Isn't solidarity a spook...

Isn't solidarity a spook? Why should I care about the struggles of like a hundred million pajeets (I'm talking about that big labor strike). I actually saw a small solidarity march for it btw and I wondering why I should.

Recently converted polack btw

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Solidarity is more of an emotion, in my opinion.

try to show some empathy for the little man, Holla Forums

If a hundred million pajeets manage to strike and win, you can rally people around their success. It can inspire people in that sense. Their struggle is your struggle; the struggle against capitalism. Porky is terrified of that kind of "contagion".

I don't know if you were paying attention when the Arab Spring was going on, but the uprisings triggered (heh) bourgeois fears as far away as China. And to prove the point I'll pose a source in no danger of being accused of Marxism: brookings.edu/articles/unease-from-afar/

Immaterial concepts aren't necessarily spooks. They become spooks when they possess people. Being possessed by a spook is undesirable because the individual spends their life serving this immaterial concept at the expense of their own well being and rational desires.

Here you go. Read Stirner and be spooked no longer.

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Well, think about it like this, if the pajeets succeed in their struggle then they are going to be less likely to immigrate to your precious country.
Pretty cool, huh?

Solidarity without organization - is.

Solidarity of the working class across the globe affords Capitalists and their Capital no safe haven.

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I wish mine was still alive

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If the pajeets succeed that means they get to help you.

May wanna work on your empathy and lose your tribalism.

The Pajeets are rebelling against the same porky who keeps Jamal in the ghetto, Cletus in the trailer park, and Carlos in the barrio. Maybe if Cletus, Carlos, and Jamal show some support to Pajeet, when they need help Pajeet helps them. Solidarity is a way of increasing the likelihood of others helping you in your struggle, not some feel good liberal trash.

It also has the added bonus of making you feel good yourself for helping another human being.

this is not great

Is that n1x?

Dogs snore?

Are you implying that there are dogs that DON'T snore? What?

If you aren't interested in solidarity, don't be upset when your job gets outsourced to a country with lower wages and fewer regulations.

I mean, mine never did. Not anything that I would associate with a snore anyway

It's really hard man. Considering I've been an edgy alt-right dipshit for such a long time. I still have a hard time seeing people for thier qualities and ignoring race. Like if I see some guy walking by the first thing I'm subconvousiously aware of is his race. Like my brain will register "it's a fucking spic" before it registers anything else about the person.


Ok, that makes sense. But for instance if pajeet's or ching's wages are raised, wouldn't that make my goods more expensive? I actually thought that exploitation of the third world is in my self intrest since I'll indirectly reap the benefits of it?

youtube.com/watch?v=SsWs6bf7tvI

A short video on the topic, titled we are built to care.

Of course one of the points, which is that rich people have no empathy, is what helps to explain where we are.

Pretty much. Really tired of people asking if ___ is a spook without fucking having read Stirner first.

Because it is in your selfish personal interest to make society better for everyone in your class.

The class conflict is not ideological, it is practical. It cannot be resolved from a perspective of self interest without violence

I don't think that's correct. For any worker trying to get a better life, the path of least resistance is never overthrowing the bourgeoisie, it's joining them. In that way, class conflict is in no single individual's practical self interest. It has to rely on solidarity.

Your personal interest has been replaced by society's interest or your class interest thus being pretty damn poltergeistish.

You should socialize more IRL, get friends.

Solidarity has a basis in helping your fellow man achieve what we all need as a global society.

You should care about workers around the world because we will only achieve communism on a united planet. If the labour movement gets strong in one part of that planet then that is good for all of us.

Because they share a common interest with you, if you're a worker. You don't have to feel "empathy" for them, but you should care if their struggle is the same as yours, because it's in your own interest. That's the egoist way of seeing it, there's no need to be "empathic" or altruist to join a struggle against the ruling class.

I have to live in that society/class you dip.

When solidarity is mutual it serves your ego. When you support pajeet, pajeet can later support you.

First they came for pajeet, but I was not pajeet, so I did nothing. Then they came for svetlana, but I was not svetlana, so I did nothing, then they came for Hank, but I was not Hank, so I did nothing, then they came for me and pajeet and Hank and svetlana were slaving in a factory for a penny and hour and were too tired or suicidal to give a fuck about me.

Solidarity as a spooky concept is more likely to be that which has taken on more of a 'proletarian pride' characteristic, or celebrating the nationalism of a "socialist" state. When it ceases to be solidarity in the sense of mankind uniting for shared interests and betterment, and grows into the word 'Solidarity' that might be used to describe a government incentive for workers to work harder, or root out alleged spies, or give up on certain comforts… That is when it becomes spooky.

Waving the red flag and singing proletarian songs has a long history of being spooky in the USSR.

Think about it this way. The corner banger peddling dope, speaking ebonics and pumping and dumping laneeshas is as representative of your average black as the inbred retards in the bible-belt shooting at each other and speaking what may as well be an aboriginal dialect, are of the average white, and both are there because capitalism fucked them over. It's pretty simple really.

You're thinking about it backwards. You shouldn't be against them earning their fair share. You should be against porky baking on them for absurd profit margins.

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Dont bother with leftism then, they ganne reset the whole damn thing.

What stereotype is Hank?

That is nihilism-tan though, yes.

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He's probably a man who works in Texas that sells propane and propane accessories

Hank is a uniquely burgerfat name, Hank is a tradishnul Union man in warehouse factory that makes parts for other factories that make cars

This
Hank Hill is a great example of working class American.

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at this point being a millionaire isn't even scraping bourg. that's petty bourgeois because there's no way you're going to be able to live purely on income off property alone.

The tax system is designed that way, so there is no social climbing.
In Germany you have to pay taxes by percents until you reach a threshold, then it's just a fix sum, you can pay no matter how much money you have.

Because rich people aren't stupid, they don't want unnecessary competition from upstarts.

It can be. It isn't always. Someone who shows solidarity because they realize that it is the most effective way for them to secure their own interests is not spooked by solidarity. Someone who thinks that solidarity in and of itself needs to be adhered to and will put the solidarity above their own interests (in so far as that's possible, seeing as it's not actually entirely possible) then they would be spooked about solidarity.


Because your interests tend to align with their interests more than the interests of the people they are striking against (I'm going to take a wild guess that you're a prole), and the more often things like this happen, the more they advance your own interest.

It's not a spook because they're brown and brown people are sacred to the left. When white people do the same thing it becomes a spook.

this post deserves a meme review

Plot twist.
When the egoist-with-perspective concludes that it is in it's best interest to abide by certain spook.

Also the point of calling abstract concepts spooks is not to declare them forever wrong and invalid, but to disarm the intrinsic trust/value put in them by tradition or culture.

Solidarity is important, user. We must show our support for working-class struggle whenever possible, as long as its aims are for emancipation of the average person from social and economic control. This serves quite the purpose in bolstering the confidence and momentum of their movement, as well as reverberating some of that energy to our own. Consider the impression large groups of people moving through the city gives to by-standards; this is now a first-hand perspective impressed upon a person whose view until that point had only been filtered through the mainstream media. Increased presence at marches, demonstrations and protests makes our movements look more popular as well, and acts to impress upon populations at large (things are more socially acceptable or desirable when many people do it without last negative effects)

But the main reason shouldn't be the material or social gain to our movements – it should be the sense of camaraderie and family created helping our sisters and brothers who wish only to see the existence of a better world.

Found another person whose world-view consists of memes.

Am I spooked if I show solidarity to other because it makes me feel good?

No, user, it makes you human

I'm trying. It's quite difficult when you've been an alienated outcast your whole life. Maybe that's why I drifted towards alt rightism in the first place, because it told me that I was strong and special simply for being white and the eternal Jew and his campaign to destroy white society was why I had no one to talk to

Joining the ruling class is a suicidal gamble for most working class people.

dont worry 90% of the board are recently converted polacks and think similar to you. When you actually start reading you'll graduate from leftypol and join the smaller and much better leftist boards

I reckon the best place to make friends is with a hobby. Do you like dungeons and dragons, card games, acting/theater, sports, political discussion or anything like that? There are often groups that meet up at community centers or churches to do things like that and its a fun way to meet new people.

That actually is usually how people are pulled to the right in general. Easy answers for difficult problems.

Eh, the answers can't be that easy if they've still failed to accomplish any of what they set out to do.

OP was just too smart for the lies.

Except the rich are the ones paying the most taxes.
Also taxes shouldn't even exist for people working on minimum wage.

They are intent on creating a mob, even if online only. They are fairly successful, it seems.

Read the whole post your faggot

Your interests and the striking pajeets interests are the same even though you live far apart from each other. You both want your class to seize power and overthrow the bosses of your country. A successful pajeet labor strike can inspire labor strikes or other significant revolutionary action in your country. International connection and support (solidarity) makes us stronger and makes it easier to achieve our goals.

The well being of the people is not my well being
t. Stirner's exact words

That's not necessarily true, and isn't telling him he's special and smart precisely what he believes pol did to trick him? OP just wanted to see the world beyond just what Holla Forums repeated to him. Smart and dumb men alike can choose to stay in the box, or to open it and look outside. I guess OP found that outside the box things look different.

My perspective is more important to me than Stirner's.

Actually, it was very idpol-y, the way that I pulled away from away from the alt right. I'm actually only half white and I came to the sudden realization that I couldn't reconcile my personal identity with being alt right

I find it strange you identify with "alt right" my alt right friends are always trying to claim they aren't alt right and that "Holla Forums hates the alt right".

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It is a spook.

Its really less of a fixed idea and more of a fixed physical reality beating you with sticks until you agree to do what it says.

But needing to care about people you've never met and probably will never meet by virtue of that share relationship is a spook.

I didn't actually. I called myself a "race realist"

"spook spook spook"

this is literally the same retarded level of the regular Holla Forumsack going "cuck cuck cuck"
it's void of meaning and nothing but a reflex of people that can't formulate an argument and have no fucking education in the first place

i'm done with this place, it's utter cancer
i'll remain with my discussion in the realm of reality from now on
there people always silence down when i'm done with them
and if they dare fucking speak shit i'll just kick them in their balls and make sure they wont procreate

I don't see how that idea subjects man to it. In what way does it make you change yourself or arrange yourself around it? It is a feeling, not a call to action or sacrifice. It is something felt to satisfy one's self, not a commandment.

….cant people just understand what a fucking spook is?

Calm down nigger.

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literally ragequitting wew

could be depending on the context.
Just about anything can become a spook, because nearly anything can form a fixed idea around it.
On its own, its more of a shared feeling of unity between two or more people.

if only

aka completely dead

Holy fuck, does no one on this board read anything? This is textbook commodity fetishism.

Its literally the only tool you have to fight the capitalist regime. What are you as an individual going to do that you can't do with millions of people?

Stay class conscious nigger

Solidarity as a tool is a smart way to put it, actually.
We aren't subjected to solidarity, it's only a means to an ends.
Solidarity isn't the end goal.
If it were compulsory solidarity, I could see how it could get a little spooky, i guess.

That is, what he meant with my quote is that the greater good is not necessarily in your interest. OP can not give a damn fuck about those pajeets, if he doesn't care. Of course, their struggle is useful to any of us, it is useful for yourself, but "the self" is a spook. If I truly cared about my "self", I wouldn't be shitposting here, for example.

Yeah.


Compulsory solidarity is a spook. For example, "left solidarity". Wanting people ideologically opposed to each to stand in "solidarity" because they all dislike their material conditions.

nice shilling, cointelpro

I would rather keep regular Capitalism than go through another ML era.

You are basing your whole argument on spooks to begin with

ealy ML USSR was spooked as fuck aswell

Every time I see these spook's threads I get so mad, like, do you even read like 3 chapters of a Stirner book?
Solidarity in an egoist society would be a spirit, not a spook.

Ideology is a spook.

Your move fag who doesn't understand Stirner

Would you feel better if I said "wanting people with completely different goals being forced to stand in solidarity with each other because they share a common material struggle".

Not really the same as ideology but assuming that it is:

If the goals don't involve bettering your current circumstances in order to serve your ego, which usually means the betterment of your material struggle,

If you don't cooperate with other working class people you are going to continue getting fucked by the capitalists.
Does it serve your ego that you get barely anything out of the work that you do?
Does it serve your ego to have a particular way of life (material possessions and the upper class lifestyle) be forced on you and everyone around you 24/7 through education and advertisements?
Does it serve your ego that the planet is dying?
Does it serve your ego that this system causes people to go ballistic and shoot up schools?

Because the only thing that isn't definitively a spook, even by Stirner meme standards, is the common material struggle. You'd do well to keep that in mind.

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read Stirner fag, I don't serve my ego, my ego serves me.

They didn't read at all. Why do you think they are asking?

Look what the Irish did to blacks in the US. People are happy to jump on the bacon train

my fellow half-breed convert, welcome to reality