Immigrants Do Not Increase Crime, Research Shows

I'm sure it's behind an (((Elsevier))) paywall and doesn't provide any hard data anyway.

Well shit. I didn't know that. Well, so much for them.

Well I'm not increasing the crime, so who is?

lol as for early 20th century that's a lost cause because 2nd generation aren't immigrants, they are native born.

First generation Americans like Al Capone aren't counted, I guess. That's probably their methodology.

Spics aren't as violent as niggers, more news at 11.
Both are vermin and need to be removed, howerver.

Welp, I guess it's time to pack up shop. Some (((criminologists))) btfo Holla Forums. I guess we'll have to go become libertarians now.

Go to the FBI most wanted page, at any given time half of the fucking list is Paco and Juan.

BINGO!!!

yeah, no shit unscientificamerican

Well someone's doing the raping

You're forgetting immigrants just move into nigger areas. Most spics form their own barrios where niggers live, or, previously lived.
And yes, crime does technically decrease.

"Native" includes niggers and wetbacks.

A lot of the Indians I've seen come to the US on visas will live in fairly nice areas because they're not retarded.

Cuban here

Immigrants do not increase crime

Mass immigration increases crime.

When you have massive amount of people pouring in that fail to assimilate because of cultural reasons, then they turn to crime. Which happens whenever society fails to provide opportunities for a specific group; cultural values aside.

KILL YOURSELF

Most countries have no need of immigration. Japan, China, and Korea have economic growth rates between 5% and 15%. Nations with heavy immigration have near 0%, or even negative growth rates, leading to economic collapse. Under the guise of “enrichment”, we have allowed our cultures to be destroyed, such as Christmas concerts banned in favor of “holiday” celebrations. Under the lie of “tolerance” we must accept high immigrant crime rates with daughters being killed because they would not wear a veil. Why do we really have immigration? A Liberal Cabinet Minister stated, “The only reason we have immigration is because they vote 80% for the political party that let them into the country; that’s why we have immigration!” Common immigration myths include:
Immigrants are honest, not criminally inclined.
“What criminal or terrorist problems do immigrants and refugees visit upon Canada? … This information … is kept under lock and key by the Government.” [1] A retired Vice Chairman of the Immigration Board says, “Since Canada opposes capital punishment… …an invitation is extended to all the criminals of the world to take advantage of our generosity and in the process the destruction of Canadian lives is tolerated by the Canadian government.” It is clear that nearly 80% of drug dealing and prostitution is controlled by immigrants and so called “refugees.” For many ethnic communities, crime rates are 5 times or more the normal rate for Canadians. Yet this information is forbidden to examine and discuss! You would be called an intolerant racist, an uncaring right-wing extremist, or an evil doer. Socialists think it’s acceptable for immigrants to deal drugs tolerantly to little kids, provide beatings to enrich teenaged prostitutes, or otherwise criminalize innocent people. The German Chancellor says, “…we must accept the high crime rate of immigrant youth.” No, Chancellor, we mustn’t. There is simply no excuse for any politician defending foreign murderers, rapists and drug dealers brutalizing our populations.
Immigrants are hard-working.
In the late 1970s, immigration priorities changed from being directly economic related to humanitarian third world (poor) and family reunification (don’t have jobs.) Western nations also developed a pampering, bankrupt government welfare state well known to the rest of the world. Before then, people had the incentive to work or go hungry. Margaret Thatcher pointed out, “The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people’s money.” According to a Citizenship and Immigration Canada Report [2], nearly 30% of adult immigrants, “told officials that they did not intend to work in Canada.” Presumably these freeloaders expected to be babied with handouts from people who actually do work and get to pay taxes. What percentage were simply too lazy to work, or simply intended to deal drugs or commit other crimes wasn’t stated. Is drug dealing considered to be working? Another 30% or so required racist and illegal affirmative action laws to get (steal?) jobs for which they were unqualified.
We carefully screen immigrants for diseases and crime.
Nonsense. Exemptions are routinely given to family reunification, humanitarian cases, and all refugees! According to the World Health Organization, nearly 40% of the entire world is infected with tuberculosis alone and 30% of Central Africans have AIDS. 63% of TB cases are from immigrants. Canada hasn’t managed to shake the disease… …due to it being brought over from countries where drug treatments for TB are not readily available.” [3} It is ridiculously foolish to rely on corrupt or uncaring Third World medical personnel to accurately tell us who is healthy or criminal.

Canada actually gave two complete general amnesties, allowing 200,000 totally unknown refugee claimants immediate entry with no screening at all, because of a huge case backlog. We have only 32 RCMP Embassy officers trying to perform criminal checks on 500,000 immigrant hopefuls. When immigrants are convicted here, they can appeal dozens of times, then apply for refugee status and go to Federal Appeal Court. 75% of all Federal Court (appeal) cases are immigration related. In other words, a massive $5 billion make-work project for immigration lawyers. Rwandan genocide advocate Leon Mugesera’s deportation trail took an unbelievable 10 years. Sadly, that’s normal! An Immigration Board ruled Bangladeshi fugitive Noor Chowdhury won’t be deported because he faces a death sentence for murdering his country’s Prime Minister, Sheikh Mujibur Rahman, and 15 members of his family in a bloody coup. He filed a refugee claim to stay in Canada in 1997. [4] Our Auditor General reports 40,000 immigrants ordered deported from the country, usually for violent crimes and after many appeals, have simply disappeared.
Immigrants contribute to society.
The recent Fraser Report informs us that immigrants are in fact, a $23 billion a year drain on our economy. That means each newcomer family now needs over $150,000 in extra support every year. Regrettably, the study did not factor in crime damage and a host of other supports and costs such as lawyers or MoneyGram transfers. When all costs are added, the drain is over $100 billion a year. Or a $15,000 cost to all other families in the country. The Canadian Council on Social Development notes that, “After 1991, 52.1% of all immigrants in Canada were impoverished.” Translated, that means they require massive amounts of social support, medical services, and welfare. They will receive huge benefits but not pay any taxes. The Council also reports a significant income drop for other Canadian families. Factoring taxation, family incomes have dropped 10% in 20 years. Roughly 80% of federal government expenses (taxes) are in: Social Services, Social Assistance, transfers and debt, about half going to “newcomers.” The same is true around the world. In the United States, “nearly half of California’s immigrants… … had been on welfare for years.” [5]
Immigration provides us skilled labour.
Supposedly, officially (*snicker* they count children) 23% of immigrants are skilled. Even still, according to Statistics Canada, about 43% can’t speak an official language of the country, so they immediately require $3 billion in language training and more billions in support until they can integrate. Pray your hospital doesn’t hire nurses or doctors who can’t read what medicine to give to which patient. This might be why 5,000 Canadians die every year in hospitals because of “mistakes.” Foreign “skilled” labour also ensures that our young people will have trouble getting hired, because they don’t have “enough experience,” a common excuse used by businesses. Additionally, it’s irresponsible to steal from the Third World the very talent they need to get out of being Third World.

Immigrants create, not steal our jobs.
One could argue that drug dealers and assorted criminals employ herds of lawyers and armies of immigration officials. Immigration directly causes unemployment when more immigrants are brought into the country than the economy can create. Jobs are stolen in the following cases. Consider a National Post front page headline story, Public Works Department Totally Banned the Hiring of all White Males Across Canada. If this law was directed against Jews or blacks, it would be reviled as the most racist law ever enacted in the world. But Liberal Affirmative Action racism against whites is legal and good. The Public Service revealed that white people, not minorities, are subject to intense racism. Maria Barrodos (President of the Public Service Commission) told the Senate Human Rights Committee that 17.3% of all new hires were “visible minorities.” About 3 times what it should be. CBC reports [6] “Sara Landriault… …applied online for an administrative assistant job with Citizenship and Immigration Canada and was asked by the online application if she was white, aboriginal, or a visible minority. When she answered white, she said a message informed her she did not meet the criteria and could no longer proceed.” The Employer Wage Subsidy program [7] aims at “encouraging the hiring of Priority Groups (Visible Minorities and Newcomers.) will pay “70% of the hourly wage.” Ontario Premier McGuinty recently offered to pay companies $10,000 to hire foreign workers, but not Canadians. (The Canadian Press) Western Governments are so racist against white peoples it can only be called treason and genocide.
Immigrants do the dirty jobs.
It is perfectly normal for anyone entering the job market to work at a menial service job. But working at your uncle’s brother’s third cousin’s ethnic restaurant as a kitchen helper is just an immigration scam for entry. No Canadian could even apply for that job because we don’t speak Rakahovian. Our economy is thus mired in a myriad of low wage service jobs which cannot support families without taxpayer support. Consider our last two immigrant/ refugee Governor Generals, not quite a “dirty job.” One was so stupid she thought she was actually the Head of State of Canada, hence her nickname, “la reine noir.” (Black Queen) The Prime Minister had to rebuke her, informing her, she was merely the Queen’s Representative here. The girls’ constant frivolous “partying,” often in Europe, cost taxpayers $10s of millions.
Immigrants cannot get jobs because of racism.
This is such an all-purpose so overused nonsense excuse. White people have actually been banned from employment, which is pure racism. Language and qualification are the real issues for immigrants. Since 43% of immigrants do not speak an official language of the country, it would, and should be, very difficult to get a job as a teacher not being able to speak a language students would understand. In parts of Africa, the witch doctor’s “medical treatment” for AIDS is to have sex with a baby or virgin. Not necessarily willingly, either. No matter how qualified that witch doctor is, they are is still unqualified for us and would not pass the medical exams required to perform open heart surgery in any hospital.
We have a population shortfall [not enough children] and need immigration to pay for pensions.
The Fraser Report actually reported that immigrants only pay half the taxes of all other Canadians. So immigration will actually make the problem worse. In the last 30 years, we have seen massive unqualified and humanitarian immigration directly causing a 600% increase in our taxes to pay the resultant needed supports, welfares and crime damage. Perversely, our women are forced to “work” solely to provide economic and social support for immigrant families and their children. In fact, the number of children we have murdered by abortion and birth control, equals the number of immigrants brought into the country. We killed our own babies to make room for other people’s children. Government-directed genocide or gross stupidity?

Refugees are poor unfortunate souls needing our protection.
Normally, the Western world accepts about 10% of applicants as being genuine refugees. (60% in Canada) The other 90% are considered be fakes, freeloaders and frauds. Applicants are not even required to show any identification at all. In other words, a fast track for every criminal in the world is provided. A free hotel room and living allowance for two years are pretty appealing perks. Still, 77% of “refugees” are on permanent welfare, costing billions. In Montreal, a sample of “refugees” were monitored for crime. Within 5 years, 30% were actually of major crimes such as drug dealing. (Those awaiting trial or still being investigated by police were not counted in the study.) Tens of thousands of Portuguese demanded refugee status claiming religious persecution against Jehovah’s Witnesses. Church records show there are only 1,000 actual members in the whole of Portugal, and all were accounted for, and happy! According to QMI News, 71% of the several hundred thousand accepted Tamil “refugees” had returned home for holidays, after claiming inhuman oppression in that country. Such travel is solid legal grounds for immediate deportation as fakes, but none are.
Lawyer Ms. Dodd says, “I never, ever saw anyone who met the definition of the refugee in the hearing room. These people are just plain liars.” She continues, citing many Iranian cases. “We called them the lipstick and littering cases… They would arrive, asking me what was the best tennis club to join.” The entire refugee industry is clearly a total, wholesale fraud. The industry scam costs Canadians $30 billion every year to reward criminals (and accept damage), support welfare lazies and pay parasite immigration lawyers. The obvious solution is to defund the whole fraudulent bunch, and to whip and deport the cheats immediately as is done in Malaysia. (Whip the lawyers, too!) A general policy of: 1 LAWYER, 1 TRIAL, 1 WEEK should be enforced, for all legal cases and hearings. Not 25 years, 15 lawyers and $700 million cost, as in the Air India Terrorist Trial. [8]

1: Immigration, The Economic Case, Dianne Francis
2: Facts and Figures 2000
3: CBC (News) In Depth Health
4: (Toronto Sun)
5: Ibid.
6: cbc.ca/news/canada/federal-affirmative-action-policy-faces-review-1.940237
7: canada.ca/en/services/business/hire/wagesubsidiesotherassistanceprograms.html
8: sikhsundesh.net/trial.htm

The people you are talking about (the 1/100th of a percent) are often referred to as the “law abiding” illegal immigrants. Well, here’s the wrinkle with that–there is no such thing as a “law abiding” illegal immigrant. Every last one of them is a criminal by virtue of their illegal presence here. “Okay, but that’s it,” you spew. No. No, it’s not. Not by a long shot. Their illegal status necessitates that they engage in all manner of criminal activity. They commit fraud and impersonation in pursuing employment. They violate housing codes. They defy transportation laws. In sending their children to school, they falsely label their children as “homeless” so that they can evade legally required documentation like immunization records. Their undocumented status also makes them tax evaders. This is just a small sampling of the criminal activity they engage in every single day. And even if they’re otherwise “well-behaved,” they end up associating with many illegal immigrants who are also career criminals. Much of the things they do just to go about daily life (like getting fake IDs living in illegal alien “safe havens” and lying to law enforcement) get them associated with professional criminals–alien or otherwise. Why in the world would anyone expect that someone who engages in criminal behavior and cohorts with criminals daily would make a decent citizen? If they just jumped the fence and then lived out the rest of their lives like ordinary people, my concern would be solely with their perpetual tax evasion and continued lawbreaking. BUT THAT HAS LITERALLY NEVER HAPPENED.
So let’s quit with this tired trope of “otherwise law-abiding illegal immigrants,” It’s a categorical impossibility and we need to call it out when we hear it. Arguing for amnesty for illegals is like arguing that people should kill themselves so they can avoid dying from cancer. The point is that we already have a multitude of people who either have gone–or are currently going–through a legal process to become legal residents of this country. The people who do this can accurately be described as “law-abiding.” Adhering to our legal process is really the first step in determining whether or not you’d be a decent citizen.
Illegal immigrants cannot be counted in this category, because they very first thing they did when they came to America was willingly violate the law. Then they proceeded to willingly break the law every single day they voluntarily remained. In other words, they make clear in no uncertain terms that they aren’t interested in entering the country on our terms. The suggestion that these people who commit crimes on a daily basis wouldn’t continue to break the law and that they wouldn’t engage in otherwise subversive behavior after being given amnesty goes against all observable evidence regarding criminal behavior in general. It’s a completely bonkers argument and only someone who is paid to advocate that could possibly pretend to believe it.

Most Americans underestimate how much illegal aliens cost us each year. Looking at the Heritage Foundation study, you will find that the average illegal household pays about $10,334 annually in taxes. The disparity lies in the fact that the average illegal household receives around $24,721 in government benefits (this includes direct benefits, means-tested benefits, education benefits, population-based services, interest and other spending, and pure public goods expenditures) annually. For comparison, the average households with college-educated heads received $24,839 in government benefits while paying $54,089 in taxes. Now, looking at these figures, we can conclude that the average household of illegals costs taxpayers $14,387 per annum. The Heritage Foundation estimates that there are 3,444,955 households of illegals in the US, containing “no more than” 12,708,875 illegal immigrants. This estimate is flawed, however, because it is based off of a census study conducted in the year 2001. It’s strange how immigrants flood into our country and hop the border in droves, yet the amount of illegal immigrants has stayed roughly the same… A more apt estimate would be the one conducted by Ann Coulter in her book Adios, America! in which she cites a study by Pulitzer Prize-winning journalists Barlett and Steele that estimates an average of 3 million illegal aliens are coming in yearly–enough to fill 22,000 Boeing 737-700 airliners. Coulter also cites a study Fred Elbel done in 2007 that estimates there were 20 million illegal immigrants residing in the US in 2005.
Taking these new figures, we can calculate that there are close to 50 million illegal immigrants currently in the US. However, since I understand these studies are just estimates; I will use a more conservative estimate of 35 million. This new number of illegals is close to 3.5x the Heritage Foundation’s estimate, so we arrive at 12,057,343 households of illegals. AII of these households are costing US taxpayers $14,387 per annum. Multiply these two numbers and you get the cost of illegal immigration to the US: $173,468,986,547.
The US Customs and Border Protection (CBP) contractor, the US Army Corps of Engineers (USACE) completed 651 of nearly 652 miles of fencing mandated by Congress in 2005, which was a part of the DHS’ Secure Border Initiative (SBI). The price per mile (PPM) ranged from $400,000 to $15.1 million, for an average of $3.9 million PPM. The USA has close to 2,000 miles bordering Mexico and other areas illegal aliens typically trek though. Assuming the best option is the option for $15 million PPM, it would cost taxpayers around $30 billion to build a comprehensive wall. The price to build a wall that would last a lifetime is less than 17% of the yearly cost of illegal immigration. The choice is extremely clear.

The areas mentioned are not the only areas in which we would save. If we decided to deport all illegal aliens, we would save the $173 billion that is spent yearly on the illegal aliens. This would allow us to increase the border patrols budget by $15 billion–a more than 100% increase–$10 billion towards defense spending, $50 billion towards paying back the national deficit (or $60 billion; whatever), all while cutting taxes by 2.5% across the board. In addition, close to 29.3 million jobs would be open. This number comes from multiplying the amount of illegal aliens by 89% (the amount over the age of 18), and then multiplying that number by 94.5% (accounting for just Obama’s fake unemployment rate in May 2015). With the amount of job openings caused by deportation, everyone drawing unemployment in the US would be able to find a job. And there would be close to 21 million jobs left, which would allow for an extraordinary amount of economic growth and would cause a massive surge in the Labor Force Participation Rate, which is seemingly lacking. When US citizens fill those jobs, the government will see a huge leap in tax revenue. The average US citizen pays close to 30% in taxes on their average $44,888 salary. The average citizen pays approximately $13,466 in taxes per annum to the government. Multiplying this by 31.3 million (the amount of jobs that now pay income tax to the US government) gives us $421.5 billion. Allocating these funds could give us $50 billion for infrastructure repair, $10 billion for education, $15 billion for defense spending (or, again, no more than we’re spending now at all), $150 billion to pay back the national debt, and would allow us to lower taxes again, this time 5% across the board.
Freeing up all these jobs would allow us to completely cut all unemployment benefits, which would discontinue FUTA (6%) as well as SUTA (5.82%) taxes on business, while saving taxpayers 108.5 billion USD annually. 10 billion of these newfound funds could go to paying back the national deficit, all while cutting taxes yet again, another 2.5% across the board.
In conclusion, building a border wall and deporting all illegal immigrants would allow us to spend per annum: $15 billion on border patrol, $25 billion in defense spending, $50 billion for infrastructure repair, $10 billion for education, and $210 billion towards paying back the national deficit–in addition to their current budgets–while cutting taxes nearly 12% on business, and 10% for citizens.

Sources:

thesocialcontract.com/artman2/publish/tsc_17_4/tsc_17_4_elbel.shtml
heritage.org/research/reports/2013/05/the-fiscal-cost-of-unlawful-immigrants-and-amnesty-to-the-us-taxpayer
barletteandsteele.com/journalism/time_border_1.php
gao.gov/products/GAO-090-244R
globalsecurity.org/security/systems/mexico-wall.htm
bls.gov/news.release/empsit.nr0.htm
money.cnn.com/2011/12/05/news/economy/unemployment_benefits_extension/
wsdot.wa.gov/NR/rdonlyres/6C563967-79A1-4FB6-8A71-B7027B536D43/0/FICAFUTASUTA.pdf
nowandfutures.com/taxes.html

Case closed

niggers don't count tho

Either bait or niggerfaggot. Reported either way. :^)

Illegal

I didn't write the article, you fucking autist.

It doesn't matter whether they increase crime or not, that isn't the fucking point. The point is that we want to have a homeland. We can't have a homeland if 20% of our population are foreign born and another 40% of them are niggers, spics, chinks, et al. Why is it such a shock that people want to live in homogeneous, high-trust ethnostates? Look at the fucking Japanese. They appear to like being Japanese and want their islands to keep having the unique social and culture characteristics of Japan. Oh no, white people want the same thing! What a surprise!

Because:

That's the mentality of the left when it comes to America. They clam the fuck up when a point like yours about other countries is brought up.

They don't have to increase the crime rates to justify people nott wanting them. What matters is that they don't assimilate, they reproduce like rats, live like third worlders as if they're still in their homeland, and treat the rest of our countries as such.

Expecting Pablo who has just come from Tijuana and arrived in Seattle to assimilate and act like the first world whites around him is complete nonsense. He'll be tossing his used toilet paper into bathroom trashcans in no time. spics actually do this

I live in California and I can promise you that spics leave their trash everywhere. They have no conception whatsoever of object permanence, which I previously thought was something infants learned within their first 6 months of life. Not spics! Once you throw something in the bushes, it's gone forever, didn't you know?

Kill yourself anyway.

This is 100% horse shit

Trump was referring to ILLEGAL immigrants. This study deals with LEGAL immigrants. Fucking dishonest cocksuckers.

Good point.

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I'm not going to waste my time reading more jewish (((research))) because I've seen 1000 studies saying the same thing, and when you look at the methodology it's always a joke.

But let's just think about this logically. Are these "criminologists" saying that a community of multi-generational, high-IQ white residents with stable family backgrounds are equally likely to commit crime as some third-world shitskin straight off the boat from some African nation with a median IQ of 80?

This is just more kike propaganda trying to pass itself off as "academic research". Into the trash it goes.

I don't want immigrants even if they commit zero crime.

This is tripe.

But yeah, you're right.

It does increse crime.
.t sweden

Yeah, about that meme… Its trash.
Asians suckle the government teat even harder than the fucking spics.

Fake

you should be the one to kill yourself nigger

Fake news.

Fuck off spic.

Kill yourself

This. Doesn't matter if they're fucking saints. They aren't us and they need to go back.

I don’t care what you have to say, as you’re obviously retarded and quite plainly wrong.

Sounds like the study implies that all groups of people are the same, with the same values and the same willingness to adapt. It's mainly the RATE at which we allow immigrants to come it that fucks everything up (why adapt to customs when your people are here with you?). Now, I will say, I'd rather not have any here, but the fact that we're letting these sandniggers in at extremely big numbers and so suddenly does have more of an impact than these so called scientists have considered. Fuck, I just made a better hypothesis than these dumbasses. Also the >lol there are outliers
meme.
No fucking shit you eggheads, but do you think at LEAST 5 of many, many countries (UK, France, Sweden, Germany, America) that HAVE had these terrorism/rape spikes are fucking OUTLIERS? Way too common to be a one-off. You can't just use that to dismiss actual problems in important countries.

Kek agrees with me, weird how I've been getting more repeating digits ever since I brought a Kek statue into my house

You obviously have the intelligence of a mud shit

Hey faggots, I have a PhD from an Ivy League university, not even kidding. It is in an engineering field, not social science, but I have quite a bit of statistical knowledge and this politics shit is sort of my hobby.

So let's break this piece of shit misleading article down in greentext:

I'm also drunk so excuse the shit grammar

Me too, it's pretty bizarre.

Sounds like bullshit mate.

Mud people commit more crime, all data we have shows this, and theres no reason to think one subset, defined via legal status, is liable to be different.
The notion that Indians and Asians do not commit more crime relative to Whites is fallacy as well.

I dont buy anything you said aout yourself either - what sort of Ivy League PhD would make claims about himself on the internet, on the chans no less, and think anyone would believe him?
A drunk one, maybe… But given thats how you opened up the post, seems liable you were trying to sneak it in hoping folks would just swallow it and allow you to lend credence to your commentary - not that being a PhD from and Icy League school means anything at this point, besides that theres a drastically high probability of you being a Jew.

Oh Christ, I didnt even see this part.
Busting out annecdotal claims while trying to offer commentary as regards statistical evidence?
Ivy Leavue my ass, and you admit youre from JYC to boot - which, since JYC is only about 33% non-Hispanic White, means you've got a 2 in 3 chance of not being non-Hispanic White.

I give it 89% probability you are a lying kike, 74% probability you are not a like but the Asian/Indian offspring of an immigrant trying to shill for your kind.

You have to go back, in either case.

100% of illegal immigrants commit crime in the act of subverting our borders and another in flagranting our residency laws. That's at least two crimes that every single illegal immigrant commits.

Indians and Asians definitely commit less violent crime than the general white population.

Arabs, Spics and Niggers commit more violent crime than the general white population, so that's why they cancel out.

There is no evidence to prove your point that Indians or Asians commit more violent crime, yet there is a mountain of evidence to prove my point that they don't. Look at any FBI crime report, or more localized crime reports if you would like. I figured this was basic knowledge, even among retards like you, so I simply explained how the original article was being misleading.

Yes, anecdotal evidence, dumbass, This isn't an academic debate, I don't have to stick to only cited statistics. When you disprove my other non-anecdotal claims, then you can mention the anecdotal evidence but until that happens, you're a retard without a leg to stand on.

You should leave statistical analysis to the professionals.

All the stats I've seen say Asians commit less violent crime than whites. They're intelligent but they lack the testosterone and masculinity of whites who epitomize both strength and intelligence, instead of just one or the other.

They still don't belong in white countries though, any more than we belong in theirs (for now).

That's the most blatant propaganda I've read since the article claiming the Statue of Liberty is muslim.

Let's do this, First is Gail Markle

Gee, I wonder why she's writing papers that make immigrants look like saints? Next is (((Saskia Weiss))), who published a paper with the following extract
because of its promotion of a sense of belonging, or of itsbuffering of the damage of discrimination. Despite growing
investigation about Latinos’ overall health, few studieshave simultaneously examined the influence of multiple
cultural strength factors, especially racial/ethnic identity,social support, and religious attendance, on these outcomes.
Using the National Latino and Asian AmericanStudy, we examine the potential predictive value of thesecultural strength factors on Latinos’ Self-Rated Mental andPhysical Health (SRMH and SRPH).

Or in short, "minorities should be allowed to retain ethnic identities or else they'll fall victim to the propaganda we put out to destroy whites", typical tricks schlomo. Finally (((Charles Jaret)))
>Dr. Jaret came to Georgia State University in 1975. Prior to that, an interest in socioeconomic inequality, family patterns, and changes in local community life in cities and suburbs attracted him to sociology and graduate school. While in graduate school he also studied race and ethnic relations, the American Jewish community, and demography.

What could possibly be his motivation here? And why are they all such ugly abominations?

Tell them it's not even an argument, because>>9219213
to enter America illegally or to abuse our Visa system is a crime.

Refer them to this:

wew, pardon my spelling, corrected.

They don't even bother doing that. All we have to do is look at California crime rates from the past 50 years.

Ever wonder where they get the money for that? Ever wonder where all the investment money going into India ends up? White people are literally paying pageets to come into our country and shit up our jobs and neighborhoods for a small chance of a return on the investment. Emerging markets are a total farce.

Poor white people commit less crime than rich blacks you Cuban traitor.

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Now suddenly the caveats come out, eh?

Shows where your interests lie, which (no pun intended) is lying.
Indians and Asians DO engage in as much, if not more, violent crime than the native White population.
Deal with it.

You've provided no evidence thus far, so I don't feel the need to do anything about your 'evidence' claims except laugh at you and remind you that you tried to pull annecdotal evidence into this before, so, I'll just say I've seen Asians and Indians engaging in violent crime in the form of gang-activity, particularly in low-income areas.

FBI crime report doesn't make distinctions between Indian/Asians, its just 'Asian', so we can't make distinctions between sub-groups reliably - its entirely possible that, if you break down the data we have, Indians, just as an example, ARE over-represented in terms of, again just as an example, violent criminality - but because they are grouped into a larger more nebulous category, that can be concealed.

Its basically exactly what they do with 'Hispanic Whites', thus bolstering White criminality figures and reducing the glaring variation between Whites and all other clades.

"Asians" are presently about 5.8% of the US population, in 2010 they were about 4.6% of the population. Let's assume a value of 5.2, midway between.
In 2013, they were responsible for 1.2% of murders, 1.2% of rapes, 0.7% of robberies and 1.5% of assaults.
Thus they're under-represented by, respectively, 4%, 4%, 4.5% and 3.7%.

Meanwhile, Whites are approximately 62-64% of the US population - lets go with 63%.
They were responsible for 45.3% of murders, 66.2% of rapes, 41.9% of robberies and 62.9% of assaults.
That's underpresentation of 17.7%, over-representation of 3.2%, and under-representation of 21.1% and about even in terms of assaults.

You can go further into examination of non-violent criminal activity, and you'll find further data suggesting Asians/Indians are more prone to non-violent crime than crime, and their under-representation relative to Whites is often significantly shy of the White margin in the same vein.

What's more, as 'Asian' is not broken down into 'East Asian', 'Southeast Asian', 'Indian', etc, we can't really have any sort of grasp as to what those groups espouse relative to their contribution to the population, at least, not from FBI data.

Then why did you open it by giving your academic credentials, kike?

Woops.

Then neither do I, but if I did, I'd still be right, because all the evidence available supports the argument that the "Asian" category of criminal statistics demonstrates a greater degree of proportional representation on behalf of that clade than can be claimed of the White category.
I see Asiatic gangs all the time, and Indians are pratically Jews in terms of their willingness to scam people and engage in untoward activity, well above and beyond that of Whites.

You didn't make any non-annecdotal claims, really, you just made claims and expected us to swallow them, because you said you're an Ivy League PhD and then gave yourself an out by saying you're drunk.
Drunk on a Thursday? Mmmm, mmmmmmmm, mmmm.

You can't trust someone just because they call themselves a professional - especially not when they make outlandish claims about themselves on the internet, anonymously, and then try to give themselves an out by mentioning they're drunk.

You haven't said anything about my notation that, if we ARE to believe what you're saying about yourself, likelihood you are either a Jew or a non-White drastically rises, thus undermining whatever academic claims you might seek to make, because academic Jews and non-Whites have a vested interest in presenting data in a manner that is hostile to native White interests.

You've undermined your own argumentation by revealing yourself as probable to be someone who has a vested interest in convincing us of the data skewing in one direction, while engaging in all sorts of underhanded or just downright incompetent argumentation.

For somenoe claiming to be a professional in terms of statistical analysis, you're really shitty at it, in basically all contexts of import.

First generation (native born immigrant parents) have the highest rate of crime. So the immigrants *might* not fuck it up but the babies they shit out do.

Again, that 'violent' descriptor suddenly comes into play - not that it matters, because even in terms of violent criminality, the Asian clade demonstrates greater proportional representation relative to population contribute comparative to the White contribution in the same context.
You saw the data, you just didn't take the time to interpret it correctly.

I dunno about all that, but I will acknowledge that Asiatics tend to be the opposite 'extreme', with niggers on the opposite extreme and Whites resting comfortably in what must be considered a 'goldilocks zone'.

Agreed.

Basically this

Like that swedish cop
My suspect list look like this all day everyday

Mohammed
Mohammed
Mohammed
Mohammed
Mohammed
Mohammed
Mohammed

That's really not an argument though, public opinion (what they want) can be easily shaped by indoctrination and propaganda. Just look at the krauts and the swedes, they're all over the Arab cock even though it's literally destroying their countries, but by your logic it's okay because they want it.

This is the same retard, so I'll respond equally…

Deal with it.

WRONG.

They do make distinctions between East Asians and Indians in some studies, but if it didn't, it would only FURTHER prove my point that Asians commit far less violent crime, and crime overall. If you're looking at both groups combined and its still so small, and you have no way of singling out Indians to even argue your assertion that they're more criminal.

In 2013, they were responsible for 1.2% of murders, 1.2% of rapes, 0.7% of robberies and 1.5% of assaults.
Thus they're under-represented by, respectively, 4%, 4%, 4.5% and 3.7%.
Meanwhile, Whites are approximately 62-64% of the US population - lets go with 63%.
They were responsible for 45.3% of murders, 66.2% of rapes, 41.9% of robberies and 62.9% of assaults.
That's underpresentation of 17.7%, over-representation of 3.2%, and under-representation of 21.1% and about even in terms of assaults.

LMAO! Holy fuck, you're dumb. This is where your argument completely hits the shitter. Ok kids, lets sit down and review some basic math.
By your logic, 0.1% of 5% is a 4.9% under-representation while 50% of 70% if a 20% under-representation. Here's a hint, and this is me doing math when I'm drunk and tired: when measuring representations, you take proportions of the total, not RAW PERCENTAGE. Better yet, kill yourself, my man.

I've made no attempt at statistical analysis within this thread. Only laughed at your garbage attempts and inability to understand quantifiable forms. God, britbong education standards have really gone down the shitter lately. And that attempt at psycho-analysis, jesus christ lmao…

Drunk on a Thursday? Mmmm, mmmmmmmm, mmmm.

Because I'm smarter than you and have read more academic studies, including ones about immigration. You sound really butthurt and insecure about our massive difference in education level. It's alright, you might make it up some day, probably not though considering your past performance of low IQ.

No.

Which you didn't provide… Go on.
… Except it doesn't, and you didn't provide it, so it doesnt matter.
That's not an argument.
All data available shows the Asian clade - of which Indians are a subset - to exhibit greater representation in violent criminality relative to population contribution.
Prove me wrong.

If a clade contributes 0.1% of the violent crime, and 5% of the population, that IS an under-representation of 4.9% in the context of contribution to violent crime relative to contribution to population, yes.
And yes, same goes for a clade contributing 50% of the violent crime, while contributing 70% of the population, espousing a 20% under-representation to violent crime relative to population contribution.

Prove me wrong - and see if you can do it without getting triggered. ;^)

Proportions of the total what?
Criminality? Population?
As it stands, that comment doesn't actually mean anything.

Exactly, except every claim you've made has existed in the context of statistical analysis, including your falsely claiming yourself as an academically-trained analytical statitician (and then claiming this wasn't an academic debate), with zero evidence provided.

Sounds like liberal argumentation right there lad.

You sound really butthurt that I called out the fact that you expect us to believe you as to your claims on an anonymous image board in a failed attempt to make yourself seem more trustworthy than you actually are.
And, just guessing here, because I noted that the probability of you being a non-White or a kike acting within the context of your own interests in a most disingenuous fashion.
I mean, look at how many baseless insults you've thrown just in that pathetic tirade.
Salty. As. Fuck.

So, when are you going to address the fact that, if you ARE an Ivy League PhD (somewhere between 1 in 10 and 1 in 4 Ivy League attendees being Jews, not to mention all the other non-Whites) from Jew York (33% non-Hispanic White population), the likelihood of you being a mudshit or a kike is astronomically high?
You keep trying to dodge that… Which is funny, because its a statistical argument.
Should be right in your wheel house.

The time for arguments and rhetoric is over. There is no appealing to the people unaware of the demographic shift that will doom the future of their lands, their race and their nation, because if those arguments had worked they would already be on the side against "muh immigration". As irony would have it, it's literally CY+2.

DEHUMANIZE YOURSELF AND FACE TO BLOODSHED

It's not a crime if it's just their culture, you racist privileged white bigot.

Some of these studies compare illegal immigrants to specific majority black cities, and that's how they get their "natives" committing more crimes.

Why are crime rates even brought up anymore? Who the fuck honestly cares? It's not about crime. It's about securing white nations for white people, as others have already stated.

No nignogs, no chinks, no spics, no mudslimes.

I can't help but notice that they're not explaining in what way "vibrancy" is the antithesis of crime.

Vibrancy must be the new "Cultural Enrichment".

It's because black people commit such an enormously high level of crime, really. Things are quite different in Europe, Australia, etc.

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Weren't there a Norwegian study that showed that 100% of all rapes in Oslo were commited by non-european immigrants? And then of course we have the stats that the swedish police have started talking about.

I would like to bring up the following data, pic related from Germany. Since almost any foreign group has a higher crime/100,000 it follows that bringing these groups into your country increases the crime rate.

Yeah I know this article is about USA, but the title makes a general statement

((research))

Even if the paper wasn't behind a bloody paywall I don't think I would've given it a chance

They're dredging up old studies which have a shitload of methodological issues with them. Having read all of them that I'm aware of (and holding a degree in criminology) I can tell you that these studies make the same mistakes that the anti-death penalty studies do and that they use just about every trick in the book to make the data say what they want it to.

The British journal New Scientist has spent the past year trying to provide scientific proof that Donald Trump is literally Hitler. They even examined the neurobiology of Fake News.
And yes, it is (((New Scientist))) founded by (((Tom Margerison))) and operated by the (((RELX Group))), formerly known as (((Reed-Elsevier))).

No the point is the drastic rise in cartel crime and terrorist activity that is blatantly ignored in the article.
It's a complete fabrication.

Jews corrupting truth through the use of argument? Never!

Could you give examples? Just wanted to clarify.

https:// www.google.com/trends/explore?q=Vibrant

In my entire time working towards my bachelors I had but a single class that wasn't full of these studies. With very few exceptions they are authored by Jews. If you want some real criminal science pick up "Self-Control and Crime Over the Life Course." Its a phenomenal text that uses actual fucking science.

Google trends is sure interesting - check out the 'vibrant' event of 2010 on the timeline of searches.
https:// www.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&q=Vibrant

2010 was the year Soros launched Open Societies Foundations. 'Vibrant' is their meme.

These studies are so full of holes its hard to just pick one issue. This is of course by design as they damn near root these studies in causal interference. One of the chief problems with these studies is that they can't reproduce the results across multiple runs, assuming they run any repeats at all (they specifically avoid doing so). They then operate on assumptions that are essentially completely untested and end up creating a tangle of cross references, compiling one giant incestuous monolith that they pretend is evidence.

Who could possibly be responsible?

Because I'm smarter than you and have read more academic studies, including ones about immigration. You sound really butthurt and insecure about our massive difference in education level. It's alright, you might make it up some day, probably not though considering your past performance of low IQ.

This would be a great segue into the real US crime problem:

I didn't ask for issues, I wanted examples. Application of the issues to the facts.

Reminder that the (((paywall))) is being broken: gen.lib.rus.ec

Aside from it being wrong in general, the first post immediately draws out the largest and most apparent flaw with this. Because the article doesn't say Illegal Immigrants, but we know it means Illegal Immigrants and is trying to shill for them. You are comitting a crime when you immigrate outside of the law. This is followed up with a plethora of crimes if they get a job and/or home and someone is paying them, and if they use a bank, and if they get any services, their existence constantly propagates crime upon crime, just by being and living here. Why do liberals not understand this? More than a few of these assholes engage in identity theft. Wow, legal immigrants don't propogate crime. What a fucking surprise. Meanwhile all those groups in the OP pretty much destroyed the country with their crimes so nevermind and fuck it all anyway. God damn this is some of the more retarded bullshit I've ever seen come out of these idiots.

Assimilation is death shitskin.

Usually, migrants commit more violent crimes rather than more crime in general. There's also a confusion of illegal migrants and migrants in general.

Then you'll have to drop the 42 dollars for the full text of the study they're referencing. The only study who's text they offer in full is the 1929 Wickersham Commission's report on crime which is almost 100 fucking years old and only briefly touched on the immigration issue. If you manage to get the entire text of the study they're talking about I'd be more than happy to point out what's wrong with it.

I bet this is some sort of research that tested if:

And then try to paint as:

They're not. A minority that isn't dealing with them directly, and the invaders themselves support it.
Merkel was supposed to be a """"conservative"""", hardly anybody supports her.

Is this the 1931 report?
Can't find 1929.

ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/Digitization/44540NCJRS.pdf

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wickersham_Commission
Wiki also says the 1931 report was the end result of the 1929 commission.
Might be a good read, that happened at the start of the depression. Would be a good comparison of the times.

Use Sci-hub faggot

What about refugees?

Also I noticed how they seem to not disclose the 1st gen immigrant crime figures.
That is the main one that counts.

Furthermore, immigrants didn't blow up people in 1930. The whole circumstantial situation today compared to the past is different.
Furthermore, non whites are becoming a proportionally larger demographic now. This means that new immigrants today are more likely to become included with the organized crime of the established demographics.

They used only the non citizens, they failed to disclosed the latter generations. I wonder what result we would find.

That's another issue. The didn't really disclose whether they were refugees or legal/illegal immigrants.

...

Fun statistics from Oslo: Rape where victim doesn't know perpetrator: 100% muslim immigrants.

Sounds like bullshit to me, some jewish magic perhaps, to the trash it goes.

Really?
In chink land the sewers are so shit there are actually signs saying "please do not throw toilet paper into the toilet"

((((((((((RESEARCH)))))))))))

Not good enough, I want to go through this report.. when I get back from break :^)

(((RESEARCH)))

They must have used the wrong comparison group. The true answer is simple: every time an immigrant commits a crime it is a completely avoidable an unnecessary occurrence because they didn't have to be there in the first place.

The only way out of this would be if the presence of immigrants reduces native crime so much that even with added immigrant crime there is still a net benefit. I fucking doubt it.

This is almost certainly true.

For going on many years now, the racial right has been obsessed with immigration, and that has really come to the forefront in the past 2 years. However, the central issue is race, and all things being equal the most violent are blacks, or more technically, certain related populations from sub-Saharan Africa.

You can bring in immigrants into the United States from all over the world, including low crime areas like Europe, East Asia, and probably some populations from South Asia, and they will be far less violent than niggers.

We honestly need to stop this watered-down paleocon bullshit about immigration. Immigration is a red herring.

The central issue is race.

Lugenpresse!

fbi.gov /news/stories/latest-crime-statistics-released
Try this.

Can you invent a robot that rounds up illegals and throws them over the wall?

and you're forgetting that a lot of spics are also classified as white by police agencies, local, state and federal:

‘Hispanic effect’ skews crime stats

archive.is/IXPtd

"Since there is no Hispanic category in the FBI’s Uniform Crime Reports and approximately 93 percent of Hispanics identify themselves, or are identified by law enforcement officers, as white, most arrests of Hispanics are added to white violent crime rates.

“The result is that the violent crime rates for whites are inflated and the black rates are deflated in these studies,” says Steffensmeier. "

All Across The Nation Wanted Latino Criminals Are Marked As ‘White’

archive.is/pZ52F

"All across the nation, local, state, and federal law enforcement agencies list wanted Latino criminals as white. On the Miami-Dade Police Department most wanted sexual predators and offenders, 14 of 20 individuals are listed as “white.” These 14 “white” males are: Oscar Loaiza Restrepo, Javier Tejada Jr., Julio Sanchez, Yandy Perez, Ariel Rovelo, Julio Cesar Lopez, George Noa, Alexis Garcia-Checa, Benjamin Elisha, Niudbel Del Toro, Eugenio Carbonell, Rafael Morales, and Joaquin Armando Arroyo."

Well, guys, I guess Holla Forums wasn't right after all…

Also, Wikipedia's extract on "The Conversation":

tl;dr they are a bunch of leftist cucks.

The Wickersham Commission is more historical artifact than science and has been since the early 70's. Its research methods are primitive compared to today's methods and no less susceptible to political considerations than we are today. Keep in mind that the federal government at the time of the Great Depression was looking for any reason other than their failed immigration policies for their current economic downturn and that the Wickersham Commission was made of politicians and government employees as criminal science wasn't an academic discipline until the 70's.