Doom thread

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Knock yourself out.
Play through The Ultimate Doom on Ultra-Violence and report back when you're done.

Fugg.

This chart is outdated but the URL for the iwads is in the upper right corner.

ayy thanks

Here you go fam

I actually started playing through Doom for more or less the first time recently, got through the first three episodes on UV. E4M1 was way more difficult than everything else, got to go and try it again.

Any recommendations for changing the default settings in ZDoom for the Doom games? I turned off auto aim (why is this on by default?), changed crouch/jump/free look from default to off, turned the limit on pain elementals lost souls back on, turned off enemies not being able to see you with partial invisibility, and turned on wallrunning. Also changed the automap colors to traditional Doom and changed a ton of the control options.

You fags do realize that doom is free and libre, right? The game has been released under the GPL. Even before that, the shareware was given away for free (well, sort of, they gave it to markets for free with an msrp) because of a video game ban scare due to Columbine. You young fags are technically not pirating anything.

The best engine to play doom on is doomsday. Makesvit easy to handle mods too.

Disgusting.

Stop posting any time.

If you're using GZDOOM

I have no idea why you would want filters enabled by default, but there you go.

Not using GZDoom, but thanks.

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Apparently it's a thing with AMD-cards.

It makes the gameplay objectively worse, you little scamp.

The code is open but the materiel isn't. You're still technically expected to buy the game. That's why source mod publishers don't release the original wads.

Fucking GZDoom

What is pre exodus? Little hint: from early 2013 to 2014 no one from here had a reason to jump ship from cuckchan, because the team had its shit together. Hardly and without /a/ style widespread support from the userbase, but they did.

Brutal Doom is interesting for like one Playthrough. I switched to Ketchup, because I can use it with almost anything and get 80% what Brutal doom gives me. Wait for someone making a gore mod for vanilla doom enemies and Brutaldoom is obsolete on my end.

You forgot freedom, the libre alternative to iwads. Its assets are ugly as fuck though and no one uses it.

What's the best sourceport for DOOM that lets you play IWADs easily? I'm talking things like Pirate Doom or Lego DOOM

how does gore and sound effects that adds "juicyness" to the game makes the gameplay worse?

if you try to pinpoint those qualities then don't try to tell me that new doom is puddle of crap, because atleast it doesn't has any of that.

Brutal Doom is just a meme mod user

user, you're a fucking retard

Actually i would be fine with a change to the sound of the loud and annoying plasma gun.

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Here's your reply.

you can continue being buttblasted

faggots pls

They used to be ignored for the most part in these threads

I thought some of the AI changes like the cacodemon dodging or barons firing multiple shots at once were cool
also the sprites when barons or cyberdemon see you look pretty cool as well

WHEREVER THERE IS B8 I MUST REPLY

don't worry faggot, i am buttblasted that there's literally no horror wads for doom

Haven't played much, but I feel that Unloved is probably the best you can do in terms of horror wads. Any heavier and you really should be looking for a different engine.

I played Brutal Doom from the beginning to see what were the mods like, and since I liked it, I kept it. But I didn't know it changed the gameplay, I just played it because of the gore that added more satisfaction when killing enemies. Are there any other wads that adds gore ?

Who needs BD when Smooth Doom exists?

Just get Project Brutality. It's all the good things of Brutal Doom without all the bad things of Brutal Doom.
Or get Demonsteele so you can go cuhrazee like a little girl having an orgasm in a hentai doujin

Care to elaborate?

Holy sheet just tried Demonsteele, this thing's amazing

How come there's no r34 of the Demonsteele grills?

Yes, definitely. I finished both games for the first time last week, they were amazing. Despite their age, the games still manage to be completely unique.

Wow guys, you just need to stop whining, you only hate it cause of your stupid nostalgia glasses, pic very related.
:^)

Was this made as a joke?

I told you nigger
I told you about Demonsteele

Demonsteeles are too pure for porn

Probably. The new game just looks boring with flaws

It's an action-horror wad in the vein of They Hunger and stuff. Straight combat against spooky enemies in a spooky environment. It works to the doom engine's strengths, and works to the best within doom's limitations. You can do a lot within the doom engine, but if you try and ignore what it is you're using, things don't fucking work. Hunter's Moon is a Quake 3 mod that tries to work in the doom engine, and things work horribly. You try and make something like Silent Hill or House of the Dead within the engine's limitations, and things go horribly.

no

Fun fact: That artist's favorite game is Spec Ops: The Line.

Unfortunately no.
archive.is/txKJb
archive.is/GOlDn

The checklist forgot "is a good game"

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They can stop any time they please

i'm trying to control my anger by screaming internally.

Ok.

Explain to me the difference between Doom1 and Doom2.
Because visually they are the same fucking game.

Doom 2 is the sequel to Doom 1.

super shotgun
good new enemies
weaker levels

You're probably too young to appreciate it if you're under 25. It has aged extremely poorly compared to something like Quake.

This is inaccurate at best.

You can get a sourceport for Doom with fully modern controls and modern resolutions, I still can't find one for Quake.

I think it's aged better than Quake. More FPS games followed Quake's formula than Doom's, many people would consider it stale by today's standards.

Doom 2 adds a new weapon and new enemies. Most of them having some new mechanics with a few reskins/restats. Maps are a bit more varied too.

Regardless, it was more of an expansion pack than a full on sequel.

Quake engine aged even worse than Doom engine and Build Engine. Fuck you!

never played the original
I did now
feels good man

You are a faggot, i have over 20 hours on Russian Overkill to prove you wrong.

tfw i can't play doom because the old school 3d effects make me vomit

is there some other way I can try to play it? the false 3d effects really get to me

Grab a gun and fucking end it mate.

Yeah, it's called a lead injection into your skull.

Wrong, you are forced to sit through door opening animation etc.

Where are all these people coming from with facebook memes? Why do they all want to talk about doom?

Try Risen3D m8.

Try playing without mouselook. Raycasting engines are not very good at vertical look and that makes most people sick. Next step is replacing the bitmaps either with 3D models or voxels. Latter option aint finished though.

The ultima ratio is putting a cigarrete or lump of tobacco in water for a night, suck the liquid up next morning and then injecting it. Don't!

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The only correct points about new Doom in that image are

To be fair, some nigger memes are odder than others.

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I can do the same image with chess and checkers and I don't see people even thinking checkers are even near as good as chess.

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You are just playing his own game, you can't compare games like this. I already said it in another thread, if designing games was as simple as writing a bunch of sentences nobody would even need design documents.
I mean think about this, if you added a hitscan weapon in the original Doom that destroyed everything in one hit and used no ammo, the game would be pointless, and it is just a weapon addition. Any excellent game is a little change away from being the worst shit ever.

Jesus Christ the next time I see this faggot in a purple suit at a convention I'm going to fucking try to kill him barehanded.

Look in the news for some guy getting tasered and jailed after assaulting this faggot and screaming it's on phobos you fucking cocksucker.

Doomguy wasn't faceless.
In multiplayer everyone uses super shotgun and rifle because the other weapons are shit.

this is how i know you are nostalgic. you think the game is fucking perfect and completely glaze over the flaws. it is no doubt a better game than doom 4, but it still suffers from;

autoaiming
varying damage from weapons
unbalanced weapons in doom 2
multiplayer complete garbage in both games
coop is a clusterfuck don't even bother
half the secrets are extremely obscure without any hint except in the early levels of both games and reward players for spending 20 minutes pumping space on every wall (read boring as fuck)
enemies that teleport into a room leaving no room for learning position before it's too late (yes its in doom 4, and its still shit in doom 1 and 2)

You couldve made some good points but after seeing your first point I completely dropped your post

It's not really a big deal considering in modern ports you have free mouse look without autoaim. The fact that the game is still good with autoaim it's a little hint that the game wasn't really like a modern FPS but a super advanced asteroids game. The game is all about positioning, resource usage, and weapon choice, not aiming. That's a pretty big fucking difference that changes everything about how the game is designed and it is not mentioned in the picture.
This is the worst fucking offender by far, seriously. I don't know why they thought it was a good idea, probably Romero's retarded JRPG fanboyism.
Come on now, there is strategy involved in both scenarios. Although I may be biased by modern ports.
Some of those are pretty bad, E1M2 is one of the worst cases of this.
I agree somehow, it's a cheap way to kill a player, should be done properly when designing maps. (For example, make a common floor texture for teleporting enemies and showcase it first, only then expose it in more threating scenarios)

how can someone defend autoaiming? it works in doom, it is playable, but it would be better without it

unless you are a casual faggot who cant aim for shit

AHAHAH no, it's shit.

Use ZDoom, it's the best sourceport avaible nowadays.

NuDoom is fucking garbage, but that's an outright lie.
You see Doomguy's face tons of times throughout the original series.

Filtered that shit as soon it showed up on Steam.

It's always funny when people who haven't played Doom don't realize that your overall health is displayed by both numbers and a face.

That actually makes me angry.

Autoaim in Doom is a product of the time, and makes perfect sense in the original release of the game. Vertical autoaim was required for it to be playable with mouseturn only, and horizontal autoaim was for keyboard players.

i know its a product of the time, im saying its fucking shit

holy shit this guy's opinions are as lazy and unresearched as his art

what source port are you using? some of them remove the up-down look artifacting.

all the time.
it's in the bottom middle of the screen the entire game. guy never even looked at a Doom screenshot.

all sourceports by default turn off the awful hud, he probably completely forgot

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Welp, this proves my theory that people think that all there is to retro FPS is that you can hold a lot of weapons at once. This is why we're never gonna get a real revival of the genre, because casuals are too retarded to examine a game's design on anything deeper than the surface level.

What's your least favorite Doom level, Holla Forums? Mine is E2M6. It's a good concept, but I got really bored while playing it.

If you're talking about the first game, it's actually the final level.
I remember I killed the boss with a single BFG hit when I was like 8 and being pissed off that he was so easy.

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Oh it's from Cracked. No wonder the author's opinion is complete shit.

Let's see what ED has to say about this dumb fuck

Yep. Pretty much.

They can stop any time they please
The sooner the better.

While doom is great an all.

Are there any good mods for Hexen?
I tried out wrath of cronos. But I cant find anything else thats just as good if not better then that mod I played.

What a minute, I recognize this style…

THE WORDSMAN! Ha, you'll never get me to finish one of his comics!

Seriously though when the fuck did Rowtree turn into Quentin?

But it doesn't have to be a good short story if it's in comic format and if it's a short story worth of words you can't say it's a bad comic unless you read all of it and if you read all of it then how can you say it was bad if it captivated you to the end.

what the fuck are you two talking about

Autism

Autism

Yea okay.

What ?

You can look up and down in Doom, mate.

The thing I love about these pictures, is the author pretending journalists are 'hardcore superfans'

Why would they put it? Project Brutality is objectively better.

As far as mods specifically for Hexen:
Hexercise
Hexenhanced

There are a few mods that support Hexen out the box, like:
Trailblazer
Necrodoom
Psychic
Guncaster, IIRC, supports Hexen.

Hexen maps, though, are VERY hit n' miss. Wrath of Chronos is one of the better ones. Scourge of Viscerus is good too. But there are some fucking bad ones too.

I just played one that surprise-teleported you into a small arena where you had to fight the mage miniboss with his bullshit homing supermissiles. And the arena was lined with instagib teleport traps. And you can't use 'resurrect' in Hexen when gibbed.

Anyone wanna play some FFA on Zdaemon?
Gotta wash this shit out of my mouth.

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So dank, much meme. Wow.

This has got to be a troll. Lmao.

Kill yourself, human race is better off with one less person like you. The rest will be purchasing Doom 4 and going on reddit about how it stands up so well to the original and that anyone else who feels otherwise is ~*rosetinted nostalgia glasses~*.

the music pwns though

forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=51925

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Liberals amd fags on tumblr literally get off on eating shit. Lmao.

yes, but as always start with the latest one goy :^)

You know you can just… clean your ass, right?
Not saying I'd eat someone's ass, but I would certainly hope people fucking wash before they do it.

The fact that no one's made this yet is quite depressing. He'd make one hell of an awesome character for Doom. He could have various unique weapons abilities and shit which would aid him in his campaign:

There's probably more you could do, but that's what I could think of at the moment.

People mostly talk about gameplay mods in these threads, but what cosmetic mods do people use? The ones I use that I would recommend everyone at least try are smooth doom and pk doom sfx. The main thing smooth doom does is give enemies additional frames of animation, making their walking, death, and attack animations smoother. It has a lot of other options too, like giving possessed marines slightly varying appearances between each other, or giving weapons doom 64 skins. Pk doom sfx is basically a guy recreating the original doom sounds as close as possible but with higher sound quality.

DHTP and Beautiful doom are two I'm kind of torn on. Smooth doom does most of what I like about beautiful doom already, but has some nice extras, like HD pickups. DHTP does what you expect pretty decently, replacing wall textures with high res versions. Whether you like or hate these two probably depends on how fine you are with mixing low res and high res sprites and textures.

Particle Fire Enhancer does a lot of things I like, and a lot of things I hate. Despite its name, it changes a lot of little stuff besides fire particles. Oddly, what I like from it most are the new sounds, which are from doom 3 and quake 4. There are a couple little things I like too, like how it makes barrel explosions create debris. The bad is that it uses a lot of really garish colored lighting, and barrels emit green gas particles and hissing noises that are kind of distracting.

Right now, I'm looking for a decent high resolution font replacement, mainly to improve readability. I found one, but their choice of fonts is kind of ugly. Also, HD doom guy is kind of scary.

but annon, doomguy is Trump

bump

Only in the source ports. The original Doom doesn't allow looking up and down. Original has a mouse support that allows you to move with the mouse, look left and right, strafe, shoot, etc. But it won't let you look up and down since it's an engine limitation. It was over come in Heretic with a new hack and since the source code release people have made significant improvements to the Doom engine allowing the weirdest shit ever… "Room above room" to happen… in Doom…

Why does Holla Forums wad's description read like it was written by a faggot?

Corrections…

The Doom:

The yet another 2016 console shooter:

This came out recently, its pretty sweet tho the Revenant spam can be a pain

doomworld.com/vb/post/1605001

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If I remember right, I even got doom running on a second gen iPod nano.

Funnily enough, doom 1 and 2 play pretty ok on controllers. I think it's due to vertical

Accidentally posted when I meant to edit it. Anyways,

I think it was due to vertical auto aim. For whatever reason, playing fps games without being able to look up and down makes playing with a controller feel more natural.

I think hypothetically, a doom game with a good upgrade system could be made. For example, something built similarly to the doom rouge like arsenal mod. In it, you could convert weapons into other weapons by attaching the correct modules to it. These were more sidegrades than upgrades mostly. For example, a standard shotgun could be converted to an elephant gun, which shot slugs instead of pellets. The rocket launcher could be converted into the micro launcher, which fired much faster but did less damage per shot. To prevent it from breaking the flow of the game, a player could only mess with this between levels.

Alternately, it could maybe be done in the metroidvania way where you got items as you progress that fundamentally alter how weapons or other things work. The backpack in doom 1 and 2 is kind of like this. Sort of.

Is there a single person on earth who thinks quake's weapons are satisfying to use?

theres better ways to waste time

well this is the primary problem with brutal doom, you grab a meme mod then you have no idea how the original doom actually plays like

somehow this is a problem?

I have amazing idea about the new doom wad but i need to write a 500 word essay due to next month IT masters paper actually

wat do

Ketchup

yes

case in point: d44m

what does that have to do with playing a mod instead of the original?
play the original or dont but why should anyone give a fuck?

you should've ask 2 years ago anyone who modded and mapped for doom what happened when their mod or map wasn't BD compatible

which was hilarious, and apparently still is

A month ago I started playing doom for the first time using chocolate doom. After wanting to try multiplayer I switched to Zandronum. I ended up using it for the Episodes 3 & 4. I read in the charts that I should be using ZDoom.

What are the singleplayer benefits for switch from Zandronum to ZDoom?

I wanted to have a mostly vanilla experience but the things I liked about Zandronum were:
- High resolution 1920 x 1080 (Although I would like to play using a 4:3 aspect ratio for a more realistic FOV but Zandronum doesn't fully support this)
- Autosave between levels (I don't really like losing my entire inventory when I die. It makes all the work that goes into finding all the secrets feel pointless)
- Autorun (This feature may have been in chocolate doom I'm not sure)

I also turn off Freelook and Autoaim to give the game a more vanilla feel.

Are lost souls supposed to be transparent I don't remember them being that way in Chocolate doom?

A list of settings you guys change would also be greatly appreciated.

Mmmmm, every time this question is asked I smile a little.

I remember when someone was samefagging the question and wasn't even resetting their ID.

Zandronum is a bit behind zdoom in terms of modding capabilities and functions. Other than that it's the exact same engine with better netcode

DemonSteele is the best Doom mod

Zandronum is based on GZdoom, not Zdoom, you can't OpenGL in ZDoom it's Software rendering only.

To specify a little, I think it is based on both, they pull changes from both projects, but the main difference is in the OpenGL capabilities from GZDoom.

for shame

saved, you better deliver faggot

I'm tripping balls, man.

What's the deal with this eating ass business? I've been hearing about this a lot on Holla Forums lately, but I've never encountered it before anywhere else. I can't even reliably find porn of it. Has some specialist fetish website decided to move its userbase to Holla Forums or something?

any good heretic wads one should play?

doesnt need to be too game changing

just good levels

I was going to say History of Fruit, but that's what you're playing, right?

yeah

brutal heretic

is it even good?

Id like to give it a try, but as I said

There's times where I wonder why they gave the Cyberdemon such a toned ass.

Good evening

user no pls this isn't a doom 4 thread

go back to the NuDoom threads, friendo.

My bad, have a good one

where r u going bruh?
show it.

Wait, it's out?

I'm looking for a good compilation of mods on Doom 2 to run, eg mods compatible between them for a good experience.
I'm especially fond of randomizers, what do you guys use most of the time, any ideas ?

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yeah I have this very pic and screwed around a lot with mods, I'm currently running DoomRL Arsenal with Colorful Hell, was wondering if you guys had any more neat stuff though

Mods being compatible with each other is a very, very rare thing. One example of that'd be DoomRPG and Doom Roguelike Arsenal. LegenDoom and Colorful Hell are compatible.

Best randomizer at this point would probably be the aforementioned LegenDoom, Colorful Hell and DRLA. I dunno if DoomRPG could be classified as a randomizer?

An older good randomizer would be 667 Shuffle. Others might suggest Aeons of Death to you, but I've never been a big fan of it, as it has a lot of very visually disparate assets and poor rips, and an ass-ugly HUD. Your mileage may vary.

is there stupid sexy cyberdemon edit of the flanders pic?

yeah I watched at the threads, the mix of those both seems to give a very neat roguelike doom.
However, there gotta be some sort of issue with my system, because I can't make DoomRPG work for shit. I mean this as in it absolutely lags the fuck out whenever I'm in game. I'm not really sure why since Doom is a pretty old game, and even since my laptop is shit It should be more than enough to make it run without any issues.

Neat, I'm not sure what LegenDoom does but I'll look into it thanks

My favorite being CH as of now, I have been looking for compatibility patches with other mods. Fact is, there is one for DoomRL Arsenal right here :
forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=48746
I got all that stuff and I'm having a DECORATE crash when I try to launch the game with GZDoom, tried looking around, tried different versions of the program, I can't make it work for the life of me. Oh well.

I also thought it would be neat to bring into light another randomizer that I tried some time ago but would also makes my laptop suffers anyway. Did anyone heard about Score Doom ? The bestiary is huge and that's what got me into playing it.
scoredoom.com/

The problem is there aren't too many episode replacements. My suggestion would be to go to the idgames repository

doomworld.com/idgames/levels/heretic/

Set the sort method to 'Rating' and 'Descending', and all the highest-rated maps will be shown first. You're bound to find some maps you like.

One map you should definitely play is Icebound, by Chris Lutz. Pic related. It's pretty fucking gorgeous.

I see, thanks

there definitely dont seem to be too many heretic/hexen wads around which is shame, given the potential that base heretic, especially hexen has for mapmaking

If you want to play vanilla style use Chocolate Doom. That's what I play it on and I love it. Especially with the GUS sound enabled. Also, 2 good custom WADs I've played : Return to starun X and Alien Vendetta - This one is hard as fuck towards the end and is a bit confusing, some doors or switches lack the color of the keycard they require and they don't display the message that you need the key, so few times I thought it's just a decoration.

Rarely, a monster will go berserk and regain their HP and become stronger as well. Killing this monster will drop a weapon which has a randomized crazy special effect, like making healing items restore more HP, or doing more damage to imps & archviles, etc.

To balance that out, some monsters in a map can become legendarified, making them much much more dangerous.

I see, thanks for the tip.
Just a last question though : as it modifies weapons spawn I guess it doesn't work with other weapon mods ?

Yholl, the guy who made it, says this in the ZDoom thread:

oh I see, thanks a lot !

Quakespasm fam.

I envy the man who can enjoy great old games for the first time.

Actually, they got some competent spriters on board recently (or, rather, a competent spriter stumbled on board and began redrawing assets like crazt), so it's going to look much better in the future. I hope they will finish baron and spidermind soon, this will at least make Freedoom 1 playable.

Can someone answer this question? I know it's a classic and all, but what mindset should someone who is used to modern shooters approach this game with?

There's got to be a reason everyone loves it, and I am willing to put up with dated graphics and engines if there is something deeper to it. What am I looking for?

Maybe you could try just playing it. It doesn't cost you anything.

Not to mention you can download it instantly

Im watching gameplay of the new game. Holy mother of fuck, why are the guns so fucking weak? The guy had a quad damage modifier and it still took FIVE shotgun shots to kill a revenant. Christ, one shotgun shot doesnt even kill the weakest enemies half the time.

And waypoints? Stop developing vidya anytime. This is repulsive.

You gotta move a lot, fast.
You gotta explore.

AHAHAHAHAHAHA no.

Use GZDoom.

I think even someone who plays only modern shooters can easily understand and get good at DOOM naturally.

I don't know if they can appreciate it, but they can definitely learn. Explore the level, kill dudes who shoot at you, get keycards, maybe find secrets, beat level.

How to deal with groups of enemies should come naturally aswell.

Let me guess, you still use uTorrent, ZSNES and Opera as well?

So am I supposed to take it like a man and play on Ultra-Violence or just play on normal?

I like pixelshit. I play the games how they used to look like, so for me it's chocolate doom, Quake at 320x240 and same with HL1.

You could, you could also get a feel for the game first by playing on hurt me plenty

Yes. Difficulty levels were made with keyboard controls and lack of vertical aiming in mind. If you're playing on source port, play on UV and turn off the autoaim in options.

There's a Trump Wall map for Halo Online

Do you realise that you can save and load any any time you want ? The fuck you need autosave for. Just press that F6 every now and then and you'll be fine.

uTorrent ? Never heard of it. I'm using eMule ;^)

Real question from a dumb fuck.

What is wrong with Brutal Doom?

On the same note. I want to play Doom but I want some visual mods that actually improve the game.

Any recommendations?

People who keep asking what is wrong with Brutal Doom
Smooth Doom

Why does Trashman remind me of Paul Hayman?

Started playing DOOM 64 and shit, that guide isn't joking when it says it's the real DOOM 3. Everything looks more industrial and dark, the level music is atmospheric like the Quake soundtrack, the enemy designs look different but pretty cool.

And the levels all fell like DOOM.

Poor weapon balance, dumb design decisions regarding some enemies, headshots making things too easy, way too much style over substance, and a creator that has to be dragged kicking and screaming into crediting others who contributed to his mod.

If you really want to try it, play Project Brutality, which is a mod of Brutal Doom. Most people here like it better, although it apparently has stolen gore sprites from another mod.

Don't forget that he brought iron sights into Doom and also spawned a rabid fanbase of edgy 12-year olds who think that Doom is all about LE EBIN MELEE FINISHERS RIP AND PEAR XDDD and demand brutal poop support from every modmaker. He is also one of the reasons why Bethesdoom ended up the way it did.

it refers to VERTICAL aim, without source ports you cant aim your mouse on the y axis, so it would automatically shoot an enemy above or below you

The original Doom engine could not deal with a vertically changing viewpoint at all. I think the explanation has to do with how it draws things on the screen. It draws the screen in vertical columns. This is reasonably fast when the view moves from side to side as the engine only has to draw one column at a time, but if the view changes up and down it would have to update all the columns at the same time which would make the engine chug (on the wimpy machines of the day).

The shills have fucking dissapeared. Thank you based mark.

Thing is, you just can't have proper freelook in Doom engine, because it works in such way that walls are always parallel to the screen. Heretic had some way to fake free look, but angle was extremely limited. Even in ZDoom and Zandronum with software rendering aiming angle is limited and everything looks weird when it's too high.

But they're pretty much the same shit

Should I do tnt or plutonia first after doom 2?

Unpopular opinion incoming:
They are both frankly quite shite overall.
Try:
No Rest for the Damned
Back to Basics
Going Down

But if you are determined, do TNT first since Plutonia is more aimed towards pro-Doomers wanting to prove their skills (read: designed trial-and-error, relies more on stupid gimmicky shit, while having awful sense of atmosphere and exploration)

*rest for the Living

alright thanks, I'll look at those when I'm done with doom 2

play the original on zandronum
then download complex doom and you'll have a blast.
download doomseeker and play cooperative online.

What was that one mod that was a mix of Doom and DMC?

Demonsteele

Something coming up for hdoom.

Play it as a top down shooter (IE: Arcade games, 16-bit-era, etc) from the first person perspective.

It's about positioning and ammo management more than twitch shooting and what have you. Also, exploration.

It's not a terrible mod in of itself, but it's garnered a somewhat negative reputation due to the shitty fanbase it's brought into Doom. It can be pretty fun, but as stated, Project Brutality does it better. It's also not perfect, and fucks with some of the inherent balance of the game. Still, fun for stupid, loud romps when you want to blow off some steam.

Probably one of the most entertaining things (to me, anyway) to come from Doom came from Brutal Doom+Oblige, actually. Was wandering down a super dark hallway, figuring I'd be gunned down by a chaingunner. Instead, I see a shotgunner's corpse flying at me at 100 sanics- to which, after barely dodging it, is followed up by a revenant's fireball. Turns out Brutal Doom lets them throw corpses when they kill other demons with melee.

IS THIS THE NEW PORN DUMP THREAD?

>>>/tumblr/
>>>/4chan/

No, this isn't a NuDoom thread.

So boring.

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Whoa i do still use ZSNES man, i can't deattach myself from the past it seems.

I PULL SO HARD I RIP AND TEAR
THE SKIN

There are better SNES emulators than ZSNES?

I love eating ass more than getting my dick sucked

Yeah. There's a reason a lot of older SMW hacks required using certain versions of ZSNES, and it wasn't a good one.

I stumbled into a great idea.

Doom, but set in Heaven, with Doomguy fighting grotesque angels ala Bayonetta.

Has this theme been covered in a notable WAD?

Grezzo.

It was the first thing I thought too, but I mean like, literal heaven.

And just like that I understand exactly what kind of fag the artist is.

Holy shit I want to fucking hurt these people.

But most every journo I've seen has been either mildly praising it or sucking its dick so hard its a wonder they're not managing to pull the testicles out through the urethra

This makes me want to bomb something.

Yes.

fuck yourself shitposter

What?
That's not a shitpost, reread his post. You may have misread it.

Been building a doom basic setup with zde that someone can just extract and play. Currently have

Planning to add links in the readme for sites and a download link for every caco award wad etc and possibly some more pwads.

I'm I missing anything

transfer.sh/lW7gt/doom.7z just extract to your c drive, so its like c://doom to maintain file paths.

Thanks for the virus friend :DDDDD

What kind of girl DON'T suck dick?

The ones with no mouths user.

The best kind

Does she even have a vagina?

No.

Is there a Doom mod which lets me experience the game with a modern control pattern (WASD + mouse) but leaves everything else untouched (graphics, level design)?

What?

ZDoom. its just a program that runs doom wads but with all the upgraded settings and options. it even has the option to turn off vertical look for mouse, while still keeping mouselook.

You can customize your controls in almost any source port.

You want GZdoom for proper mouselook/vertical mouseaim. The rest is just a question of settings.

Do note that this does make certain wads easier than they are supposed to be as it'll be easier to hit distant targets at different elevations.

at least I have Holla Forums. Does anyone have the original Doom manual? I want to read it before playing for the first time

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DemonSteele is currently in a bit of a "stuck" position due to artists bailing, at the moment.

I read that a VA has gone completely missing yeah, I hope it reaches completion someday. So many of my favorite mods across many games that get stuck in development hell.

It's here.

Did an alien who got vague descriptions of what a human child looks like draw this?

jesus fuck, my sides hurt

WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH HIS LEGS?
That "kid" isn't Doomguy, it doesn't even look human.

That is one bad case of Artorias legs. I still like the art though.

what is the best way to play Doom on android

Wat the actual fuck

the best way to play doom on android is to not

Nah, Doom is shit

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Sauce on the artist?

You don't want to know the artist. That image was one of the few good things he's ever drawn, he's fucking Shadman-tier at times.
He draws futa and furshit constantly and never stops shilling his Patreon.

leg muscles don't look like that.

shading is fine but good lord that anatomy.

You fail at anatomy, not the artist.

Right arm is bent.

I'd also complain more about the legs and the cock going into what looks like a tiny peephole of a vagina. Honestly the whole thing is styalized in a way to completely ignore the male's anatomy and put focus on the female's. Of course this is porn and not actual art.

How can an artist be so good at linework/shading while being so bad at anatomy?
This anatomy isn't "below average" or even simply "bad", it's fucking awful.
Look at the kid's legs for chrissake. He looks like a Quarian.

Oh fuck he does, his legs bend in the same way.

WHAT IS THIS?

WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS?

Whats the best android version of doom with 360 controller support?

It's called a source port, user-kun, and as well as letting you experience the game with a modern control pattern is what enables mods in the first place.

I really want to replay the doom games with soem mods and wanted to ask about some good overhauls. So far my list is guncaster, demonsteele, and trailblazer. Any other ones?

The reason 'retro' FPS will never be revived is because they're objectively shittier than modern FPS games.

Are you seriously telling me that the introduction of reloading your guns and the ability to aim up and down has 'ruined' FPS forever?

The new DOOM has shown us literally nothing worse than the original DOOM offered outside of cutscenes for picking up new weapons.

Nobody played Doom running at mach 7 through the whole level until they fucking mastered the goddamn game. The confusing level design of the latter levels meant most of the player's time was spent winding around corridors trying to find the location of the next key to shove into the door for arbitrary reasons anyway.

Literally the only reason people are shitting on the new Doom so much here is nostalgia and a foolish desire to be contrarian.

Are people on this board fucking retarded?

The size of the fucking dick and balls are much worse violation of sensible proportions.

Weak wobbly leg that makes the "demon" look more muscular and sturdy.

It actually makes sense. Note that the "demon" is kinda sideways there, Doomlad's right arm is bended, while his left hand ain't.

I can't believe people are this fucking bad at reading cartoons. And the fact that nobody bitches about actual issues like the "demon" looking like a fucking dimorphized moeshit blob makes me just fucking furious.

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i'm not one to tell people to go back to reddit and stop trying to fit in, but you should go back to reddit and stop trying so hard to fit in

Most cartoons still have basic anatomy outside of big exaggerated motions. There's no excuse for a still image.

no
no they don't

Take the Huh Pill, user.

all me

t. super secret Holla Forums shill

There's no excuse for those fucking legs.

What's a good megawad to play demonsteele with? something with sparse key fetching and whatnot

I just finished Doom. Episode 4 is ridiculous at times. Tomorrow I'll start Doom 2.
I'll play all the Doom engine games this summer. Can't wait to finish that and return to Doom for an Ultra Violence 100% run.

Episode 4 was actually made after Doom 2. That's why it's harder.

Don't forget Amulets and Armor.

What is DarkPlaces?

I prefer the original Doom over the new remake of Brutal Doom. Play it with WAD(s)

Whoops.

I know. I didn't expect it to be that different in difficulty, though. E4M1 is just fucking insane compared to all the other maps. You're usually well stacked for the hard maps but E4M1 takes no prisoners.

Never heard about it. Thanks for the heads-up,

Looking up Amulets and Armor, can I run it in a source port? Is it worth playing?

GZDoom should have you covered.

ZDoom's raycast; GZDoom renders in true 3d, and has support for Quake 3 models. GZ3Doom, yet another fork, can also render in anaglyph or stereoscopic 3d.

It's not really autoaim. Hitboxes had infinite height on account of the raycaster not being true 3d. This is also why rooms never overlap. and explain it better than I can though, if you want a less stilted explanation.

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I don't think so.

Doom wiki nigga

doom.wikia.com/wiki/Amulets_&_Armor

That artist has actually done their fair share of ayys.

There.

It actually reminds me of Robert Crumb's stuff, who is one of the most excellent cartoon artists alive.

If you think art should always strive for strict physical realism, then you are a fucking degenerate and should kill yourself.

Original Doom did have horizontal autoaim in addition to vertical autoaim, to assist keyboard players. Not, of course, to the degree of the vertical autoaim.

Yes and no. Players and monsters couldn't pass underneath or over each other, but missile actors could go over or under a player or monster.

the mod author Holla Forums Doom loves to hate put up a nuDoom comparison video.
buttblasted preorder victims can't take the mental dissonance of "seeing two things side by side" and downvote.