The Dawn of Capevidya

Is Holla Forums ready for an overdue new age in Cape games?

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Oh boy more creatively bankrupt "games"

Exactly what the industry needed!

Its a shame they will all be boring and uninspired.

An open world Punisher game that lets you take out crime syndicates and gangs however, wherever and whenever would be top tier.

Guaranteed to be shit, you just can't work a literal god into a game as protagonist and expect it to be anything fun unless you gimp him so hard it defeats the point of using the character in the first place

absolutely disgusting

garbage
Not video games

Superheroes are shit, with very few exceptions.
So now, I'm not ready for this. Fuck this.

God yes make it happen

yesss

no-oo.. well maybe small and properly made, like arkham asylum

OP hasn't responded to the thread since he made it if you bump the thread you are absolute cancer

don't be a weeb man, plenty of good american comis, Lucifer, Watchmen, Nextwave, Hellboy


the genre and subgenre's of cape comics or the heroes/villains themselves?

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This guy gets it.

as long as you keep a black and white list like me then you're fine.
All these faggots are on the blacklist.
Especially Gaile Simone and Jason Aaron.

They can go ahead and write their SJW shit while I'll read Hickman or Moore.
Fuck em. Fuck the modern industry.
I've found myself consistently reading older and older Vertigo runs like Delano's Hellblazer or Swamp Thing.
They can tell a message, even political that I can disagree without being "BAD GUYS ARE RIGHT WING, THIS 2D HERO FIGURE SAYS YOUR POLITICS ARE WRONG"

All of it. Superheroes suck as characters because (with few exceptions) they aren't fleshed-out or relatable, so stories about them almost always inherently suck.

They're all on the black list. There is no single author out there that hasn't made some pozzed shit.

These are just the most egregious mistakes. Leftists have actually managed to completely destroy an artistic medium past the point of salvage, in under 40 years.

Isn't DC trying to purge the SJW filth with Rebirth though?

Empty promises.

I'll only trust them when Batman starts racially profiling criminals and hunting down niggers.

I'm just glad I never really got into comics.

who writes this shit

I'm glad I got out before the whole thing crashed and burned.


Leftists.

Open levels at least.

This makes me moist.

I was going to don't get attached to characters but read runs by good author's, most new people into comics these days become almost to waifu levels, attached to their favorite character.

I do have to respectfully disagree, I think their are quite a few fleshed out cape comic characters but my main issue is consistency of characterization.
You have kid friendly bub beer Wolverine then grim dark guilty loner Wolverine


I wish I could be angry at you, but it's starting to feel this way, not quite yet but getting there.
I recently added Morrison to my blacklist cause of patriarch bullshit he put in his Wonder Woman book

I'm operating by an evidence based system, when I see the panels or read the interviews of them being cucked or just plain shit I'll add them.
I still have faith.

But I also hope it all comes crashing down. I don't think it's died yet but their's so many cancerous memes and literary techniques that it is dying.
I think it needs to die to be reborn.
Let it fucking burn.


Greg Rucka. Wonder Woman. so no.
Then their's Abnett whose wife is a massive tumblr feminazi


the first image is why I specified Delano's run on Hellblazer, so people didn't think I read that cucked potato eating cunt Ennis' shite

Capeshit is bad because it focuses on a single badly written usually mary sue character with very little pretense of stakes. The hero will never die, he may struggle against a one off enemy(or a pathetically bad recurring one) or he may lose his loved ones but for all intents and purposes he is immortal to the point of straight up getting back from the dead. That and the horrible quality and inconsistency of art in many comics.
Death and Return of Super Man is a perfect example of this where the writer kills off a character, introduces multiple poorly fleshed out ones only for them to go away.

Its a never ending cycle with no pay off. The over arching characters never change or stop, they only get abandoned. When fucking Naruto has more closure than your shit running for almost a century your whole genre has a problem.

I knew there was something rotten with that faggot when his more recent books started featuring niggers and IG regiments commanded by sexually "liberated" whores.

Oh god, please.

Though I'm not a weeb I'd still place manga, especially dime-a-dozen manga, above all the "big publication" 'murrican comics since their sole shtick is "some thing to read on your way to your slave labour camp and back to your tiny confinement cell (or hentai to fap before crying yourself to sleep)".

Stuff like Sandman, Hellboy (I'll even add Ork Stain)… et. al. are just a tiny minority and better ones rarely makes it past 1 or 2 volumes.

Then you have century old gay spandex faggots…

I was going to say*


really?

I think that's a problem with the status quo. Though its been going on for so many years it's hard so separate it from the idea of it being an inherent problem
I wish I could disagree fully, but you know something is seriously fucked up when writers such as Alan Moore, people like yourself and even fans like me have become sick of this bullshit

this is why for me it pays off to only read runs by my favorite writers. I ignore everything else and read it as it's own self contained story.
New X-Men or Hickmans F4/FF for example.
Clear cut, beginning, middle then end.
If some other run comes out after by a shit writer then I couldn't give a shit.


Ever noticed how one of the Ravenor characters is a "voluptuous curvy" mary sue with red hair? Now you know why


while good I'd never actually buy it. I aint giving Neil Gaiman a literal cuck money. Fuck that.
But for me I now just buy that minority, the limited series from all genre's (except capes).
Independent is the way to go when it's not hipster trash and SJW nonsense.

As soon as my white list runs out I'm going straight back to manga again, any recommendations?

I realised something.
The censor isn't the worst part of last one. The villain development is.

He is only feminism vision of patriarchy, he is just a random brute.
Author added censorship to actually make it remotely interesting as otherwise it would be "I will drink from your skull" 4 times in a row.
In fact she is not activist, she is first shit writer.
She just took what her movement thought as enemy and made it into comic.

Also since when captain America is same black chick?
People were joking about him turning black but I found comic fans actually showing some sense in him being new character. Is it same case as female thor?


Am I only one who sees the rising thread in media of female overpowering a guy who is twice as big?

About fuckin time. I'm actually tired of the Lego DC and Marvel shit. Don't get me wrong, lego is fun but I want a real cape game. Give me Ultimate Alliance 3, a sequel to that kickass Punisher PS2 game.

Reminder at one point they were going to do a Marvel Game Universe. They were going to kick it off with a Spiderman game made by Platinum but it was cancelled.

I really only liked Watchmen and Ennis' Punisher

Joy. They've breached 40k and will ruin that too.

Fucking great, I have no more sci-fi to read. Thank you you filthy oven dodgers. I will relish ushering whatever totalitarian shithole will see you hanging from trees.


I dunno. They keep changing that shit all over the place I stopped trying to keep up. Just assume that no character is white, male and heterosexual.

You noticed just now.


Ennis is now a "religion of peace" cuck too.

Note how no one mentions Valiant. They have a pretty well contained cape universe, characters who die in that stay dead (unless you count Gilad but thats a different story). Marvel and DC tend to piss me off lately but they do have some diamonds in the rough.

I did enjoy the recent New Avengers run with Sunspot as the leader, Deadpool Mercs for Money has been good too and I do like the New 52 Suicide Squad.

Thats the fucking genre
Its a genre that is all about bad writing and straight up bullshit.
There are a few non capeshit comics in west available and they are leagues ahead of any super hero shit simply by the virtue of being original or different.


At that point you are so far removed from the source material that adding capeshit stuff to it actually detracts from it. One of the biggest reason why marvel stuff is getting huge as movies is simply the guarantee of a closure and only 2 hours of investment. You don't have to wait weeks or months for a new issue of the comic only to be disappointed with another cliff hanger. This is why in a decade or so the whole MCU bullshit in movies will dry out too.

So let me get this straight. Do you really think they'd do anything with that property other than a shitty Max Payne/Hitman rip on a shoestring budget? That's what you're asking for? You're a moron if you do.

Accept some truth:
- If it isn't Bat or Spider-related, you're not getting a budget allocation sufficient for the project. Exceptions being Deadpool and that DC fighter made by the MK team that went F2P iirc
- If not Bat/Spider related, it will be relegated around a movie release, which guarantees it's forgettable shovelware shit (Remember the Iron Man games? The Hulk games? X-Men? Yeah, neither does anyone else)
- If it's a Superman game, it's guaranteed to fucking suck bar none. Because you CANNOT design good gameplay around a hero whose power is being fucking invincible & unstoppable. Unless you're a masochist into "do x before time runs out" a la Superman 64
- If the designers aren't Lego game devs, hang it up cause you're not getting any good mileage out of the concept.

That's the Gwenverse, pretty shitty series.

In the main 616 verse, Sam is still the new Captain America but Steve has become young again and taken up the mantle once more.

Its just a dream game user.

You know that horrible Dark Souls comic everyone's laughing at? That's 99.999% of western comics.

Not the recent stuff, I hope.

As so often is said in the X-Men, the dream is dead, Charles.

There's a Dork Souls comic? How the fuck the game doesn't even have a plot outside shit that happened ages before any of the games even start

But we can dream. One day edgy autists and Holla Forumslacks around the world will unite and make the Punisher game we all want to play.

Then we'll got and purge New York of all the filth. And then we'll get a prison expansion focused on sneaking and figuring out how to kill the most criminals possible before the guards get to you.

What if I told you capeshit exists outside of Marvel and DC?

From Rebirth. Watchmen is now canon DCU.


WAKE ME UP FROM THIS NIGHTMARE

That would be the craziest shit

This series was too good

Say examples, then.

He's not a literal god outside of a few really old comics. He's the kind of guy you can punch or shoot a big laser at and itll knock him down or tire him out, sure its hard to kill him unless you've got the green stuff or the red stuff but the deal with superman isn't that you have to kill him, the deal is you have to SURVIVE him. The fact he's nigh impossible to kill is pretty meaningless, so is the dude in dark souls or borderlands, the challenge is in not getting frozen, burned, smashed or tech-gadgeted to prison and/or hell depending on how bad you are. Usually its prison, but supes isn't a "no kill" fag like bats, just a "barely ever kill" person like spiderman.

A superman game with a health bar wouldn't be wrong or bad. You could just make it so that only big enemies/attacks actually lower the bar and weaker foes are only there to do objectives (attack civilians, steal shit, operate gadgets that can hurt you) plus you could include some ACTUAL SUPERHEROING like rescuing people from a burning building or helping out during an earthquake, not just the constant "SUPERVILLAINS ONLY" shit games push.

Bomb Queen.

All trash

After the last two Batman games (last 3 debatably), it'll be a train wreck.

The only way to make Superman fun is to strip his power and re-learn them all (learning unlimited __ after beating the game like a cheat code).

And Prototype 1 did "super-hero getting stronger" damn neat perfectly.

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The Pro

Don't forget the Hulk game that was its spiritual prequel.

But yes, Superman is a bad character to pick for a game. Outside of kryptonite he's pretty much invulnerable, and few in the DC universe can actually put up a decent fight against him when he decided to stop playing around.

Superman is a Mary Sue, and since two kikes came up with him that should come as no surprise. Why he's so popular is beyond me.

A game based on the Question would have been a blast. Playing as a paranoid tinfoil conspiracyfag in a world full of capes, magic and demons would have been fun.

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I still can't decide if pic related is supposed to be satire, or if they really are this fucking insane.

I could see it working if you were completely invulnerable to regular shit, but there was "heroism" bar or such that went down every time a criminal got away with anything and if it runs out you get game over

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The only way to make superman fun is to go back and stop trying to make shit for a fucking message.

Just have some goddamned fun. being taken seriously is fucking overrated as shit.

dont show Holla Forums again or there would be porn within the hour

That shit is charmingly retarded

yuuup. There is no reason to be excited for anything cape related ever again, especially now that we have seen just how low the heroes of your childhood can fall. Personally I'm just happy we were able to get Scarlet-Spider out of Marvel before they went full Squirrelgirl/Gwen-pool.

you have no idea

you really have no idea

god i miss this

Are there any American comics with lolis in their underwear (or less)?

ask Holla Forums they already have a few threads up about it

are there any good torrents or places I can read Silver Age Superman? I've looked around and was able to get Superman's Pal Jimmy Olsen but that's about it.

Who has the Spider-Man license?

They should just give Platinum money and tell them to make Spider-Man 2 with Mayday's ass.

Check out Batman The Brave and the Bold.
It took all the Silver-age silliness and made it awesome.

Like Crazy Quilt still being an artist driven mad by seeing intense colours all the time… but adding the fact he stole some tech to make a rainbow laser tank.

It's not satire.

never, ever going to happen user.

Don't tease me with what can't be.

Hell, just give me a decent original IP super-hero game with character customization and I'll be ecstatic. Hell, put it in an existing comic 'verse just let me make my OC.

Pretty sure Activision still has it

i'm not an expert on this shit, but for some reason anything silver age and back is fucking hard as shit to find online.

it defaulted to disney after amazing spiderman 2

i still don't know what the fuck mansplaining is

it's when a man explains something in front of a woman or something.

Logic.

so if they had a woman say the exact same thing they wouldn't mind?

yes.

Man uses logic on woman and her feelings get hurt.


They do mind. It's called "internalized misogyny".

it must be hard to live when you're constantly stretching the goal posts only for more reasons to throw temper tantrums

gonna assume anyone who associates with SJW shit at this point doesn't have a fucking hobby

Make it a Splinter Cell like game where you can tackle objectives either guns blazing or full stealth and we have a deal.

wut

Yeah, freedom of choice.

Think Blacklist assault and predator. You're still killing the bad guys, you're just relying on ambushing and silent takedowns more.

I just want another Freedom Force game.

Starfire, Catwoman, Midnighter and other shit are canned but that is par for the course.
Fags and cunts get pissed off every time a female, PoC or gay book doesn't sell well enough or is just given an interim before coming back with a new team working on it a wave or two later.
DC throws SJW pandering shit at a wall and see if any of it sticks just like everybody else.
Marvel however tries to MAKE IT STICK even if the sales numbers are in the trash.
They can afford to because they're the #1 publisher, shitting out the most books, owned by disney, with a successful mega-franchise of movies that catches the public eye.
DC doesn't race or sex lift half as much as Marvel and the worst thing they do is try and be contemporary by making all teens vapid fucking social media addicted fuckwads and real heroes into champions of liberal ideals.

Someone argued the superhero clause already (tension gone because you know the hero won't die). You're using that to gloss over and play down two critical factors:

Setting up mechanics that don't feel out of place around Superman's nigh-invulnerability.

Setting up a progressive narrative on the story so that the player can immerse themselves into Superman's role.

Contrast with other like heroes. Deadpool is unkillable, but he's a nigh unkillable assassin and gun for hire. There's a thousand and one directions to take his game that won't feel out of place or retarded. You can do the action, the kung-fu, and, most-importantly, the meta humor that blends in with said action.

Spider-Man is killable but he's strong as fuck. He's also constantly trying to balance his superhero life against his shitty life, and the two always cross. Spider-Man 2 made combat fun, made the webslinging absolutely god-like in feel, and gave you a fuckhuge map to do small, middle, and big time combat in.

Even Arkham Asylum hit all the notes that put you into the role of the Batman (combat argumentively standing).

But those guys have obvious limits and down-to-earth gimmicks, so to speak. Compare those attempts to the likes of Superman and you're going to have problems. A boring power set with no real limit (invincible even if the sun is down unless you have green rocks). How does that translate into good gameplay? Will you be able to destroy buildings? Are they going to put laughable meters in place? Meters that run out? On a man whose power is "I fucking win as long as the sun doesn't go nova"? That alone is a HUGE problem for a would-be developer. How the fuck do you craft a believable lose state for Superman?

And don't give me the current Superman bullshit, because it won't fly. There's not an exec at Warner right now with the balls to run with the supposedly lesser-powered Superman (and the "supposed" remark is full-on skeptical). A lunar eclipse could happen and they could go with a current build Superman and you'd STILL run into the problem of defining a proper lose state for the game that doesn't drag on or get boring (even the soft lose shit of die & restart at a checkpoint wouldn't fly).

Superman as a vidya has too many fundamental flaws to consider a fun game, outside of masochistic speed/escort runs.

Why are so many niggers shooting cops in Gotham?

magic hurts superman
shut the fuck up you autist

He regularly kicks Marvel's ass when they do cross blows and they have no fucking reason to do so in the first place aside of the bullshit superman is evil setup. That fucking leprachaun is a puzzle gimmick so you have that. Fate doesn't fuck with Supes most times.

His regular rogues gallery doesn't consist of magics and I fucking doubt they'd be able to sell any sandbox not built on Luthor or Brainiac.

Try fucking harder, retard.

are you fucking kidding?
shazam kicks superman's ass REGULARLY
and this is besides the fact that he's weak to tons more shit besides magic

yes. cape heroes are far better suited for video games than comics and movies.

you have a guy with crazy powers and a simplistic but entertaining personality who fights bad guys with crazy powers and simplistic but entertaining personalities. this makes for ok but forgettable movies and comics that get stale fast. it is the stuff great vidya is made of though.

it's a shame that it will probably be mediocre shit because they are counting on the characters themselves to be enough to sell the games

Superman = Open World beat'em up with silver age comic power levels
Wonder Woman = God of War ripoff
Green Lantern = Less Gay version of Mass Effect
Flash = Speedster game developed by Platinum
Suicide Squad = Tactical Shooter
Lobo = Meme game like Deadpool
Injustice 2 with Darkseid

REMINDER THAT CITY OF HEROES IS NEVER COMING BACK

REMINDER THAT NO CAPE VIDYA WILL EVER BE THAT FUN

you can always play Champions online

hahahahahahahahahahaha HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Comics have been fucked since the 1950s, with the Comics Code. And it was mostly liberals who brought them back, or at least brought them as close to back as they could get, in the late '50s and early '60s. You have some like Ditko or Miller who are right wing, but others like Kirby or… well most of the rest really, who are very left wing. That's not the issue. Miller and Kirby both have great comics and less great comics despite being pretty far apart politically.

The issue is SJWs being the current trend in society, and comics are such a niche audience that they just fumble around for whatever they think can get them attention. SJWs are just the new XTREEM shit like what we saw in the '90s.

And comics are niche because the comics code censored them to hell and back and made superhero shit practically the only allowed genre. The comics code essentially being a '50s version of SJWism. But at the time they weren't considered particularly left wing. It's just that SJWs are regressive puritans who just happened to end up on the left side of the table, despite not being particularly liberal.


Superman has several endings. Just each one is an "imaginary story" where the canon stories go through an alternate timeline where that one last story never happened. The original Death of Superman from the '60s was written by creator Jerry Seigel. Other comics continued but you can just read that and consider it the end of the "real" stories. Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow is the "last" story of the original Superman continuity, and in other comics it went through a semi-reboot, but just don't read those if you don't want to.

Also, the original Superman from Action Comics #1 died in 2006. He got killed by an angry fanboy from the real world. He came back as a zombie briefly a few years later, but that was just a single story, and the zombies were defeated. He's dead. The original Superman is officially dead.

Other guys die, and if they happen to come back later under a different writer, oh well, don't read that shit. Flash was dead for 25 years. If you want, just ignore the stuff from after he came back. Some of it's good, some not, but there was an ending. They just made a sequel later.


I think it's more possible to deal with his invulnerability, because as you said, only casuals think he's actually invincible. The trick is flying. It's hard to make it not feel like bullshit when Superman can't fly around the entire earth, or maybe to other planets or at least the moon. I mean you could put Metropolis and maybe other locations in a Brainiac bottle, but that only works for one game.


Except, you know, all his villains. He's stronger than a lot of other guys on the Justice League, but he has his own roster of villains who beat him up all the time. And then there are Justice League villains, who are almost all stronger than Superman and the rest of the league put together, and the more universal villains that they use for the really gigantic crossovers.


You'd have better luck looking for sets of the entire series and only downloading what you want. It's not hard to find paper reprints, so I'm sure downloads aren't too hard.


Just have villains who are as strong as Superman. The real problem is that they're mostly only appropriate as bosses. You'd be a bit short on regular mooks. You could use Parademons or Brainiac Probes or plain old robots made by whoever, though. So no, this isn't an issue. Superman isn't invincible. He's invincible compared to normal guys, then supervillains come and fuck his shit up. It's worked this way in like at least one new comic a week for the last 75 years.

Fix'd that for ya.

Angry that his son didn't invite him. Zeus fucked everything that moved.

Yeah, rampant sexism, racism, and general puritanism sure are liberal values.

The left has traditionally been quite liberal, but recent historical quirks have resulted in a left wing of society that holds old fashioned, puritan values.

Welcome to the real world.

fuckin this

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RIP

If it's any consolation, in DC it's canon that male and female are universal, even to most species of aliens, no matter how fucking weird they are. Energy beings and shit are still male and female. The DC Universe itself is female (her name is Kismet), and the Marvel Universe is male (his name is Eternity). At the end of Marvel vs. DC they banged and created the Amalgam Universe.

Holy hell looks like a clusterfuck

The answer for Superman vidya is really fucking simple. You don't set it on Earth, but on a distant alien planet, Apokalypse during a big civil war or something.

You get to play around with Superman's insane powerset in a big open world free of the consequences wanton destruction would wreak upon the city he's normally charged with protecting.

Since it's WB, I'm imagining they'll take after the animated version of Superman, who by far seems the most balanced in terms of raw power. Animated Superman gets punched, shot, and knocked around all over the place and actually manages to get hurt in the process.

You can limit his powerset by having him get blasted by some weird alien tech that saps some of his superjuice away if you really need to go the Metroid route for progression, even.

It's really not that fucking hard. Anybody who complains about Superman being 'too OP!' is fucking retarded and knows literally nothing about the character or his rogue's gallery.

Reminder that there will never be a realistic Superman game because of the sheer amount of shit he can do.

Most of the craziest things you see in those out of context panels have to do with Red Kryptonite, which gives a random 24 hour effect each time he's exposed to it. It's the excuse for all the super crazy shit from the '50s.

Really the only thing that's not Red Kryptonite that's particularly crazy is how Superman used to be able to just fly back and forth through time. But I'm pretty sure that hasn't happened since the '60s, and definitely not since the Crisis on Infinite Earths.

Good fight choreography is rare as fuck in anime. Cool that even mahou shoujo has it on occasion.

Dude what if there was a game, and the red kryptonite was like a hidden easter egg set in a area that's good to have some of those unusual effects each time you visit
Imagine a area loaded with green kryptonite enemies that's difficult to not get wrecked in, but if you get lucky on the red, temporarily you're invisible so you can just walk through safely.

why cant they just do a Superman game thats at least the level of Asura's Wrath?
thats a nice starting point

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Good riddance. Looks gayer than spawn and punisher combined.

You can always play Army of Two for your daily dose of homosedge.

Ready. I can ignore capeshit with the best of them!

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video games in general are gay you retarded nigger

tell me one manly man who plays video games

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Haunted Tank tank piloting sim when?
Blackhawks MGS clone when?
Creature Commandos FPA game when?
Doom Patrol character action game when?
Amethyst, Princess of Gemworld Fire Emblem clone when?
Space Cab Crazy Taxi clone when?

Wasn't there actually a game based around the Hellblazer movie?

meme harder you fucks, COH MIGHT ACTUALLY BE COMING BACK

I'm guessing English is not her 1st language.

The only real comic game I need is a Jonah Hex ripoff of Red Dead Redemption.

American comics are about as American as the bagel.

some rather good examples and if you can read into what they're defending something more.


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but the Question, Captain Atom, Black Canaryhave they made her a nigger yet?, blue beetle and the other Charlton characters are already in the DC multiverse.

Confirmed for having shit taste. Enjoy your "Klyntars" and "Space Knights"

There are already multiple universes based on each of those alt-company universes. Like all the Charlton characters exist on Earth-0 but also Earth-4 is still a Charlton earth more like the pre-crisis Charlton universe. Captain Marvel exists on Earth-0, but Earth-5 or something is still the Fawcett universe. It's been that way since Infinite Crisis.