Posted this in the FAQ and then realized it's probably best that I just start a thread for it...

Alright, I was basically wondering what the general concensus on that viewpoint was here, yeah. Liberal as in liberty to do shit and defend yourself from others preventing you from doing shit or harming you via the shit that they do.

I keep specifying harm because minding my own business regarding the actions of others only goes so far. I can't see bringing myself to just not care about the actions of people like rapists and murderers, the line between their sort and somebody with, say, different sexual preferences than me being that one is actively causing harm unto other unwilling parties, which makes me feel justified in generally disliking them.

So spook basically means prevelant social construct?

Thats just your personal ethics or the system of ethics you comply to.(Then it isnt by own choice that you dislike something but enforced by the police in your head called the police thus a fixed idea.) Its purely subjective to like or not like a something and to make a judgement upon it by own values and act upon them. The rapist too has the ability to make his own judgement and follow some urge to rape someone, thats fine for him but he will attempt to dominate someone and if that someone doesnt comply to his authority then that person can assert herself/himself in his/her defence against the might of the other.
And if someone doesnt like gays and wants to kill them, then fine but dont expect them to comply to that too in the usual docline way citizens act in society. We are indoctrinated to be so pascifist as possible for the benefit of the system its enforcement of the regulation of human life to reap the benefits of a obedient and hardworking population to keep the economy so well fucntioning and smooth as possible without any youknow annoying revolutions and shit.

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Your post seems to imply that you view harming somebody who is actively attempting to cause harm unto you (e.g. trying to rape or murder you) in self defense as being equal to being the initiator of the conflict; that is to say that it seems like you're saying the initial perpetrator of harm against another person is no more or less justified than a person defending themselves from the person initiating the conflict. Is that what you're saying? That self defense and actively seeking to cause harm to somebody who's done nothing of the sort to you are essentially the same?

Yuifaggot is right. Gay radicals from the '60s would probably have been appalled if they knew their liberal successors would end up celebrating the institution of marriage.

The justification never mather as they are just mere ideas, the act itself only mathers. I can all say that i will rape your boypussy but what does that mather if i actually dont do it. I can claim i will rape you but never become a rapist if i never preform the actual act. All justifcations are emty and have no meaning for the act is the only thing with meaning to the person its inflicted upon.

And what I'm saying is that if the acts which somebody inflicts upon others have some serious negative impact upon said others, and those others had done no harm to them to ignite the conflict, then it only makes sense to shun them as bad human beings. You can't seriously be arguing that that notion is only a construct of our current system meant to keep people docile and happy in the same sense that taking we're told to avoid non-passive action towards a power structure which is actively infringing upon your life.

*in the same sense that taking we're told to avoid non-passive action towards a power structure which is actively infringing upon your life is a notion meant to keep us docile and happy.

Only if the society that would shun that person has the same code of ethics like you. It may also be completly turned around and see as an acceptable practise to do a verry patriarchal act like that as seen in some Islamic society's where the harm of the female isnt that mutch valued. Society sometimes has (according to my subjective ethics) have fuckedup morality/ethics and sometimes good ones.

What do you mean? That hostility against other individuals cant be compared to hosility towards the existing power structure?