Pope Francis: ‘Muslim Terrorism Does Not Exist’

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the Argentinan man is not a pastor, but a destroyer
there will be nobody called pope after him

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League Wars: Part Two when? Put an end to papists who will defend this.

Daily reminder:
The catholic church is a church of bablyon.

The (((authors of the Bible))) copied most things from Babylonia and wrote it down during the Babylonian exile.

So, it's kinda funny really when goyim go on and on about >muh church of Babylon and thereby basically attacking an ancient enemy of le chosen people.

1. The time is fast approaching in which there will be great trials and afflictions; perplexities and dissensions, both spiritual and temporal, will abound; the charity of many will grow cold, and the malice of the wicked will increase.

2. The devils will have unusual power, the immaculate purity of our Order, and of others, will be so much obscured that there will be very few Christians who will obey the true Sovereign Pontiff and the Roman Church with loyal hearts and perfect charity. At the time of this tribulation a man, not canonically elected, will be raised to the Pontificate, who, by his cunning, will endeavor to draw many into error and death.

3. Then scandals will be multiplied, our Order will be divided, and many others will be entirely destroyed, because they will consent to error instead of opposing it.

4. There will be such diversity of opinions and schisms among the people, the religious and the clergy, that, except those days were shortened, according to the words of the Gospel, even the elect would be led into error, were they not specially guided, amid such great confusion, by the immense mercy of God.

5. Then our Rule and manner of life will be violently opposed by some, and terrible trials will come upon us. Those who are found faithful will receive the crown of life; but woe to those who, trusting solely in their Order, shall fall into tepidity, for they will not be able to support the temptations permitted for the proving of the elect.

6. Those who preserve in their fervor and adhere to virtue with love and zeal for the truth, will suffer injuries and, persecutions as rebels and schismatics; for their persecutors, urged on by the evil spirits, will say they are rendering a great service to God by destroying such pestilent men from the face of the earth. but the Lord will be the refuge of the afflicted, and will save all who trust in Him. And in order to be like their Head, [Christ] these, the elect, will act with confidence, and by their death will purchase for themselves eternal life; choosing to obey God rather than man, they will fear nothing, and they will prefer to perish rather than consent to falsehood and perfidy.

7. Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it under foot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days JESUS CHRIST WILL SEND THEM NOT A TRUE PASTOR, BUT A DESTROYER."

-The Prophecy of Saint Francis of Assisi

pay specific attention to line 6 and to the last line of line seven; if people rise up against Catholicism, don't you guys think that Catholics may be persecuted as the persecutors may think themselves to be rendering God a great service?

Seriously, this fucking guy… I can't stand him. His message for Catholics is basically to bend over and take it up the ass from Islam and the Jews. Fuck that shit. I won't do it.

Are we going to have to go down this road again?

Why aren't you making fuss about the 'Jewish terrorism does not exist' line, only about (the largely false-flagged) muslim one?

How fucking DARE you equate the anti-pope's kikery to the Christ he betrayed.

FUCK YOU!

The kikes HATE JESUS!!!

Francis LOVES KIKES, and HIDES HIS CROSS AMONG THEM!!!

(((the Christ)))

Could have been a good thread but OP derialed it with his autism from the start.

Enjoy your reddit atheists and Skyrim Larpers and Christians too autistic not Holla Forums bait to continue this slide thread.

how? it's pretty obvious by now the pope is an ant-white cuckold hoping to get more liberals and shitskins going to church. i honestly don't know what else needs to be said about that faggot at this point.

So I guess the Army of God doesn't exist and bomb abortion clinics.


So I guess the Old Testament didn't happen.


Do I even need to comment?

Monotheism will always lead to egalitarianism

nigger level logic you fuck.

Christian terror attacks with significant casualties in recent memory:

zero or one give or take HEIL BISONETTE

muslim terror attacks in recent memory: too many to count.

gas yourself cunt

Well, you're just speaking from ignorance, as the Army of God is real, as is the Lord's Resistance Army in Central Africa.


And yet, Muslims killed by Jews and Christians controlled by Jews, that is, the United States, is probably 50x higher than Christians & Jews killed by Muslims.

no one considers them christians and still if you consider those kinds of attacks then you include the ~10 million muslim on muslim deaths in the ME. However horrible LRA etc is, still peanuts in context, whether considering africa or rest of world.


Wrong, we've killed max about 100k in past decade, muslim on muslim deaths is closer to 5 million.

Nice try, Chaim.

The idea that people cannot be inspired by religion to commit an act of terrorism is retarded. It's no different than any other ideology.

Considers who Christians? I posted an image of Pastor Hagee, a Christian tool for Israeli interests. Are the 3 million members of Christians United For Israel not real Christians?


Now you're being retarded in attempting to pick and choose. The United States along with Israel is responsible for millions of Muslim deaths by everything from drone strikes to destabilization of the reason to better serve Israeli interests of keeping all of its neighbors weak and divided. Basically, the Oded Yinon plan.

Catholicism != Christianity.


Catholicism = Late Stage (degenerate) roman paganism + kike poison + "jesus" branding / 3

I was clearly referring to LRA and similar groups, are you fucking stupid?

Regarding Christians For Israel, etc. Unless you have a better solution than glass bowl wtf do you do with mid east?

This man makes it ever harder not to believe the protestants had it right but then I look at the protestant churches who are already far ahead in terms of degeneracy.


What? Are you thinking of the Talmud?

The (((Old Testament))) is part of the (((Bible)))

oh hey look, the antichrist shows himself.

No, you're just a shitty writer doing the usual No True Scotsman fallacy. Army of God and Lord's Resistance Army are both Christian.

Babylonian exile was around 600 BEFORE Christ…

It's funny with Christians here. Every major Christian denomination for 1800 years accepts the relevance of the Old Testament for their religion, but they will simply ignore that.

See this guy He seems to think Marcionism won.

No you fucking idiot. Give or take zero of the billion or so self identified christians across the world would consider LRA or similar groups one of their own, vs 30-70% of worldwide muslims who consider jihad/sharia/etc as their own.

breathe gas kike

Christianity was subverted very early and very effectively.

If you want to understand Christianity, start with a red letter bible, where Jesus words are highlighted in red. Everything else is second priority or less to that.

Protestantism was a failed correction toward original apostolic christianity from kike/roman/imperial catholicism in the mid ages. It barely, if ever, succeeded

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This.


Islamic terrorism can be attributed to Islam because those shitskins without Islam, while still shit, don't commit violence on the same level as their Islamic brethren do. "Christian terrorism" cannot really be said to exist because the "Christian terrorists" are shitskins who are just as terroristic as their non-Christian brethren, making attributing their violence to their questionable Christianity illogical.


The Old Testament wasn't written during any particular exile. What are you talking about? Do you even know your history?

History of Mediterranean monotheism (excepting Zoroastrianism) in a nutshell.


Pretty sure that wasn't the Babylonian exile. In fact the only pre-Christian exile of the Hebrews I'm aware of is the supposed (and probably fake) exile in Egypt, followed by the exodus into the Near East and several conquerings by the Assyrians, Egyptians, Persians, Greeks, Romans, and others.


It was just a bunch of people following what they thought the Bible really said, and thinking that Church tradition wasn't important and also that the Romans were fucking fags. It's no coincidence that the most protestant areas were the ones never conquered by Rome originally, whereas all the Roman conquered regions were perfectly happy keeping the Latin tradition.

And why would Christians be a fair judge of a pretty terrible group that no religion would want to be associated with?

aljazeera.com/news/africa/2011/10/2011101418364196576.html


Matthew 5:17

That is from Jesus. Doesn't sound like he's in opposition to the teachings of the Old Testament.

The vast majority of contemporary and/or recent ( < 400 yr old) "protestant" denominations are variations of Catholicism.

Catholic > Luther > Baptist/Methodist/etc

Long before that there were other sects. Most were wiped out by Catholics or others.

Originally Christianity started out almost like /pol ie people fighting against contemporary kikes/globalists for and with freedom, learning etc.

Not sure why youre still hung up on LRA but if you can't see that:

~1 - 0% of christians sympathize with LRA
~30-70% of muslims sympathize with ISIS

then youre a fucking moron.


the purpose of the law of moses (and before that the law of noah) was to evolve humanity from hominid almost animal savages into civilized ubermensch.

jesus doctrine was inherently more advanced, and more complete than the simplistic eye-for-an-eye type law of moses and noah. thus he "accomplished it" by creating something that encapsulated the intent and implemented it more effectively

Did the Pontifex Maximus really say that? What planet is He living on?

Seriously, I don't believe the leader of all Catholics can be that publicly delusional. I need proof.

They are, but they're significantly different. The only one appreciably similar to Catholicism in terms of Christianity is Anglicanism, and probably only High Anglicanism at that.

Personally I view it as something filling and unfilled market. When Christianity came to prominence about a century or two after its creation, it existed in quite a degenerate age, which gave it much appeal for people looking for a return to structure and virtue that they couldn't find elsewhere. We live in a similar age, so I honestly wouldn't be surprised if some other new religion that appeals to the traditional ethics and sensibilities of Europeans emerged if Christianity (or at least part of it) doesn't get its shit together. Don't know how likely that is.

What part of this is unbelievable, knowing the man? He is a huge part (I don't necessarily want to say culmination) of the subversion of Catholicism and yet another front from which to destroy whites.


I'm going to point out that the "purpose" of the teachings of the Old Testament is debatable, and that coming to "accomplish their purpose" would not therefore necessarily imply a strict adherence to the letters of the laws themselves.

There has been times when some protestant sects have been significantly different and got close to the original ideal but ultimately they were all built on a faulty foundation.

Christianity = utopia ("kingdom of heaven") at all costs + belief in human divinity if "enlightened" + manifestation (ask whatsoever thou wilt and it shall be done)

The ideal of Christianity is debatable. I'm not really going to argue Protestantism from a theological standpoint, so I'll just stick with what I said before. From a historical standpoint, Protestantism was the rejection of the Latin Church (one might say the Latin version of Christianity) for one that appealed more to the Northern Europeans who were not to any significant degree Latinized, unlike the Franks, Gauls, Lombards, etc.. It's the same reason that the Eastern Church is split from Catholicism, because it too lives in areas remote from Romanism and appeals more to the Easterners.

From one perspective, yes. From another perspective it was essentially the rejection of Holy Roman Empire globalism/corruption in a manner initiated by Martin Luther. It never really rewound to the initial Christian ideals of Jesus and the apostles which was spiritual, esoteric, communal, rational, etc.

I'm not really in any position to speak with authority on the history of the Holy Roman Empire, how globalist or corrupt it was, or its relation to Christianity and, most especially, Protestantism. Sorry. If you could provide some reading on the HRE and its ties to the rest I'd be grateful though.

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As an Argie, we had some of the worst shit, but at least it was limited to our caountry and its neighboors, but thos cunt is international, this dirty peronist needs to die

Daily reminder Kikes inflict terror from the moment most people are born by giving them the mark of the beast

I don't know any good summaries OTOH but basically:

Jesus is born into semi aristocratic jewish family after surviving King Herod's astrological/superstition triggered massacre.

He spends early childhood in Alexandria – equivalent of say NYC at the time. Probably leaves family young and encounters buddhists, and other "magi" in his travels, and learns many "tricks" – some natural, others apparently supernatural (power of belief, etc.)

Around 30 returns to Judea, starts the idea of Christianity (ie communal rationalism combined with spirituality). Is killed, as expected, by threatened religious jews and imperial Romans. Probably survived crucifixion using natural and other "tricks" and disappeared to asia.

Early church makes many converts at first, with many converts being martyred, before being overran by scammers etc.

Various schools arise:

mystery school – high level original ideal rationalist/spiritualist/psychonaut/etc eg st John, Thomas, Judas Iscariot
judaism variant – judaism but sins are forgiven eg st Pau
"everyday" variant – do whatever but focus on altruism, etc. eg st Peter
scammer variant – every scammer in for easy buck.

Eventually the various branches became too popular and Constantine integrated best scammer school with dirty false pagan priests and gave birth to catholicism.

The other variants were massacred ruthlessly for over 1000 years and from 300 AD through the 1800s, the catholic church was just the remnants of roman empire

What planet are you from? He says shit like that all the time. "Be good sheep and just let it happen"

Wrong.

He said to them, “But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don’t have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one.”

"If your enemy is hungry, feed him; if he is thirsty, give him something to drink. In doing this, you will heap burning coals on his head."

"be wise as serpents and innocent as doves"

"Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword."

etc. Wrong. Similar to Ghandi choosing hunger strike and pacifism as it was the most effective weapon at the time, Jesus advised such to the occupied hebrew tribes at the time due to pragmatic strategy. His ultimate goal was a utopian society "the Kingdom of Heaven." The method… at all costs.

Read. My text is about the pope and yours about Jesus

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christcuck jewing his own people.

I was talking about the Holy Roman Empire, but okay.


He's from South America. He's probably not white, and seethes with contempt for those with unadulterated white genetics the way only white mongrels can.

Also, this pacifism only works out of outstanding courage, not with the weak fat cowards of today

tell me why the roman catholic church elected a FUCKING SPIC after a thousand years of mostly Italian popes?

The 'Catholic' Church has been subverted by kikes and marxists since John XXIII and Vatican II. Pius XII was the likely the last legitimate Pope.

The Protestant heresy is a theological and philosophical joke with no leg to stand on. Atheists are intellectually lazy. Pagans LARP reverence of dead gods. The kikes loathe Christianity with an unmatched fervor and always have.

Jews and communists.

Yes… pacifism as strategic and courageous not because petrified of thinking or doing anything.


The Catholic Church has operated as a globalist, borderless, untouchable community professional subversion for thoussands, if not tens of millions, of years.


Sorry, I sent ur wrong link.


There was probably never a legit pope. Likely a scammer/magician got in good position in Rome by BSing that peter was there a few years ago and nominated him

Tens of thousands not millions lol

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Except for that 1500 year period in Europe where it didn't.

You mean bronze age and iron age warfare? Because you need to read a fucking history book, there was no playing nice by anybody those days and they were all wise not to play nice.

See faggot by your estimation we are "worse" than the mudslimes. We don't want converts we want them exterminated, erased and forgotten. We will destroy their records and reduce them to an anthropologic curiosity. They will all die whether from starvation when we cut off the food supply or by bullet, bomb, and blade. It doesn't matter, what matters is that they not only cease to be they cease to have ever been.

A traitor if there ever was one, but Christians are so fucking pathetically weak at this point they'll do nothing about it.

No more than any other white, unfortunately.

Nothing about that commentary makes any sense.

THE HEAD OF THE CUCKTHOLIC CHURCH STRIKES AGAIN

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Two organization with a few hundred members and localized activity are statistically insignificant.You are literally worse than the libshits that spout "WHITES ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE MAJORITY OF CRIME".

Are you an autist? You said:
And I replied:

Cacophany of Halfchan Christian Cuckolds, aka Good Goyim Face the Question that Destroys Cucks for Christ

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Grammatically it made no sense, as what I actually said was:
to which you replied
I would advise viewers to note of the lack of capitalization in
but even more than that, in the context you suggest that makes no sense I'm afraid, Schlomo, as plenty of Whites are not weaklings who excuse such blatant treason.

It is very possible I am autistic - but I'm also hugely successful… Speaks for itself.

Mmmmmmm.

You're an idiot. Historically, Christian armies have won more battles, and conquered more territory, than any other religion combined in recorded history.

That said, sadly, currently, christians seem to have gone fully faggot

White is not a proper noun. It is not capitalized. And it needs to be pointed out that it does still make grammatical sense, as my statement is implicitly "[they will do] no more than any other white" given that it is following "they'll do nothing about it."

kek. If you actually read what I wrote I never said whites will do nothing about it, only that [white] Christians will do just as much as any other white, which is true. I think you really are autistic.

You're on an imageboard. No one gives a shit who you are or how successful you claim to be. I'm Shakespeare but you don't see me bragging.

Took you long enough to show up. Not even the first post. Usually you guys pounce every time the word "Christian" is mentioned. What happened?

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That's an unproven statement.

And now they're absolute cuckolds - your past victories, born of European's evolutionarily-derived traits (forged over thousands of years of paganism, mind you), are meaningless now, if they ever had any meaning considering the core foundations of the faith which were of merit were merely transposed from the pagan civilizations that came before. But you bled all that blood away, and now, you've only the soft blood of the christcuck, ready and willing to bend over for the mudfolk so long as the muds do the sign of the cross before sodomizing their puckered christcuck hole.
Everything about christendom that was strong came from that which existed before it, and which it could not quickly and effectively eliminate, only assimilate; but now, after several centuries, christendom has run its course - and its espouesrs are nothing but weak sallow cuckolds.

Exactly.

Did you even read the link to which you were replying?
I doubt it, so let me fill you in: There is a question, a question which destroys christendom's mask of merit and worth.
The question is simple:
Would you prefer a Europe of European pagans/atheists or a Europe of christian Africans/Arabs?
Its a very simple question, indeed. So how/why does it work? Simplicity. The question forces christians, if they are honest (which is highly variable), to choose between two clades of which they are a part, one by choice, one by requisite, the clade of church, of faith, and the clade of race, of blood.

And the christians? Well, we can see from that thread how they think, how they feel - their loyalty, for the most part, lies in the church, in their faith, in what they choose to be.
This is not a place for such beliefs, such willing treachery - and they know it. So they twist and turn, they writhe like a struck serpent, trying desperately to escape the question, to avoid it, to deflect or slither away into some other vein of conversation.

But if you don't let them, if you keep pushing them, they almost-always expose themselves for what they are - followers of the Cult of the Crucified Rabbi, which, though it once may have been mighty (born of the strength of European blood, during a time when gold was a greater motive to most 'Christian' kings than was faith), is now nothing but a systematic methodology for generating motive for racial-cuckoldry within European populations.

Whatever strength you'd wrought from the Old Blood, you've long since bled away, and now your church-goers wrestle to prostrate themselves before their enemies, to hand over what they've earned through toil, to descend into degeneration - with approval from on high, as this thread shows - for the sake of that which they choose to be, at the expense of that which they intrinsically are.

Speaks for itself.

Yes, it is, in this context, you Jew.

Jew.

Which makes no sense, as already addressed, Jew.

Slither slither little worm.

That is entirely possible, and has not hindered my success.

Because you're a nobody and you know it.

I heard a similar, yet different theory:

Mary, the mother of Jesus, was in reality one of the declining descendants of the house of Levi (the priest tribe/caste that were finally wiped out by the Romans during the Destruction of the Temple decades later). Joseph, who was the legit descendant of the house of David, got cucked by the (((angel))) (more likely a member of the Essence sect, whom Jesus later on spent his growing up years with) during the "annunciation". The whole prophecy was clearly a cover, as the more simpler reason for Joseph to keep silent on his child bride's infidelity was because divorcing her would be admission of his own impotence.
The part about them fleeing to Alexandria where Jesus had his preschool education by exposure to other beliefs and philosophies still fits here. The whole exaggerated uproar during the "finding of Jesus in the Temple" event (this was after Herod died, so the bounty for their heads was called off and it was safe to return) was simply due to the fact that the 12 year old Jesus had learned way more things during his time abroad that what the usual Jewish youth at that time was taught (which depends on rank and station, usually limited to a trade and the most basic interpretations of the local laws to follow). After which he was taken in by the Essences (his "18 absent years" was spent with that sect), until he had to take over the family business when his "father" Joseph died, and thus the beginning of his ministry as it was written.


This is actually true, and it's even in the bible. The deceiver was hiding in plain sight.

(((His name))) was Saul, who spent his career persecuting the Christians, until he had the brilliant inspiration of coopting the growing new religion instead, renamed himself Paul, and claimed to be Peter's successor.

It was Paul's flavor of Christianity that the Emperor Constantine adopted because unlike the other Christian leaders Paul can speak Greek and Roman, thus his "teachings" were spread in the languages that the average citizen of the Roman Empire can understand, which made integration easier.

WAT

[citation needed]. Pre-Latinized Europe didn't keep written records, meaning that we can only be sure of the religions of the rest of Europe insofar as the Romans (and Greeks) encountered them. That only covers at most one thousand years (a little more in some of the more remote areas, such as Iceland). Pre-Roman religious belief in most of Europe is entirely unknown. For all we know, Celtic, Germanic, and Slavic paganism could be quite new, as new as Zoroastrianism (i.e. emerging about ~1000-600 BC). Moreover, it would be silly to attribute European racial qualities to a religion, considering there was not even any religion even reasonably uniform throughout Europe during major periods of European development (prehistorically).

Ah, you're one of those, substituting provocative vitriol for actual substance. At any rate, if you theory made sense, Schlomo, (which it doesn't) we should all just give up. Fuck off. We're not giving up.

Let me ask you the reverse question, genius. Would you prefer a white, Christian Europe or a nonwhite, pagan Europe. Don't deflect now, because I know you will.


Confirmed for being illiterate. Do you even know what a proper noun is? 'Europe' is a proper noun. '[A] white' as in "member of the European racial group" is not a proper noun. Or do you say 'Bird' instead of 'bird'?

Keep being retarded though, since you don't have any arguments aside from walls of text that boil down to nothing more than insults, pejoratives, and accusations of Judaism that you don't even bother to back up.

Who do you honestly think is buying this? If you want people to suck your dick because of how great and successful you are go tripfag on
>>>/halfchan/

Almost all the atheists and pagans of europe are weakling faggots, that said any urbanite white of nearly any self described affiliation is a weakling faggot. Niggers aren't even human so you are essentially comparing men to dogs, there is no comparison.

What I like are the heartless, cruel, brutal whites who live in my area of rural America. They all hate kikes, especially the younger guys. They all hate niggers and shitskins. They openly ask we don't just nuke the saracens into oblivion and ask the other nuclear powers to stand aside while we do it. And they are all Christians. Their Christianity is filled with spite and is merciless. That is the religion I was raised in and which I esteem. Those whites are the only population(including mudslimes and spics) who are born in industrialized nations yet maintain above replacement birthrates, they have 2.7 kids while even the hardline muds born in europe can't make 2 kids on average after the first generation. They are nearly immune to degeneracy, and habitually ignore the jewish media because it hasn't said anything they liked for decades.

You are imposing a binary solution set which doesn't reflect reality.

The problem with this particular sort of pagan racialism you exemplify is that you don't recognize the problems the white race had.

this filth has always hidden within the white race, and also the NE Asians if you've seen their birthrates. These people lived off the cultural largesse of our traditional societies, Christianity for example forced these faggots to marry, be productive, breed and keep their retarded thoughts to themselves lest they be shunned for their disgusting sins. And back then the environment gave them no choice but to behavior in an adaptive manner or die. When they "freed" themselves from that social control the social standards of each generation declined since they were no longer being enforced by an outside social structure or the environment. And now it has come to this. Libtards and shitskins in America have divorce rates of 70% while white "conservatives"(defined in surveys are registered republicans) have divorce rates of 4-8% which is still way too high. Libtards have birthrates below 1 while conservatives have 3 or so kids. Libtards live in their dirty cities with their dogs and cats while conservatives live largely as their ancestors did in rural areas and very small cities. White males produce 74% of the GDP and account for 92% of those employed in manufacturing or resource extraction. White males do all the dangerous and hard work. This is what happens when fear of punishment and strife are not utilized as proper agents of social control. This is the inevitable result of allowing weak willed men, kikes, and cunts to decide the destiny of mankind.

We've seen bullshit like the libtards before, the Cathars were excepting of homosexuality, vice of all sorts, and even murder. They encouraged people not to breed, and thought that because the world was filthy and fallen nobody should have children and that no authority should control them because it was temporal, except for the Cathar Elect of course. Sound familiar? How many times has a libtard bitched to you about overpopulation and how you are selfish for bringing children into a world were they suffer, you are selfish for not adopting a little nignog because muh overpopulation, you are selfish for doing anything biologically adaptive and placing your family before shitskins you've never met. And when you point out that we could just stop feeding the shitskins and billions would die off in the first ten years they have no material rebuttal they and only sputter and stammer "W-W-WACIST!"

This is the same sickness we as a race have always had. The Catholic Church organized the extermination of all adult Cathars under the request of France and the German states because these faggots were trying to destroy society. But they didn't purge enough it seems, the Cathars were never that big and the Inquisition was created to prevent another heresy of that sort. And it did, and it only cost 4,500 lives at most over an 800 year period to do it. The Inquisition essentially invented modern investigative law because they weren't a secular court looking for scapegoats to throw to the outraged mob. They were actually trying to stop heresy.

But it was a mistake and yes any NatSoc plan of forcing these fags to act like humans would also be a mistake. We should just let all those who don't have a predisposition to survive die off, ZA VINAL ZOLUTION IV YOU VILL!

Don't compare niggers to dogs, that's an insult to our canine companions.

Don't compare them to gorillas either. Gorillas are calm, sensitive, and noble creatures.

This is true.

OP derailed the thread from the start and now we get this

Terrorism doesn't exist.

You doesn't exist.

It's incredible. Niggers aren't just subhuman, they're subanimal. What wretched creatures.

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Literal cockroaches are actually more social and empathetic creatures. Just read about how cockroaches will actually die if separated from their own for too long.

I want the halfchan Christcucks to go back

You do realize people like you are tools for D&C right?

Only if you think the thread binding Europeans together is a Semitic stick cult, which I don't

Come now leftypol, even those fringe right wing Christian websites talk about the subversion of Christianity and call out the Pope for being a kike puppet

No genetic heritage is what binds us together, not Christianity nor Paganism nor Atheism.

reminder that Benedict is the real pope and you cant just resign from a holy position.
The fucking kikes blackmailed him with his hitlerjugend past.

The thread binding europeans/west together is an array of several factors, including genes, roman empire, christian history, etc. simply speaking, a 2000 year old run of general excellence and cultural ownage

You're getting boring atheists, try a new tack once in a while. The old religions are dead and they're not coming back. If you think atheism or some half-hearted resurrection of paganism is going to work against the kikes, shitlam and others take a look at the most irreligious institutions and countries in Western Europe to see how well that's going to fare.

Discard two thousand years of intellectual, cultural and spiritual heritage at your peril.

Christcucks strike again.

that's a stupid question. paganism is folk religion. european paganism can't exist without european peoples. obviously i prefer white christians, because there's always a chance they'll free themselves from the foreign religion that was forced on their ancestors, and rediscover the true roots of their identity. many christians, on the other hand, would put religion before race, so the question posed to you is a valid one.


like you just did, by reversing the question instead of actually answering it?

How long is the pagan history binding Europeans together? Easily a order of magnitude greater. I'm fine celebrating Christian heritage even if I ultimately think it was a poison pill for my people. I've probably been to more churches and duomos than anyone here for example. That just means that churches fleeced Europeans long enough to build a litany of churches by the sweat of the European brow. All that architecture and the skill it took to make it is more a testament to the European artisan than it is any religion it purportedly represents.

Don't be so hasty to ascribe your race's achievements to some shallow Semitic mind virus that has unfortunately plagued us these last two millennia.

Paganism in Europe was never unifying. There were Germanic gods, Celtic gods, Roman gods, Iberian gods, Greek gods, and a ton of extra groups like with the Dacians and the Baltics. If you're going to make this retarded fucking argument, Christianity has actually been the first time all of Europe worshiped the same god.

It's almost as if paganism had a racial and ethnic component which made it unique for each popul. Really activates those almonds when you pretend that there has to be a paneuropean religion because….?

Truly comical. Keep at it.

So you're saying that white people are a ton of different races then. It's almost as though you want white people to be divided.

so europe had many different tribalistic peoples with a strong sense of identity, and a great diversity of interesting cultures? thank god christianity came along and destroyed all that.

Can you not tell an Iberian from a Bavarian? A Hungarian from a Swede? Even Northern Italians vary wildly from the Sicilian cousins. This application of paneuropeanism is the kind of bullshit that mystery meat Americans push on Europeans who have a heritage and wish to keep it thus. Christianity was the beginning of a wave of egalitarian bullshit that we are still dealing with today. The only church that even attempts to address this problem today is Orthodoxy but even then the Patriarchs only keep a racial component in the church because Putin wants it thus, making the font of racial identity racially aware whites not the church proper.

It's just as stupid a question as "Would you prefer pagan Europeans or Christian nonwhites?" It's a false dichotomy.

It very much can.

So you care more about your religion than Europeans. Why act so high and mighty over Christians who do the same then?

Next you'll be talking about foreign science or foreign facts. Must you guys always bring up the same talking points like they're actually valid? Your definition of "true roots," "tradition," or "ethnic identity" is so arbitrary so as to be completely meaningless. "European culture from this specific period only is valid and nothing else because I say so." Please.

And pagans… And atheists… And scientologists… And Mormons… And Muslims… Really anyone infected with leftism. Gee, I'm sensing a pattern here. Maybe the problem is Jews and leftism and not a supernatural, magical entity called "religion" that forces people to do things and actively makes decisions like subverting people.

I already said it was a false dichotomy. "Christian" and "European" are not mutually exclusive descriptions, and you can have both. This is because one is a religious description and one is a racial description, and the two are not the same. You might as well ask "Jews or Muslims?" because it's the same scenario.


If you're talking purely about Greco-Roman paganism you'd have a point, but I'd say that's merely coincidental with the Roman Empire binding everyone together at the same time as being pagan. Any other European paganism doesn't have enough written history to say anything about it; the only time-frame of its existence in Europe we can be sure of is the time between written records of it (around maybe 500 BC, IIRC) and when it disappeared (around 500 AD in most of Europe) giving it a "binding period" of one thousand years, if we're sticking to available evidence. One thousand years isn't more than 1500 years, let alone an order of magnitude longer. Care to present your evidence that Thor was being worshiped in 20,000 BC?

It's funny that you simultaneously have a point but miss it entirely. Just as the architecture is not attributable to the religion, neither is the subversion of Europeans (not that there's any meaningful evidence of that anyway, without resorting to debunked militant atheist memes). I hate to break it to you, but religions are not decision-making entities. They can't force you or convince you to do anything. You know what does that? Other people. At best religion can be a rhetorical device employed by the subversive, but this applies to all religions and it cannot be reliably said that any religion is more prone to subversion than any other. Pozzed people will be pozzed no matter the religion they claim to follow. Christcucks rationalize being cucks as being the teachings of Christ; atheists rationalize being cucks as being rational and human; pagans rationalize being cucks as being morally correct and true to the underlying principles of paganism. The key word here is "rationalization." The religion is merely the justification for the pre-existing propensity for cuckoldry; if you took a Christcuck and turned him into a pagan or an atheist he'd still be equally cucked.

Address the true problems instead of magical thinking.

The religion of JUST.

I like the books of the prophets.
Yeah they're heebs but iunno that they're the bad heebs.

They're an ancient, extinct people who may not even have existed. Don't feel bad for liking them anymore than you'd feel bad for liking the Persians, Egyptians, or Carthaginians.

Or the Romans for that matter.

The Romans might debatably still exist some places in Europe, whereas I'm quite sure the rest of the groups I named are totally extinct. You're not wrong, but I thought I'd clarify.

no shit they do

Yes, because Christ does not teach terrorism, quite the opposite
Yes, because Muhammad does not teach terrorism, quite the opposite
It does, just read old testament and other scriptures of judaism

Does conversion by the sword count and aggressive militancy as terrorism?

no, it isn't. it's a hypothetical question.


nonsense. but even if it could, my answer would be the same.


no, i don't. if i did, i would choose people of my religion.


obviously, we should look to the period just preceding the forced christianization of our people. paganism are living religions. they've evolved along with the european peoples since our beginning, as a way to pass on our culture and our values (vid related).


no, you didn't. and it isn't. you're still deflecting.

The devil has his hooks in him good. The Vatican is now fake news…

Catholicism and Christcuckery in general is an anti-Aryan Jewish religion that was created by the kike Rabbi Yeshu for the sake of making Aryans weaker. It worked.

I've visited the shrines devoted to my own people's pantheon of gods many times, and those gods were around for about the time scales you're referring to. This was not the Roman pantheon as Italy was not Rome. Italians were and continue to be a veritable archipelago of different tribes falsely flying the same banner. Because the Roman pantheon didn't take root around all of Italy until the empire grew doesn't mean paganism itself wasn't around since 20000 bc. It's an expression of the self and what a group finds spiritual which isn't a practice reserved solely for the judeans.

The pagan traditions that arose from within Europe were not those that celebrated weakness and were deeply rich with cultural beauty. There's a reason that what you think of as Christmas is really Yuletide with a few drops of Semitic tradition dashes in with the manger and all that. Imagine Christmas without the manger as many do and it's just Yuletide.

The point is that it's easy to be a weak christcuck because if you think god wants you to be some mewling pondscum who spreads his cheeks for everyone then it will obviously catch on with the plebeians who do that anyway. That christcucks are simultaneously displacing themselves for invaders is not a bug but a feature. It's just the manifestation of the perverse Jewish mind and yet I'm supposed to not treat it as some foreign body. No thanks. Europeans were fine before they had their spirituality erased when christcucks burned all their temples down. To then pretend that it's the Europeans fault that christcucks ruined their heritage is mind boggling.

Agree with your post except for that. Cucktianity was created by Saul/Paul, who also made up the majority of all Christian dogmas.

No one can really know now who Rabbi Yeshua exactly was and what exactly he wanted. Hitler suggested that he was an Aryan son of a Roman (not the son of David as Christcucks claim) and rose up against Jewish capitalism before he was killed. Others argue that he didn't even exist but was a mythical figure like Abraham, the father of Cucktiantiy ("Father Abraham - has many sons - many sons has father Abraham" etc.)

If Pantera was Jesus' dad then he wasn't gods son you dumb cuck. It just means Joseph just got cucked by a Roman which makes your entire religion about getting cucked, which to me makes a whole lot more sense given the tendencies of Christians today. Either Yeshua is the son of god and it's all a Semitic invention or he's the son of Pantera and he's not god simply a guy who was the bastard child of a kikess and a Roman. Wow better go devote my life to worshipping that dichotomy.

Christ didn't teach to go and have crusades.
Muhammad lived at the time of war so the tonne is more militant, but he did not teach any atrocities.

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Lmao so much TORPEDO shitposting lately. Go away MIDF

This guy's speakin' my language!

Christ myth hypothesis is total garbage supported by no serious historian.

I am not a Christian, I'm the OP who is opposed to Cucktianity. I'm just noting that Hitler has argued that Jesus might have been the son of an Aryan soldier, and not the son of (((David))) and (((YWHW))) as Christcucks argue.

He literally butchered a village because they called him a faggot, the ones who survived were sold into rape slavery.

U wot, m8?

I realized that after sorry. Phone posting.

It's a nonsense question. It's two different categories. I want Europeans to survive, not for any other purpose or merit. To add religion into that equation is a nonsense, Jewish trick to get people believing that killing whites is okay if they worship the wrong god; not on the basis of treason or incompatible morals (e.g. why Islam isn't okay) but because you've given yourself a bunch of shitty memes that say a man who fights for everything you do deserves death because he is a Christian.

Greek paganism didn't have a problem surviving without the Greeks amidst the Romans and other peoples. Neo-Nordic paganism exists amongst nonwhite worshipers. How is it impossible for a nonwhite to worship the appropriate gods and practice the appropriate rites, pray tell?

You phrased it in such a way as to imply that you only cared about Europeans surviving in order that they could be pagans. You don't care about European survival; you care about paganism (in a very specific manner).

This makes zero sense. We should look at the period of greatest European accomplishment, where the survival and prosperity of Europeans was at its most assured. All you've done is restate the question ("This specific period because I say so") rather than provide any meaningful reason why that period is preferable to any other, before or after. You have as much justification for choosing that period as for choosing the period beforehand of primitive, Cro Magnon religion (such as animism) or the period afterwards of atheism and leftism.

I hate to break it to you, but paganism in Europe went extinct one thousand years ago. It has no living tradition; there has been no continuous, living tradition of paganism continuing from 1000 AD to the present day. The only living religious tradition in Europe is Christianity, objectively, whether you like it or hate it. I suppose technically Islam too if you count Bosnia and the like, but I doubt you want to come preach Islam on Holla Forums.

No, they haven't. Europeans have been evolving for tens of thousands of years in Europe. Our earliest records of Germanic paganism are around 2,500 years old.

Culture isn't entirely dependent on religion, and you'd be a fool to think so. European values have been the same at least since the dawn of civilization, and any religion adopted by Europeans en masse has been shaped around those values. You only need to read ancient accounts to realize that ancient Europeans were hardly very different from their modern counterparts.

So you're telling me that somehow you have records of religion before writing was invented, and aren't just making shit up. Okay. I'm just going to point this out: any prehistoric religion (that is, before records, i.e. before writing) is entirely unknown. Whatever shrines you visited could have just as easily been used for religions entirely different from the paganism you revere so much. We just don't know because there is no evidence of anything, which isn't helped along because the spread of writing (mainly through Roman conquest) was accompanied by the spread of Christianity. Without writing, Germanic paganism itself could have changed substantially in the 1000 years or so we definitively know it existed for.

A) It doesn't mean it was either. Again, there is no evidence. We don't know what the ancient Europeans worshiped, but given how turbulent religions are it's a pretty safe bet it wasn't the paganism of Christian times. Our best guess looking at other primitive peoples is that animism was probably common, but that's about the best we can say.
B) Stop using paganism interchangeably if you're going to confuse Greco-Roman paganism for Germanic paganism and use evidence of the former for existence of the latter. It doesn't work like that. Germanic paganism could be older or younger than Greco-Roman paganism, but we really don't know.

Considering the written records of them are scarce to nonexistent you really can't make this claim. They could've been absolute shit for all you know, but if you want to make a guess based off the most recorded paganism (Greco-Roman) then it would be safe to say that culture was almost entirely independent of it. To be a Greco-Roman pagan you essentially only had to believe in the gods as actually existing and make sacrifices to them. There was no moral code, cultural code, or common set of rites or traditions. The Romans were very different from the Greeks from whom they took their religion, and based their success off Roman virtues (not pagan virtues).

Are you tired from beating that strawman?

Your evidence being…? I trust you'll prove that Christians are more susceptible to this than other Europeans (somehow) and then explain why this didn't happen one thousand years ago.

All you've done is ingest too many shitty, post-2014 memes.

So Christians (who are somehow mutually exclusive with Europeans) are both too aggressive and not enough. Right. Stop playing the Jewish victim game. "X did Y to me in the past, therefore they are evil, but I dindu nuffin, so I can't be evil!" Get rid of the child's view of history you have.

It must be exhausting beating these mental phantoms of yours.


Well that's just blatantly not true. Mohammed came to prominence during a time of extreme peace, as it was immediately after the Byzantines and Persians had exhausted themselves fighting one of the longest and bloodiest wars in history. This was partly what allowed Islam to conquer so much, especially in getting its foothold in Syria (which had been de-Romanized by the Persians and later recaptured by the Byzantines, who let in vast numbers of Arabs and didn't have the strength to resist Islam).

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One strategically and publically placed quote in 1928. Read the Table Talks and about the actual relationship between (((Cucktianity))) and historical NS. A mere picture isn't enough.

The same (((Table Talks))) where Hitler talks about exterminating a few other European peoples and Holocausting Jews that is frequently invoked as "proof" of his insanity and intent to kill anyone not blonde-haired and blue-eyed?

No. The real table talks not some made-up BS about killing everyone who isn't blue-eyed.

The "real Table Talks" don't exist. It's just Jewish propaganda to prove Hitler was a demagogue who didn't care for anything except getting power (and killing Jews), tricking anyone and everyone to do so. It isn't reliable proof of Hitler's views on anything. If you want proof of Hitler's view on things, your best bet is to study actions he took and read Mein Kampf in the original German. That and watch recorded speeches. The fact of the matter, though, is that the (((Table Talks))) aren't proof of anything.

This is not what the table talks actually say.
It's pretty much all very reasonable what he says there, and besides: there are many, many groups in history who wanted to kill Jews. It's not as if groups wanting to defend themselves against the Jew is something made up…

You make that sound like some liberal hippie shit about >muh killing and violence is bad and turn the other cheek, goy…

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Implying that anyone who worships a Jew-God who is the son of a Jew-God has any right to berate us about Jews…

Everyone who is redpilled on (((kikes))) for more than 1-2 years and STILL remains a (((christian))) has be considered as an utter retard.
EVERY single christian holiday is stolen from Pagan Aryan religion. EVERY SINGLE ONE

OP is not just a faggot but a shill too. Come back when you learn how to post.

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I don't think Jesus approved of cuckholdry.

This is false, as with much of the rest of your sputtering.

While everyone on Holla Forums has been trained lately to unconsciously auto-respond to every zionist neo-con appointment by Trump as some kind of based victory for the goy.

Perhaps the Pope here is playing 88D solitaire considering it's well known to all but the most blue-pill guzzling jewish media believers that Mossad is doing these false flags and thus he's more based than Donald Trumps jewish cabinet!

Or as ever since Vatican II the jews have infiltrated, co-opted and deactivated Christianity along with every other institute and industry in the West with another bowing and scraping servant of jewry as the head of the institution helping misdirect us to a JWO.

>>>/TRS/

no, it's a very simple question: what's more important to you, your race or religion? your still deflecting.


yeah, i see these faggots who start calling themselves pagans because they've seen the vikings on tv. a few misguided wogs aren't going to preserve our culture. culture is strongly tied to genetics. european paganism is european culture. without europeans, no european paganism.


no, i'd always pick europeans, even if they all converted to islam or whatever. but i will also always work to rid europe of these poisonous semitic religions.


it does if you understand that culture is tied to genetics.


it didn't just appear out of nowhere.


you think the modern scandinavians, for example, have the same values as the vikings did?

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Can I get an answer to these, thank you:

Come back when you learn how to read more than just pictures.

It did though. It started the trajectory. People don't become cucks overnight.

It's sort of a waste to argue with these cucks. If they want to kneel to Rabbi Yeshua their whole lives let em, the religion is dying via attrition anyway. The more we uncuck ourselves the less palatable cuckstianity becomes.

You are aware that Trump fanaticism and misdirection DisInfo are the forté and MO of TRS/alt-kike and the rest of the co-opted movements.

No, it isn't. Not unless you think Europeans have been somehow getting along without culture for the last thousand years or more.

It happened before. There's nothing stopping it, especially since most European paganisms that we know of required little in order to be a member; belief in the gods and sacrifices to them was the usual amount, which nonwhites can do easily.

Lay off the memes, son. "Semitic religions" don't exist. You need to understand that culture and religion are separate entities.

Genetics influences predispositions to various ways of living (e.g. physical labor vs. craftsmanship) and values (e.g. monogamy). Trust me when I say you do not have a genetic predisposition towards belief in Odin (or any other gods of any other religion, for that matter). European values are genetically influenced and that is why they have stayed largely the same while religion has changed wildly around them.

That doesn't mean it was around for thousands of years beforehand. Most religions have quite short "gestation" periods, around a few hundred years. Zoroastrianism emerged around 600 BC and was dominant by 200 BC. Christianity emerged around 100 AD and was dominant by 400 AD. Islam emerged around 600 AD and was dominant by 700 AD. Buddhism emerged around 300 BC and was dominant three hundred years later. It's possible, even probable, that Germanic paganism went through a similarly short gestation period sometime a few hundred years before its dominance in 400-1000 AD.

They did before Jews had a major influence in the 20th century. They had perhaps less love for violence, but that is extremely recent (moreso than Christianity) considering the fought several bloody wars throughout the 1600-1800s, forming a rather impressive northern empire. See, for example: infogalactic.com/info/Deluge_(history) or infogalactic.com/info/Great_Northern_War

Scandanavian cucking is very much a recent thing that coincides (surprise, surprise!) with Jews taking influence in their societies, and the birth of leftism in the 19th century.


I thought not.

TRS is full hog anti Trump now because they need to pretend they are to right of someone whilst simultaneously having raging homosexuals and Jews in their midst

Indeed.

Somebody get this guy an open top car ride through Turkey ffs

Are you on the inside? Do you know how many people they lost, or can you gauge it from the shitstorm that happened there? I see they don't have nearly as many articles or podcasts anymore.

Rerolling for dubs to confirm this and also not to make him a martyr for the Jewish cause.

No rerolling; this isn't cuckchan.

Kek confirms.

I hate naming myself every time but as the /trs/ bo yes I'm about as inside as can be.

They lost a shit load of traffic, just look at their Alexa graph. Goes from. Solid upswing to a noticeable crest getting ready to drop off. They just had an event in Texas where one guy got arrested for choking a girl so eventually people

Eventually people will get tired of getting doxed just for being part of TRS.*

apex kek

Where did I say this?

here

Oh, wait, you just can't read. My bad. Allow me to rephrase for your benefit, "intellectually different" user. "Unless you think Europeans have been existing without culture for the last thousand years." Clear now?

Oy veyyyy goyim!!! Pray to (((Yaweh)…i mean (((Jesus))).! Of Course, pray to (((Jesus)))

Modern day "pagan" larpers explained:


alt-right "pagan" larpers believe paganism provides them with these so they can be white kikes.

September 11: The First International Anti-Semitic Conference - For the Peoples of Christian Nations Threatened by Judaism
In the course of the past centuries, the culture, civilization, prosperity, and future of the European Christian peoples were threatened, in turn, by Arabs, Tartars, and Turks – peoples of a foreign race and religion whose attacks and onslaughts were successfully fought back by the weapons of European Christians at the time. Likewise, in our times, another foreign race threatens the culture, civilization, prosperity, and future of the European Christian peoples – a foreign race that is no less dangerous. Nay, in terms of its means and objectives, it is probably even more dangerous than those aggressive national elements. This foreign race is the Jewish race.


Read More -→
germanhistorydocs.ghi-dc.org/sub_document.cfm?document_id=581

we have retained fundamental aspects of our natural PAGAN character under the guise of the christcuck (((god))), which has slowly but surely eroded much of this and placed us in the situation were in today.

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Jews, as an organism, have most definitely profited from the idea that they are God's chosen people, and "racism" isn't something bad, it's just natural.

I don't think Jews invented Christianity to cuck whites. I just believe Christianity is a strand of Jewish culture and Jewish culture has an inherently feminine side to it that is not suited to the natural archetype of European man which European paganism traditionally represented.

but Jesus opposed YHWH and taught literally opposite morals (hence why you call his religion Cuckianity) and this is why Jews killed him.

Not according to the (((Bible)))

Jesus was a proto-SJW for the poor oppressed degenerates of Judea. That's literally it.

Christianity was first formed to directly and defiantly oppose jewry.
Hence the last 2,000 years the kikes spent in destroying and denigrating Christ's name.

Christianity was the only way Christian nations could cohesively unify white nations to resist and fight against international jewry.
See post

It is for kikes and far-right niggers as much as empathy is natural for whites.

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Us having European Christian ancestors who were antisemitic doesn't change any of the core Jewish essence of Christianity, sorry.

Yes Jesus pissed off the existing Jewish power structure in Judea, so what? His doctrines were still fundamentally an expression of Jewish culture. You're literally subscribing to civic nationalist arguments if you think Jesus was some kind of "based Jew".

No, whites kept their natural values, which are independent of whatever particular religion they follow. Stop with this bullshit magical thinking. If you're going to reduce paganism to inherent European values (which makes me question whether you really are a pagan rather than just a shill) then it becomes not a religion at all. Nothing about Europeans is inherently pagan, unless you want to tell me that somehow you are genetically predisposed to believing in Odin and Valhalla.

You need to get better talking points than rehashed memes. "Oy vey, it's just coincidence that the decline started with the birth of leftism and the Jews seizing power. It was really the Christians all along waiting for a thousand years to seize power that up to this point had no effects!" Sounds believable, it really does.


Jewish culture has only meaningfully existed since their return to Europe from exile by the Romans post 600 AD or so. Before that were the Judeans, who are (supposedly, but this is disputable) the ancestors of modern Jews, and of whom we only have limited records and understanding (and no record of religious tradition or the like).

Christianity doesn't have any inherent character. No religion does, because no religion is independent of its believers. The believers have an inherent character, and they will give that character to the religion they nominally follow. That is why the supposedly same religion across different races differs so wildly. European Christianity is just as European and representing of European values as the paganisms that preceded it, because it was Europeans who practiced it. Anything else is magical thinking.


Why are those posting Bible passages always allergic to posting the context for them, as well as how various Christian groups interpreted them? Here's a pro-tip: what any religion actually says doesn't matter, because humans have a tendency to go with what they want to do anyway and use whatever they want to justify it afterwards. Look at Protestants who are perfectly fine ignoring most of the Bible when it comes to their practices, for instance.


Religion never really unites anyone. Sorry to break it to you.

This is the bare minimum of what every sane European man should be able to recognize. Christianity is simply a branch of Judaism - the Bible even explicitly says that the goyim are wild branches that are put into the noble olive tree that is the Jews!

This is what (((Christians))) believe
Romans 11


According to the (((Bible))), as clearly seen above,
1. Jews are still God's chosen people
2. God has not rejected his chosen people
3. Everyone who is not a Jew is a simply a "gentile". Only Jews are something special; the rest, white people, "godly niggers" and everyone else are all just "gentiles"
4. (((Paul))) preached to dirty gentiles only in order to make Jews jealous
5. Gentiles are a "wild olive shoot" that was grafted in the olive tree of Judaism, that is nourishing them.
6. Gentiles shouldn't be arrogant towards the tree that is holding them as wild branches: Jews…

Why was the Christian church up on trial at the Nuremberg after the war and as a result was forced to acquiesce to international jewry with Vatican II.

Essentially the reason our world is in the shape it's in is because the allies firebombed Europe into jewish controlled Hell leaving the only unifying force at the time [Christianity] deactivated and neutralised.

Take a fucking bow commies kike enablers.

Anyone, pls.

see post for actual proof that the entire awakening to the criminality of anti-Christic international jewry all down to unifying Christian white nations

what the fuck are you talking about? you haven't answered the question.


of course we have a culture. a european/semitic hybrid. if you want to get rid of semitic influence, and have a purely european culture, the obvious solution is a return to the point right before semitic influence was introduced.


european values have changed drastically. you seem to think that because it didn't happen overnight, christianity couldn't have anything to do with it. that's bullshit. the trajectory is clear.


paganism isn't one religion. the other religions you mention are monotheistic religion that were started by one man who gained followers. paganism is a term for a variety of folk religions that have evolved over time.


christianity made jewish influence possible in the first place. but how were they able to cuck us, when our values are genetically influenced? because culture also matters greatly. christianity is weak. paganism was strong. the pagan gods were strong, and inspired strength in their followers. "please the gods by making your own nature like that onto the gods."

the only unifying theme at the time was the call of the eternal aryan blood in many european countries.
do you think cuckstianity which worships weakness and tell you to love your enemy was responsible for the heroic fight of germany and its allies against all odds?? it was the call of the blood of our ancestors and REAL gods

Hey bud, I know like to spam the same images here, but never like to answer questions about them, so here we go again:
Image 1- Christian missionaries. Done.
Image 2- And if one wanted to subvert Islam one would do the same thing. That doesn't make Islam based.
Image 3- You forgot to include they invented Christianity too.
Image 4- Christianity is so kike controlled that you can't validate your religion without referencing a kike in some way.
Image 5- Want to do the math on those stats to show the relationship between those percentages? Last time your answer was "fuck you" so I know you know what point I was making. You just weren't man enough to face it.


youtu.be/styLx-iWwC8?t=1h13m39s
See attached image.
And here's your based Christian pastor getting his and his grandmothers DNA test. Something surprising shows up. Can you guess what?
https:// youtu.be/styLx-iWwC8?t=1h26m22s
His granny is #1 kike :^)
https:// youtu.be/styLx-iWwC8?t=1h28m26s
And he's Jewish!

Interesting image. You compare "Strong pagans and atheists" to "christfags" but the images says "believe this is a god" vs "christian demonination". Let's see what honesty dredges up:

UK
Full and more recent graphs can be found: https:// en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_the_United_Kingdom#Religious_affiliations

Sweden


Thanks Christianity! Slowly erasing European culture and identity one generation at a time!
https:// en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Sweden

Here's where your 18% stat comes from: https:// en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Sweden#Demographics
The problem is they're still Christian. How do you square that circle? More importantly why does a kike worshiper need to lie in order to validate their jewish religion? I think I answered my own question there.

We also know Sweden turns over it's official twitter account to Swedish citizens regularly so again your headline is deceptive. Same pattern exhibited by kikes.

Germany
https:// en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Germany

Christianity is a kike religion. It requires lying to support it, and apologetics (pilpul) to explain away its vast amount of flaws. The adherents are no better than kikes whether they're sucking off Israel, claiming "we wuz j00s", opening borders, or converting muds in an attempt to fill their coffers.

pls.

The only person the jews hate more than Hitler, is Jesus Christ

That's exactly my point pleb. Paganism was a NATURAL expression of our people and values. Not a foreign intruding religion that got a foothold due to historical anomaly and got forced on the common folk slowly over the course of hundreds of years by elites cucking for material gain, in a very similar way today how our elites are turning everyone to accept multiculturalism for material/political gain.


Yes, yes it does. It is fundamentally egalitarian and internationalist and espouses the Jewish concept of God and divinity. It is also inherently liberal and a complete inversion of the natural order, like all liberalism. Weakness is strength, forgiveness is the ultimate triumph. Left wing egalitarianism is essentially a late stage and atheistic version of Cuckstianity. Doctrines like original sin, love thy neighbour have forged the European man's mind of hundreds of years and left us what we are with today.


Congrats now you're arguing like a true (((Abrahamic)))

pls

far right = white kikes

That looks like Heimbach lmao

Time to loot and burn down the Vatican. It has served evil for too long at that point.

It is him.

I like your way of thinking, user!

Jewish kosher conservative compromised and co-opted movements in the West
Again fake kosher-nationalism designed to misdirect and steer the movement kikewards
No we hate zionists because they have enslaved the world enabling every nation-wrecking scheme and trick to flourish while tying the natives hands behinds their backs as they flood the European homelands with various 3rd world filth to displace them

alt-right/counter-jihad/ kosher conservative fake-nationalism is a jewish scam.
National Socialism is one very effective [proven] solution to the jewish problem. Perhaps with a few adjustments (like actually gassing 6million and more kikes), it can be even further improved.

The current (((pope))) is a faggot. Orthodox or GTFO

"The only person who has been more lied about than Hitler is Christ."

Nice variation, more succinct and legible to read too.
I will use that from now on, thanks.

I come from a nation which was preserved culturally yet sold out both economically and intellectually by the catholic church. I hate them just a bit less than I hate other Semites. I still hate kikes the most.


6 millions in the US alone right now. Another 6 millions in Israel and around 20 millions globally. That is only those recognized by Rabbis, it doesn't include those who have kike blood on the father's side (or those related to the house of Saud). Gas them all, not a single Juden gene needs to survive.

The man is deliberately undermining the vatican and catholicism.
He is part of the beast.

This is now telling christians to ignore a physical threat completely.
At least he recognised it in the past.
Jesus is about the truth, not living a lie.

I fucking hate shills.

Surprise surprise that the OP was just waiting to bring out his copypasta anti-Christian memes. Should everyone on Holla Forums just assume that whenever a thread about Christianity is posted it's simply an excuse for your shill group to post your stale memes again?


Confirmed for being actually retarded. Did you even bother reading it? It clearly says "I want Europeans to survive, not for any other purpose or merit."

You must have come up with this while high. "Europeans are infected with this thing called 'Semitic culture' that I won't define or provide evidence for, and the only way to get rid of it (and you totally want to, even though I can't tell you what it is) is to go back to things that we actually can't go back to because they aren't recorded because they were from a time before European civilization." You sound distinctly Jewish; it's on the same caliber as systematic racism: invisible, indefinable, but always there and requiring you to do whatever Jews want you to do to get rid of it. I'll tell you what I'll do instead: emulate the practices of the Europeans at the height of their power.

Maybe in the last century with the height of Jewish power, but they remained pretty steady before that. A European in 1800 was not appreciably different in terms of values to a European in 100 AD.

You really oughtn't start jumping up and down about that when you yourself referred to it singularly. Not that it matters, since my point remains the same. We don't have any evidence of any European paganisms existing before about 500 BC to 1 AD, save for Greco-Roman paganism which goes back further (perhaps as far as 1000 BC or more).

True, but that only means we don't have any information about the gestation period of other religions ("non-prophetic religions"?), which means paganism could have emerged in any amount of time at all, which doesn't help us say anything definitive about it.

If you're going to be that pedantic we'll be specific and say that, for example, Germanic paganism has an unknown gestation period and that we cannot reliably say it existed before about 500 BC, but that some other paganisms almost certainly did exist before that.

Jewish influence came about in an era of de-Christianization, so that doesn't make any sense. Nor does it make sense considering the Jewish influence throughout the rest of the world. Are you honestly saying that a non-Christian Europe would have somehow not let themselves be Jewed for inexplicable reasons? Why would the mechanisms of Jewish subversion (corruption of authority, plays on white compassion, etc.) function any differently? Given the evidence that the most pozzed whites in our societies are non-Christians (with the notable exception of feminism-flavored pozz) how do you figure that non-Christians are anymore resistant to Jewing than Christians?

Because, unfortunately, whites have rather weak in-group preference and always have. This has been a problem since the dawn of European civilization, and you're kidding yourself if you think otherwise. For example, there were several Greeks who championed the Roman Republic as a civic nationalist empire who would bring peace and brotherhood amongst all men.

So strong it died out? Does not compute. So strong that the Vikings were perfectly content raiding and raping other Europeans before selling them to the Muslims?

Then why do Europeans not behave appreciably differently under paganism than under Christianity? Moreover, how do religions have a magical power to tell their followers what to do? How does this make sense in light of the common observation that people are perfectly content to do what they want and justify it later?

Holy fuck. Do you guys even bother reading past what you want to see? Great to know that paganism is nothing more than inherent European values and therefore not a religion. What are you complaining about then?

You're actually retarded. Stop with this stupid magical thinking.

I'm beginning to think that you stupid fucks don't bother reading anything and just post the same stale memes over and over again. It's like a fucking joke now.

And on, and on…

I'm willing to bet you guys aren't even pagans, but just anti-Christian shills who derail discussion into useless things and shill magical thinking around. Here's another pro-tip, on the house: saying "This is shit and is bad" doesn't solve anything or help anyone. Saying "adopt paganism somehow and it'll totally solve all our problems" doesn't solve anything. You shills don't offer anything useful. All you have is rehashed stale memes.

If any of you idiots truly thinks that if Europeans just think in the "right" way everything will be perfect and we'll never have trouble ever again you are as retarded as the leftists you almost certainly are.

by stirring racism and other animosities between goys to divide and conquer them and keep their eyes off as Jews pursue their tribal interests
colonialism is example of this
kek, see my mention of stirring shit between goys above

Perhaps best way to stop refugees would be to stop creating them by destroying their countries in the first place.

Do you want to know how I can tell you aren't white?

Look, there is no problem with people like you, there are however problems with people who are real Christians. Hypocritical Christians who don't behave like a Christian can be great men, but once they become real Christians they turn into queer cucks.

I used to believe that it's the other way around; that Christianity is good and only individual Christians are bad. But now I have come to realize, that the opposite is true: Christianity is bad, but individual Christians are good as long as they don't actually study and follow the (((Bible)))

"Cesare Borgia as Pope! . . . Am I understood? . . . Well then, that would have been the sort of triumph that I alone am longing for today – : by it Christianity would have beenswept away! – What happened? A German monk, Luther, came to Rome. This monk, with all the vengeful instincts of an unsuccessful priest in him, raised a rebellion against the Renaissance in Rome. . . . Instead of grasping, with profound thanksgiving, the miracle that had taken place: the conquest of Christianity at its capital – instead of this, his hatred was stimulated by the spectacle. A religious man thinks only of himself. – Luther saw only the corruption of the papacy at the very moment when the opposite was becoming apparent: the old corruption, the peccatum originale, Christianity itself, no longer occupied the papal chair! Instead there was life! Instead there was the triumph of life! Instead there was a great Yes to all lofty, beautiful and daring things! . . . And Luther restored the church: he attacked it. . . . The Renaissance – an event without meaning, a great futility! – Ah, these Germans, what they have not cost us!"
praxeology.net/antichrist7.htm

I was quoting George Rockwell, your post just reminded me of it lol. Your sentence is good too

They are literal shills.
>>>/cucktianity/1064
They have their own board that they congregate on, and if you watch them, they post with many proxies to appear to be more numerous than they actually are.

A good many of them are from Ironmarch and not native at all.

the only line you written that makes any sense.

This was and is the principle position of every single nationalist movement in the world, only when jews infiltrate and subvert the movements do they get misdirected into fighting ZoGz warZ.

The fact you can't recognise that white countries are the bare minimum requirement for a happy and healthy white nation suggests you're a multiculti loving mixed breed.

Nigerians have a right to their own homeland just as white nations do.
Mixed race mongrols are an unfortunate byproduct of jewish instigated blending, rootless cosmopolitans who have no base, no centre or structure to live by.
An unfortunate an unwanted strain that isn;t recognised or permitted in all African, Asian and Indian continents, so why should white Europeans degrade their culture and heritage to accommodate you unfortunate mistakes your irresponsible parents made?

There's this thing called the bible. Maybe you've heard of it. It's the holy doctrine for christianity. Guess who wrote it? Guess what it explicitly advocates for? Not white nationalism. The opposite of white nationalism, in fact. And there's no amount of "interpretation" that'll change the words written in that book. It is very literally the fundamental character of your religion that opposes us, and that we oppose.

Wonder why you didn't get a response to this argument.

Doesn't exist. Religion doesn't exist independently of the believers.

Since you seem to be beginning to discuss in relatively good faith, how does this theory make sense considering this type of pozzed Christianity only emerged with leftism and the pozzing of all Europeans, regardless of religion?

And your evidence of this is…?


Well, given that we haven't had a rational discussion in good faith of religion on Holla Forums since the Second Exodus (maybe post-First, if we're being honest) I'm not inclined to believe it's anything other than shilling. Any time the word "Christian" is mentioned (and sometimes "pagan") we get the same rehashed talking points, complete with retarded "Christian" posters coming out of the woodwork to very conveniently prove the anti-Christians right with memes like "godly nigger." None of the posting actually accomplishes anything of course, since at best the consensus come to by besieged regulars is "I guess we need a new religion to emerge then" and later the whole cycle starts again. It's basically a shitty staple of Holla Forums now, much like Rachposting (or Rosemary, before he disappeared). I guess the only advice is "filter and move on" since it's entirely pointless to engage at all.

I truly think anyone actually a native of Holla Forums would agree that any European who works for Europeans is okay, regardless of his religious belief. His morals are what matter, not what god he professes to believe in. Most certainly religion is not something we need to worry about at the moment, with much more pressing matters at hand.

Last post.


Perhaps you've been living under a rock, but people have a tendency to ignore what their religion supposedly teachers, up to and including (perhaps even especially) the supposed leaders.

It's apolitical. At best it's a guide for personal, private morality, not the workings of nation, state, and politics. Moreover, expecting it to advocate for white nationalism (which no religion does, by the way) is completely stupid, considering white nationalism as a concept has only existed for the past century or so.

so, just to be clear, you would want this if it meant christianity disappeared from europe, and it became pagan?


right, christianity is completely european and always was. no foreign influence introduced at all when it was forced on european peoples against their will, and suppressed their native culture/religion.


it's not pedantic, it's my entire fucking point: paganism has evolved along with us, it wasn't just made up by some guy who had a revelation. it's an expression of who we are as a people. organically european.


yes. germanic pagans were highly tribalistic and had a radically different culture. how would jews fit in?


they did.

Moreover, how do religions have a magical power to tell their followers what to do? How does this make sense in light of the common observation that people are perfectly content to do what they want and justify it later?

i don't share your view that religion is necessarily separate from culture, and paganism was a major part of european culture. of course it influenced shape people.

Okay, I'm beginning to understand why you are so stupid. It's because you're illiterate.

Neo-Cuckservativism in the US is definitely pozzed as well.

No, he's being taken out of context by the left again, as he has several times in the last month. The left is desperate for a way to attack Trump so they're using the (((media's))) version of the Pope to do it.

How much of a slimy Semite do you have to be to twist these clear words from the (((Bible))):

That's the same shit Jews say when defending Islam.

You're going to have to try better than that, shill.

w2.vatican.va/content/francesco/en/messages/pont-messages/2017/documents/papa-francesco_20170210_movimenti-popolari-modesto.html

Also, note the line 2 paragraphs up:

THE POPE JUST OUTED HIMSELF AS AN SJW.

But that's wrong.

Galatians 3:26-29
26You are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus. 27For all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. 28There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. 29And if you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham’s seed and heirs according to the promise.

Romans 10:11-16
11It is just as the Scripture says: “Everyone who believes in Him will not be put to shame.”e 12For there is no difference between Jew and Greek: The same Lord is Lord of all, and is rich to all who call on Him, 13for, “Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.”

It's very clearly accepting of jews and anti-racial identity. Don't pretend the bible isn't directly used in support for Jerusalem , racemixing, and other ills.

Oy vey, mixes up his hasbara boilerplate text and confuses his Talmud/Torah and Koran.

jews attack Christ and the European societies of white nations, islam has nothing to do with the West, its a religion that should we leave them the fuck alone, will only ever be a problem for the verminous kikes who want to takeover their homelands.
Mass immigration is a scheme of jewry to destroy the West.
We should expel all non-whites and force them into isreal to slaughter all kikes.
Just thought of that plan this second, but makes me smile to think of you squirming asking your boss what reply to make next.

Ok, let's just assume that ISIS and friends aren't Islamic terrorists who justify their every move with the Quran which, last I checked, is the holy book of Islam and are led by a guy with a PhD in Islamic studies.

What are they then?

Get gassed kike

And probably the same percentages for the Westboro Baptist Church, that doesn't mean they're not Christian.


Cut out this fucking retarded cult bullshit, it was the Jews of the Old Testament who committed atrocity after atrocity and believed that their god would allow them to feast on the milk of the gentiles. Jesus stood behind all of that. The god of the Old Testament and New Testament are the same.

You left out

Are there any reformed atheist Holla Forumsacks? I recently lost my faith and the idea that literally everything is going to end - that there is nothing but darkness that awaits, that there is literally nothing and no reason and no purpose and no reason to wake up is getting to me. I can't sleep, I can't eat, I'm just always thinking about death.

Please can someone help me

Is this guy an idiot? Even someone who takes a few classes of theology know better. And no matter how many times I ask the people who claim it, nobody can answer why after I tell them to read the Quran and then read the history of what transpired after Muhammad's death in contrast to the death of Jesus or others why Islam is the Religion of Peace™

Let's just assume that ISIS only attacks isreals enemies because of some confused miscommunication between their bosses in Tel Aviv and the groundforce mercenaries of (((ISIS)))

The single religious driving force behind ISIS is genocidal Talmudic judaism

Have you got any Britain First, or Gert Wilders propaganda memes to add alongside your bollocks written here?

there's something adorable about being called a kike by christians for quoting their jewish text at them.

The only religion that threatens our entire existence is Talmudic judaism.
Only once that criminal fraternity has been resolved all other world affairs will fall nicely back to natural order.

The muslims can continue terrorise the kikes in sandland till they are finally pushed into the sea or whatever solution is most painful for jews to suffer.

Is this not from your holy book?

You've experienced the 'the abyss gazes also into you' phenomena. What you're missing is physical exercise and/or doing outdoors activities. When I feel like this I enjoy going for a run and then reading a book or practicing a hobby.

I learned how to make a new type of bread yesterday for example.

The most atheist nation in Europe by some polls is the Czech republic, and they are also extremely hostile to refugees.

independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/czech-republic-under-fire-for-stripping-refugees-to-take-their-money-to-pay-for-their-involuntary-a6707291.html


theconversation.com/beyond-hungary-how-the-czech-republic-and-slovakia-are-responding-to-refugees-47122

Basically, what you are doing is comparing Eastern and Western Europe. Eastern Europeans have not been as heavily indoctrinated in racial self-hatred as Western Europeans. Some are very religious, and some are not religious at all.

Religion is entirely separate from this, making that a stupid question. Religion has no impact on whether or not Europe will survive. You might as well ask whether I would prefer a Europe that prefers tea to coffee or a nonwhite Europe that prefers coffee to tea. Do you understand why this is stupid?

In terms of being an organized religion, pretty much. It only became organized in a meaningful sense once it reached the Romans. Before that it was little more than a mystic cult.

A religion can't have foreign influence. It's not a thinking being. You understand this, right? Foreign influence comes from foreigners having influence, and unless Christianity somehow causes Europeans to give birth to Jews you're on shaky ground.

This shitty meme again. History is defined by things being forced on people. There's no point complaining about it. Some Europeans converted, others didn't, they fought a bit, the Christian Europeans ended up victorious, the end.

A) Actually that was the Romans, and it's the same as has been happening since time immemorial. The tribe across the valley will very happily conquer you and outlaw your particular gods and practices, and to paint this as a singularly Christian thing is dishonest, especially when in all likelihood all the paganisms did this exact thing.
B) Native religions don't exist, insofar as you are referring to a religion being "inherent" or "natural" to some group or other. Again, stop pretending it's natural for Germans to believe in Odin. That makes no sense.
C) Cultural and religion are two different things. Stop using them interchangeably. In terms of paganism, the divide was even greater, considering how weak and irrelevant religion was most of the time (e.g., see: Greeks).

No, "paganism" didn't. Various traditions and rites did that were often destroyed and replaced over the millennia that Europeans have existed for. The Germanic paganism of the 10th century is but a single snapshot of this, so either stop autistically focusing on it or simply admit that Europeans will do European things and that this can't be magically changed by religion.

Religion always is. Again, it's an expression of the people who practice it, regardless of what the religion is. It's why European Christianity is meaningfully different from African Christianity. Culture can never be foreign or inorganic, only either healthy or degenerate.

That's not paganism, then, that's tribalism, and if you're seriously saying the solution to stopping Jews is getting rid of civilization entirely you're a fucking retard. Here's a fact: if you have a civilization Jews will Jew you. Jews were Jewing the Romans before Christianity. They were Jewing the Greeks, the Carthiginians, everyone. There is no evidence to suggest that any religion makes you immune to Jewing. You have to be a retard to believe that.

No, they didn't.

It is. I don't know how you could come to any other conclusion except that they are separate things that have an influence on each other, but they are not synonymous as you treat them. You're using culture in place of religion continuously, and that is an error of thought.


I never said it wasn't.

You're a fucking retard. It clearly says "sons of God through faith in Jesus Christ." How can that be interpreted as anything other than being purely spiritual?

You are actually retarded. That is my entire point. Religions are used as rhetorical devices to subvert you. The Jew will tell the Christian "Do what I say because this is what Jesus wants." The Jew will tell the atheist "Do what I say because that will make you rational and humane." The Jew will tell the pagan "Do what I say because that is fulfilling the true principles of paganism." The Jew will tell you anything and everything to subvert you. He will use any facet of your identity, twist any belief, manipulate any emotion to get you to submit. No religion makes you safe from this. This is my entire point. Arguing about religions is pointless because no matter what religion you believe you will still be Jewed so long as Jews exist.

Arguing about religions is pointless because no matter what religion you believe you will still be Jewed so long as Jews exist.

Actual last post.

Don't worry, that is not real communism, please join

Remember, there is no good christian, they are ALWAYS the enemy of Europe.
Even if it's just by denying our true pantheon and faith.
Even if they post Luther.

They still are an agent of the sands.
Warped and infected, even if they're "good people".

Many Christians believe Israel needs to be defended because it's the Holy Land. I wonder how easier it would be to convince people of Israeli crimes if that weren't the case.

You don't have to give up on spirituality just because you lose religion. Many major religions outside the Abrahamic ones have an atheist element, not that you need any religion at all.

So "distract yourself because there's no point"

I haven't particularly expressed a personal position on my personal religion.
Just pointing out that for the last 2,000 years kikes have sought to denigrate, smear and attack Christians/Christianity and I won't tolerate that shit anywhere whatsoever in the real world.

Only kikes and communist kikes feel there is value in denigrating Christ.

Non jews who do so, do it at their jewish teachers behest, whether consciously or unconsciously, but it's entirely by brainwashed design goys do this today.

I don't want to be an atheist, If there's no point…what the fuck then

A new proxy for an old shill.

You just described anti-racial identity. Faith in based jew Jesus trumps all racial identities. There are no racial identities according to Christianity only "sons of God though faith in Jesus Christ".

Actually anti-Christian shitstorms became common only after the third exodus.

I want to say "get them to support and see the world through the ideas of the Christian Palestinians" though they are only a tiny minority today

OTOH, the problem is that if you go to just about any Church, they will spend so much of their time talking about the Jews and the story of the people of Israel. Plus Jesus and all the Apostles are Jews…it's honestly hard to keep people from identifying with them if you are buying into all of this shit.

That was my point, atheism does not equal materialism. There can still be a spiritual dimension to life, with ideas like reincarnation or continuity of spirit. If anything, ideas like this make a lot of sense.

What doesn't make sense is some God having a kid who comes to earth and wants people to believe all of this bullshit by him. The Abrahamic religions are cults. Many other religions are more open minded and teaching oriented.

Guess what this verse means. Look up the commentary on the original language if you're struggling

Also, I don't understand how you can withstand the cognitive dissonance of thinking those verses aren't clearly anti-racial identity, at least in their subtext

Oh no, I won't touch that kike stuff - I just think if there is no afterlife spiritual realm, even in a Crowley or Zen sense it's just…killing me. I can't sleep. I work and exercise, everything to keep myself distracted but I was a full on pentecostal and now it's a sham and now I just don't know what to do

Does that count Breivik as Christian Extremist instad of White Supremacist?

Calling me a kike doesn't answer the question. Was this from the bible or not? Funny you wanted to ramble about everything other than the question I asked.


How about your thoughts on these: and
In particular the part where this based pastor finds out he himself is a kike and is super happy about "we wuz jews".

Ask yourself the question if you would rather know the uncomfortable truth or a comfortable lie. No one can fault you for wanting to feel comfortable wrapping yourself in delusions but around here truth is regarded pretty highly. Disregarding the truth for this long has done our people no favors. You only feel this way because you live in a niggerized jew culture country instead of a country that looks more like what they try to demonize in Man in the High Castle.

Yes, life is a bunch of distractions but that doesn't mean its meaningless. It just means you have to define for yourself the meaning instead of expecting someone else (God in this case) do it for you.

Christianity: 2000 years of weakness and massive european infighting
5 Years of SUN WARRIOR NatSoc Germany, where everything was plastered with pagan sun symbols and runes:
Took almost the entire world of golems to take the rune warriors down.
5 Years and they created space ready rockets.
5 years and they completely unified their people.
5 years and they lifted a whole country out of the deepest pits.
Pagamism has a pantheon of strength and flaws to remind us to ever be vigilant.
Christianity has wordly teutonic knights and a weak deity that is only perfect when confabulated and pontificated about, but becomes terribly mundane and flawed in actual practice.
Et cetera.

European paganism: You are a part of the supersoldier army of the gods.
Abrahmism: You are a servant, a shit, a sinful speck that can only be redeemed by the mercy of a kike god.

This is UNDENIABLE.

jews killed Christ, the foundational principle motivation of the Church and its teachings for the majority of its existence until Europe lost the war and with the enforcement of Vatican II neutralised and deactivated it like the alt-right did to white nationalism recently…

So if you want to red-pill a Christian, start off on that undeniable truth that jews killed Christ, so thus it demonstrates their is no end to their depravity and evil on Earth.

Or after we grew up.

If religion isn't a choice, then we're all just slaves. If religion is a choice, then why choose Christianity? There are religions that are more fun; more compassionate; more pragmatic; and more spiritually-motivated. The ONLY reason to choose christianity is when you don't have an option. Personally, I find Mahayana Buddhism to be far more my taste. But then, I consider myself to be a person who has a choice, and I have studied religion extensively and chosen the best of what I've studied instead of just sticking with what I was originally taught out of fear. When Heaven doesn't tempt you and Hell doesn't frighten you - then and only then do you have a choice to choose what you believe.

That's not what happened though. Christians used to be a relatively small part of Holla Forums and /new/, but they have been growing since at least 2012.

At every juncture, Christians turn discussion away from race and towards their crusade against "degeneracy." Old /new/ used to be a combination of NatSoc and libertarians, but Holla Forums by 2015 had become a shitstorm of Christians who thought they had found grounds for proselytizing.

Now you are getting the pushback. Christians are slime, and need to be pushed the fuck off of Holla Forums. If you want to worship your desert religion on your time, that's fine. Nothing wrong with that. But don't act like your tribe is any better than the Jews you worship.

Jews always say that shit they don't like doesn't exist.
Palestinians don't exist.
Race (white people) doesn't exist.
Terrorism doesn't exist.

I've seen you before buddhism poster. I always enjoyed your posts.

Do unicorns exist? Would you be a jew for saying that? Bulletproof argument, kek.

Essentially you presumed too much about me, so I corrected that, why should I reply to an irrelevance you made that has nothing whatsoever to do with my own position stated.


Why spend a single second of your existence (while claiming to be jew-wise) attacking the very same people that communist kikes have done for the last century?

Why do you feel so safe regurgitating commie kike slurs on a board like Holla Forums?
I understand its been subverted but surely you cryptos need to be a little less conspicuous in your manner

so thats it' theres literlaly no point to anything then..i odnt care about this life i care about what comes next otherwise why be here

looks like christianity fucked you up good. Time to start caring about this life faggot

...

It's not an argument, of course saying something doesn't exist isn't jewish if it is true, but jews have a tendency to try and minimize things they don't like by simply saying they don't real.
Jews have little integrity, and will lie to your face constantly (hopefully) and make you doubt reality.

Or they turn it away from defending OUR countries towards their crusade for that useless piece of desert over there in the Middle East, no one should actually care about.

Here are some reasons. I could do a dozen consecutive posts with images like this, and more arguments and quotes than would fit in the remainder of this thread, but this should give anyone who is honest the idea.

Kek agrees

why care

Nope, not suprised.

have you ever heard of slave morality before?

Mate, are you drunk? It's oh seven hundred. I'm having a bit of a hair of the dog, give me a break I haven't had a drink in almost a week.

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You obviously feel a need to proselytize. Do you not believe in a god great enough to welcome Holla Forums?

Kikes hate christianity because it denies their prophetic mandate to rule over the earth.

You would be incorrect however if you thought they didn't appreciate some aspects of Christianity even if they dislike the theology. That it leads protestants to be the goodest goy for Israel is definitely a boon for them. That's why being a Christian is encouraged in Europe while being a nazi is illegal. That's a good litmus test by the way.

Not everyone can handle life without a jewish kike holding their hand the whole way. I would ask you to try seeing if any other non-theistic religions hold and sway within your soul. There's that buddhist user ITT without mentioning an entire country full of people practicing Shinto. Fun fact, depression in Korea skyrocketed after the Korean racial religion was replaced with christianity. Now it's commonplace to read from the Talmud in childrens' schools in Korea. There is a correlation here.

It's not easy to forge your own reason to live. If you can't handle it that's fine, but its due to your own failure and no one elses.

Yes, exactly, just like with the original Crusades.

Also, it's funny that they love to bring up Byzantium and Constantinople, when Byzantium was overthrown by the Crusaders, occupied by them for 57 years, and never recovered anything like its former glory even when the Greeks took it back. A shadow of its former self, it fell to the Turks in 1453, leaving the door open for the invasion of Southeastern Europe over the next two centuries.

To reiterate and summarize:

Christians believe the notion that a jew deity sends them to hell unless they accept the mercy of the jew deity and become its servants, slaves and worshipers.

Christians believe that this is the real and honest and good way for Europeans.

Christians are unable to read these two statements and also truly understand the insanity of it.
You could lock them in a room and plaster all the walls with these statements and it would mean nothing to the Christian.

You could recite this simple truth to a Christian day in and day out and they would not see anything weird, wrong, out of place or otherwise suspicious about it

That they, Europeans, are under the spell of a jew promised heaven they can only escape by worshippping a deity from the middle east, or forever be cast into a hell that deity also invented.

And, again, the Christian cannot read the prior sentence.
They see the symbols, perhaps, but they don't read any words.
It is strange, but that is how it is.

Can only reach.
Not that the correction matters, because, again.
Christians cannot read it.
It's like niggers looking at cursive.

I'm convinced christianity was a plot to attempt to control the and subvert jewish nation-wrecking. To try and convince the kikes to simmer down by throwing them their hippy messiah.
But the jews wouldn't let go of their evil ways and pushed the goyim to accept their weak religion. It's how they can simultaneously hate christ and still push "christian values" on whites.

So international jewry have attacked and destroyed the church, as a direct result of WWII, and you use that as a stick to beat the institution that held together European Western civilisation all the way until that war…

Can you name me one Western institute that isn't today polluted and corrupted by the kikes?
Fuck, even the most heralded present day hero Trump on here is up to his nuts in zionist neo-con kikery and want's your children to die fighting for isreal.

So yes you provide ample evidence that the church has been degraded by jewish subterfuge, yet without Christianity there would never have been any unity to fight against jewry as it had 100's of times in the past 2,000 years.

Now Christianity is weakened and philosemitic, just like the majority of fake kosher nationalist movements in the West today also.

The jews have pretty much ruined all that was great and good in our society.

Dude, it's hard. Aryans are a naturally spiritual people, far more so than the kikes who invented their religion. We are good people. We are spiritually-motivated people. And that's what makes the last hurdle to clear so difficult for us. We don't want to rebel against God, because God is at the center of our collective hearts. Redefining the divine to its own ends is truly the most perfidious action of the jew, because it turns our own goodness against us. I feel sorry for our christian brothers for not realizing it. I've been in the same ignorance myself, and our entire culture is set up to approve of the christian god and spread its teachings, while trying to be a pagan or a Buddhist or literally anything else puts you on the fringes of society. If you're a christian you always have an IRL group you can appeal to; if you're any other religion, you're always going to be on the outside looking in, at least in America. There's enough sadness in the world without committing yourself to a fringe religion… but in the shredding hatebox search for truth, I ended up having to step outside that accepting sphere, myself.

I haven't slept in 3 days…all it is is despair….looking into mahayana…

And the mental gymnastics they must do to make believe that this religion offers anything to the people to the West.

Anything it has that is good, like artwork and cathedrals, were from us, and wasted on a lame story about a Jewish religious reformer who was later deified in the retelling.

I used to buy into the "Jesus was a peace-loving hippy" type, because that honestly is appealing. Idealistic, but we would be dishonest to say that whites in general don't admire that.

However, IMHO, that was not even Jesus's message. He was simply a character in different circumstances than the men of the Old Testament. He wasn't a great king or anything like that, he was a religious reformer who was strongly opposed to other Jewish sects of the time, particularly the Pharisees.

He wasn't someone in a position to lay waste to villages of his enemies and kill them all or battle the Romans, he was proselytizing for his beliefs among the local Jews.

Larpers should have their own containment board that they can D/C all they want.

nosense. would you prefer a pure white pagan europe, or mixed-race christian europe? it's a simple question, why can't you answer it?


of course it can. if all of europe converted to shintoism, that's foreign influence.

lol. they engaged in pretty much exactly the same behavior isis does: conversion by force, massacring unbelievers, destroying sacred monuments, etc.


nobody had any interest in forcing paganism on others, because it's not a universalist religion, it was simply their culture.


odin is just an expression of an archetype. other europeans worshipped similar gods under different names.


no. religion is part of culture.


these various traditions and rites are what we call paganism. and they were all very similar to each other, but very different from christianity.


i think civilization will end itself, but that's another matter.


of course they fucking did. not right after conversion, but gradually.


i don't treat them as synonymous, i'm saying religion is a part of culture.

I find the story of Jesus to be the story of the one good jew. He was a jew, learned their ways, and came to hate them for the same reasons we do. I think he was a great prophet, a great bodhisattva, a great teacher - but not """(((savior)))""".

Let me reiterate.

European/Western Christians believe that a hell invented by a jew deity awaits them if they do not seek the mercy of the jew deity.

That's all there is to it.
That is the core of it all.

Again. Same sentence.

European/Western Christians believe that a hell invented by a jew deity awaits them if they do not seek the mercy of the jew deity.

Christians think nothing wrong of it and feel lost without it.


Blabla, muh christian Hitler.
Meanwhile pagan insignias and runes plastered all over the soldiers and the elites.

Do you really not know that the NSDAP was virulently anti-christian?

Christian confirmed.

But you guys were always bad. Christianity was used by the gypsies to invade Europe during the Middle Ages, you protected the Jews while giving them a monopoly on money-lending, you fought against the Spanish when they wanted to drive the Moors out of Spain (you wanted them converted, not gone), you fomented religious wars between Europeans.

There is nothing good about your religion, user. It makes you feel good, that is all. Virtually any other major non-Abrahmic religion would be better for you. Buddhism would be better, Hinduism, Taoism, almost anything except for pure cults like Scientology.

sasuga christcuck

shit meant for

And I think that is the best possible reading of Christianity, and if all of the Christians on Holla Forums were like that, I don't think there would be any conflicts at all.

Why were all the Axis nations led by the calls of the church to defend Christian Europe sanctifying national socialism?
Why was Christianity stood under trial and several leading Bishops at the Nuremberg trials.

Only in the zionised nations of the West, Britain, France, America were the people compelled to kill white Germans to defend international jewry

Except it was Alfred Rosenburg's plan all along to phase out positive/negative christianity and replace it with pure blood worship with the swastika instead of the cross. I urge you to crack open a book.

He is if you compare him to the jews of the old testament.
Didn't a couple of jews in the torah trick some stupid goyim into mutilating their dicks and then attack them in their sleep while they were recovering from the wounds?
Jesus was just there to try and convert the kikes into not homicidal neurotic nation wrecking tricksters. He failed. And now the weakness and subservience he preached is being taught to whites. It's destroying us.

We don't need a kike religion to keep us "in check" or have morals. Devil worshiping whites are probably more sane and peaceful than any jew you will find. They are a sick people, and we shouldn't be adopting anything from their culture, especially a religion.
Most of Iceland is athiest or agnostic. They're all white. It's the most peaceful, non-violent, beautiful and high-trust place on Earth. Because of whites, not kike religion.

I asked your thoughts on the specific point about the "based" preacher revealing he's a kike. Why do you feel the need to deflect or insult whenever you're asked to clarify your position?

As for the trial thing, it was just the church making the wrong political play and being weak cucks like they are doing nowadays. Back then they thought Hitler was going to win which is why they didn't go against him as strongly as the Allies would have wanted. I think it furthers his point, not diminishes it.

It was exactly the other way around. Historical NS struggled greatly with the Churches while the USA was lead into war by the (((Churches))) to fight the evil pagan Nazis.

You are far from alone in that realization. Former mormon here. Realized it was all bull shit back when I was like 12. 33 now. It really gets me when christfags are all "it's true , we really know it's true" then when asked how they always respond "we have faith it's true". Anyone else see the bull shit here? I had a couple of very vivid dreams when I was a teenager about running up to the pulpit and screaming at everyone to wake up! That shit felt so real. Still got my Eagle Scout and then walked away from it all at 18 when I moved out of my parents' home

Just look how the D/C jews fear actual quotes by Hitler.

Go actually uncuck or destroy christianity if its so terrible
But shitposting here wont do that, but thats not your goal. Your goal is to D/C.
You havent read mein kampf. Why any true natsoc should care what your one sentence posts contain when you dont even read others posts or havent read hitlers thoughts?
Most people are stupid, religion is there to guide them to live better since they're too stupid to do it without, hitler knew this. You apparently dont.

Hitler had major problems with the different churches, the Catholics in particular.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_resistance_to_Nazi_Germany

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_resistance_to_Nazism#Role_of_the_churches

Please reference why Hitler felt that Christianity needed to be reformed to be useful. Why would he need a 'positive' christianity if he didn't consider classical christianity negative?

When 9/10th of a thread is against you, lad, maybe you are the D&C

And you go fucking look at your average SS soldier.

This picture alone features FOUR symbols for the sun.
One of our most holy symbols.

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and for the dense among you.
Each "S" is a rune for "sun", so this shot of a single soldier in the front shows four fucking suns alone.

But as I said, I think most or maybe even all of it was that his story was that of a wandering holy man with a small core of followers while the Romans controlled the Levant. His wasn't the story of some great Jewish king fighting off his enemies.

His actions were usually kindly and generally just, but his language was often combative, with reference to swords and families in opposition to one another.

he was not canonically elected
he was sent by Jesus Christ to fulfill

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While this symbol is commonly called "Black Sun" in the modern era, it's actually as Sonnenrad - sun wheel. It goes back to at least 14,000 BCE.

If a semetic religion needs defending, "interpretation" and revision to be semi-good for European peoples it is not acceptable.
Adopt the gods of your ancestors or don't adopt any gods at all. It would be better to adopt far eastern gods, even, not the god of your mortal enemy.
You can believe on yahweh all you'd like, but it is detrimental for you to try and poison your brothers with this sick and harmful religion. Be happy that more and more whites are leaving the god of the chosenites.

Fancesco of Assisi was basically a furry.
I don't really care about all these christian prophecies, chirstianity is a jewish psyop anyway

why do you think him to be that?

Completely deceitful contradictory and disingenuous bollocks

In fact all Axis nations were fighting under thew banner in defending Christian Europe, they lost and now retrospectively sneaky cunts and kikes are mutating that truth into illogical bent-logic claiming the absolute reverse of the facts.

Aloysius Stepinac was brought to trial at Nuremberg as was the Church, it was crushed and punished after the war, leading to the West's rapid decline into soulless degeneracy and perversion. Today those same communist kikes now blame the church for international jewry's defeat of them.

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Fuck off, catholicuck, your faith was dead before you were even born.

Cites kikepedia

Every single axis nation venerated Christ and fought to defend Christian Europe against the infernal international jew.

This.
So many mancenturies wasted trying to work around the semitic garbage.
Creating six gorillion denominations who differ the most on those topics.
Dividing our people left and right, just so they can go to "heaven".

Artificial problems with artificial solutions.

To reiterate.

The core and impetus of all actions of any western christian:
European/Western Christians believe that a hell invented by a jew deity awaits them if they do not seek the mercy of the jew deity.

All "christly" actions are based on this singular core truth.

European/Western Christians believe that a hell invented by a jew deity awaits them if they do not seek the mercy of the jew deity.

Anyone should meditate on this. Cut away all the "fancy fat", and meditate on this quintessential core, the kernel of abrahamism.


Indeed. Another powerful icon of our people.

And to demonstrate the communist kike bare faced cheek

taunts and goads Christ and his followers sneering at its destruction by the jew.

I wish I could but beyond reading his toughts in the book I really cant.
Just because its not perfect now doesn't mean we cant make it. You have to admit your avarage below 100 IQ person usually relies on something greater than himself.
Why not use it to guide them to be more productive and less degenerate?


When there are literllay paid shills on our sites from time to time is this supposed to be a good measurement of things?
If most of the populace supports jews, commies and other lefties does that mean they're propably right?


I'd put Hitlers own thoughs above clothes and symbols but hey what do I know


You can propably back this up then?
And even if we assume that I did misinterpert it that doesnt prove I havent read the rest. Have you?


Mind you I'm not saying every country should have christianity, no that would be madness. How could I know your country better than mine? But demolishing it is also not an option in every country either. Just like the first pic I posted paganism has died and been laid to rest in countries and serves the people less than christianity.
Like hitler said, if we want certain values to thrive we must go where they can be found and cultivate them.
They wont fall from the heavens or by shitting on people on Holla Forums who believe in christ.

The problem is that Christianity isn't spiritual it's an identity. Christians have tried to infuse European spirituality into Christianity which is why there are so many factions that are all collapsing today except in mud societies. It's a mud religion for mud people. For as powerful and beautiful as European spirituality is it still couldn't sustain the desert religion. Sadly as the Christian illusion crumbles many Europeans are left with a void because they've lost their connection to their spiritual heritage believing (because it's all they've known) that one cannot be spiritual without permission from the jewish church. Christianity has gutted the European soul. The sickest part is watching Christians acknowledge this fact then claim that it's better to keep Europeans under the Christian illusion rather than wake them and rebuild.

Needs a source.

Blabla.
Muh christian Hitler.

Choose one of the following to prove if you live in the same reality as I.

Christianity is banned in Germany because it was the source of power of the evil Nazi empire.

Pagan/Völkisch iconography is banned in Germany because it was the source of power of the evil Nazi empire.

What's it gonna be?
What will you choose?

Are you from our universe, or from another one?

So the Catholic church didn't fight against Hitler at every turn? They didn't denounce Hitler's attempts to form positive Christianity based dually in blood and soil in 1937?

The Christianity we have today is the Christianity that catholics themselves wrought. That they didn't fight against Hitler was a power play that went badly for them and they were chastised for it.

Catholics even edited the fucking Nicene creed to put the blame for Jesus' death on Pontius Pilate instead of the kikes. Wow great religion you got there. Christians can't even unite into a single denomination in one of the most united countries at any period in history, really a wonderful boon to white people!

Christians have defending and shielding kikes since Charlemagne.


Who is below 100 IQ again lmao?

why trust a man who wears a fish head hat?

See? You christians can't hold two ideas in your head at once. I'm an Aryan, and I never deny the spirituality of the Aryan people, I just think you're choosing a poor vehicle to express it. The catholic faith died at Vatican II. There's nothing left of it after that, and if you still consider yourself a catholic, you're either a hilariously lost modern or part of a splinter group of a splinter group of a splinter group and either way your religion is not representative of Aryan spirituality.

Maybe with this double think you would prefer tumblr my friend?

And this is why it is dangerous for whites to adopt. It teaches them to be passive and not defend themselves, but instead to show devotion and nothing else. To the semetic god, you are just as good worshiping him as a slave as you are worshiping him as a slave owner. It teaches complacency and a complete disassociation from the natural world. Instead of a downtrodden man making himself and his life better through hard work, knowledge and sacrifice, he must instead grovel to some ethereal being. There is no theme of self-betterment for christians, only subservience.
And if jesus did teach the chosenites to fight for themselves as a group, then yahweh would just remain the god of the chosenites. Christianity's universality is it's weakness, not strength.

Proper filthy kikery

You like a kosher nationalist present two false paradigms
Demand I must choose one of the false jewish narratives

Fuck off you demonic kikes

I'm willing to respond to your question as soon as you respond to my original one.

I'll even give you a hint.

cuckchan migrants everyone

The Christian USA fought to destroy National Socialist Germany.
The National Socialist opposition in the UK (Mosley) was attacked by the Christian UK like Churchill. The National Socialist part of France attacked also by the Christian churches.

No one can be this autistic

If you understood figurative lang. that is used throughout the bible you would know what I am saying.

But it's all a sham, of course.

NatSoc Germany was 100% christian, all this pagan shit was just larping, because that's what any christian trying to spread the glory of christ would do.

Am I right?

You know saying 'autistic' isn't a substitute for an argument right?

The scientifical proof for the fact that the Jewish authors of the Bible stole most of their tales from Babylonian sources and during the time the Jews were captive in Babylonia, was already brought during the third Reich.

One of the things they copied was, for instance, the great flood:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flood_myth

I gave you an example of Cardinal Aloysius Stepinac

Every Axis nation had a similar story to tell and does.
You cite retrospective kikery in demeaning and undermining the church to support your kikery.

The problem with the Anglo-American speaking world is that it's entire understanding of the world today is based on lies upon lies written by lying jews.

Go to any Axis nation and see for yourself just what they were fighting for

He's right about the old testament being construed and put together during the exile, but the scripture predates that exile.

He's getting a bit muddled. Also the NT was definitely not babylonian :^)

I agree.

Oy vey, you mean genocidal warmongering zionist servant and lackey Churchill - if not crypto kike with his suspicious New York mischling mother

Add this to your folder. These are two posters that were used to convince American christcuck zogbots to sign up for the war effort. Notice that the nazis are counter christianity. This was true, and christianity was used as a lever against the American zogbot to enlist them to be the goodest of goys.

Yes, I mean Christian.

No he doesnt need the people do. He saw it as a tool to cultivate the things he wanted from a good citizen.
It was good avenue to convey his ideas to a lot of people and since they allready believed in it it was much easier than to introduce them to something new or something so old it might as well be new to them.

In the end it should be what ever is easier for the people to really internalize and that propably varies from country to country. On my own personal experience paganism is no longer a valid option in my country. Perhaps it could be in yours I dont know.

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Spotted the kike.

I'm guessing you don't know what I mean when I say 'positive christianity'.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positive_Christianity

And pigs are now capable of flight

Churchill causing millions of German deaths was a good thing then? Reported you disgusting britkike.

In serious need of de-fumigation here

There are probably not so great things in paganism but they will never be as bad as your desert kike religion. The core principles behind christianity are awful. Subservience, weakness, and complete fixation of the afterlife and the destruction of the natural world. Peganism is a bloody stump of what it used to be thanks to christian revisionism, but I find that it is more in line with the Aryan spirit than any other religion I have seen.
The spirit of the Aryan people should be about honor, virtue, bravery, strength, knowledge, greatness, and respect for nature and natural order. Wherever you find these things is up to you, but you will ONLY find the OPPOSITE in christianity.
Christian virtues are tolerance, pity, shame, subservience, pathological altruism, and complacency in the face of your enemies. Christianity teaches you that greatness is evil, and being weak is the ultimate moral right.
Christianity is the religion of eternal slaves.

Oh please - I was thinking more along the lines of the dot-dot Indians being in need of poison gas.

There you go pointing out reality again. Bet you don't get a response.

I think you have that mixed up. He was convicted by the Communist Yugoslavian government. Stepinac had a relationship with the German forces prior to that, but he opposed many of their ideas.

Quote by Stepinac:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aloysius_Stepinac

I'm sorry. I will become a proper christian and worship yahweh, accept a middle eastern carpenter as my savior and give SO many tithes, it will make the local priests head spin.

Hava nagila! I am free! I will go to heaven!
Thank you, Jehova! Thank you Yeshua! Felicitations! Have my foreskin as an offering!

I hereby solemly swear to recognize all humans created equally under god.
Pic related, our equal.

I can't wait to send some aid to him. Right? Fellow Christians?


Saved, thanks!

Holy fuck BTFO

Do you have any arguments that don't involve assertions without sources and calling people kikes? Just wondering.

Dude, it's okay. I understand why western people become christians, it's pervasive in our society, it's the only (((acceptable))) way to express the innate spirituality of the Aryan people in CY+2. But I firmly believe there's a better road. You can join us on it at any time and we will welcome you, even if we don't have great churches or cathedrals or a thousand years of theology.

You do realise that Christian Europe was under threat.
Hitler didn;t start the movement to defend the Christian West, he was a culmination of a movement started way back in 1882

The 'fact' that Japan was aligned with the Axis doesn't do anything to disprove the fact that Europe was defending its Christian cultural heritage against international jewry.
That's the beauty of National Socialism it transcends all barriers, it's primary focus is to undo international jewry, much like Christianity used to before it was destroyed by communist kikes like you.

Today is a direct result of that destruction of our society, where commie minded fucks like you feel safe in repeating commie insults and not exopecting to get a bullet in the face.

Thankfully those times are a-changing, to misquote one of your horrible overated irritating kike heroes.

Have you read the news? Pigs are flying from the scene as we speak trying to sedate the public with lies.
:^)

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We had some of those, though.
Especially the years of theology.

You think Christians photoshoppped the "evidence" that paganism is primitive?
Of course not, it has been around for sooooo many years that it was around when people were ALSO primitive.

Just not *exclusively*, after all, the bible ain't a lecture book on architecture, engineering, and co. Not even carpentry.

But the primitive cavemen pagans in Europe still miraculously created temples, churches, cathedrals and co, while the equally, if not more pious Ethiopians and their old church had to hew it ouf of the ground because building was too difficult.

I mean, what's next? German/Teutonic pagans being as strong as crusaders but a whole milennium before the first ever crusade was even conceived?

IMPOSSIBLE
Without Christianity, Europe was NOTHING.

Ha ha, I had never even heard of Stepinac before this, but Christian leaders are so predictable, all you need to do is dig around for 5 minutes and you will find them saying crazy shit.

There is actually a lot of truth to this. With the rise of Bolshevism and communist governments shutting down churches, the Churches and their leaders were under threat, including even the loss of their lives.

And they still opposed the Third Reich in massive numbers.

That is how bad they are. Even with the threat of communism….

Brilliant documentary about Croatia it's very founding and its part in WWII, the fact the country and alliance with National Socialist Germany was sanctified by the church and the resultant trial at Nuremberg afterwards is testimony that no communist kike could or would dare contest.

Unfortunately the Anglo-Americanised globalist agenda has pretty much distorted all facts and known history to suit their masters agenda.

Great documentary to watch for any genuine user interested in the history of WWII from the Axis perspective in (Croatia) as not told to us by the lying jews that won it.

youtube.com/watch?v=_OeNobWvTOQ

I suppose in a way it was his own reform, he is indeed right the vatican and all such authorities are negative. How can they not be? It's ridicilous to believe that the pope actually gets word from god and isnt just a paid mouthpiece just media is. He was smart and recognized that local action trumps all. Getting involved locally. Winning hearts and minds. Vatican and church authority does try to interfere with that and that is negative in my mind as well.

However I'm skeptical about the article since publicly he claimed to be christian and only sauce for him claiming to be otherwise in private is two brittish researches one of which complained about a country being antisemitic.
Reminds be of the table talks really, with almost a hundred years between us and back then and with all the propaganda in between its impossible to know what really happened.

Thanks for the interesting read, I'l have to look at it more indepth later.


How is this bad, it this principle that makes all trade our own sweat blood and time so that the nation and our people could thrive and live better and happier?
I'm not saying this should be applied to foreing powers or niggers ofcourse not. But don't pretend it isnt a core principle of civilization.

You are the perfect example of the inherent kikery of Christianity. The most fervent believers are indistinguishable in their behavior from kikes which is why they are so drawn to a Semitic religion. You have the mind of a Semite. You adopted to the Semitic tribal religion that you were first exposed to. If you were exposed to Islam first then you'd be a Muslim.

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I'll take the 'Roman Empire' for 1000, Alex

Catholics = pope is infallible.
The whole idea of catholicism is to obey the church without question, if the pope is only some dude with no authority.
Then what the living fuck is "the church"?

Not all the sub-managers under the pope named bishops, not the sheep plebs who pray there.

So what is "teh church", magical buildings? Can they talk or some shit?

Literally is the pope is not infallible the entirety of catholicism is meaningless and not better then some protestant idiot who tells you

you have 2 options
1) realize its a meaningless old delusional men show with some crazy from old age idiot on top.

2) Actually argue that the pope is 100% right.

He (>>9298152) is being sarcastic/ironic, m8

Amazing you didn't get a response from c4e6c2 to this either. Reminds me of what Hitler said about debating jews.

See my responses and most recent one just above I made, it contains all the information any honest genuine user (i.e. not jewish or communist) will appreciate and serves as more than ample evidence that every Western goy has never been taught.

Go fuck yourself, kike lover. Europeans are strong because of their lineage not because of an ancient hippie kike.
Always put your people above religion. This is why you christfags are so fucking insufferable. BELIEFS do not make a people great. the PEOPLE are what is great.

Indeed, but Christians seem to think that Europe was a crater inhabited by apes until the jewish salvation from the middle east came along, relieved us of our accursed foreskins and our heathen brethren.

I mean, it's for the good of Jehova, after all.
The TRUE god of the europeans.

By the way, did you know that a jewish god from the middle east is our only salvation and that we will burn in a lake of fire the god created unless we swear complete fealty to said jewish god?

AS EUROPEANS WE HAVE TO WORSHIP YAHWEH/JEHOVA AND ACCEPT RABBI YESHUA AS OUR SAVIOR
THERE IS NO OTHER WAY
EVERYTHING ELSE IS JEWISH LARPING

I need to check IDs more often.

You do realise that christianity pushed many jews away from judaism when it was formed. The subversion explanation doesn't add up as a chess move.

The subsequent reformation in rome and elsewhere is a different story.
I have issues with Paul the apostle, his story is odd. He just "saw the light" yet went to jerusalem to talk to synagogues privately?

I think Jesus did nothing wrong. We just have to remember, his audience was subhuman kikes, not Aryan people. His message was universalized later by the kike Saul/Paul and had no business being applied to the humans of the Aryan world.

:^)

Your posting style reminds me of that one screencap with the skeptic leprechaun

Don't worry, dude.
I was merely playing devils, I mean Christians advocate.

It reminds me of the plethora of commies and kikes that have absolutely destroyed this and other boards like it.

Dude, we already collectively converted to Christianity now.

So let's stop fighting and let's talk about God.

What is your favorite aspect of Jehova and his son rabbi Yeshua?

You sound mad/christian.

Crusaders did not yell "JEHOVA VULT" when removing kebab.

And the kikes conveniently ignore this get.

How butthurt they make kikes.

Well, I'm Catholic, so my favorite part is the celibacy of the church. I think it's great that we find the most intelligent men we can find to run our churches, and then make sure they never have offspring.

Yes, he'll just ignore it and talk about Stepinac, the pro-white Catholic leader, for the rest of the thread.

what are you a jehova's witness?

Except you already gave up the ghost when you proved yourself to be a christian by going to bat for christians then pretending you're not here:

I have been arguing with christians for many years, and they ALL claim this bullshit how they're not christian because they are cowards. You are a coward. You are a christcuck but don't fly that flag because you know you'd have to own up to some legitimate criticism but because you pretend you aren't you feel justified downplaying any critique we might have.

We have your number, christcuck, your argumentative style is judaic to the point where it's comical.

SHOO SHOO CHRISTCUCKS

There you go again. I'll watch it, but how about you point to specific parts you feel are relevant to your claims. Unless you're not honest or genuine.

And people don't say "Man, I love Jon Leibowitz", they say "Man, I love Jon Stewart".

This is actually the best argument I've seen christians makes. Look, I hate kikes. But I want them gone, gone from this planet, gone from the whole fucking universe. And I want to succeed. If kikes are gone, what good is there in worshiping a god who hates kikes? I don't worship a god who hates smallpox - smallpox is fucking eradicated. You are thinking in the short term with this argument. The jewish filth will be eradicated some day, so you have to have a better argument for your deity than "he doesn't like what I don't like"

Damn man. My grandma loves the Pope. I guess she doesn't really know about all this.

So you are against massacring saracens invading our continent in the name of our ancestral deities?

This is your mind on kike propaganda.
Because Christians are not subservient to nature, natural law, and natural order, in fact, they defy it. They are subservient to an imaginary god who demands complete spiritual devotion over practicality just because.
What is the point of subservience if you only subscribe to the idea of being weak in the face of your enemies? Belief is the ultimate good in the eyes of Yahweh, this is the problem. A tribe of groveling africans in mudhuts pledging their sole devotion to christ is preferable to yahweh than western civilizations, knowledge and prosperity.
Would hitler be a great leader if he demanded devotion simply for being Germany's leader? Would he be great if he told the Germans to take it up the ass from the kikes and the globalists? Oh but as long as you believe in the fuhrer while your being bulldozed it's fine, right?

The honor should not be in the belief, but what you believe in and the actions you are willing to take to defend it.

Well he wont even comment on this
When I asked what his thoughts were I only received deflection

Same here.
I alleys get this conservatives try to censor/exaggerate
the new pope or liberals try to make him into some leftist super star.

I ignored the brightbard article and immediately went for the source.

archive.is/IAKap
w2.vatican.va/content/francesco/en/messages/pont-messages/2017/documents/papa-francesco_20170210_movimenti-popolari-modesto.html
Looks legit like fuck.
The Vatican has their own .va domain.

Yes, I've seen a lot of that. It is along the lines of


It's supposed to come off like, "Hey, I'm a neutral party, but the Christians are right!"

never got a response to

either

I'm against massacring fellow Europeans because they like it when the sun goes up.
I am against slaughtering so many of them that Islam was able to grow so much stronger in comparison.
I like that Christianity still wasn't able to convert the west fully, though, hence we still seeing Christians celebrating yule, but with a crucified kike on a wall, and having pagan weekdays and so forth

Hesitantly checked.

That is what a Christian means when they say "free will." Because people have "free will" it doesn't matter that sex is normal and healthy, you are supposed to abstain because you can choose to.

But Christianity is such a strong ideology its adherents fall to tatters when facing even mild resistance :^)

You got it.

Christians and kikes are bedfellows. Christian society has always tolerated and abetted kike infiltration. Christians house nation wrecking kikes but will genocide their fellow European pagan brothers.
This is your mind on christianity. Rid yourself of this disease.

Don't know what I expected really.

:^)))))

Are you referring to the prophesy? Isn't it canon? Did the cardinals elect him as a joke just so they can end it all once and for all?

And look at Iceland. It's still pretty socially acceptable for them to hold folk beliefs in nature spirits and elves.

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It's not possible.

I posted the quintessential core of christianity multiple times.
It remains the same as a negro coming across cursive script.

"European/Western Christians believe that a hell invented by a jew deity awaits them if they do not seek the mercy of the jew deity."

Cannot be parsed by the infected.
They remain cursed. They cannot rid themselves of "heaven".


I post the cap from time to time but I was not the author.

Thanks for confirming you have nothing to say christcucc

Maybe Pope Francis is a pro-white accelerationist!


At last I truly see. Christianity really is pro-white!

No worries, mate. We fight the good fight because it is good not because we hope to win. That's what makes us Aryan.

I just point out that:
1) kikes hate rabbi Yeshua
2) Christians used to marginalize, expel and even oven "Christi-killers"
3) Christians had institutions that pretty much kept kikes at bay compared to lets say pagan SPQR
4) Europe gone to shit the moment it embraced (((secularism)))
5) The vast majority of Western conservatives, rightwings and full blown nationalists are Christian
6) and most importantly, it's part of European people's cultural continuum for at least a millennium, depending on region, and consequently deeply ingrained in our volkish spirit.

But if you have a plan to revert Europeans to a purer spiritual, cultural and volkish state with half-assed reconstrunctionism and minimal fragmentary testimonies regarding millennium-old dead religions within the historical record, then I'm all ears.

Yeah, it's impossible. It will never work.

3) Christians had institutions that pretty much kept kikes at bay compared to lets say pagan SPQR

You know that Charlemagne invited Jews into Europe to become banking leaders because they were allowed to practice usury while he as a christian wasn't, right?

The current Pope is a kike.

It's probably thankful that your pagan ancestors didn't equalize Islam and Christianity as "abrahamic kikery" though, otherwise we would probably all speak arab by now.

Tell that to Constantinople. You do know how it fell, right?

in this thread alone you can see how deep and pervasive the semitic mental virus is. Looking at white christians like you, I can only see people bound spiritually with chains.

I believe we've already pointed out how christian efforts to murder other europeans was what made europe vulnerable to islam in the first place

Heil Hitler.

Seriously euphoric, bro.

All Abrahamic religions were invented to fight against eachother, because "my interpretation of religion is the only possible correct way." You seriously can't see that. All Abrahamic are nothing but fucking puppets. Look at all the historical in-fighting writhin Islam and Christianity. Supporting Christianity because of some hatred of Jews (Jesus was a jew) is falling for that same trap. You'd just be giving worship to the same jewish god. If anything, Christianity was just a subversive tactic of the Jews to trick more people into worshiping their god.

That didn't fly so good. Who wants to try next?

Imply more, please. Quit being a devise faggot. We're all in this together. Do I like Christianity? No. Is Paganism any better? Not really. There's no clear cut answer. Personally I'm gnostic.

I think we need a revival of religion. It's one of the first things (((they))) destroyed. Despite Christianity being cucked, the racial tones of the European nature got projected onto it anyway. I think we ought to have some form of Constructive Christianity. You can't deny that most Christians are more conservative than most of today's filth. Conservative doesn't mean they'll be more accepting to National Socialism, in fact it can be just about as alien as liberalism, but at least they don't deny their nature. We don't really have any other choice than to try and uncuck Christian doctrine. Have fun trying to introduce a completely different religion onto people who've been Christian for millennium. That's just the religious population, then you deal with the atheists.

In any case, it's easier to pave a better way for the next generation than to try and make this generation full supporters. It's just unlikely to happen.

I'm not an atheist. In fact, I hate atheists. Atheism is the denial of Aryan spirituality, which is the center of our own hearts. Sorry your christian butt hurts so much that anyone would reject semitic religiousness in favor of something that answers them better.

You mean after constantly defending Europe from endless hordes of Asian shitskins for nearly a millennium under theocratic Christian rule?

Christian virtue is egalitarianism. Christian virtue is cutting of the tip of your dick. Christianity is defying nature and seeking to distort it through devotion to unnatural things.

Man should obey the eternal laws of nature, and seek to dominate it through becoming great. Man should emulate the gods to the best of his ability. Man should understand how the world is and seek to preserve its beauty while rising to the top. Human life has no value unless they create it.
Christians think all human lives are valuable because they will become devotees of Christ.

Nature is timeless, nature encapsulates the entire universe. You can obey nature's hierarchy even if you end up leaving the planet earth. Christians cannot tolerate change, because their ideas are small and oppressive. The christian mind is the mind of a chained slave who only finds solace in his dreams. Dreams of the paradise of the afterlife. Even if you try and free him he will continue to hunker down and pray for paradise. It is better to live as a great man on earth and further the enlightenment and power of your peoples than to hope and pray for a better shot when you die, leaving the world worse off than you came into it.
Christianity is entropy until Yahweh returns and sets fire to the earth. Obey nature's hierarchy and find purpose, instead of masochistically hoping for an unnatural force to fix (destroy) everything.

Any counter argument instead of being euphoric by your own intelligence?

Why would they fear being pagan if nazi germany was christian?
;^)

In any case, though, you're wrong.

Ridding "that disease" leaves us without a church. Then you have no high ground or religious casus belli.
All we need to do is reform the church.

I believe christians need to combine with paganists. I believe Jesus was the original reformer of the original pagan religions, then the church afterwards was subverted. He tried to make a church resistant to subversion. He did not forsee the racial issues.

I believe a new "ethnic sovereignty" push for states is required. I believe it does not conflict with christianity if the church is influenced with those states.

I believe the time has come to call for ethnic division of humanity, but global systematic structure to emerge.
We cannot fully combine races without genocide, we cannot fully divide races without genocide.

This is the only plausible solution that averts global calamity and war. But the MSM must be destroyed.

Since when were the Balts and Teutons in any way relevant to Europe's struggle against Islam?

I'm glad you weren't upset by me calling you out for blatantly lying about not being a christian

The church threatened to revolt if he continued to antagonize them so he maintained his christian public face to placate them. You should really read more about it.


Says who? Non-theistic paganism is the future, not your semitic slime. Christians are the ones who destroyed European pagan traditions then whine when their filth gets assailed. Nope, we will laugh as your religion burns and then build something better from the ashes, something that isn't deracinated and egalitarian like your disgusting cult is. That you try to pretend that you're doing me a favor by inviting me back into the mind trap that is christcuckery is the problem.

The current generation of Europeans are more right wing and secular than ever before, and that's not a coincidence. This generation will restore Europe without the shackles of christcuckery holding it back.

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There you go again.

And I guess that failed epically since we were calling the name of Odin/Jupiter/Zeus in its most original form when we were butchering them along with their arab semitic brothers during our reconquistas and crusades.

I've been seeing that so much recently I could puke in disgust.


What the fuck does that even mean?
So you're a Christian.
See image 5 because that's not saying much at all.
Your bias isn't showing.
What were they before that?

The current pope is a sinner of sloth. He does not look past the immediate even though he has the keys to the kingdom. Furthermore, he now bares false witness.

That is not a pope. That is puppet.

You people are nothing but internal kikes, why does anyone engage you anymore? Maybe we should just go back to the ol' faithful

SHOO SHOO CHRISTCUCKS

No you're a nigger.

I see no problem here. European peoples are perfectly capable of creating great civilizations and moral codes without Yahweh.
Like the hundreds of times before? When will you admit constantly trying to fix this broken kike religion will finally be to our benefit? It needs to be scrapped. It's core is rotten, and the whole thing needs to be thrown out.
You will not find this through christ. Christianity is a universalist religion. There is no need to keep it around, and doing so leads to a great weakness in your people.

NIGGER
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I culturally self-identify as a Christian out of ethnic pride, I don't really believe in a Sky-Daddy Dyeus P'ter in prot-Aryan and I disagree with many parts of Christian dogma, but please feel free fighting windmills when you pretend being a pagan, Schlomo.

Compared to 50 millennia or more of traditions that are a direct offshoot of our evolution and therefore based off of our unique hardships and trials as a people which shaped our world views. Paganism is the voice of our ancestors that we can hear and know from our very blood, unlike the core of Christianity which is foreign, not grounded in our genetics, and will always be so because of its inherent limp-wristed ideology that conflicts with our nature.

Decorating a """""christmas tree""""" again, this year?
Do you have mass on SUNday?
Do you know people who name their kids after dead relatives?
Have they stopped pumping out movies with elves and dwarves?

I don't think so.
but that's how life is in a pagan world.
unless you're a christcuck, of course
who thinks that Europe must bend the knee to a middle eastern kike god

European/Western Christians believe that a hell invented by a jew deity awaits them if they do not seek the mercy of the jew deity.
They see nothing wrong with this.
It is the most natural thing to them
And they will claim to be your ally, every time
while wanting nothing more to "deus vult" your pagan ass unless you bend the knee, as well

So you're a desert tribesman?

Christian #2 denying his christianity. These people are transparent as glass.

That's not a good thing. "Secular" is code-word for materialistic degenerate in most cases.

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You know denying the Holy Spirit is an unforgivable sin, right? There's no such thing as taqiyya in Christianity even though there were many improvised crypto-attitudes under Ottoman slavery.

You know damn well what Deus Vult meant to them. Stop being so dishonest.

Pagans are the true satanists though user.

Are you ok with that? They have no scripture. They have loosely applied morals.
They lack moral discipline.


They are weaker than christianity, even if it is subversion. It cannot form a functional society without slavery.

What a great religion user! The truest red pill is knowing that the alternative to christianity lacks what it has - moral/behaivioural discipline, scripture teachings, a church and a sense of goodwill to allow the prosperous function of society.

All christianity needs is careful memetic reformation.

You mean the
JEWISH
Holy Spirit?
Going by the name of
JEHOVA
?

You sound desperate.

Wrong. Secular is used as short hand for Jew since Jews have abandoned their theology because their attachment to positive spirituality is tenuous at best.

That doesn't mean the European incarnation of the word secular is what you describe if it were to be without Jewish influence. Nice job blaming your own people for the ills befallen them by kikes, really makes my noggin get to joggin.

Yet here you are pretending you aren't a christian to deflect criticism. I've done this rodeo a trillion times before, christians, such as yourself, are cowards. You can't even fly your own flag yet you want us to think you and the ideology you defend yet pretend to not hold are what we should adopt. It's sad and anyone above the age of ten can see right through it.

SHOO SHOO CHRISTCUCKS

I acknowledge the existence of higher beings, believe in nature, honor some pagan traditions, shit like that.

Please, I'm all ears. Tell me another way because that's the only thing I see as plausible, it's what Hitler did. All you're doing is flinging shit.

Let me guess, you think you are 100% culturally Viking because you listen to Burzum?

oh no! The goyim are thinking for themselves!
SHUT IT DOWN

It's like I'm debating a real jew, not just a shitty knockoff!

And regardless, you can't deny we need a revival of religion.

I'm sorry that we boil the goat in its mothers milk, okay?
We simply don't have such superior things.


I shall memorize the glorious ten commandments posthaste.

Man, you shall not kill.
You shall not steal.
Where was this all my life?! Holy matzah balls!
I am finally mohel, I mean, moral.

that's not 'muslim' terrorism, that's race and cultural invasion.
The pope is rate.

I actually stated that I self-identify as a Christian just one post before that, Mordekai.

You are not debating shit, Chaim.

Start by answering to that:

then you might pretend that you are arguing.

Dipshit the reason that old holidays were celebrated without interuption is because the church had no problem with feasts and saw it as much easier to have feasts on the same days and change the purely religious aspects of the celebration while retaining the folk culture. Why do you think local heroes and gods who were considered virtuous were canonized as saints and angels?

How precisely is this different from

Look the church preserved the old Greek and Roman religious texts and never considered purging them.

Oh so when a christian king invades for the sake of increasing his holdings he is a dirty kin-slayer but when Caesar invades Gaul he isn't eh?
Europeans both pagan and christian, Roman or otherwise, killed each other for damn good reasons. Namely land, coin, and country. Look do you esteem Europeans was a group of warrior races superior to all others in the field of war or not? Because that is what we are, when 8,000 white Christians slaughter 80,000 saracens at the gates of Constantinople and only fall due to treachery and this pattern is observed again and again even against the Mongols who couldn't take a single stone fortification and were massacred by mercenaries in their second invasion it is difficult to say that Europeans aren't the objectively best at war in all its aspects.


There is a certain problem with this line whole like of kike paranoia of reasoning, it equates the extant kikes with a dead race. Current Talmudist kikes are a combination of the Pharisees(the kikes of the old Hebrew race), Turkish traders(mudkikes), Roman expats(kikes of Rome), and the daughters of European nobility who were so desperate for cash they sold their daughters to non-christians(so white kikes who aren't good with money). So you outbreed an already shitty portion of a population with other shitty populations, then let it stew and inbreed in urban areas for centuries and is it any surprise you get shit?
The old Hebrew where just one more nation of herders and mercenaries little different from the Hittites or Babylonians. There is little merit or fault to be found in them as a whole, they behaved like nearly every bronze/iron age population, including the Celts if you’ve read the Ulster Cycle.

The Jews failed, they were broken and destroyed for all time, the last remnant of their race is a blood-taint which barely resembles the Pharisee rats who jumped ship when the Romans scattered them. They deserved their fate because they were unworthy of a covenant with God, they existed as an object lesson. And so it was for better races to do what they could and would not.

We have kikey shit in our own race as well; or more accurately we have pussies who are vulnerable to kikery. Roundheads are certainly the kikes of England. So it is difficult to indict a dead race over having kikey faggots among them when we have some of our own. If liberal whites didn’t exist eh kikes would never have gotten their claws in us and “white guilt” wouldn’t exist.

As for Christianity being "foreign", is Woten worship foreign to germanics and nords because before that they worshiped Tyr(later retroactively made Woten's son) before the Odin/Woten concept was imported by populations which came from Anatolia? This becomes and ontological problem, how far back into our past do we have to go before a tradition is to be considered "pure"? Are we to retrace our way to some lost pre-Sumner mythos which most of these traditions originate from including the Hebrew?

And if Chrisianity is so Semitic then why were the kikes purged so often, and more often than in the Roman times when kike merchants could travel around the Empire? Why did the Peoples Crusade which presaged the First Crusade proper kill tens of thousands of kikes in Europe? For centuries the kikes were rightly see as unclean christ killers why would that be the case if this was a “jewish” faith. It is the liberal bullshit regarding equality which is antithetical to Christianity or for that matter any religion or philosophy in which states of grace and damnation exist. Equality is impossible because some are just damned by their nature, they are shit and would have always been shit. Niggers for example can never be Christian or anything else, they can only unga-bunga around a fire and ape their betters. Kikes haven’t even hijacked a proper Christian culture but a liberal heresy.

1096 cast the kikes into the sea

Why haven't you answered me?


You mean the
JEWISH
Holy Spirit?
Going by the name of
JEHOVA
?

You said 'culturally self identify as a Christian'. Implying you aren't a christcuck because of the ideology as well. Try again.

Fully agreed. That's why jewish rites were superseded by pre-existing Europagan rites costumes in Christianity.

So I will go to a lake of fire when I die? Reminder christcucks think that not believing in something is a bigger "sin" than child rape and murder. Christians think belief alone will fix the world. We can all live in huts made of excrement but as long as we believe jewish spirits are real we are good for the world!
You're going to die at the hands of muslim barbarians for your jew god? Maybe if Yahweh did good for the world I could understand dying for him. Yahweh is a god of death and only cares about more human fodder to "believe" in him. There is no goodness in christinaity, none at all.

BELIEF ALONE IS NOT A VIRTUE. YAHWEH IS THE GOD EQUIVALENT OF AN ATTENTION WHORE WITH NO SUBSTANCE

I said I 'culturally self identify as a Christian for ethnic pride reasons' which is a fully ideological position unless if you don't consider nationalism as an ideology.

new tor having issues

No church = open ended memetics. That equals to easy subversion.
Something like liberalism would poison normies.

Luther's reformation was too soft. We need either the complete removal of bible parts or a complete reinvigoration of the teaching method - true kabbalah.

OR the establishment of a council to take the kabbalah into account and learn how to deal with the teachings through experience.

Do we open pandoras box? Or do we leave it to the jedis?

Yeah, dude.
Christianity has never suppressed heathendom.
That's why they burned so many of them.
And that's why you see black priests in africa dancing around the fire.

It's totally not different in Europe because the people there already had their own true religion and culture that made them capable of building grand architectural wonders and co.

It was all bestowed upon the Europeans byyyyy
THE MIGHTY YAHWEH, TRUE GOD OF ALL EUROPEANS
ALL HAIL YAHWEH, THE WHITEST, LEAST MIDDLE EASTERN GOD OF THEM ALL!

Pre christian rome had slaves. Are you ok with that?

Because you are probably already a debt slave if that behaiviour was allowed.

Most likely you will be thrown in an oven just before that, Schlomo. I was just pointing out that it's not likely for practicing/dogmatic Christians to try deny their faith for manipulation's sake. Stop frothing from your mouth when you go berzerk on your strawman,

I have never heard of a more hamfisted attempt at trying to make Christianity sound European. Bravo, you should post that on /christ/ for them to get a good laugh. In your head movies does Yeshua wear Teutonic knight armor as well?

They killed thousands if not hundreds of thousands of arabs, turks and even kikes. What have you done for Europe?

The issue is not the religion, the issue is the lying teachers and the criminals that plague this planet.
The religion is a distraction from the major theft and murder that is occuring. The MSM is covering it all up for the sake of the banks and their tethered critters.

Where have you been for the last 900 years?

Or, in other words.
European "christianity" is full of paganism, with cuck apologists like you who cannot acknowledge the fact that it would never have taken off in Europe without bending the knee to paganism, which it had tried to conquer by fire and sword, IN TOO MUCH VAIN, running out of "escalations" (you can't EXTRA kill your heathen brothers, dead is dead) because their faith in the real Eruopean deities was too strong.
Hence Christians celebrating yule and co.

Wheras the niggers in Ethiopia are not gathering once a year to dance around the fire and fucking holes in the ground to fertilize mother earth.

Because they, unlike Europeans, had jack shit.


Blabla.
The 30 years war lost more Germans than the entirety of WW2.

Sperg out like a kike in shitty threads on Holla Forums

1. They don't.
2. They don't
3. They don't
4. So?
5. If you're still a christian, you aren't fully redpilled
6. Christainity is the shallowest religion imaginable. It isn't deeply ingrained in anything

We don't need it. It derives from jews, it gives jews far more relevance than they deserve, it advocates acceptance of other races, it accepts jews as long as they convert, and it's spiritual extortion

Also we need to decide on the best "thou shalls" and the best "thou shall nots"

Think logically. The religion is a fucking distraction. The myths are not important. The teachings are.

In you head movies did the Balts and Teutons HRE killed had any contribution to European defense against external enemies?

Christians in a nutshell.

I will try to not assfuck any angels if they come by. I promise.

Face it. The only people in disagreeance with it are fucking jews.

If you base your belief on the Christian degeneracy, please do the same for paganism.

Ah yes since European Christians killed off all European paganism and threatened dissenters with blasphemy laws we amazingly rarely saw anybody disagreeing with your semitic slime cult. My almonds are fully activated by your great post, keep enlightening my with your wisdom.

You sure like being fucked by jews by the sounds of it.

Reposting it just for you.

Okay, I think every goy in his right mind can dismiss your kvetching at this point.

The (((Neo-Conservative))) wars against Afghanistan, Iraq, Lybia and so on have also killed hundreds of thousands of Arabs and yet have done nothing for Europe.

fuck my eyes

My question is why did that stop?
Why are blasphemers not hung?

Dude, I already said that I accepted Yeshua as my savior who died for my sins so I don't have to spend my afterlife in hell created by Yahweh.

I'm on your team now, bro.
I'm just a different denomination, okay?
We still have the same idea, okay?
All hail the jew god for saving my soul.
I am finally a true European.

Seriously, Schlomo?

It feels weird to be pagan.

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I know you have the right version if yehova and yeshua worship and I have the wrong version.
You are simply better at worshipping middle eastern semite deities than I am.

I'm new at this, okay?

Pagans were possible threats that could have aligned with the enemy.

Those days are over, pagans will be forced to comply with the crusade or be considered helping the enemy.
Again paganism is d&c cancer that is indoctrinated by the kikes.

Miss your foreskin user?
They're going to die off in the nest 30 years. The only Christians that will inhabit the earth will be of the subhuman variety.

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False analogy. Pre-90 Islam was neither actively trying to conquer Europe neither did (((neocons))) tried to exterminate saracens from European/Christian lands, on the contrary they did everything on their power to bring them aboard.

Good then you should have no problem killing mudslimes then.

I know.
Unlike Christianity that worships rabbi Yeshua and god Yahweh.

I said I converted. I can finally go to heaven.

If it's just protestants than did you not even read the OP? It's all christians. They all base their religion around a fucked up moral code.

Because it doesn't attack jews user.

Shows how much you know about history. It was essentially an internal strife, the crusade pretty much stopped when they couldn't buy enough boats to ship everyone over. All the Frenchmen pretty much left and went home. All who was left was Venetians and as I said, they basically executed the siege as an internal power struggle. Thats how it was perceived by virtually everyone at the time.

That was indeed retarded and IMO proto-subversion of the Vatican was the reason. On the contrary Byzantines specifically banned kikes from public positions and from practicing usury.

It's the anti jew part that is the biggest need.

Just apply it as a code to paganism. If not it is cancer.

Praise Yeshua fellow christian. My black skin gets goosebumps when I imagine what life would have been like had I not accepted the Rabbi into my life. Praise him since we are all one in christ.

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I don't need to be told to hate kikes, it just comes naturally when I want to be great.

You do nothing but bait. Fuck off d&c shill.

Oh look… Still sperging out on your strawman I see.

Yes. As a white christian it is my duty to purge all kikes.
Such is the will of yeshua and yahweh, patron deities of Europe and enemy of all things middle eastern.

Mate you're better off trying to communicate with pond scum.

He will learn to worship abrahamic faith, yet.
Did you know that Abraham is a Germanic name?
It's basically the same as Hans.
As is Jehova and Yeshua.

Man, I love my European god.
(They're the same god, by the way. Don't want no filthy polytheism in my pure aryan religion, after all)

What about your future kin? What's the most practical way of warning them?

Writing it down. That's why i still find paganism to be cancer. Write a fucking book, then we can talk.

I see it as nothing but d&c cancer of fags that do not want to conform or discipline themselves. Do that and then you are basically christianity already with different myths.
Do it or else you are cancer.

top kek
Good ones, user
Praise Jawhe!

Let's also not forget that it was insticated by a Byzantine usurper-wannabe and the motives of shacking the city was because the treasury did not have the gibs he promised to the western warriors.

That "yeshua" is hated by the "ones that call themselves jews". Remember, they are not real jews. They're money changers and their followers.

TO THOSE PEOPLE PRETENDING CHRISTIANITY IS BETTER AT BEING ANTI-JEW THAN PAGAN THEOLOGY

Let me know when Christians sacked Jerusalem and burned down the temple because the Romans did it already. They are still so assmad at getting BTFO they dance and sperg out with their Taysachs infront of the one wall that wasn't dropped to the ground.

YOUR MOVE YESHUA LOVERS

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish–Roman_wars

I know, I know.
They're the false jews.
Jehova is the real jew.
By the way, I hate jews.
Why? Because I'm a Christian, of course.
Praise Yeshua!

No but Deus is:^)

Books are cancer, pagans used apprenticeship for fucking good reason.

Also all that liberal media that we hate? Guess what they promoted - death metal; guess what was combined with it? Paganism.

Liberal media indoctrinated paganism as a d&c tactic you blind fucktard. It also made chriatianity pathetic.
You pagans are kike indoctrinated.

As he posts using script designed to record knowledge on a machine used to record and catalog things.

Let's agree on this one. Are you saying that all Europeans should embrace either Latin or Greek religious rites since they are the only ones we have a clue about outside of cultural remnants in Christian rites?


Maybe we should also make-believe druidism for the people of Celtic-origin. After all none can prove we won't be doing it right.

Phew. What a relief.

Hands-on training works for 90% of initiates; books work for 10%. Book learning is just another deception of the jew for the most part.

Why should the whole of europe have one religion?

i referred to both the prophecy of the popes and

Praise (((Jehovah)))!

And see how that ended…

No, don't worry.
We have all converted.
No more European heathenism.
In Jehovas name I pray.

Once you pagans actually form a church by all means respect to you.
But you haven't. You wallow in undisciplined nothings rambling stories that teach normies very little.

Form a church first. Then you can criticise christianity.

Frankly i think christianity and paganism are both fucking retarded and nothing but a memetic mechanism to control normies.

Roman Kiketholicism needs to be eradicated.

Death metal is nowhere near as degenerate as nigger music and pop music, which is WAY more promoted in liberal media. I can't even think of any modern media which celebrates metal.

user you're literally kike indoctrinated.

Blind leading the blind is found in both scripture and apprentice work.

You need both.

For learning a trade sure, apprenticeship is the most valuable thing. But books are great for knowledge about other things. Philosophy, mathematics, knowledge and just for entertainment.

And therefore you think that Pagans should form a Christian-styled church in order to control them even better?

this get triggers the christkike

Also, they're building a pagan temple in Island, said to be done this year.

roll

Look if you actually are trying to revive some form of Europen paganism don't post that Code of the 9 bullshit. That was made up by an actual verifiable faggot in the 20th century and has nothing to do with pre-Christian Roman or Germanic religion.

Let me ask you an honest question and I swear I'm not being edgy. Would you be willing to beat a child of an enemy race to death in front of its mother and then beat the mother to death? Saracen, nigger, kike, street shitter, whatever the case would you be willing to batter its skull to splitters with a tire iron?

I would and I am christian. I want them utterly exterminated, their records either burned or stored in mustly repositories and forgotten. I want these "people" wiped and their memory consigned to the dustbin so that in 300 years if someone was asked what they thought of Marx or Mohammed they'd say "Who?". I want their blood spilled to the last drop so that the physical vehicle of these retarded ideas die off. I want every libtard who is vulnerable to these ideas to be shot or allowed to kill themselves off by not breeding. And I want their ideas to be known of only by a few academics who know them only so they can hold them in utter contempt and guard against any similar ideas in the future.

Do you have the same resolve I do, assuming you believe me? Will you kill them all with a smile on your face? Do you truly hold hatred in your heart? Because if you don't and this isn't the ultimate goal then what exactly is the fucking point? I'm not saying we can be sure this will happen, I'm not saying we should speak openly about it before we have the political impetus to see in through, but if our goal isn't the total annihilation of both the extant alien and the fucking traitors in our race then we are just asking for this shit to crop up again.

The church couldn't burn anybody you idiot the state had to do that for secular crimes usually treason. Also the Inquisition only turned over 8,000 to secular authorities for execution, mostly kikes who pretended to be Christians. Or are you talking about the small crusades(any war of expansion which involved templar orders and therefore required church sanctioning) in Europe like say the Balkan Crusades? Because once again IT'S EXACTLY WHAT ROME DID.


Well if the goal was to kill them, take over the nations, and then exterminate all the muds I would have suppoted them whole heartedly. Alas that wasn't the goal. The Crusades however were about making border kingdoms to keep saracens out of the fucking med, which is what they did successfully for 400 years. Jerusalem was actually a secondary consideration after the first crusade.

The problem with modern wars is that we don't burn down the saracen cities and steal all their shit, what little they have.

Have no doubt the Crusade was a failure do to poor planning but the idea that they set out to siege the Byzantine capital or that they seized a stable city which wasn't having a fucking civil war already is non-sense. It's almost like politics exist in any society.

As for the other crusades as I mentioned any army with any church contingent had to be a Crusade otherwise it was a no-no.

So I have to ask why do the neopagans who ostensibly value martial valor and military adventure deride those same activities when the christians do it? Is Rome a "kike" civilization because Romulus murdered his brother during a power struggle? Was Alexander a "kike" because he might have had a hand in assassinating his father? Or how about Caesar getting stabbed to shit a mere year after his Triumph? Or the German tribalist hero Arminius betraying and bushwacking the Roman legions attempting to conquer what would become Germany after a personal betrayal of the local governor/commander? It's almost like politics is a dirty business or something.

Because we don't have a single clue about practicing of Euro-pagan religions? Even Greeks and Romans that recorded fucking everything had shrouded their religious rites in mysticism. There's a fucking good reason that even the most famous Greek religious festivities were called Eleusinian MYSTERIES.

Aryan scholarship is a trade, not a philosophy. Once you realize that, you're much better equipped to fight the fucking jew. It should never be as hard as it is now to be a Nazi, our job is to make it easier for those who follow us.

Death metal is nothing but the expression of frustration. But it was used as a lure to pagan beliefs.

I wish it was entwined with church teachings, but that would appear to be a rabid cult to the puppy dog normie.

Of course. My resolve is to keep the pope alive, now that I am Christian.
If you kill the pope while he is under my protection then you have shown that your resolve trumped mine.

A lot of art is.
Don't see a problem.
But user there is christian rock and christian metal.

So edgy!

I guess I will ignore now every single Christian church, the New Testament, the Old Testament, the Pope, the Neoconservative Evangelicals, the liberal Mainline Churches, race-mixing Orthodox, and only listen to you and your 8 online friends over at /christian/

Praise Yehovah!

So Europe should have 1 religion because we haven't done the requisite research into pagan options?

Truly nationalistic Death metal is not shitting up upon the faith of their ancestors even if their very fucking name is antagonistic polemic and blasphemous against Christianity.

video very related

But surely you need some way to record knowledge? Not one man can remember every piece of philosophy from Plato to De Maistre.

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What are you trying to prove with that question exactly? That you Christian so graciously allow dissenters to live, or what?

theres some good stuff in christianity and it did a lot for the west and muslims and jews have prophesies where christianity needs to be eradicated and thats their goal and all that but i want to believe we can believe without believing

I have to ask you faggots an honest question. If the religion is highly effective at instilling adaptive behavior into adherents then what is the fucking problem exactly?

Why not breed for a population with the desirable traits, and indoctrinate them to the desirable bebhaviors. Why not double down?

If we kill of leftist scum, destroy all repositories of leftist though, use germ-line engineering to ensure the traits never resurface due to new mutations, and indoctrinate them into a religion they truly believe in which makes maladaptive behavior unthinkable then who is that not the optimal solution?

Without a church there is no physical community to congregate. That creates subversion. They want the sheep to wander from the pack so they are easily devoured.

I want the sheep to form a pack, then grow carnivorous appetites and grow within that church.


I see no reason why paganism can't be reintroduced to the church.
It's symbolism, not idolatry.
Idolatry is a representation of what we actually believe exists as an entity. Pagan god symbols are just symbols and a bit of fun and culture. Go to a church and teach them pagan ways. Then you'll find the temples weren't destroyed, they were rebuilt.

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BEHEAD THOSE WHO INSULT YEHOVA, YESHUA, ABRAHAM, MOSES, OR ANY OTHER OF OUR TRUE EUROPEAN HOLY SPIRITS OR PEOPLE
WE MUST DEFEND OUR MIDDLE EASTERN SALVATION AGAINST THE TREASONOUS EUROPEAN PAGANS
WE ARE THE REAL EUROPEANS
WE ARE THE REAL JEWS
WE HATE ALL JEWS
WE ARE THE CHRISTIANS!

like that's a bad thing.

well, it is in the case of christianity, because it has stupid memes, like loving your enemy, and turning the other cheek. but paganism has good memes.

Atheism is what weakened Europe into it's current state. It's the secular states like sweden and germany that have culminated their idiocy into this destitute road to oblivion.

Reading the other autistic posts of Christians vs Pagans is retarded.

The Pope is a Heretic, and therefore no longer head of the church

There is no way for Pagans to counter Islam, not by numbers, philosophy or sheer will.

You're both retards for cherry-picking cucks that both religions produce.

Instead we should point out the (((ones))) that are causing this divide between us.

I'll only post once, because this thread as devolved into the same state Europe is in; distrust, blame, division.

I'm disappoint.

Why not have poodles instead of wolve? It's an aesthetic issue. The goal is to nurture trees and unlock a natural beings abilities. Otherwise that's transhumanism almost.
I like all my annoying little devils, they need better bait, not bullets. If they were conditioned to be left then they can be conditioned to be right. They just need the right memes.

That's so nondescript.


I can deny that. Religion got us to where we are today. We need a revival of culture.

You have no clue what spirituality is if you really think it's just fun and symbolism. That's all Christianity ever was.

Even if death metal is full of frustration and lamentation it is still better than nigger and pop music, which does not promote thought or higher consciousness. It's extremely dumb, obsessed with degeneracy and hedonism.


It's much easier to subvert people through institutions, though. Look at churches and schools now. Leftists indoctrination centers. Very dangerous. Imagine wandering from the pack, now….. well look, you're on Holla Forums.

Assuming that "research" instead of cultural continuity is enough to unironically revive a religion I am pessimistic on whether there's enough salvageable material on the subject to make good of it. Germanic Sagas were mostly focused on heroic narratives and the most useful religious context derived from it were divine genealogies and basic cosmological myths but not much about religious practices, Druidism and its oral traditions were even more fucked centuries before Christianity reached their region.

Pretty sure no one in this thread is atheist, lad.

I said it was a good thing user. You clearly didn't get the picture.
I don't like absolutes. We need to teach flexibility and pragmatism. We need to teach them to train themselves, i don't like the blind leading the blind.

see and

Oh, yeah, it totally wasn't the allies beating CHRISTIAN (wink wink, ;^) ) Germany, fabricating the holocaust, establishing the jewish ethnostate, occupying germany, controlling media, slicing up the lands and co. that gave way to all this arm twisting the jews are doing now.

IT WAS THE ATHEIST SATAN PAGANS!
If only they worshipped yahweh! Then we'd be safe!

By the way, Trump will totally fight the sanctuary churches and stuff. Damn traitors.
BUTCHRISTIANITY HAS NO PROBLEMS ITS ALL FAKE OKAY ITS NOT REAL.

Why do we even need a religion to conquer islam? Why can't we just be ethno-nationalist and kick out the browns? Why must we worship the god of the jews to save ourselves?

Don't disagree at all. Epic Metal and Classic Hard Rock were my favorite genre(s) before I discovered anime/rap mashups.

I have developed and decimated a recipe for nerve gas on the chans since 2011, which I continue to refine. This isn't being edgy. You don't spend hundreds of hours of effort trying to be edgy on an image board.

pastebin.com/[removethis]TGzmYw7E

I honestly want every kike, saracen, nigger, and mud dead.

To be honest everybody in my area thinks like I do, even the normalfags. They all hate kikes and muds. God bless western PA.

Given that he is a Liberation Theology heretic that seems like a decidedly un-christian act.

oh boy, even the bible shits on Catholics, just look at the idol worshiping they commit and read the bible, you'd be impressed at how cancerous the Catholics are.

Unless we're combating the christian church, then we have to say that it stays and really, it's basically paganism anyway.

;^)

It's going to be used simply to divide and conquer. Not reevaluate religious memes. It needs a church at least.
I want to kill myself for thinking about that crappy metal.
It needs to be darker. They seem to only scrape the tip of the iceburg.

You don't know what a Strawman is.
fun thread guys

That's so jewy.

You wouldn't let niggers into your house, why do you let them into your head?

Oh look, an autist.

I'm trying to wake christians up.
I'm just an arbitrating architect.

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you're right, i didn't realize "fucking retarded" meant "good".

Exactly and fukken saved. Was looking up for this.

It all started ironically…

Gaytheist has no value, therefore promotes feminism and other cancerous movement, of course they weakened europe, even your pagancuck leader Varg confirms this.

learn how to do your research, pagancuck.

Can't explore a cave without a torch.
Well it does now, because most people are christian. It takes too much effort to destroy and replace it. It needs reformation.
Probably. :^)

Guess it's time to use that European creativity and allow new rights and rituals to evolve from the seeds we have of the old.

NO WIGGLE ROOM FOR SEMITISM
EVERY BIT OF GIVE IS A CRACK INTO WHICH THE SEMITISM SEEPS
CHRISTIANITY IS AS ESSENTIAL TO EUROPE AS TITS ARE TO A BULL

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Cool persecution kvetching, mate.

Well, a lot of people are degenerates, which cannot be changed. Since they worship consumerism, hedonism and homosexuality like a new religion.

And since, as you say, religions cannot be replaced or changed (you say we cannot just remove Christianity)
That means that we can, at most, reform degeneracy.

What a disheartening prospect.

I'M TOTALLY AN AAAAAAAAAAAYYTHEIST

We are laughing at you christcucks really. Your latching onto a semitic cult as if it was the whole of what it means to be European since you grew up in mystery meat America and wish you had some attachment to your homelands so you try to adopt the one thing you have in common.

I learned it from Yeshua being hated by moneychangers.
I told you I'll learn all about being ((( christian ))).

This could only work in the short term. There are plenty of Christians who'd be more than willing to burn all the pagans again once things settle down. They still have that jewish mind virus.

When you're running out of room you must think drastically. Plus birds that fly on their own tend to run into trucks, windmills, windows and other things it does not understand. If you can teach it to avoid those obstacles - then teach it.

Daily Reminder that europe has a Fag god to worship, where the father of this god had a son that fucked horses and the other got sodomized for losing his hammer to an ice giant, reminder that odin himself strives for male semen after a battle and would drink the sperm of every dead man in the battlefield to replenish his power.

Thank you. Just like the Bible, I cherish a good jewish read.

David F. Greenberg is my favorite author, outside of Yahweh, who wrote the bible.

Daily reminder Jesus was a kike and he was a cuckold baby for Joseph to raise so your entire religion is based on Jewish cuckolding KEK

Pagancucks from /asatru/ are so asshurt in trying to defend their relevance on this board that they failed the most common language used by white people

Your and You're are two separate things, failing to realize the difference makes you a failure and your opinion obsolete.

>>>/asatru/

Holy shit you christcucks are getting desperate!

OY VEY!

It's okay. I don't fault you for it.

Christians have no sense of spirituality either, otherwise they'd still be unsubverted and teaching better methods.

True spirituality is the red pill. They can't handle the truth. Try as we might to teach them they simply misinterpret it constantly.
Science is the true religion, but it hasn't obtained a spiritual sense yet. It's shown us what we are, but most scientists can only see the microscopic. They fail to connect past mythical interpretations to it.

That's why all religions need reform. It's going blind.

I'd respond to these if they offered any good arguments, but they really don't. I doubt any of you even read the shit I posted.

Go read Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn - 200 Years Together. Then come back.

I'm abandoning this thread like you've all abandoned Europe, good luck fighting the invaders in the street when you're shriveled balls haven't produced a sire.

thats a nice viking name for some kike that wrote your entire fag religion in runes.

To be honest I have more hope over Kekism and Ebolaism than traditional volkish pagan revival since at this point the earlier seem more organic and based on thaumaturgy, revelations and vivid spontaneous make-believe ritualistics, all of which are important elements of genuine spiritualism.

I disagree with Varg "Extra-crispy** Vikernes' edgyness but I admit he might be vindicated if we somehow manage to push White identity's core back to rural self-sufficiency instead of online shitposting and consequently rediscover the ways of our ancestors, it just doesn't seem extremely likely to happen given the extent of urbanism even in White Nationalist circles.

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And you still don't know what a strawman is…

You sure showed us.

By the way. How is it possible that Yahweh (man, I still can't get over how european that name is) created man in his image, and then woman from the image of man.

Does that mean Yahweh is a hermaphrodite?

Well that's because the teachers became apathetic and refused to look at the "forbidden works".
Try and give them mein kampf, i dare you.

Christianity.

I'll learn about your
real version of christianity
eventually.
Then I will truly see how beneficial it is for Europeans to worship the middle east.

Wew, orthodox faggots prosletyzing

wow what a vomit worthy image.

Sanctuary churches do not see the bigger picture. They need macroscopic explanation, but people are too stupid or pussy to explain it.
Trump is not enough either.

harder than muslims

huh

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0.04 bootleg runes have been added to your asatru bank account.

Exactly.
It's survival user. Deal with it.

I think you equated Islam to Christianity so many times in your mind that you actually believe that.

Fuck's sake we even vocally advocate bogging of TRSodomite "allies" when it comes' to the board's consensus but I haven't even seen a single poster advocating anything more drastic than mockery for actual Pagans/Asatruists.

Dumbass even if everybody was christian or "pagan" what ever that means in this hypothetical case and even held the exact same beliefs in the same dogmatic faction they'd still kill each other for land, kin, and coin. That is how it is has been since time immemorial, that is how it will be. The only reason that war isn't happening now is because nukes make it so that war is hard to win without incurring loses and because the current political order forbids war for profit. If the current system broke down, as it must have if a white uprising happened and they destroyed the mud races, then war would happen when it was convenient and profitable(in more the kike material sense of the word).

Do you support a warrior culture or not? What precisely are your values? Lets say we had a "hothouse" style system like that of 16th to 18th century Europe in which armies of purely professional or mercenary soldiers fought battles for territory but conscription did not occur and the civilians didn't suffer depredation. Who that be a problem? Or lets say we went about to 19th century nationalist wars for survival. Would that not being to your liking?

Do you have an ideal system which is practical or are you merely bitching, because the idea that peace will ever last is laughable unless MAD is strictly enforced by extensive nuclear arsenals which would be nearly impossible for small states or even blocs of states in the face of improving technology for ICBM interception. Only the largest military alliances or empires could afford the arsenal of tens of thousands of warheads and delivery systems necessary for MAD.

I am not proud of it okay, maybe a little.

Thank you.
If I save up enough then I can pay a mohel to vampirize my foreskin and turn me into a REAL European believer.

And NO, just because Yahweh likes it when a man takes the hood of his penis so it can be seen better, it doesn't mean Yahweh is gay, okay?

What we really need is the 2nd coming of christ. Any good actors among us?

As a matter of fact I've never heard any European saying that name other than when referring to some creepy door-knocking cult.

Birds don't climb ladders, they learn to fly.

Real men listen to anime/death metal mashups.

At least for the time-being we should definitely redirect that culture outwards. We don't need more (((WW1)))s.

Well, the church is currently holding mass auditions from millions of middle eastern prospects.
I'm sure one of them will be the next Yeshua, or something similar.

Yeah, just like Wotanists.
Don't they know that that's different from Odin?

But since this is the fourth time or so.
I'll be frank this time.

Jehova, Yahweh, Yeshua, Jesus, it doesn't matter at all WHAT you call them, they're fucking SANDNIGGERS.

Real men give a link.

tracingthetribe.blogspot.com.br/2006/10/jewish-vikings-dna-mystery.html

What's the funniest part about your retardery is that all Europeans use the same Aryan etymological root for the name of God out of which "Odin" also drives.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyeus

Kekism and Ebolaism are products of the European spirit and its creativity. We have cultural seeds. We have souls that are barren from the void left by the desert ideology that swept over Europe. We go from there. What thrives will thrive and what doesn't won't. Good things become traditions because they are good. Bad things die. Christianity is dying because it is bad for Europeans. It doesn't fit them. The only way it did fit was when it absorbed local customs and was adapted to the specific European tribe.

Look at where we are right now in terms of boomers. The young can't grow because the old are sucking up more and more resources to slow their decay. We have old ideas that refuse to die and take up space in the minds of people where new ideas could grow. Not all ideas will be good, but that's what pruning is for. Truth and honesty are what we use to prune ideas. A lot of people arguing for Christianity in this thread refuse to acknowledge arguments honestly and truthfully. That's how you can tell when you have a bad idea.


Everything with time. The first step is to plant the seeds.

You know where else the tribe can be traced to?
Stretch out your arm.
Twist your hand so the inside of the palm faces up.
now point with your index finger.
Next, flex your arm as if you're curling a dumbbell, while your finger is still stretched out and your palm still faces upwards.

Congratulations.
You successfully traced the tribe.

No shit.
But that doesn't magically make the bible and its god anything but middle eastern.

It's just translated into European.

You remain a worshipper of a jew god.

To be fair one of the reasons Christianity caught up so good with Europeans is because we are the only species that demonstrates altruism towards lower lifeforms.

africaresource.com/rasta/articles/the-ancient-celts-and-vikings-were-black-people-by-dr-clyde-winters/

How is it survival if you give your enemy a centralized target to attack?

Are you going to tell me that verses from an untranslated book is more important to the European psyche than Christmas aka Saturnalia aka Winter Solstice?

I'm so thankful semites destroyed my culture and then later came to tell me how degenerate it was and that I should worship their messiah of weakness.

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amazon.com/TRUE-MYTH-BLACK-VIKINGS-THEMIDDLE/dp/1466960035

heathens; the perfect platform for faggots ;^)

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And, to be honest.
you have me beat there.
Because Christianity is so fucking boring that there is NOTHING to post, except perhaps bibleman, or some shit like that

If I wrote a comic book about how Abraham's children were actually adopted transsexual niggers do you think the jews would accept that they was kangz?

And it was molded to specific European tribes with specific focuses. That's why every racial/ethnic group varies in their interpretations and practices. Don't want to go fedora but Christianity really is an a la carte religion where you can pick what you want and still believe you have the truth. That's why it's a universalizing religion and why it is so dangerous.


What are you doing?

I thought you were a Yeshua believer, do I need to kill you for disagreeing with me? I hope you know that I'm doing this because I love you and because Yeshua is a god of love

i went to half/pol/ the other day, and there was this brazilian there with a massive hateboner for vikings. was that you, or are all brazilian niggers this envious of the glorious nords?

What the fuck does that have anything to do with what I said? Offline, Christian hate just about anything that isn't Christian, and equate anything non-Christian with their devil. Jewish paranoia. Do you actually think many Christians (who aren't complete pacifists) would actually want to help those they think are of the devil? The world really is that black and white in most Christians' eyes.

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Don't worry.
I'm an honest to gott (that's old germanic for yahweh, by the way) believer of rabbi Yeshua.
I am European, after all.
I wouldn't want to larp as a jew and claim I'm some sort of Odinist, or something.
Do I look like a nigger or something?
Damn those black vikings.
I will NEVER let them force their beliefs on me.
Jehova is my only one.
AND Yeshua.
But they're the same, so it's ONE.
Fucking POLYHEISTIC HEATHENS. Scum!

Is Christianity cucked or intolerant, make up your mind, Schlomo.

or maybe you have never used a vpn in your life.

shit nigger, what are you doing not staying behind 7 proxies?

That's the blackest jew I've ever seen.
Damn those black vikings yet again!

WHY DO THEY KEEP INTERFERING WITH MY WORSHIP OF ABRAHAMIC ORIGINS FROM THE MIDDLE EAST?!
WE WUZ REAL ISREALITES

what are YOU doing?

I was about to burn you at the stake there like I did Hypatia and other mathematicians in the past. Praise yeshua you saw the light in time though.

I am one of you christians, what are you talking about? I must divert all my attention to repelling the threat of the revival of paganism and definitely not the plague of mohameds raping my countrywomen. They were probably whores anyway if I measure them based on my biblical yard stick. Fucking sluts I don't care about a single one of them. God I am so glad not to be a heathen.

Maybe LaVeyan roots of the mainstream (((Pagan))) movements have something to do with it?

Personally never saw a Christian equating or comparing Buddhism or Hinduism with Satanism.

Help us, Son of Yehovah!

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Christians cannot defend the universality of their religion.
There is no moral reasoning from the bible to not accept "christians" of other races. There is no defense against multiculturalism because under their god we are all equals.
It is more moral for a christian to live among christian niggers than non-christian whites of his own race. It is more moral for a white christian woman to marry a godly nigger than an agnostic white.
This is why christianity cannot work in a desperate time like this, and will always be a weak point in European societies if it continues to exist there. There is no defending this. Christianity is an unworkable moral framework for Europeans no matter how many times you reform it. It still retains it's rotten and weak core.

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Still doesn't explain why you're using jewish propaganda to attack Europeans and uplift your Semitic religion.
Stay ass blasted.

Fucking a dog is probably more moral than fucking an agnostic intellectual wimp.

Oh so we've been arguing with a common cuckold the whole time LMAO

You seem to have bestiality on the brain a lot you digusting spic

Yeah, again. Impossible.

Especially without any meme magic being cast by millions come Dec25.


Christmas as it is celebrated in the west is the pagan holiday of "Yule" which Christians "adopted", to put it lightly, when it spread through Europe.
Nothing in Christmas is related to jesus or semitism.
Red and white is blood on the snow, because pagans used to hang up animal sacrifices to trees.
Pine tree is an evergreen, evergreens stay green even in the darkest, longest and coldest winter. Putting one up is a symbol of life persevering.
Lights on the tree is a symbol for the rays of sun, twinkling through the gaps in the pine needles on the next morning after the longest night of the year (solstice).
Christmas ornaments (the round balls) are either symbols for animal sacrifice again, if they are red baubles, or the sun, if they are golden. Green for life, again.
A star on top of the tree (although christianity substituted that with an angel) symbolizes the duty of humans to strive toward enlightenment.
(In pagan folklore, the first humans were trees in which Odin breathed life, therefore the "christmas" tree also represents us humans.)
Mistletoe was used by Loki to kill Baldur, Freyas son. Baldur was said to be immortal because "every poisonous plant, every animal, every weapon in the world swore to never harm Baldur.
The mistletoe was the only plant to not swear to never harm Baldur. Loki tricked Hodr, Baldurs blind brother to stab him with a spear tipped with mistletoe (mistletoe is poisonous).
This killed the otherwise invulnerable god and Freya swore that mistoletoe shall never be used as a weapon again, dispensing kisses to whoever near it, instead.
The yule log (which some Christians still use) in the fireplace is an offering to the sun, the heat, the fire was said to strengthen the sun as it was the weakest on solstice (the longest night of the year).
By giving the sun strength, it would rise again in the morning, reborn again, dispelling the night and growing stronger throughout the year henceforth (until the next winter).

Living in the cold north of Europe, the sun was very important, and yule was a celebration for it.

Christianity came later, via Greece and spread over the lands. However, since paganism was around for thousands of years before that, they had trouble converting everyone, no matter how many people the Christians killed, no matter how many they tortured, no matter how many pagan temples they desecrated and built churches upon.
So, they had to adopt Pagan aspects for people to accept it.

Even "Santa Claus" is pagan. Eight reindeer? That's no coincidence. Odins horse, sleipnir has eight legs.
Santa is Odin disguised as a shaman. He goes into the chimneys to leave toys shaped like animals, usually reindeer, to appease the spirits of the animals which the humans hunted and killed through the year, and reminded people to keep a respectful relationship with the animals.
Never to kill them needlessly and only ever taking natural resources, like their bones, their hide, their flesh. Never to trap their spirits or corrupt them.

And so forth. Western Christmas is Yule, Yule is a sun celebration, nothing of it, except putting a manger in some nativity scene, has anything to do with christianity or jesus. At all.

And there it is. Christians want your daughters to marry niggers. You need to get a one way ticket to Israel and never come back. Maybe your fellow semetic brothers will appreciate your advocacy for nigger loving.

Meanwhile at well defended religion clearly invulnerable towards hijack.

I mean, just look at this.
It's like I'm in fucking BETHLEHEM, or something.
Or a church.

Yahweh totally doesn't look down on millions of christians, asking himself what the fuck they are doing.
Ah, right, that changes EVERYTHING.

try telling that to a male boomer.

Christianity died because it's retarded.


You said it yourself. Conservatism means

Come on. Now you're using images from the same shitty film. At least try a little harder.

Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf
Ausgabe 1943
1. Band
Seite 292
Decadence result of a lack of a firm Weltanschauung/Religion

Seite 292/293
State of religion, indifferent Christians are worse than Atheists, Christian mission no success against growing Mohammedanism, lack of Christian mission in Europe, worrying attacks on the dogmatic base of the church

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No subsitute for Christian religion, religious dogma necessary for moral sound religion, attack against religious dogma similar to attack on the base of state, alternative is just religious nihilism and anarchy

And you reposted ((( David F. Greenbergs ))) excerpt again, too.

I'm so pro Christian right now, I'm shitting teen pregnancies and putting a potato peeler to my penis.

I proved my point, you avoided them because you're asshurt.

Well, without your foreskin, it really stood out.
Praise Yeshua!

White christians go out of their way to spread the word of christ to 3rd world subhumans.
White christians believe that every human is equal under god. The bible codifies this.
White christians support israel and multiculturalism.
The jews will always try and tarnish everything that is white. Of course they will shit on our ancient gods.

Face it, you adopted a religion of another foreign race that advocates egalitarianism and multiculturalism. There is no defending this. Either become a pagan or an agnostic, a fucking shintoist even, I don't care, but you need to rid yourself of the god of the kikes.

Great post! The only positive Christian thing that is actually related to Christmas would be a small number of religious-themed carols. That's about it.

Everything else that they try to force Christianity into, like light-up images of Mary and Joseph and the manger, pretty much suck. The stuff that makes Christmas as holiday special have nothing to do with any of that.

Your point was made using screen caps from the same shitty film from Kikewood, and showing that niggers want so bad to be something other than niggers that they'll go so far as to pretend they we Vikangz?

What was you point again?

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Indeed.
And, awesome, more of that girl.

And, unless it's Lutheran (who actually sing about the manger and shit) it's just more pagan stuff about the snow and animals.
Or, in other words. They can't even think of actual christian, hymns, most of the time.

you're not helping your cause, in fact everyone is focused on hitler shitting on LARPfag neopagans then to read your epic meme that sure showed me :^)

Have you drunk too much yeshua blood?
See

This sounds like you dwell more on being a psychopath than being a warrior.


The Albigensian Crusade killed from 200,000 to 1,000,000 people in Southern France. Learn to history.

The Crusades themselves had nothing to do with protecting Europe, but with claiming a shitty piece of land in the Levant that was sacred to them.

Europe would have been far better off if the Crusades never happened and the Byzantines simply continued to use paid mercenaries.

And what would happen if I did? He'd congratulate me on how tolerant I am?
reminder christians want your daughters to marry niggers

If there is a God and Jesus Christ, they have to be absolutely fucking confused as to what the fuck this guy is doing to the Catholic Church.

Guys don't be racist, Yeshua would nOT like that. Remember we are all one in christ jesus. Anyone who is being racist will be reported.

nobody cares about your opinions on religion in europe, you brazilian mut.

Tolerating white extermination so that more christcucks of the subhuman variety can take over?
quantity>quality.

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So what do you think should be done on any of those issues?

Nationalism went out of their way to spread nationalism in third world countries as well

*Cucks believe that "every human is equal under God" except that its For God not Under, secondly its not equal, its entitlement to the promise, equal is referenced for the same title of what you receive, not what you are, its retarded to assume that everyone is equal, and if they were equal the tribes in the old testament wouldn't split because everyone would be circlejerking and accepting each other.

Because modern church with established pastors have to go through a course of theology, which takes place in universities, which is also owned by jews.

And by the time it does gain relevance and because the people who follow it is white, it will grow organizations just like theology courses to teach your heathen priests to manage his followers and the people responsible for leading such an organization will be jewish, guaranteed, this just proves that no religion can be well protected.


jews could care less of bad religion with barely any followers, its a waste of resource, and they don't care about non-white religion either, they only focus on their target, white people and their faith on whatever, even if christianity had a kike in it, that kike hated itself and had antisemitic principals, doesn't sound settling for the modern jew to let this pass at ease? since its a massive religion its best to just control it like they always do then to just destroy it, but in reality they are doing both, controlling it to prevent a shoah and slowly destroying it by being parasitic and getting the religion to suck foreign cock and accept gays and other degeneracy, the mentality of a male boomer is different then the average gay christian you see protesting with feminists, they are cucks.

You can't get rid of the pope because there is nothing un-christian about what he advocates.
There is no moral argument to be made here. Christianity needs to be removed.

And why the FUCK should we "fix" a kike religion instead of creating a religion BY and FOR Europeans? Because you have an obsession with christ? I'd rather have no religion than attempt to fix this semetic garbage for the thousandth time. It will not work.

You fucking newfag retards

What is D&C? Disagreement?

Have a source for that? No, of course you don't.


To put that in perspective, that's about 20% of the four year universities in the United States:


reference.com/education/many-colleges-271707a9c6bd6590

Divide and conquer.

Have you read the sticky at all?

Well this Pope has little authority left with Catholics either way.

Don't lose fight of your true aim, Holla Forums.

I mean what do you define as D&C? Seems like people are just arguing bitterly, as it always is, about important spiritual topics. I don't see what's D&C unless you think the answer has already been figured out. If the answer is already figured out then you wouldn't mind helping us understand this answer.

So user, what do you think?

No, Jesus spoke well of Jews, but hated the Pharisees, a sect that he was in opposition to.

Revelation 3:9

Of course I don't have a source, but why do you think churches are becoming more trendy and way less aggressive all of a sudden?

and most proddie churches, heck even catholic churches attend theology, who do you runs theology? its worth a research.

Jesus came for the jews, jews rejected him.

Don't forget Vicar of Christ has the burden of being Charismatic to Catholics and not just the other way around.

think*

Before we continue, can we see a pic of your hand? I'm starting to think you're a hue. Just timestamp a pic of your hand.

Reminder that jews refer to christendom as Esau. Do you know what is written in the Bible about Esau?

Jesus came for a congregation of twelve tribes that united near the levant and that would name themselves as Hebrews. That's what the Hebrews thought. When they saw Jesus said people outside Hebrews were of importance aswell, they colluded with Roman occupiers to give him Death Penalty.

300 years after with the Talmud does the Jew begin. Before that it's a Hebrew.

Fucking Globalists messing with Bible translations

Aren't they niggers lmao?

you mean the brother of jacob?

He thinks that semetic gods are white somehow and to question the adoption of jewish subversive religion is a sin.

Christians have always tolerated and abetted jews and jewish interest. Why is it that christians will kill their pegan European brothers but allow jews to run amok in their countries and control their finance? Jews have always had their own ethnic enclaves in christian societies and were never removed. Not the same for pagans. The Romans were not christian and yet they holocausted the kikes. When has there been a strong christian man who stood up against the kikes? When is the last time they were murdered/expelled? You could say Hitler, but he was hardly christian and was hardly successful.

Yes. And Jacob is Israel.

ey mang, what bible do you read?

Inquisition not enough? Want more?

Catholic version translated directly from Koine Greek and Aramaic/Hebrew.

This should be interesting. Are they another HWNDindU pretending to be white?

isn't there also an antagonizing word for the name jacob as well? something to do with stealing.

The Inquisition mostly patrolled Jews who were forced to convert to Christianity to make sure they weren't privately practicing Judaism. It didn't drive the Jews out like secular governments throughout Europe did.

IOW, the Inquisition meant nothing. Most Jews today aren't at all religious, but they are tribal and nepotistic.

No jews took over control of key power positions when Inquisition was around.

But just Inquisition wasn't enough for you? More is needed?

Oh yeah such a hard time for the kikes. They just became cryptos or infected other European countries.

The "answer" you're looking for doesn't need to be figured out because it's a pointless opinion, the answer is to put religious infighting aside and focus on getting rid of kikes together, then you can proceed to waste time arguing again


Prime example of strawman in order to achieve D&C.

Burning rebellious Jews alive as a public spectacle is not enough for you?

Pope Francis needs to be killed by a member of his church. This literal communist faggot is doing damage that cannot be undone. The Catholic Church is dead if he gets any more time on this earth.

Jacob sort of stole Esau's birthright, or Esau sold it to Jacob, but if I remember it right, their mother also received prophecy when she was pregnant with them that Jacob will get it something like that.

Jacob got Esau's blessing and Esau got told that he'll live by the sword and will serve Jacob.

So that means for the Jews, christendom serves and is soldier for Israel.

No. They all have to go. not just the "bad" ones. This behavior makes them more insidious.
Let's not also forget just how well the christians helped convert towelheads of spain. Did a real service to the spanish gene pool, they did.

Christianity is part of the enemy, it is not some academic discussion.

I wonder if that's what they're meming with the Israel worshipping christian zionist sects, or just coincidence.

Checking those digits, first.

In terms of the cuck pope, it's more a matter of figuring out how to get a more hardline Catholic who will put an end to this bowing before Heathens crap and tolerating all manner of moral degeneracy. Vid semi related How we'd go about that is ultimately dependent upon the political process of the Vatican.

I don't think I need to drag up that picture of all the folks who were commie, race mixing, "equality" advocates who have rather high positions in many of the Pagan organizations, in the US at least. If we're going to advocate for a Pagan revival, it needs to start with a Pagan Church that isn't infested with Leftist garbage approved by your local Rabbi.

If it's to get fixed, it starts with Christians on Holla Forums and elsewhere rejecting the Kosher version of us being "Equal" under Jesus. No Rabbi, the verses talking about how we're all one in Christ don't mean the Niggers of Africa are equal to you and therefore should be treated the same way. All it means is everyone falls short of God's glory and that we're going to be judged on equal terms at the time of reckoning. Handing over your country to people who clearly can't even maintain it, let alone build upon it, would be like giving a child a million dollars to do something and not expecting them to blow it on stupid things in this analogy.

That's just some ideas off the top of my head. The bottom line is that infighting with each other over stuff that is pedantic in the overall picture like:
Is counter productive in the all important goal of securing a future for white people. What religion they follow should be of little importance so long as they grasp that we need to prevent our people from dying out due to Kikery on an international scale.


I'm onto you, Moshie.>>9299466

Nice job cherry picking an over spiritualizing a verse schlomo

Good taste my friend.

Hitler says any religion needs dogma and those defending it, otherwise it would just be a metaphysical idea, a philosophical opinion. See page 293 of Mein Kampf 1943 edition.

Hitler said there is no alternative to current (Christian) faiths, same page.

Hitler said larping as a pagan/non standard domination faith is decadent endangering of the state.



Hitler did defend the Inquisition, their fight to uphold dogma.

BTW you should buy yourself a history book and learn, 1.) most Germanic tribes converted voluntarily to Christianity, 2.) during the crusades Europe was already complete Christian*

*except for some very primitive people in the far north-east

He is Marxist

Yes, the Turks conquered them because the Greeks are a backstabbing treasonous lot.

One of the first thing US occupation force in Germany (and Japan) did was instal “religious freedom”, basically giving freehand to every crazy sect from the USA.

Spanish Inquisition was really shitty for everyone yes I agree with that.

But can't tell if you're being satirical or honest because of Poe's Law. Could you stand seeing people burned alive in front of you?

I'm kinda late with this but:
CHRISTCUCKS ETERNALLY BTFO HOLY SHIT HOW WILL THEY EVEN RECOVER AHAHAHAHHA FILTHY KIKES

I didn't claim the opposite. Rome did an effort to convert Visigoths and the Franks to Christianity and suceeded. King Clovis conversion to Christianism has a special symbol.


This makes no sense because:
1) Inquisition would hunt protestants if given chance. Germany had many protestants and such would hurt german nationalism.
2) Hitler ties with Thule Society.
3) Inquisition was abolished as an institution in the XIX century.

Obvious D&C shilling continues
What's the point of posting this except for the explicit purpose to D&C. It's like you don't understand that nothing is impervious to Jewish subversion. No such religion exists

Yeah, you're late leftypol

Example in the webm thread


No religion is impervious to subversion

Beautiful Summary user

Christians have churches, yet they're still degenerates. Explain why centralization is better at preventing degeneracy rather that small groups living and creating lifestyles that work best for them?

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