This thread will likely be banned or spammed quick. But the state of this board and nationalism is leaving me jaded and sceptical of anyones abilities to think critically. the Russian media apparatus is trying to export itself into the west and take over fringe right wing communities like this one.
Some good pieces from this article. On this latest incident in Crimea in which Russian authorities are claiming to have foiled an attack by Ukrainians, alt-media blogs and websites uncritically report the Russian assertions as fact. “I have no reason to suspect the Russians aren’t telling the truth,” wrote one Veterans Today commentator before reprinting a Russia Today (RT) article on the subject. VT is headed by Gordon Duff, a highly untrustworthy charlatan who admitted to fabricating 40% of the information he shares on his website.
Another alt-media site, The Duran, writes, “there is actually no reason to doubt that the Russian account [of the Crimea incident] is true.” That website was co-founded by Peter Lavelle, a Putin loyalist and host of Russia Today’s flagship debate show Cross Talk, and Alexander Mercouris, a disgraced British-born barrister with a sketchy past who jumped on the pro-Russian media gravy train. The website is, in effect, just another propaganda arm of RT posing as something alternative.
Be skeptical and dilligent of everything you read a hear even this thread.
In fairness, I don't think anybody on Holla Forums would give a shit about (((alt-right))) media.
Wyatt Sullivan
Not a lefty just capable of knowing when I am being astro turfed with false information and a controlled narrative
Mason Peterson
Go back to where you came from then suicide yourself Britbong.
Samuel Martin
I dont mean faggots like Milo I mean boards and sub communitis like us are being fed a health dose of propoganda.
Isaac Foster
uh huh…
Austin Baker
I'd like a good reason a red blooded American should actively hate a bear blooded Russian these days. And proofs.
If there was an attack, oh well. If there wasn't, oh well. If they've been trying to coopt Holla Forums they're doing a shit job.
Do not mistake apathy and arms distance coexistence with friendly disposition.
Brayden Scott
You know, I doubted you in the OP, but now that you used those buzzwords I'm left speechless. Consider me won over, moishe.
Josiah Roberts
Not defending alt-media but now they are trying to pin them to the russians,but they never did the same when all the millenials who just graduated out of college started writing articles for gawker,buzzfeed etc by associating them with marxists and look where what they have done. Still these alt-media formerly liberatrian clowns should be watched carefully,they may start their mischief during Trump's second term like what happened with Obama.
Tyler Green
Nothing in that post was buzzwords and you are attacking the tone of the post not its content which is a shill tactic.
Brayden Jenkins
I agree but we're not altright. Look at the "leaders" they keep changing the altright to from Kristol (just like they hijacked the tea party with neocons) to Milo (the literally gay ultra faggot niggerloving coalburner). It's obvious they are in no way Holla Forums and why they keep pushing this kike shit on us.
As for Russians, I think our rusanons on Holla Forums explained it best. Putin is fucking over Russia but there's no other leader there (hence if not Putin, then who?), Russia also astroturfs and supports a bunch of active measures shit still. They literally have a guidebook and RT constantly supports a bunch of tranny, BLM, and other degenerate shit but you don't see it in the Russian one for obvious reasons. The chinks do the same shit. You can't trust them or any of our home nations back in the west and most certainly not the kikes. That's why an intelligent person is a skeptic. Don't trust the media, states, or even here but at least on Holla Forums you can say a lot of shit openly.
Ryder Peterson
The article and post lists news sites and names of individuals in the US with connections to the Russian state media apparatus.
Daniel Gomez
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Tyler Ramirez
honestly though will that be the downfall that certain corners of the right can never self reflect or even consider what someone has posted?
Levi Lopez
Alright refute the facts in the post you arent even arguing but deflecting and ridiculing to derail like a trained paid shill would. This board has been on the CIA and FBI's watch list for some time. Its likely gained Russian intellegence agencies attention as well.
Jaxon Allen
OP confirmed retard, thread confirmed bad
Xavier Perry
Fuck off. Your aren't from here or you would know it's called alt-kike. Go back to cuckchan, TRS, or wherever.
Robert Green
Here's some pictures of cats wearing hats.
Jose Morales
So you have no argument or opinion and the extent of your intellectual ability if to name call. I have been on the chans since the zim zam riots and came to this fertile land in the first exodus before you cancerous niggers destroyed the intellectual quality of this board. Eventhing has gone down hill since cripple kike sold this place. Feel free to refute my initial point though, Russia has a vested interest in subverting western media platforms and this board is a western media platform.
Thomas Hall
I trust the Russians more than the kikes that run our media, honestly. Have you seen my dubs?
Yes, goy, anyone that does anything other than shitpost is a kike shill.
Thomas Evans
Where the fuck is my paycheck.
Sebastian Cox
And there the fuck are my trips.
Adrian Howard
Better a healthy dose of propaganda rather than an unhealthy one :^)
Chase Garcia
Propoganda is never healthy or preferable to people ideas and things existing by the merit of their argument or actions.
Jayden Allen
We fucking know
But what are we supposed to do? After the elections, everything went to shit. Quality of the board declined tremendously because the quality posters stopped redpilling and posting and the cancerous ones mostly straight out of cuckchan post exodus refused to lurk moar.
Julian Diaz
t. someone who doesn't know hobbes was right
Colton Foster
Russia is dominated by about 110 oligarchs that hold almost all of the countries wealth, they are almost entirely jewish or muslium and putin is one of them. In no was is it preferable
Jack Garcia
top kek
Jeremiah Howard
The question is Russian assistance against our interests even if it's true?
Are they going to try to get us to cuck or some shit?
Thomas Brown
There is indeed too much russophilia going on on alt-right related websites. The eternal Ivan has no interest in saving Western Europe since he's hoping for Moscow to replace Rome and the Eurasian Empire to replace old Europe.
Samuel Flores
Does it look like I care when I can smell a shill other than telling him out.
Aaron Gonzalez
The only think healthy for you to consume is statistics on kikes and reading literature by Adolf Hitler and William Luther Pierce and the like. Anything else serves as a for profit scheme and plays into the mindset and views of a faction of National Socialism with dirty Jewish tricks to sell a product.
Eli Walker
We really dont have any other options as no new chans have been created and the old users have been chased away. If we could migrate we would, I mostly passively lurk these days but I try and make a good thread or post every now and then. This place is becoming like The KKK a controlled opposition group with no intellegence being willfully lead to doom by a goverment apparatus.
Alexander Rivera
Veteran's Today has admitted to being disinformation, at least in part, openly on their own website. They've been hostile to the US in general regardless of administration or party affiliation long before jew Paul Gottfried's "alt-right" label sprang into regular use.
Jason Bennett
The mainstream Western media pushes poz and globalism, while the alternative media, Russian or no, does not. If you support the lugenpresse you need to get into the fucking oven.
Anthony Jackson
Actually you do. There's a concerted effort to call it a honey pot or Shill against it. Read the material and quality of the posts and decide for yourself. Don't take the words of a kike operated echo chamber.
Jaxson Williams
To some extent yes and to some extent no. If done carefully we could use their help to free ourselves from our current overlords but under no circumstance should we allowed them to gain a political cultural or ethnic foothold over us or they will be crueler slave masters then any of us could have imagined in the west. While western zog prefers the carrot easter zog prefers the stick and any insubordination would be met with swift violence.
Ethan Butler
First: Everybody knows about that and I doubt anyone here enters this site. Literally who? Seriously, what you've posted is nothing. Come back if you have a story on Red Ice, Counter-Currents, Arktos, or any other shit like that at least people view, instead of those nobodies you posted.
Also, we're not "AltRight", this have been made clear since forever.
Leo Rivera
Russian media also pushes poz it is just very carefully selected. Browse RT English it is all about anti racism black women hair and other dumb shit.
Brandon Myers
No shit? Alt right is made of cuckservatives, and russia is ZOG-East.
Cameron Richardson
I would like to see an updated graph on how jewish Russian billionaires and political positions are today I would probably be about the same.
Camden Carter
Compare RT to CNN or NPR. RT is pozzed, but the Western media actively pushes it on the reader. Ultimately this thread is just an extension of the leftist/cuckservative "muh Russia." The alternative media trusts Russian sources because they're more trustworthy, whatever angle they have, and the lying press and their masters hate Russia because it's not 100% in line with them.
Aiden Cox
I have no clue what "alt-right" media is except that it certainly isn't us. All of these publications that you referenced, like "Veterans Today" and "The Duran", I've never heard in my life so they certainly aren't influential. Russia may control a bunch of no-name publications but that's trivial in comparison to kikes who run the NYT, Wash Post, CNN, etc who are actually considered "mainstream" news groups.
If you can give an example of how Russia is manipulating Holla Forums perhaps I'd be willing to agree with you, but I think their first order of business would be to convince us that the Holohoax was real (since denial is illegal in their country) and not even shills are stupid enough to push this on Holla Forums
Hunter Collins
This bait gave me a good chuckle at least
Nathaniel Walker
If you haven't developed a discernment for shills and an instinct for bullshit, you need to lurk the fuck more
Carter Johnson
You have never take a debate class or read up on how propoganda works. Havent you noticed we never even talk about the third reich or facism anymore?
Justin Gonzalez
The mods here are controlling something and i can bet they are getting paid by someone maybe kushner or someone who has their own agenda they anchor all informative threads that makes you think and oh they heavily shill I bet a mod is already commenting in this thread even some 4chan posters seem intelligent compared to some people we have right now oh we are bottom feeders who just take the credit for all 4chan pol work
we should completely dox the mods here and stop falling for that sperg who keeps spamming IMKIKEY shit he probably works for the mod too and spreading disinfo
Michael Richardson
This place is defintely controlled by someone because the people who try and form a narrative know how to argue they know how to derail and shift focus and forge a consenus
Dominic Bennett
We talk about this all the time. Obviously Holla Forums is a politics board, not a history one, so we discuss current events (e.g. Trump) than thing we all agree on and have discussed 1000x ad naseum (the jewish question). You must be living under a rock though if you can browse Holla Forums and not notice anything about Hitler.
Zachary Jenkins
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Cooper Cook
Have you ever been on 8/pol/ before today? Everything pro-Russia is met with "clueless Ami sucking putin's dick", "muh based russians right guise" and "RIDF"
Parker Baker
r8 OC
Tyler Powell
Well, you could always go back to the old board before Holla Forums
>>>/4chon/
Dominic Hughes
Pretty paranoid there, famalam. Have you checked out cuckchan lately? It's a quagmire of autogenerated shitposts and slide threads.
Luke Morris
RIDF makes up roughly 60% of all posts on this board.
Kevin Ward
I have noticed that. Mods seem to be bumplocking certain threads, even if they're not against the rules. I don't know if they're trying to control the narrative and discourse here or what.
Christopher Ortiz
You make good points but >>>/polmeta/ and this is just a magnet for concern trolling
Landon Gutierrez
Just because you've come to realize that Putin is savior of the white race, doesn't mean you're RIDF.
Jace Myers
They bumplock shit threads. I've yet to see a bumplocked thread that didn't warrant the anchor.
Mod depowerment and replacement is a goon/sjw tactic. Hotpockets may be lazy fucks, but they aren't stupid.
Evan Richardson
I still don't know. Some say they're faggots, but our faggots. There's really two sides to the whole debacle and you really couldn't make out anything tangible out of either.
Owen Ramirez
OP do you unironically think most of Holla Forums's Holla Forums trusted the "Alt-right" in the first place?
Josiah Walker
Careful what you say user, don't want another five years in Black Dolphin for denying the Holocaust now do you?
Lincoln Edwards
can't we compromise and war with the gooks?
John Morris
Your bait is weak, Moshe.
Daniel Russell
Here is how it works, as far as I've seen in my years There are a few mods. They work in shifts. There are times of day when nobody is watching. They don't talk to each other. They have fairly different views of Holla Forums's purpose. This makes the moderation looks schizophrenic. Some mod thinks we should keep redpilling dumps, book club, memory holing all to one thread. He anchors anything resembling these without a word, assuming traffic will redirect. Another mod, or maybe the same, occasionally anchors KEK threads, or regular threads that turn dubs'y. Another mod, perhaps the same or different, occasionally cleans house of all things dubbed 'slide thread' by anyone.
If you're expecting consistency you're looking for a regular forum. We're the big board on a moderately sized chan, shits going to run like oatmeal most of the time.
Alexander Lewis
You have no idea what propaganda means do you? I bet you hate memes.
Jaxon Rogers
So what do you guys think about /liberty/ and /brit/,many people say positive things about them.
Joseph Walker
Joyless faggots tbh Trashy Brits, some race mixing, lots of centrism, not my thing!
I suppose that makes sense. A pattern could be established by viewing the ban page of Holla Forums for a week or two and seeing exactly how each mod thinks based on their ban preferences if you really want to get into it. The main mods here are Heil, Iamkampfy and therealmoonman. Those are the most active ones by far at least.
Jack Allen
Great more refugees flooding that's why nobody likes you amerikikes.
Josiah Cooper
I'll be banned for this comment I know but that's okay. They'll try and call it a honeypot, or call it a datamine, or whatever buzzwords they can. They delete all of these comments every time they pop up. All you need to do is look in >>>/polmeta/ for some of the evidence (and yes they delete shit from there too I've witnessed it) and then go and visit the 8ch threads sprouting up on polchan.xyz and endchan where mountains of evidence is being compiled. Go look for yourself fam. Make your own decisions.
Landon Walker
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Charles Garcia
It isn't the western world that is afraid of Russia, the kikes have a very particular specific reason they are using a Russian boogeyman this time around. Is it because of Ukraine? Is it because Russia gives aid to Assad? They are afraid of the EU falling apart and European countries seeking an alliance with Russia to combat the kebab/kike menace? Surely there is more to it than those to reasons; when the media drives fear into world Jewry itself it is because it is looking for a programmed response. Jews have an axe to grind against Russia because? There has to be another reason that isn't as obvious as those.
Ethan Hernandez
The Duran is literally Russian propaganda (it doesn't hide it really, check the names of the people associated with it). VT is shit and is somebody's propaganda, Gordon Duff has a bizarre background if he's even a real person.
That doesn't mean the entire alternative media is controlled by the Russians.
Joseph Ortiz
They're ok I guess. /brit/ needs to watch itself though, lest it become unbearable pozzed. /liberty/ could be better but they'd only be big if it was 2012 or something. I could never get into it because I can't stand lolberg even if I agree with them on a few points but I agree with fucking Holla Forums on a few points too. >>>/4chon/ so far is the only viable alternative to Holla Forums in existence and that's only because it's the original board. There could be more but I don't want the board to be any more divided than it needs to be.
Owen Brooks
Are our mods autistists why can't they work together then,it's not a rule that they should answer to every report just to show they are doing their job.
Mason Lopez
wtf now i love cnn
Josiah Gonzalez
I don't think they should be contacting each other. That would negate the whole anonymity we have here and open them to infiltration.
It's best if we just had ban by popular demand. This is how /baph/ functioned, and I say it functioned very well. Mods were well liked and respected for listening to the users.
Ryan Lee
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Aiden Richardson
The Russian narrative has to be one of the most ill concieved narratives that has been pushed. I understand those new and trendy (((alt-left))) groups want to get into conspiracies, but when they start off making them up rather than discovering them, it just has the opposite effect. I'm actually gaining sympathy for Russians. What caused liberals to become so bloodthirsty? Pussy Riot getting beaten? Some shit-tier musicians being jailed for their subversion? Is that all it takes for them to want to pull the world into another cold war?
Matthew Ramirez
The article is by Brandon Martinez (Zion Crime Factory), he's been around for much longer than the Aut-Right.
This entire site is compromises user. This is officially cuckchan 2.0 now. I'm not sure if you've noticed. Dare you mention any real values of National Socialism and they'll call you a kike (it's now a meme, rather than combatting actual kikes). Sad! Dare you mention image boards that actually have accrued evidence proving how this happened and why, and they'll call it a honeypot. Sad! Look for yourselves anons. Wake up.
Ayden Reyes
If anyone wants to see the site these obvious faggots are shilling, here's a few screenies. It's like 300 or so of the most retarded autists made their own Holla Forums. Not worth the time.
Isaac Bell
yah nah ur a cunt.
Jason Baker
Mention some of the Autist, I wont call you a kike probably
Xavier Roberts
Hello imkikey.
Mason Morales
Hello imkikey.
Ayden Smith
It's also filled with TRSodomites.
Angel Gomez
I didn't make a single post, and you can actually see that the post in question was made on the 31st of January. You tried. Answer my question, what are the faggot?
Carter Lee
how much glue do you have to huff to keep up your shitposting regimen?
Jaxon Torres
The Duran is being actively shilled by JasalleJash on >>>/newsplus/ Obviously, the (((Kremlin))) has paid its PutinShekels to Jim in adequate measure
Jayden Barnes
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Gavin Gray
I'm pretty sure Jim took over this board after the original owner got 'accidentally' banned by him. It would explain why nobody ever found out what happened after that (who became the new BO?). The mods are probably just following Jim's orders.
Oliver Perry
Can someone explain the proofs meme to me? I'm assuming it's based on a stereotype of Russian shills on Krautchan or one of the other eurochans.
Hunter Perez
For one, not promoting degeneracy in any fashion. Every day it's these 'dude weed lmao' posts on the board, sliding the important redpill threads about pedophilia and/or media kikery. We continue to see the massive influx of cuckchan tier quality threads be allowed whilst serious redpill and self awareness and motivational threads are deleted and those users banned. Take a look around user. Its beyond obvious.
Michael Martin
Who could have guessed it?
Blake Harris
I should add, the meaning of the meme is self evident I think. I'm more interested in where it came from.
Jordan Moore
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Gavin Edwards
knowyourmeme.com/memes/proofster
David Fisher
They're absolutely following Jim's orders: Divide and Conquer and contain and bring in traffic. Sell data. Webms from their "press conference" show this.
Juan Thomas
You mean dividing us from the poor TRSodomites who dindu nuffin?
Dylan Phillips
It's part of "Duganism" They play to their audience like good Soviet subversives. See >>>/n/518599
Liam Anderson
thanks. for some reason I thought it would be too obscure to be on that site.
Brandon Cooper
You need to go read Goebble's essay on morality user. Everything else I would agree with, but fagchan looks legitimatly retarded. I'm being 100% serious I browsed a few threads and you all sound retarded. Maybe it's me and I've been on h8chan for too long and I've become intolerant of other typing styles. Maybe it's just preference. But you all read like absolute idiots. Thread quality is horrendous, most replies are a sentence or two, which isn't a bad thing, but they're devoid of substance. Even if everything you allege is true, i fucking doubt it, you sperg like a Crew kiddy this is the obviously superior board.
Lincoln Watson
you homos just aren't natural tbh
Jeremiah Thomas
kym is pretty good at recording stuff now but it'll never be what it used to be, I even forget the old name but that database was solid before it got nuked. I wish I remembered the old name.
Jacob Perez
You know the best part of freedom of choice? You can go look for yourselves and make your own conclusion.
Luke Bailey
Mostly true but it just so happens Russian media is right in most cases with the one expectation being international policies which most of us don't care about. Contrary to what the jewtin bots say Russia is not an ethno state but instead a multi ethic shit hole where any ethno nationalist parties are banned and just like europe Jews control the economy(arguably worse than any other country) and questioning the pro Communist history is banned. However I can't help feel that this thread is designed to justify Trump's future anti Russian neocon policies so I'm not going to bump.
Lincoln Jackson
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Jackson Perry
Pathetic.
Henry Allen
lol
Levi Lee
I did and it was shit. Answer my pointyou fucking goon.
Luis Ramirez
I looked at it during the night of the long dildos and the only thing I've found were bunch of moron making excuses for TRS. Stay there if you like it.
Michael Wood
Also I'll ask here, because this thread is gonna get nuked any second, why are endchanners such massive fags?
Hudson Garcia
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Jack Garcia
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Lincoln Cooper
Why do you think? They're almost universally shills or failed Holla Forumsacks.
Jonathan Miller
Wait, mike has to pay 12k to his ex wife ?
Wyatt Rivera
Forgot to add that if Ukraine isn't an ethic state then Russia is even less of one. Ukraine will most likely never be one state again and the western part needs to come to terms with that. Better giving up the land than living with Russians anyway.
Xavier Bennett
Wew tbh.
Juan Clark
Wew the levels of faggotry in this thread is off the charts
Jayden Mitchell
Tbh, if Trump doesn't turn against the kikes within the first 3 years of his term, the endchan oldfags will have been right and anons here would've fallen for the worst ZOG OP in the history of imageboard culture.
Tyler Cook
Trump never promised to turn on the kikes, he promised to deport illegals, build a wall, rebuild the military and put America First. If he goes after the kikes in a year or two then we get the God Emperor we deserve, but if he doesn't then that's our job to do. The overton window needs to be pushed harder and faster, and we need to do it. Holla Forumsacks should be working at getting into government and exploiting the opportunities Trump will provide.
Colton Reed
Russia has never been a nation. It's an empire of ethnic nation states forged by blood, war and expansionist ideology. That's why Russia has always had an authoritarian government for its entire 1000 year history
Benjamin Brooks
Where is the conflict of interest between Russians and Americans?
I'm sure Holla Forums is more concerned about the jews. What intelligence agency actually helps out the citizens of their own country? FBI?
What does Crimea or Syria have to do with the interest of Americans?
Russia and America are very similar these days, so its kind of hilarious that the old cold war propaganda is being revived. It's so convenient!
Go ahead, dig all you want, im sure you'll find a bunch of different agencies in civilian space. That's how they operate.
Jose Hernandez
You just explained perfectly everything wrong with Russia. If it's not an ethno state what's the point?
Aaron Anderson
Because they are blackpilled as fuck and also do literally nothing whatsoever to help via meme warfare or new ideas but just bitch about everything and tell you how fucked you are. I actually agree with them on some points but when you point out that some of their blackpills are not exactly supported by facts or reality they sperg out and are just massive cunts. It sucks because we might honestly need a backup chan or a bunker in the near future if the mods kike out enough but endchan is blackpilled and full of fags and polchan kinda sucks, so I don't know what to use.
Luis Gonzalez
Unfortunately it looks like he's only going to be deporting illegal alien criminals, and though he's putting America First this act seems to accompany putting Israel first. I'm not belittling the achievements made for civic nationalists and shifting muh overton window, but I'm not a civic nationalist and the future of h'white America is at the point of no return. Unless he deports every single illegal, which I doubt he will, rather invoking Reagan by granting amnesty to 'those hard-working, true blooded hispanic Americans' in order to appeal to the GOP's handlers, there will be no radicalization of the base leading to racial nationalism or national socialism. The ashkenazi jews he's appointed to his cabinet will prove over time that this was a control valve for the growing segment of radicalized, young, white males. I of course hope I'm wrong, but I'm going to buy into a cult of personality as manufactured by a PR firm in Tel Aviv.
Camden Baker
Ivan, if Trump was Russian, he would have been imprisoned, exiled or poisoned, not elected as President. The whole reason Putin tried to conflate his image with Trump's was to promote a narrative of sameness when, in fact, a Russian nationalist trying to overturn the established order is Putin's worst nightmare. What Putin fears most is a Trump-style nationalist riding a wave of populism. You would see that shut down faster than a Soyuz rocket. www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-39094596
Jaxon Martin
Have you ever considered the logistics of deporting 11 million entrenched people? He's simply doing triage, preventing mass panic while virtue signaling to libtards that he's not Adolph Hitler and is only getting rid of the "bad guys." He has 8 years to push all the beans back to Mexico, so FFS stop sperging and give the man a change.
Dominic Ward
What Putin fears most is absolutely nothing. FTFY. There will never be strong opposition allowed to gain a foothold in Russia, comrade.
Kayden Thomas
Whats the problem with Putin? Who would be better?
Ryan Ortiz
Dunno. Ask a Russian. Oh wait, they've all been killed or imprisoned. Also, mods anchoring this thread tells you all you need to know about their allegiance to kikes and shekels.
Jordan Brooks
sorry, was responding to
FTFY
Luke Smith
I support Russia over the USA, so if people are consuming Russian propaganda rather than American propaganda, then I would consider that a good thing.