In 2016 the lumpen are the new proletaritat

Think about it who have been the most active in pushing for change in the past ten or so years, prisoners have organized the largest strike of this century, Occupy wall street, and the S█████ campaign were pushed by in large by the unemployed & or under employed (Yes I know they're reformists but it is something and they can be pushed), and African Americans who have been hit harder by unemployment, and homelessness more then any other group in america

Now that's not to say that workers haven't done productive things but most of the ones who have done something work in the service industry namely teachers, and fast food employees, and look at how many of the old school unions have endorsed Hillary fucking Clinton.

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Of course the obvious concern comes from how would you organize the lumpen in the first place

See: The recent prison labor strike. I don't see why lumpens couldn't organize for a common goal

I feel like the best way to get are movement across would be to set up shelters of sorts so that way we can show the lumpen directly how we benefit them


That's what I was referring to

Lumpen here. My answer is "yes, but we need to start holding leftist ideals instead of putting all of our energy into putting spinning rims on our trailers".

Yes. but how can the unemployed, the impoverished and the idle advocate revolutionary change successfully? What kind of ideology and vision of society could they advocate, without the post-industrial labor aristocracy turning on them and embracing reactionary politics to protect their muh privileged status and wages?

The only classes to bring about communist revolutions were peasants and lumpen. Marx was completely wrong about "the proletariat". Workkkers are reactionary.

so how exactly do we solve the problem of blacks, and their general inability to escape poverty?

"Consequently, there is only one solution to this deadlock, the one we find in another field of disposing waste, that of trash bins. Public trash bins are more and more differentiated today. There are special bins for paper, glass, metal cans, cardboard package, plastic, etc. Here already, things sometimes get complicated. If I have to dispose of a paper bag or a notebook with a tiny plastic band, where does it belong? To paper or to plastic? No wonder that we often get detailed instruction on the bins, right beneath the general designation: PAPER–books, newspapers, etc., but NOT hardcover books or books with plasticized covers, etc. In such cases, proper waste disposal would have taken up to half an hour or more of detailed reading and tough decisions. To make things easier, we then get a supplementary trash bin for GENERAL WASTE where we throw everything that did not meet the specific criteria of other bins, as if, once again, apart from paper trash, plastic trash, and so on, there is trash as such, universal trash."

Keep gorging yourself

Yes because shitposting totally provides constructive criticism and allows me to see that I'm in my own ideological dumpster

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You'll neggaz gey.

Lumpens aren't fucking poor people. They're people who reject socialism. Classcucks, essentially.

Nice reading comprehension though.

I'm surrounded by lumpen everyday. They live in an immediate, small world, politics means nothing to them.

That's not what marx says lumpens are you fag.

They're people who are outside the mode of production.

umm… Progressive Democrats of America and DSA got him to run. And then the leaders of both orgs kicked off the grassroots game. The S█████ leader from my area is an upper-middle-class lawyer from PDA.

Maybe… there were lumpens making phone calls for B████, but my general impression is that the S█████ campaign was
"make the middle class great again"
It didn't offer lumpens much except maybe an expansion in Social Security and a chance to pretend to climb the American ladder.

It's called the "precariat"

I need a source for this pic

That is the source comrade.

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Lumpens are quite capable of class consciousness, and I say that as a lumpen. In fact, I would go as far as to say that people who presume that the lumpen are inherently counterrevolutionary are themselves spouting a classist bias however unknowingly.

By not using CIA to spread crack in black communities in order to curb stomp the communist influence among them.
Oh wait, too late.

We need to let go of the Marxist religious dogma and left wing orthodoxy and pursue socialism by any means necessary.

Anyone convinced it is impossible for lumpen to be the primary revolutionary class are blinded by 19th and 20th century pure ideology.

Lumpens are scum

How's that Protestant Ethic working for you?

Last time I remember anons on here told me that I was automatically a counter revolutionary just for dealing weed.

Feminist flag, middle class? Never could have seen that one coming.

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No, I'm pretty sure you've posted this before and were told quite thoroughly this isn't the case.

Either you're an autist who took a Holla Forums shitposter seriously and won't let it go, or are purposely being disingenuous. Either way, read a book.

middle class
confirmed, this is a reddit bait thread. Abort.

or

Either way kek

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You automatically assumed the person you were replying to was referring to people poorer than him, which makes it pretty apparent to me that they're poorer than you.

Pic related.

Ah, so you're just projecting that I'm projecting. Understood. Defense mechanism based opinion ignored.

Why would you assume he's talking about people poorer than him you manipulative fucking harpy?

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I AM NOT THE PROLETARIAT, THE KID IN CHINA WHO MADE MY PHONE IS.
Thank you.