I tried to play earthbound and mother 3 but everything does crazy damage to me and I'm starting to think I might be just not getting how to play this.
I beat like two bats at the start of mother 3 and they did 50+ damage to me. I mean that can't be right.
What the fuck am I missing?
Caleb Rogers
Well, welcome to RPGs. Mother is one of the more brainless ones in terms of grinding and all that, just keep beating up bats until they're easy to beat up and then continue on.
For Earthbound you can just grind until you learn the first tier of PK favorite-thing and then mow down everything with it. It gets easier from there on because of how much of a statistical powerhouse Ness is.
Charles Sanders
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Adrian Rodriguez
You're not allowed to bitch about Mother 3 until Miracle Fassad
Sebastian Cook
You can avoid fights or just grind near a hot spring, but you shouldn't have to grind until later. Also use rolling HP, if you kill the enemy while your HP is rolling down it will stop
Mother 2 and 3 are some of the easier jrpgs out there.
Adrian Phillips
Ech, I was really hoping I wouldn't have to grind that's really annoying
Joshua Morris
In Mother you have to grind.
You don't "have" to grind in Earthbound and Mother 3, although it makes certain parts easier if you are ahead. In particular the department store, which is one of those really off-kilter areas.
Ness, however, becomes a vertible god really quickly. He's always playable, so he gets every drop of exp. You also get power-leveled cause "muh story" latter on so.
Jack Smith
Graphics rip of Dragon Quest, 3 is just lolsoedgy despite comedic tone of first 2. Shit, overrated series. Sage.
Colton Gonzalez
Protip: heal yourself after taking damage to avoid dying.
Matthew Nguyen
Yeah but I have to buy a shitton of healing items every time
I had to grind in Earthbound too though
Jaxon Thomas
>Miracle >Not New Miracle is a fucking joke comparitively.
Zachary Gray
But user Mother 3 starts off in noncapitalist paradise. Healing items are free.
Eli Taylor
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Ayden Baker
Not in Mother 3, I beat the game without grinding and had little trouble with it. Earthbound you only need to grind at the start before the battle with Frankie.
Jayden Young
This. MOTHER games get incredibly easier with the more party members you have.
Jayden Morris
These games are still expected to be played by children, you can't expect them to be difficult enough to keep challenge to adults.
I played Earthbound when i was 10 and shit was hard as fuck. Not that i had lots of experience playing RPGs too. Eventually i managed to master every cheap trick around.
Tyler Butler
I have literally never had any trouble with any game, but I've had tons with earthbound
It is not for kids
Ayden Howard
Here's the attention you so desperately seek.
Gabriel Phillips
It is absolutely for kids.
Japanese kids.
Not you casual round eyes.
Tyler Long
It wasn't Communist either.
Matthew Jackson
I had to grind to beat New Fassad and I think a bit to beat Barrier Trio. Otherwise, it had a good difficulty curve.
Certain parts of both games are a moderate challenge, moreso if you don't take advantage of niche abilities (e.g. paralysis on the mole boss).
David Allen
At the risk of completely derailing this thread, you do know there's like, an entire spectrum between capitalism and communism, right? It doesn't have to be one or the other.
Ayden Hernandez
stop
Grayson Williams
No shit. I support neither.
Bentley Anderson
You gotta grind like a brainless mongoloid. You wont do well in these kind of games if you are a thinking man.
Luis Walker
New Fassad was the only part of the game I had difficulty with, but he's still not too tough.
Asher Brooks
You know how to combo, right op? Also, prepare to cry
Oliver Rodriguez
Mother 3 is pretty grindy honestly.
Ryder Reyes
Also, comboing's hard as shit on a computer based emulator, since the timing with the music is all off. Runs best on a flashcart. Hear it runs just as well on a Wii
Ian Evans
Learn how to do the rhythm combo thing in Mother 3 for extra damage
Nathaniel Howard
what's comboing
I'm playing on 3DS
Joseph Watson
This is the excuse shitters used because they were tone deaf. Most emulators for GBA nowadays have proper timing
Joseph James
Think of Mario&Luigi RPG except the action prompts are based around the battle music and the prompts are invisible.
Samuel Hughes
Well that sounds fun
Kayden Johnson
you don't even need to use them once but considering you are having trouble with it might as well.
Jace Barnes
During an attack, you can press the A button again to add more attacks in, but you have to time it with the BGM. Once you get Duster, you can put enemies to sleep and get a better idea of the timing with their heartbeats, but until then you are going to have to play it by ear.
Camden Thomas
That's only in Mother 3, right? I don't recall that being in Earthbound.
Jason Brown
Alright, cool, didn't try it for a few years.
Tap A to the beat of the music. You deal extra hits, up to 16.
Camden Cooper
Yeah, I never combo'd because I only played on my GP2X. That shit definitely is off on some things. Still didn't have a hard time with this game.
Austin Perez
No. It was added because of the series' GOAT soundtracks
Cooper Bell
Vid related is a good example of this.
Grayson Fisher
I think Mother 3 soundtrack was bad, except for like 3-4 songs, and it was all the fault of the combo system
Asher Hall
earthbound's wasn't that amazing either. There's a few that are really catchy, but everything else is just bad sounds put together
Nathaniel Ward
It depends how you play. I beat mother 3 without grinding without any real trouble. I thought those bosses were tough too, but then I realized how useful the offense/defense altering spells were. They were buffed significantly since earthbound.
Noah Taylor
I don't understand people bitching about grinding.
You do understand that a major core to why RPGs of all stripes are so satisfying is that you're taking a weak character and making them the strongest thing in the world.
In order to do that you need some form of training (grinding), and a few power gaps that challenge the player to reward their training.
If anything it's realistic, as it would take considerable training for a child (as is the case with most of the Mother franchise) to overcome such odds.
That said it does appear to be a great casual filter as fags who want everything handed to them as they thoughtlessly rush through the game tend to bitch about it.
Nicholas Wilson
If you're emulating the game then expect to fail every rhythm combo in Mother 3. If you're not, ching chong nip nong.
Tyler Jackson
You're so casual it hurts. You do that in a ton of RPGs
Grind or die, Japanese mentality of doing repetitive exercise till you feel stronger :^)
Lincoln Young
I completed both games when i was 12 lmao git gud.
(You)
The Wii U release of EB got a T rating on America but a Cero A on Japan lmao.
Ethan Nelson
I'm genuinely sad us westerners are pussifying our children.
I'm going to expose my child to hardcore shit, like I was. Although I was only exposed to it because I had a genuine interest in more adult content and my parent was very open in letting me choose my own way. This country has really gone to hell since the 80's in terms of how it treats it's children. Now every child needs a safe space, which explains how these little shits are acting now on college campuses.
Meanwhile in Japan little Shintaro is taught to work his ass off every day, even when he's playing vidya.
Julian Mitchell
I thought Mother 3 was a mockery of Slavic/Socialist culture with New Pork City being a utopia where everyone is "equal"
Ethan Perez
Word, being in a safe box doesn't help you grow, it's like a tree without wind. All these little and big troubles you used to get into when you were a kid ended ultimately being something from where you learned a valuable lesson
Ayden Fisher
mother 3 is the most overrated out there
the gameplay is not even that good
Justin Mitchell
And it only gets downhill frlm here with shir like common core
New Pork reminded me of North Korea even
Cameron Thomas
Because people want games to be about player skill as opposed to spinning in a circle mashing A until you win.
Brandon Bennett
That's an oversimplification to make your point have more validation
Jaxon Russell
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Liam Rogers
as a *
Ryder Peterson
But, again, a game focused too much on player skill would lose the whole "Build a character from nothing to hero" thing that RPGs have always based their core on. If your character is already fully capable then it's not going to be very satisfying as an RPG, even if it's a more enjoyable playing experience for you.
Besides, the game is still based on player skill, it's just also based on how you build your character. I mean you could grind to a retarded high level and just sweep everything (though that's not true of every RPG, but generally most of them) but knowing how the tricks of the game and having skill will help you clear the game at a lower level.
Jose Hall
Someone explain the (you) meme for me. It doesn't seem to make any sense.
Dominic Campbell
It was a satire on consumerism. I don't know where you got the everyone is "equal" thing.
Kevin Powell
Here's your (You)
As in, whoever posts the above phrase, or simply (You) is accusing the original poster of baiting for replies
Jeremiah Hernandez
sucks to suck OP
I beat Mother 3 without actively grinding on my first playthrough
it wasn't until I watched a let's play that I realized I was supposed to grind in short git gud
Colton Murphy
You're the only one calling it a downvote, you dumb nigger.
Ryan Thompson
I'm probably only one dumb nigger, who's waiting for Mother 4. And it will probably end up shit.
Tyler Gomez
I'm waiting for it too Don't talk about it yet unless you want to summon the autism brigade