Bethesda uses a wiki to reference lore

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I'm not sure if you guys already already put this article through its fifteen minutes of fame, but i feel this might be important to some of you.
Essentially, with enough subtle tweaks it's not only possible, it's fucking child's play to make Beth create a game where the lore is horribly out of touch with everything in the universe of the game being created except for its main points, not that it really stopped them from doing that in FO4.

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It's hardly Bethesda exclusive actually. Back in the day Lucasarts ditched their own in-house use canon-encyclopedia for the Star Wars EU because Wookieepedia was far more comprehensive and better maintained.

As if the autists that run them would let you.

C0da released the lore to the players, free from the strictures of a single canon. All canons are now equally valid, including yours. The symphony of Aurbis is a communally created endeavor. A wiki is as good a format as any for cataloguing it.

C0DA is now confirmed as canon.

Due to game manuals going out of fashion, the first place anyone goes anymore for info is wiki pages.
Fallout is tricky since it has "pre" and "post" fallout 3 lore. Anybody who takes the lore seriously after fallout 3 has no real love for the series.

He who controls the wiki controls the sales

What about fnv?

No.

Didn't the latest DLC have a bug in the main quest that prevents you from advancing, and cannot be circumvented? I don't really follow Bethesda.

That's true for pretty much everything, though.

After defeating Dagoth Ur and Hircine, the Nerevarine was eventually arrested for some crime or another and sent back to prison in Cyrodiil, in a cell that happened to have a secret passage which ended up being used by the Emperor when he tried to escape the Mythic Dawn's assassins. (The "Nerevarine" that went on an expedition to Summerset Isle was a Blades agent in disguise; there might have been some sort of uprising if the public learned that the Nerevarine was in jail.)

In addition to becoming the Champion of Cyrodiil, the Nerevarine also became the leader of the Thieves Guild and inherited the Cowl of Nocturnal from the former Gray Fox. The Cowl erases its owner's history, which retroactively caused the Nerevarine to become a Stranger, born to uncertain parents.

Jesus Christ, my rage is unending.
FUCK YOU TODD
FUCK BETHESDA
THEY FUCKING RUINED FALLOUT
I AM LEGIT 10/10 MAD RIGHT NOW

If only Blizzard would do this instead of letting Metzen pull shit out of his asshole to change at any given time…

This is exactly what I expected.

Is that a Khajiit?

If you have coin.

It's been a hard day shilling on Holla Forums.

The Khajiit want Septims, not shekels.

So what games do you feel have some good lore or setting? It doesn't have to be anything breath taking. Just something that you found interesting in the sea of generic medieval fantasy. We could talk about Beth being retards but I feel the conversation would just go in circles.

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To think the alternative would be, and has already actively been, for Beth to make it up themselves along the way. No way out.

So… if we use the most subtle shitposting skills we have… we could write bethesda's next game for them?

Apologize for Anchorage when?

On the upside, we could get Fallout Beijing. Or Fallout Tokyo. Sick of the same factions being repurposed for whatever role still isn't filled, time to explore other continents wastelands.

The concept of ageism has existed for decades and has been a major issue in pretty much every industry since the 50s.

If you'd ever actually held a real job you'd know this.

They use wikis? So why the fuck do they shit all over the lore? Oh silly me, if they can't write, it's safe to say they can't read either.

Now that would be interesting.

I would love to see Fallout: Warlord Era with Japanese occupation territories.

That would be fucking great.


Feels fucking bad man

The term didn't pop up until the 70s.

Oh how fantastic.
Fuck the Fallout wiki. remember seeing extensive articles like "divergence with the real world" which is 99% based on Fallout 3, and when I tried to add details from the first two games to the article they'd get removed.
They're also anal about weapons. You're not allowed to mention that something is based on a real gun. The Chinese Pistol doesn't look like a Chinese Mauser at all, not in the slightest.

How long till fans upload long retarded mental-gymnastic articles justifying Bethesda's fuck ups?

It might be a spergy little detail but in te beginning of FO4 there's a globe in your house and it has completely modern day borders. No East Germany, no USSR and so on. They just don't care.

I think the problem is that it's one of those 'fracture points', as with basically all '-ism's and '-ists'. In short, leftist divide-and-conquer, 99%-versus-1% subversion tactics.

How about some brainstorming for the Fallout Nippon that sadly will never be
All shit or a decent idea among them?

Fallout took from the culture around it,it could work.

You can go full retard on Japan and still get some serious fun shit out of it.

Just stop making Fallout in [insert place] and give it back to Obsidian already.

I want my Fallout 4/California.

Seems great user.

Did you read the spoiler?

A loli sanctuary guarded by robomikos? They'd have butler cafes instead of maido cafes. Surrounding tribes pay tribute to the lolis. Lolis spend tribute in butler cafes. And that makes Sebas-sama a serious contender for the imperial throne.


Fallout USA is close to fully explored. There's room for maybe one more game but that's it, after that all that's left would be Fallout The Soap Opera Episode Whatever.

It doesn't really matter. Actions speak louder than words.

It doesn't matter how they got lore in Fallout4, what matters is how lore in Fallout4 is.
They used wiki that is nice, but we already saw their writers clearly played through F1&2.

I mean it is shit, but it would matter before F4 release, now it means nothing.

FOR GLORIOUS NIPPON!

You've ruined it.

Why the fuck is it when ever someone raises the idea of Fallout Japan or STALKER Japan or post-end-of-world Japan you faggots have to ruin it with retarded ass meme-level shit that is entirely out of place. Every fucking time this happens. I hope no one tries to make a post-apocalyptic Japanese game if these shitty ideas are so prevalent.

Because we're realistic about the state of the industry. No, realistic about reality. 90% of everything is shit. It can still be fun shit, but shit nonetheless. So why not go for fun shit from the start? This way it still has some redeemable quality by being shit in an entertaining way.

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Like your idea needs to conform to the industry trends. Sure blame the industry for your faggoty ideas if it makes you feel better, but lie to yourself not others. Faggot.

Fallout,especially Fallout 2, was the same you fucking retard:pop culture references everywhere,american patriotism overblown,etc.
Fallout isn't stalker either.

At least they use the lore and not just hire new clueless people to make up contradictory shit

You've got be shitting me.

Who even maintains these wikis?

Like honestly, how autistic do you have to be to run a fucking fan wiki?

what movie?

First off, what said. Same for S.T.A.L.K.E.R. that took itself much more serious but still had some pointless references thrown in.
Second, oh boy, that butthurt. Have fun polishing your katana, Ken-sama.

This is your brain on fake intellectualism and elitism.We can just assume,using actuality,that Japan got nuked by China.
Also of course some are idiotic ideas,but fun is still allowed and would probably be better than being accused in game of ageism/ableism/misogyny, etc.


Multiple people.


Chinese movie ,search:"Japan march" on YouTube and the name is in the comments. It's propaganda about Nanking though
Still fun to read Japanese and Chinese throw shit at each other

You're the faggots arguing for the katanas and Japanese ghosts and and shit, you colossal woman.

The aren't suggesting pointless references thrown in. You're suggesting those retarded references become major factors the game/world, which is the distinction. Retards, the lot of you.

If this were Hollywood you'd be the faggots saying we should make memes into movies.

Oh cmon, Fallout NV tried to be a straight continuation of 2, at least in terms of world building, I don't think there are any references to post Fallout 3 lore anywhere.

I just wish Tactics was part of the main series, it was FUN

it shows in all departments in except maybe music and concept art.

story concept: fuck all the mysteries, just add dragons

story implementation: good idea but let's not have many dragons

balance and skill design: fuck GW1 intelligent pre planning design, you win if you use all your cooldowns.

race design: let's make everything cutesy

PvP: 3 modes only. enjoy. (conquest, champions dusk, World v World), for reference GW1 had Alliance Battles, deathmatch, random arena, guild battles, heroes ascent, hero battles, jade quarry, fort aspenwood, codex arena and I'm sure a few others I forgot about

expansions: in GW1 we had 3 seperate full games and an expansion with multiple multi layered dungeons, shit ton of armors, a sizable story and loads of maps

GW2's expac had 4 maps, 1 raid and CHECK OUT THIS NEW ARMOR IN THE CASH SHOP GUYS

I really really could go on and on

So, now that all the faggots know, Fallout 5's plot will be various fanfictions all blended together, as autists storm the wiki and get their Donut Steel OCs some spotlight.

Can't wait for the Fallout/MLP crossover game when some autist manages to somehow sneak Fallout: Equestria in there.

Please no.

It's easy to shit on ideas. Give us a better idea for a proper Fallout in Japan, Ken-sama. But you can't without silly references because then it isn't a proper Fallout. Go on. I'll probably shit on your ideas as well but maybe there's something good among them. Even Ken-samas like you sometimes have good ideas.

How is this not good enough for a game? Or even a series? It could be warhammer 40k in the Fallout world.

Just posting some more because goddammit, I love the artwork.

Because it out did Bethesda, since it was the first to bring BoS as "saviors" long before Bethesda could cash-in over it.

There are and Obsidian had to also live with the lore rape which they usually just don't bring up.
Nuka-Cola is radioactive.
Rads is synonymous to filth.
People regularly eat pre-war food.

In Tactics the BoS is still a rather overzealous group, they still pretty much despise everyone else, and so they only protect those who pay them tribute (Resources, weaponry, able bodied men) They only began to recruit local tribals due to the lack of personnel.

If you just said "suggest an alternative" I would've, but if you're going to be the one who suggests katanas and samurai and akibara lolis while calling me Ken-sama I'm going to laugh at you and dismiss your comments as the shitty bait its devolved into.

Con: The Midwest brotherhood of steel is a more down to earth and brutal branch of the west coast brotherhood, I like it how they send you to these various tribes to help and in the briefings they pretty much talk shit on them and how they only help them because they paid for protection.

Wasn't Fallout Equestria one of the longest fanfiction made?It would probably be better than Bethesda actual writers,autism knows no bound,just substitute ponies with men and we could get a good game.

So you have no idea how Fallout in Japan could work, got that, Ken-sama. Hope feeling offended is bringing you the joy others feel being creative.

No user.

It's autistic MLP fanfiction.

Even Bethesda are better than that.

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Filtered like the shitposter you are. Feel free to come up with some witty comment about how you won and pretend I won't reply because of how buttmad your retardation made me.

Evidently not.

That says much about Bethesda competency.

I don't know.Just look there , if they can't even be bothered to adjust something a fan took its time to find out,but even drop something "it's a fucking game nerd,chill out",there is really hope a MLP fan could make something better. I would even allow his fursona in it if he can stick to the lore.

I never read it, but it's so popular that it formed its own clique inside the MLP fandom, so it's probably not that shit.


I've read a lot of autistic fanfiction that was better than Failout 4's story. Fuck, some of the fanfiction witers actually wrtie better than most published book authors, but are either too autistic to try writing a real book, or cannot get published. Of course, that's like 1 in a 100. The other 99 are just self-fellating morons writing shitty porn.

Me neither but autism usually it's a good thing if you can tone it down a bit and don't go full detailed explanation.Videogame went to shit when instead of video game autists being in charge,we got marketing personal as CEO,directors,etc.

MLP and furries ruin everything.

I doubt that at this point.
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Cat people and lizard people.
Think about it.
wtf?

Why not strive for improvement, heck, even chase perfection and idealism?

Accepting nv means accepting whatever fo3 did.
No way in hell.

In Fallout? It would mean dropping something as the mixture of the original series is too quirky for that. You could work on an ideal Fallout Tactics I guess. I may be wrong but can't remember any silly references in that one. Also having direct control over all characters makes it easier to go for an ideal version of it.

When I made my post I had forgotten Fallout 4 even existed (I barely played it, quit the second they handed me the power armor and had me killing a death claw).

I'd still argue that even that shit is better than Pony fanfiction though. Sorry guys, I know the "Bethesda is shit" meme is strong as fuck right now (as it should be), but no matter what I'd still rather play their amateur shit over Ponyfagfiction. Or better yet I'd rather just go play an actually good game and let the Fallout and Elder Scrolls franchises die like they should have.

If there's anything my time as a Star Wars fan has taught me it was the ability to create headcanons. Selective forgetting and slight re-imagining is all it takes.

What a shame it's dead. The story wasn't the best, but East Asian settings made Western developers is rare, moreso for RPGs. And there was a lot in that game that could've been expanded on. If a sequel were made by modern BioWare, it wouldn't even be worth a pirate/rent.

There was an interview a few years back where the devs said they still work on the ideas for Jade Empire 2 in their lunch breaks. With any hope they go solo and make a spiritual successor.