Refugees btfo

wow, why don't you just become muslim already?

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You seem like the kind of cuck who wouldn't pull the lever if 900 people were on the default rail and 1 guy on the other rail. Unless you actually believe in the spook that I should give more of a shit about some people than others because they're more culturally similar to me.
Seriously I never understood that even before I got despooked.

It only show to me how that there is no different between SJWs and AltRight tbh

If anything by using this argument you shot yourself in the foot Right wing SJW

I remember legit Nazis using this a few years back

This feminist logic always makes me laugh, exactly because its the same logic that leads to OP.

it's not like either thought is actually wrong, every couple of refugees there's got to be a bad (violent) one. the same thing for every relationship (male or female).

I don't really know what the answer is, how do we protect ourselves from terrorists, and shady people in general?

Build walls around your house. Fortify yourself.
Never get out.
#protected

that's not an answer either, especially in a bad economy when owning a house is almost impossible, let alone getting the materials and expertise necessary to fortify it against hostile invasion from either local thugs or a corrupt wayward government.

yet still that's probably more doable than protecting yourself from psychopaths that only can only see you as an object to either exploit or destroy.

was meant for

Don't talk to people, people are evil.

that also doesn't help, humans are social creatures. unless you are completely self-sufficient you have to deal with other people to survive.

Yeah, uh huh. So what if someone said that you should avoid women because every few would cut your dick off given the chance?

He would be right, bitches are crazy ==BITCHES ARE CRAZY AND THEY ARE COMING FOR YOUR DICK, DON'T GO OUTSIDE, KILL YOUSELF TO PREVENT FUTURE DAMAGE==

I guess the best you can do is make sure never to get drunk or fall asleep around women and always sleep in a separate room that has a lock, on to mention carry around personal defense such as bear-mace or stun gun if possible. that would deter most types of crazy bitch.

alternatively, just hang out with your mom ( as long as she's not crazy)

also, never date anyone or associate with anyone that identifies themselves as a feminist/activist of any kind, no matter how benign they seem.

also don't let your brain chemistry/dick make decisions for you when it comes to the people you hang around. feel people out first, find out what makes them tick before you let them into your circle. patients and vigilanceare the best tools we have

It was sarcasm you sperg.

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It makes sense, since I as an American feel no empathy towards Syrians or Middle East.

I had a feeling it was, but I thought I should answer seriously anyway just in case you had crippling autism/ some other type of anxiety disorder.

everybody dies, all of us are dying right now.

What are you talking about? I own two homes. One I live in, and the other I rent out for income.

This sentence doesn't even make sense. How and why would "being an American" cause you to not be able to feel empathy for non-Americans?

Their proximity. Further away from me somenoene is, I feel less empathy for them. I can only empathise with people I know.

Did you have an advanced positioning system integrated into your brain?

So, I take it you would feel more empathy for Moroccans than for Germans?

So why would you be able to feel any empathy for "Americans", only an extremely tiny portion of which you actually know?

good for you, most people aren't that lucky.

Well congratulations, now you get to feel sympathy for them because they're being moved to the US and you can stop being a gigantic asshole.

yes
Maybe.
I already don't empathise with 99% of Americans.
YOU WON'T MAKE ME TAKE IN ANY REFUGEES REEEEEEEEEEEEE

no fuck you
I AIN'T TAKING IN ANYONE
REEEEEE FUCK OF LIBERALS

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Disregard that, was probably shitpost. At least i hope so.

Your excuse was proximity. Since there are now syrians in the US, do you feel empathy for them? They're just as close to you as other Americans.

Only if they embrace American culture and learn English. If they are hardcore Muslims I ain't empathizing them.

So you at least somewhat admit that this "proximity" thing was nonsense, uh.

What is "American culture"? Burgers and Christ?

They probably know a bit of English already. Not a huge issue.

We certainly don't empathize with religious fundamentalists here either.

You do realize that's what these refugees are fleeing, right?

America is a big ass country, do you know everyone living there?

Somehow I don't think the actual math works out on these Skittles memes.

ok, how many of you are willing to accept refugees?
just take them into your house or something
like holy shit, i thought you were more rational than liberals but looks like i was wrong

If I told you 100% of all jews were sick inbred greedy thieving subhuman monsters set on destroying human civilisation and feed off us like venomous parasites, would you gas them all?

Yes.

YES.

YES.

Why do all reactionary retards feel the need to bring up that "just take them into your house lol" bullshit every time they get the chance?

I don't get it. Many of these people follow ideologies that would be labeled totally reactionary if they weren't poor oppressed Muslim third-worlders, but apparently Americans need to suck it up and accept the risks inherent in importing these people anyway. I guess you can argue that Syrians didn't ask for the US government to start a civil war, so US citizens have to deal with Syrian refugees as punishment. I still don't feel bad enough for them to have them move in near me.

#FeminazisForTrump

Trump vs. Clinton

If I told you the furniture in your house had a 1 in 20 million chance of killing you, would you throw it all away tomorrow?

Yes.

Let's say I live in LA, or right next to the border with Baja California. Why should I give a fuck about yanks in Maine 3,000 miles away?

New York is only like 5,000 miles away from Syria. You're homo.

hhaahhahahahaha don't drive or go outside at all any time soon

You know what the difference between a "refugee" and an "immigrant" is right? Refugees didn't just one day decide they were going to move and live in the US because it has welfare checks.

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Nobody ever mentioned "diversity".

Go back to Holla Forums.

That's not the real reason, the real reason is to use them as scabs.

Why Holla Forums supports scabs I just don't know, but all scabs should be shot and so should anyone who helps scabs enter the country.

hence why americans are vile pigs that deserve death

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That's the spooky liberal part of it all. Muh diversity. But no refugees because muh nationalism is just as spooky.

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skittle discourse produced this golden tweet

it's really funny to see the far-right adopting these feminist memes from a couple years ago. Same bullshit but a different group is the target

"Isolated incident, doesn't mean we shouldn't support them."
"Assad is Satan!"

vidmax.com/video/143273-Obama-backed-Syrian-rebels-behead-a-10-year-old-child-CENSORED-

And Pepe was created by this semen demon

This is why nationalism is garbage. Syrians are human, same as you.

The difference is I'm not going to behead Syrians for their religious views, while I'm sure quite a large portion of the Syrian population would be happy seeing the same happen to me

The Syrians who want to behead others over religion already signed up with the rebellion. The ones who don't want to behead or be beheaded are the ones fleeing.

Were the tables turned, these Syrians wouldn't care about you. You know that, don't you? The only reason first worlders and some second worlders care so much about these people is because they're pampered so much that they don't care, or even notice their own huge problems. You know, even then, the most sympathetic goat herders with the fewest problems, will not give a shit about you. You know, we are encouraged to "help" the third world by giving food, medical supplies, etc, but you know that harms them more, right? Their populations are too big to be sustained with their current technology, and even their general mindset. You know, without western gifts, Africa would eat itself? It has to now, though, could have been prevented, but no, it will happen, because of thinking that outside support would help, well, it does not. His statement has nothing to do with nationalism, it's just common sense, which most people lack in the first world. By the way, have you ever met a "refugee"?

Thanks for admitting Assad is waifu

(snip Malthusian idiocy)

I don't want him to crush Rojava and the SDF, he belongs in a Hague prison for crimes against humanity. But compared to the rebels these days (apart from a small number of groups who Jaish al-Fatah and company will easily overpower in the event of rebel victory) he's definitely the lesser evil.

looks like i triggered you

No Assad would mean the destruction of the entire region by Israel, USA, and friends. Rojava and SDF are American puppets and will be smashed easily when they're no longer needed.

I don't think major concerns with population growth and the current state of the global environment is anything to handwave away, unless you're a lolbertarian autist that thinks the FREE MARKET will magically fix everything (and if it doesn't, well, Mad Max was a pretty cool series)

First of all, most of these refugees come from wartorn areas where the war itself they are running from has been fostered by the very same nations that now run media campaigns demonizing them. Responsibility is a thought that comes to mind, I thought you right-wing faggots were all about that? Responsibility for your actions, cause and effect? No? Nevermind.

Secondly, most of these 'poorer countries' historically and in the contemporary age take in millions of refugees and economic migrants every year.
Syria itself, had (much less now being torn to pieces by war interests) refugee camps and took in those fleeing hostilities. Same with Libya, same with Iraq, same with .

As for Africa, without western interference they'd probably be a continent of highly developed social democracies of some type, some straight up commies, and mostly with a socialist bent (these were the governments, officials and groups that were hunted and killed in most of the 'undeveloped world' by the imperial powers, so it's not just theorycrafting).

What was left, though, was the only thing which was allowed to exist (as it posed no threat to global capitalism); which was capitalist accepting nation states blubbering unity rhetoric based around ethno-mystical nationalism.

is it really controversial to say that you prefer one person from the same arbitrary set of borders as you dying instead of thousands from a different arbitrary set of borders?

you gooks would know all about being puppets

nice meme bro!

What media campaigns demonizing them? Trump saying "mean mean" things in America? Is that it? You can be jailed for saying the wrong things, what do you mean? Are you saying that revolutionary centrists such as myself are to blame for porky's destruction of nations? You know, all of the countries you listed collapsed from constant warfare and human movement, huh… Regardless, I must agree with you, to an extent, that Europe and America must be completely destroyed by themselves and foreigners.

Would you say that to my fucking face?

not sure i could since im probably like a foot taller than you

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Syrian refugees aren't even the criminal demographic in Europe. Most of the refugees committing crimes are from politically stable North African nations, or from nations that were destroyed by the US years ago and have since become extremely religions out of nationalist sentiments.

The German government essentially treats them as one in the same.

I have no idea what you're talking about. I'm not an Ameriburger and I'm referencing the campaigns to foster the diversion from capitalism untowards a demonization of migrants, and refugees (surplus labor required by the ever growing profit growht of the capitalist system to continue to begin with) typically based on and the conclusions of the exploitation and wars waged in the name of capitalism, of the very same nations that invoke this demonization campaign (both sides of the coin, nice little distraction, turning it all into a either 'pro immigrant or anti immigrant but don't you dare look at the causes of it!').

Beyond that I don't give a fuck what trump says about it, as that means nothing, he's just another capitalist pig like all the rest (and probably just there to make hillary seem like a better choice, to make people think they're engaged in the political system when they 'choose' her when infact the whole voting is rigged from the get go… so it's just the illusion of consent they're after, to avoid people from recognizing that they have zero say whatsoever in anything, which is obvious by how much the media avoids talking about the fraud that happened in the US elections).

On immigration itself, I have no feelings about it. It's completely natural. Under a capitalist system it will be used to divide people up against eachother, but the concept itself is part and parcel of humanity. People migrate, that's how we continue to exist. Cultures merge and mix, and large popular places become melting pots for all sorts of people with all sorts of opinions from all over the world (no I'm not talking about New York). The most popular trade routes where the most commerce was being done in the ancient world, also happen to have the most diversity of people from all over the world. The most 'scientific' minded places, where the most research and writing and arts were being done also, happen to coincide with this. It used to be seen as a sign of prosperity.

Most of us don't care, there are a few Anarkids who are into open boarders and stuff.
No one advocated for anything, you came in and spilled your spooks all over us.

My view is that if those fags are as secular and democratic as they claim they should try to change their own fucking country (by helping Rojava, maybe) instead of simply getting those benefits from other countries where people already fought and died for them.
Marxists are Internationalists and National Sovereignty is a pretty big thing for us (see Lenin's policy toward ethnic and religious minorities in the USSR)

The world currently produces enough food to feed 10 billion people, Africa's population density is more than half of Europe's and the continent is at least 4 times bigger.
There is no need to fund any retarded family management, schools with suffice.

And by that I mean that people should be helped at home.
youtube.com/watch?v=dzW4F9LKYhU
There's a reason why the Internationale is sung in every language and folk culture is often incorporated in anti-Imperialist practice (pro-tip, it's not because we want to turn humanity into a homogenous blob, Capitalism is already doing that)

is less than half*

Posts like this make me wonder if anyone here even read Stirner. How can you claim to be despooked and use utilitarian arguments in the same sentence?

No and probably no.

That about sums up the billionaire class.

Disingenuous because it's not one life for thousands of Syrians.

Fuck the refugees. Maybe a temporary/properly implemented women and (YOUNG) children policy makes sense on humanitarian terms, but that's about it. and I say this as a Marxist and a communist.

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class war 2016

Proof IDpol is cancer.
They even use the same arguments. Fucking unbelievable.

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Men flee because they don't want to be conscripted by ISIS or Assad, they're the ones who have the most need to leave the country.

kek

if they're "men" they should grow some balls and fight against both, like Kurdish WOMEN have been doing. I have no respect for cowardly shitbags, nor for the thousands of Arab men masquerading as war refugees who are really just economic refugees eager to make it to the Swedish dole to buy an iPhone.

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uhhh that isn't really a statistical issue iirc

i know it's easy to just be like "fuggin femurnists. we're not those kinds of leftists pls love us Holla Forums" but really at least muh MnMs is actually based on something that men actually do kind of a lot?

We've got a bunch of pizza-faced teenage "Communists" who slobber all over the jocks of every two-bit tyrant and terrorist who opposes the US. This is the state of the left today.

fuck off reddit

Why the fuck does this have 100 posts when it should've been saged right the fuck out?
Can we please just make a pastebin with some standard reply and convince the mods to use bumplocking more liberally?

neat argument

Thanks, yours is shit too. There's no rape epidemic. Go away liberal.

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Nobody cares, fuck off with your idpol.

You too

And you too

And you too.

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What is the 'leftist issue' you're spouting off about?

what
I was telling the other guy to fuck off.
Just saying that you're being a part of the problem by engaging him.

anti-indentitarianism. y'all seem only concerned when the liberals do it and it's really telling

Well, the alt right is just as wrong, if not more, but they're not the ones we have to worry about co-opting leftism now are they? Telling them to get out is pretty pointless but we do it anyway. I don't see how most of the people on this board accept reactionism.

AHAHAHAHA
Lurk more god damnit.
We are being fucking raided by Holla Forums non-stop, every single thread somebody calls them out for being idpol.
holy shit dude

american politics 101

Also, making anti-identitarianism a core part of the boards discussion isn't a ploy to get Holla Forums-converts. It's to emphasize that leftism is about societal change that results in social change, not societal change focused on social change.

ITT: hello fellow leftists