Leftists for Trump

Facts:

• Capitalism will inevitably collapse and is in the process of doing so.

• The sooner Capitalism collapses the better to minimize additional damage.

• Liberalism is capitalism's best friend. It is life support for capitalism: without liberal policies capitalism would have long been overthrown in America and the Western world.

• The right-wing having its way and enacting its desired policies is the best way to make capitalism collapse quickly.

Therefore, if you are a leftist you should be voting for Trump. There is no American politician alive who will hasten Capitalism's collapse more than Trump. His possible election is a "high-impact" economic risk: gfs.eiu.com/Article.aspx?articleType=gr&articleId=2947

Why aren't you /accelerationist/ yet?

Accelerationism just leads to fascism. See Germany. The world is far further from leftism now than it was in the 50s, and capitalism is totally dominant now. By accelerationist logic the fall of the Soviet Union and dominance of neoliberalism should have brought socialism but the opposite is true.

And this leads to the inevitable fall of nations that adopt it. See: WWII.

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Explain this, considering said right wing are also liberals

The cold war derailed that, and decimated leftist thought in America. As America was one of the few Western countries that wasn't bombed to all hell it became an economic powerhouse and there was prosperity because of it. The situation is very different now, and saying "it didn't work then, it won't work now" is invalid.

ITT: americans argue about their super popular tv-show "United States presidential election"

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i wish they didn't kill off B████ so soon it seemed like his arc wasn't complete

He killed himself, he was just a sheep herder for the Dem Party.

Except that Stormfags will not collapse capitalism with their "policies" but will change their economic agenda to neoliberalism the moment they will take office. Also corruption.
Stormfags are the last line of cannonfodder in late capitalism.

good wage slave

Honestly I just want to see Holla Forums have to admit who utterly wrong they were.

as a communist from the very depths of my soul i have been thinking long and hard whether to vote for trump to see crippling poverty in america increase and for the rich to get richer thanks to his neoliberalist policies… it seems like a leftist resurgence could be possible only when everything has gone to complete and total shit nowadays anyway (we are almost to complete and total shit). but part of me really really likes america, i was born here and i like it a lot and it hurts me to see this country get hurt thanks to illiterate right wingers even if it does mean something good can come out of a quicker collapse.

i dunno, i'm still trying to decide what to do as a floridafag… even though 1 vote doesn't matter

if you're going to protest vote, just go with jill stein. same thing, really

also, it'll be funny to watch the dems scramble and blame the greens again

yeah i guess i'll just do that.

The actual right are nationalist. You're thinking of cuckservatives.

America is accelerating to doom regardless of who wins the bourgie horse race. Trump won't do shitall without his Republican minders, so you have a reasonable idea of what to expect - more of the same failed Bush/Reagan policies.

Ive been hearing that for over a hundred years now.
Its like some Christcuck telling everyone the endtimes are near.

you need to have your head checked if you are on the left for trump

To anyone else considering voting Trump, your vote is almost certainly not going to change the results of the election, but if you vote for Stein or some other third-party candidate, it will boost the profile of that candidate and party. Now, a third party will never have a chance in a two party system, but there are two positive effects to this. ONE, people will see the results and how many votes third parties get and they will be pushed toward class consciousness because they'll see further evidence that the system is rigged. TWO, both parties are in crisis at the moment and headed for collapse and something will have to replace them to keep the machine running; increasing a party's profile increases their chances of doing this.

Fun fact: in Georgia she isn't even going to be on the ballot. We will have to write her in.

Candidates also have to register in order to be eligible for write-in. Let that shit sink in for a minute…

Actually, they'll stay up and running no matter how hated they are. Because no third party will be allowed to have real power.

Individual parties have died and been replaced before. The two-party system is what they need to maintain. Keeping a party alive when everyone hates it would be counterproductive to the ruling class because it would make the reality of the situation all the more obvious to the proles. If you replace a party people hate, they will (in theory) think the problem was solved.

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You say this as if it is out of the hands of people to decide it, and fate will bring about socialism.

The right wing act in tandem to the "left", both sides fighting for different terms within capitalism and generally meeting in the middle. This is a much more effective way of maintaining capitalism than an all out fascist government, and they know it. If everyone were to put their support in the republicans simply for "accelerationism", then rather than haste a revolution you would lead to future support of the democrats and liberalism, but an overall nation wide shift in politics towards the right on social issues, with economic ones becoming just left wing enough to keep the status quo.

America will not collapse. It's the one tool we've yet to acquire to spread socialism. However, America can change if and only if we can spread class conscious, and we can only do that when the reality of the exploitation is laid bare. Trump will do that.

lol didnt you read hegel
communism is in the prophecy

No.

There is a great difference between 1) accelerationism which calls for more totalitarian and nihilistic capitalism and then hopes for some eventual and inexplicable magical collapse, and 2) a call for the immediate destabilization of the capitalist system from the inside precisely because of fear that the longer the system exists the more totalitarian and nihilistic it will become.
The two positions are actually opposed in their conclusion, the only thing they share is the premise that the system has become too powerful to destroy from the outside, so it has to be destroyed from within.

I'm voting for him just to spite the liberals. I'd rather liberal reactionaries lose than standard run of the mill conservative reactionaries. The DNC and this whole dirty gang is completely out of control and laughing about the whole thing, I'd just like to see them get an ass kicking. That's all that really motivates me in this election, either way the long term goal is with neither of these candidates nor is it with the "democratic" system.

Trump is a traditional cuckservative with a big mouth. They like him because he's vulgar and liberals hate him. If he approached anything with nuance or grace they'd write him off as another Jeb Bush or Ted Cruz.

Hillary is the accelerationist candidate though

Not when everything bad that she does gets blamed on "the left".

Exactly, Hillary is the accelerationist candidate, while Trump is the "destabilizationist" candidate.


But that's kind of the point of actual accelerationism, to go as much as possible into capitalism and its one-dimensional thinking. It's a retarded but very specific idea and I see a lot of people falsely labeling some strategies with "accelerationism".

Sabotage and destabilization =/= acceleration.