QTDDTOT # 2
I am making this thread because there isn't enough sages for all of the FUCKING SHITTY THREADS on this damn board. Our mods are shit. We need to get more. Besides that here's my question:
How do market socialists prevent large capitalist countries from hijacking their economy like the US all of those years ago?
these threads are always filled with normies
What do you mean all those years ago?
US is hijacking my economy today.
What I mean is with the Reagan administration's embargo on Yugoslavia and the funding of right-wing radicals within the country itself.
Would you rather have normies making a fucking thread every time they want to hear "Is x leftist?"
will incest be allowed under socialism?
Maybe in communism. Humanity is too spooked, even under socialism to allow that shit in such a short time frame.
is nico a leftist?
No.
will shinka wink at me under communism?
how do you know so sure?
is kirino falling in love with her brother instead of ayase a representation of the exploitation of homosexuals and the oppressive capitalist society that forces people to be heterosexual?
Start with market socialism in the US.
is heightism bourgeois?
what kind of leftist is she, Holla Forums?
shinka is begging for you to not revolt, wat do, Holla Forums?
will the IRA kill karen?
There is no guarantee for that tho. Capitalism 9/10 times can outproduce a leftist country. Simply "start market socialism in the U.S" is not going to be enough to prevent other capitalist countries to do the same thing.
is sexual pleasure bourgeois?
All me.
will there still be hierarchical yuri domination porn under classless socialism?
Alright, what other country has the will and the ability to unilaterally destroy a socialist country besides the US?
What is Britain? Germany? My question encompasses market socialist states in general. I hear many points from ancoms regarding market socialism being used as a transition state, but I don't really know how it'll be able to resist capitalist subversion economically.
lmao their military is virtually useless these days and they've lost way too much international and economic clout after brexit
maybe, but the socialist country would have to be in continental europe.
And regardless, market socialism has a much better chance at surviving capitalist assault than any anarchist program
So you're saying that ultimate victory for market socialism will only succeed in the context of a global revolution?
Well sure, isn't that the ultimate victory for all socialism? But a market socialist state could exist on its own.
And I'm saying what is to prevent other capitalist states from economically subverting a market socialist one? You're saying a market socialist state could exist on its own and I don't know if that's true.
well obviously my strategy, being an american is to start with the united states. I don't really see how that could be undermined except by another super power.
Simply "starting in the U.S", is not enough to weather all the bullshit capitalists will be throwing at you. I'm just going to take the "context of global revolution" as your answer.
You do realize the sheer military and economic the us has built up? The only country that would have the power to undo a market socialist state in the US might be china and I don't really think they'd find it worth it.
Under communism, everyone will be cute imouto, actually. commons.wikimedia.org
She's already winking at you, user.
Please trust me, she is reactionary.
Yes.
No, but the nekomimi is a symbol of oppression.
Isn't she bourgeoisie? Or do all English characters just seem rich as fuck? In any case, socdem.
Nisemori doesn't mean what she says.
No, Karen is a sleeper agent. She will die when she's called to give her life, though.
It's petite bourgeois. Under communism, sexual pleasure will be replaced by the full pleasure of being, and our faces will be permanent ahegaos.
Almost exclusively.
Bamp.
all anime is trash and weebs should be gulaged
don't talk shit about mai waifu faggot
autism
Y-you too!
Love Live a shit, but Nico is the worst. Her whole character is pretense. I can't tell if people who like her are ironic or really that shallow, but it's shit taste either way. unless you like hierarchical yuri domination
No comment.
this thread is fucking gay
Most anime is indeed kidna shit.
Megumin tho…
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your mom is fucking gay
rude
wtf happened to Anarcho-Syndicalism IRL? Did Spain happen and every one just went "nah fam, cba with that shit"?
I am guessing that Anarcho-syndies got played down along with the rest of leftist movements by Cold War propaganda. I'm sure some anarchist has a better answer for you tho.
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Bumperino.
nice propaganda comrade
What counts as capital?
If i got it well, it's the accumulated result of human labor in the form of private property. So it can be material (commodities, MoP, buildings), or more "symbolic" (money and portfolios, shares companies). At some point humans themselves are becoming capital thanks to commodity fetishism.
Accumulation of material and "symbolic" capital then?
In what way does a human being becomes capital? How is he/she capital?
Why did they flip flop so hard later on in their lives, and towards the end of their school?
bump.
Is snowballing communism? Really makes you think.
t. low-energy shitposting polyp leftist degenerate cuckporn afficianado
why is nationhood, and nationalism a spook? Why are they pointless to fight over?
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that sounds extremely painful
I just realized how pathetically laughable my knowledge on Maoist china and the USSR is, and how they collapsed, where do I go to read about them?
"nations" are made up concepts and spending your life in the service of a "nation" is spending your life in the service of nothing
My advice is to start with wikipedia. Open a tab for every name, term, and concept you've never heard of before. Read until you think you've got a handle on it.
It won't give you the whole, or even necessarily the true story, but there's a lot of good information there about related topics and it can introduce you to things you've never heard of before.
It's not the best, but it'll get you started.
Yes, but why is it a big nothing?
That's the fucking purpose.
Can you see borders from space?
because if you were born on the other side of an arbitrary line you'd be serving another nation.
people who whip up the nationhood sentiment in people just do it to get people to do their dirty work
What is red-baiting, exactly?
I've never heard of it before, but after 20 seconds on Google, it seems to be that American thing where, if you don't like someone, you just cash them a socialist/dirty commie until no one listens to them
Because it's completely made up. "The nation" only exists in your head and its definition is completely arbitrary. Just take a look at this for example: en.wikipedia.org
We know that England has been settled by successive waves of immigrants and invaders, none of which ever achieved a uniform spread over the country. Part of this differentiation is reflected in the dialectical English spoken throughout the country that sometimes varies wildly in pronunciation and vocabulary.
So, who exactly is "English?" What ratio of "Angle" or "Saxon" makes one English? Do people with Scandinavian heritage not count? Which dialect of English is the "right" one? Or is it about how long one's family has been living in England? Does leaving the country for any amount of time disqualify you from being "truly English?"
Nations don't exist. They're made up, and usually by the rich to benefit the rich.
Why is no one on this board an ML?
Don't worry man, the free market will fix it!
I like Ocaml. SML is okay too.
Why are you people obsessed with bunkers?
There are some ML here, but they're not as talkative as one would expect. Try checking /marx/, it's a ML central.
They're good at defending you from imperialists and revisionists
How do you explain so much death in every fake communist country that came to be?
Is "spook" the same as "social construct"?
If not, what is the difference?
not necessarily.
A spook isn't just something that isn't real and socially constructed, a spook is a fixed idea that you place above yourself and your own self interest; it isn't tangibly real, but believing in it restricts your ego.
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Is there a difference between goods and commodities?
What is the difference?
If bourgeois ideology has a hegemonic hold on the masses why do leftcoms believe a spontaneous workers movement will be socialist? It seems that if the workers are indoctrinated by the ruling ideology that their self interested movement will be at best liberal and at worst reactionary/fascist.
An EU army would just be a Franco-German one at the end of the day.
leftcoms are autists, the revolution will occur with the lumpens.
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Hello there, Jason.
They were all marxist-leninist countries if you want to be exact.
I still don't get this one.
Why (some) people say that communism is against human nature?
Because they don't know that human nature is a spook and/or they think communism is about compulsory selflessness, among other things.
Why does Holla Forums think that giving workers control over the production process is even a good idea? What makes you think that an industrial engineer, or a systems engineer, and people from finance, and accounting who spent years studying this shit don't have qualifications over your peon workers?
Do better.
"goods" don't really factor into our lexicon. Most folks here go by Marxist terms far as I can tell.
So we have commodities which are objects intended to fulfill a certain human need (they have use, a use-value) but are not actually used by the producer in question. Rather they are created to be exchanged (in this way, they have exchange-value).
In my mind, what you call a "good" we might here call a "use-value".
I think workers should take this control themselves. Who else could give it to them? And they 'should' take it over because they want to. If they don't want to, let them live as they do now.
I'm sort of a left-com. I can see an opposition between capital and basically the whole rest of society, with the kernel of the struggle as between workers and owners, but that would perhaps not be the obvious 'primary aspect of the contradiction' so to speak. Please tell me more about the lumpen revolution. They seem to me to be too fixed on drugs or hampered by mental disease to struggle. Some can, and they have certain huge advantages over the proles as a revolutionary force (freer from ideology, having some established networks, resourcefulness and guile to name a few). Must capital be outright smashed to pieces and we build from there, or is it critical to build up germs of the new society within the decaying husk of the old?
Capitalist encirclement, insufficient development of productive forces (this includes prior devastation by war and or colonialism).
Human beings are not capital. This is just corporate mumbo-jumbo about 'human capital'. I don't know what user means. Sounds like he means slavery…when you can buy and sell humans instead of buying labor-power.