Y-you guys wouldn't do this r-right?

y-you guys wouldn't do this r-right?

Socdems are proto-fascist so what would you expect? Social Democracy is code word for maintaining the status quo and destroying all revolutionary potentional.

No. We are just the last front that stands to stop neoliberal horror becoming reality. Albeit our ranks are filled with traitors who deserve to be purged, but I think that Corbyn`s supporters are showing us the way in this regard.

doesn't proto just mean shares vague similarities?

Only if you implement post-keynesian economics tho you gosh darn statist grrr! *breaks the window of small time business*

Can you please take your ultra-radical memery back to the early 30's

You're just an idiot.
Nobody is going to join your revolution so long as they believe that voting has the potential to work. You should support socdems, not out of a sincere belief that they can fix everything, but because you need to prove to the people that voting doesn't work and the system is undemocratic. Accept this or continue LARPing - it's your choice.

Pre-proto-X-post
So yes. they share more than pre-conditions but less than post- conditions.

Shouldnt we allready have come to this conclusion after about 200 years of representative democracy especially after the post 50's where most soc dems where in controle.

There is nothing without the state.

It's hard to convince people they don't live in a democracy when the entire "education" system and every major media outlet are all just spreading propaganda claiming the opposite.

If you can think of a better way to do it, go ahead, but just telling people to sit down and do nothing is pure counterrevolutionary bullshit.

We never had an super-majority or majority in most cases, stop talking shit.

Why not just put everything under western civilisation while you are at it lefty/pol/.


Go read some history fam.


Thats voting tho.

Who is to say it was unironic.

So you admit to being ineffective in everything but sliding potential radicals to the center and using leftist rhetoric to get careers in politics. Why should anyone listen to reformists?

Just fuck off already.
You have contributed NOTHING to this discussion. You've just told people that they shouldn't do things. You haven't offered a single constructive suggestion of what people can do, even when explicitly asked for one.

You are the most counterrevolutionary scum in this thread.

What? Without SocDems there would be no 8-hour day, minimum wage nor any social safety net.

If this is meant to be serious I think I'm just going to end myself right now.

You know, the worst part of leftypol are the anons who claim to be the most radical far-leftists while shitting on every productive discussion and getting into pissing contests over who can do the least to further leftism while accusing everyone who's actually trying to do anything of being a filthy centrist.

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Calm down underwear twister, if you want to maintain the system of capitalism and just fix the symptoms of it then fine. Go ahead and vote labour and hope it gets you somewhere improving your work and giving you a nice pension after 65 of labouring.

If you want to improve conditions then go ahead, if you want to abolish capitalism then reformism will not be a wise choice.

Reformism will lead to collapse of capitalism. Anyone with brains can see that.

Are you fucking serious? Those are all due to radical workers movements. Reforms were granted as concessions to labor in an attempt to preserve capitalism. If their responsible for anything it's preventing a workers revolution.

What are you doing?

Yes, but those strikes that lead to radicalization where organized by socdems thus it was due to our graze and agency.

No. They were organized by anarchists and socialists. You fucks infiltrated and used it to gain careers as politicians.

Only thing that radical left has done is dug mass graves for 120 million.

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Fuck off liberal

Not even "left" liberal arguments that's straight up righty 50's red scare bullshit

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I thought I'd come over to Holla Forums to see what all the jokes were about - because there's absolutely no way that they can possibly be that fucking retarde-

Was originally linked to , but honestly, this is tragic.

Why are you reading clickbait from a clearly shitty paper?

You do realise that you're not getting any more informed?

Read the bloody Morning Star instead if you want to see in depth economic and class struggle analysis.

Literally go on their front page and it's nearly completely free from SJW, Idpol and celebrity garbage, albeit sports is still there.

They cover stories that other news outlets won't that actually matter to the working class.

Plus it's a cooperative too, become a member and support something worth reading.

You think WE'RE retarded? Check out plebbit.

1) stefan molcunt is not an anarchist

2) Kropotkin was a scientist

Have a look at the original italian facist manifesto.

It also contains an 8 hour work day and a minimum wage

As long as you women know your place our fine.

this is a fucking stupid meme and you know it.

i unironically like and support stalin and i know this is bullshit

This is the most fucking retarded thing I've EVER seen. Do you even know who any of these philosophers are? What about the opinions of those scientists? Does that art exult the state?

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why even live? ;_;

Nigger, you what?

Ehhhhhh. What?

TO THE GULAG BEEEEYATCH!

Is it bad if I have no preference between democratic socialism and revolutionary socialism? I completely agree that social democracy and demsoc done wrong can numb revolutionary sentiments but if your priority is support for cooperatives over private business and turning businesses into cooperatives.

And I know market socialism isn't perfect but don't kid yourselves into thinking anything else would work without a transitory period, which market socialism can be.

He was an accomplished Biologist tbh

He was a biologist. If you've read some of his work you'll have noticed that he talks about evolution.

Honestly, I just read The Conquest of Bread.

Well congratulations on actually reading a book, you're one step ahead of Muke.

But read more you nigga.

What, cuck a man with a hot milf teacher? Of course I would.

That would work out quite well, you would lose allmost nothing

how exactly is socdem proto-fascist when there's only been two cases in history of this happening?