're not really going to attack the status quo in a serious way like that
Horkheimer pls go
I actually hate conservatives way more than fascists, personally. Both will come to blows with a radical socialist movement though. Thus both deserve the wall.
The typical Conservative does not engage in nor advocate street violence and/or extermination of minorities and political opponents. Meaning that conservative groups do not pose an immediate physical threat to the left/ minorities. Thats one thing.
The second and more important reason is simply one of pragmatism. As satisfying and well deserved as it might be to stove a conservatives face in with a Dr Martens boot it would serve no purpose and would only attract a fierce response from the bourgeiose media and of course the authorities against the left.
Nazi movements, in addition to posing a direct physical threat to the left and to minority groups as I said before, are vulnerable in a way that established parties are not, to being disrupted and defeated by being physically beaten on the streets when they attempt to organise marches and meetings in public.
Am I the only one who think every classcuck deserves the "head to the pavement" treatment?
US especially, targeting fascist larpers makes no sense. The Republican party at large is the big far right threat.
True, they just get the police to do that for them which is even worse.
They support further empowering the police which poses an immediate threat to minorities.
i don't kill peope nor would attack people for attending a fascist rally
(would use violence in self defence tho)