He has been in jail for three months, awaiting a hearing.
Is this because Hugo Chavez is gone?
In a starving Venezuela, buying too much food can get one arrested
Ian Cooper
Joshua Wright
Chavez died too soon
Anthony Morgan
Can someone explain to me why Venezuela doesn't count as socialism?
You had a socialist president who in an attempt to bring control over the means of production to the working class established labor unions.
I mean obviously their problems relate more to the international (oil prices dropped, hard to get trade etc.) but im talking about why is this not considered at least an attempt at socialism?
Jace Allen
except he really didn't try to bring the means of production to the working class.
I admire Chavez for his successful anti-poverty and literacy programs, but he never handed control of the means of production over to the workers. Nationalization does not make a country socialist. There are still bourgeoisie in Venezuela.
John Watson
this didn't happen
Levi King
It's not classless
The workers don't own the means of production
It isn't transitioning to a moneyless economy
Because you're a princess puffing poofter
Alexander Bennett
got u covered
Brody Collins
Venezuela collapsed because the white elite has been gradually leaving for twenty years.
Ryder Edwards
Literally propaganda. All he did was buy people shit and subsidize prices with oil money. He was a populist, populism in South America = anti-US, anti-US = socialism, so he called himself the magic S-word.
No different from Americans calling themselves lovers of freedom while paradoxically supporting social authority the moment they feel a little scared or disgusted.
Leo Morris
WEW
Luke Long
Obligatory reading: newleftreview.org
Chavez was a legitimate socialist. Yes, he failed. But he tried nonetheless.
Ryder Lopez
That son of a bitch came when the oil price shot up to $100/barrel and died before it crashed.
Ryder Murphy
What did he do then?
How does a country successfully transition then?
I'm on your side nigger I just don't know a lot about the situation
That makes sense, but what about the supposed worker's unions?
Zachary Martin
The fuck are you talking about?
People left in the 00s decade because of shit that made them know that they couldn't stay for long and "wait and see" (exchange controls, expropriations and retarded laws driving companies out, middle class' quality of life slowly worsening over time)
John Johnson
Before the '98 elections, Chávez said something like "I am not socialist, I believe in something that goes beyond the current socialism and capitalism, I am a humanist"
I think it was after the coup that he started yelling about socialism.
Camden Powell
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Brody Hall
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Asher Rogers
I know, but see here
Owen Gutierrez
Social-democracy.
Chase Hill
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Jace Reyes
Venezuela is still in the grip of powerful billionaires, the socialism is just a dog and pony show the rich allow the west to see because it benefits them in the long run.
Julian Moore
A system with no hierarchy is biologically impossible due to human evolutionary psychology. Plus not to mention democracy never works in a large society. There has never been a Democratic society that had a land area greater than 100000mi^2 and lasted for over 500 years.
Michael Watson
Democracy is not a power-up granting invulnerability. A democracy can be just as susceptible to conquest and upheaval by outside or global forces as any other state.
Carter Brooks
Nigga did a purge, son.
Got rid of the bros who ran the oil, son.
Production dropped, son.
Shitty tactics, son.
fivethirtyeight.com
Ethan Lewis
Oil prices dropped when the USA took control of international production.
Adrian Rodriguez
How do you anons respond to this post?
>>>/politics/50328
Grayson Clark
That's not the point. Democracies are the zenith of inefficiency, unless you grant voting rights only to people with IQs of 130 or above you're fucked.
Matthew Carter
Holla Forumsyp detected.
People with a high IQ, can and often do believe retarded things
Thomas Jackson
Or maybe you just don't understand them. Have you ever tired to discuss anything with someone with an IQ below 90?
Chase Taylor
Also exceptions to the rule do not make the rule. People with exceptional cognitive ability make better decisions 9/10 times.
Angel Myers
Efficiency is a spook
Logan Gray
Last time I checked the US and French revolutions didn't happen that long ago
Cameron Bailey
Stirner was a pretty spooked guy.
Christopher Allen
This. Fracking was massively overdone to weaken the russians, had the side effect of destroying venezuela.
Joseph Cooper
Venezuela's economy started dying when Maduro took over, before the oil crash.
Evan Wilson
Why does this not surprise me?
Grayson Lee
Why does this not surprise me?
Jayden Green
This shit.
The autodestruction had nothing to do with oil prices.
Logan Sullivan
Ryan Rodriguez
Full interview: youtube.com