Why do tankies keep insisting that the Holodomor didn't happen?
You would think from all the photos, personal experiences and first hand accounts that you LARPING faggots would just accept that the Soviet Union was a murderous shithole.
Tankies are pure ideology.
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this tbh
I wonder how many posts will it take until somebody starts posting the infographs
The Holocaust and Holodomir were invented by porkies to prop up Agribusiness in the United States by selling popcorn for tragedy exploitation films
Tankies are slightly less worse because it's true that the Holodomor is massively overblown in terms of numbers.
And because it wasn't done on purpose. And because famines happened everywhere at the time.
There a lot of lies behind Holocaust, too. I think the numbers are skewed. Also "making soap and lampshades out of people" is the biggest scaremongering story ever, lol.
Yeah, same thing with people traveling in OVNIs and talking with aliens.
It's impossible that after so many photos and first-hand accounts there are still people who deny that The Truth is Out There.
The holodomor is about as real as ukraine itself (ie it isn't)
Do better Badhistory.
Why even bother denying it?
It's not like it was real Communism anyway :^)
Because Stalinism is a religion.
nice sources fag
The only questionable asssertion about it was that it was intentional genocide. Also the black book.
Go back to reddit
Stalinism is a religion that the Left has never cured itself of. Communists can't accept how the USSR was a failure, yet you people think killing Ukrainians was "justified" because of "Dear Leader Stalin".
And this "because Western nations condemned Dear Stalin, the Holodomor was overblown and it probably didn't happen" denialist mentality is disgusting. You deny reality because you can't accept that Stalin fucked up communism for centuries.
You still haven't refuted their beautiful job of humiliating r/communisms autistic nonsense of "muh Holodomor didn't happen".
Ukraine is a sovereign nation.
I wonder why communists are still so stupid about Ukraine. Stalin is dead, he can never be resurrected.
I swear you communists are like the Nazis that fetishize Hitler.
Only tankie posters are like that, majortiy of people here are just marxist or libertarian socialist / anarcho-communist.
Oh now we're using fascists arguments as proffs(note that holodomor started with Hitler/Goebles), anarkotrots never learn.
If I was a commie, I would be a stalinist
Stalin was a nationalist, don't get me wrong, another genocidal maniac commie, but at least he was nationalistic and had an inferiority complex for georgia making him to love russia and instead of invading europe to spread "duh revolution" and "unite duh workers" like trotsky and lenin, he tried to build russia up from the ground and it worked.
No such thing, stalinism=marxism-leninism, this term was invented by trots, and anarkidies entered the bandwagon latter.
Citation needed
Let's get our terms straight here. The Holodomor refers to a specific view of the famine as a deliberate act of genocide, which is by no means a universally accepted fact even among bourgeois historians, see Davies' and Wheatcroft's comprehensive works on Soviet industrialization.
It did happen, it just wasn't a genocide.
Ask Getty, Taugr, LaCroixRiz, Furr
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Stalin couldn't change the weather, also maybe kulaks shouldn't have been hoarding all the food surplus.
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Just because propaganda carried over from the first world war into the second doesn't mean the vast majority of what we know about the Holocaust isn't completely true.
Holocaust denier logic
Try again Tankie.
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sure, don't read the historians I've listed.
Or wheatcroft. Keep shitposting
This is true. Most bourgeois intellectuals have been made to distance themselves from that narrative now. Only among some Trotskyists and other hardliner anti-communist sects will you still find people defending it today.
I've read Tauger and Wheatcroft as well. They both agree the famine was exacerbated by government policy but to a lesser degree.
I don't think it was a genocide like the OP said but it was a famine caused by government policy mixed with poor harvest. Just like the Chinese one, except the Chinese one was almost entirely because of Government policy.
what do you mean "have been made"?
You make it sounds like somebody is holding a gun to their head
try again
Wheat rust occurred in Russia and Ukraine during the Tsarist era and not one of the Tsar famines got even close to the death toll for the 1931-32 one.
enough with this division shit faggots
we should be working together to build a better future not fighting about a past we cannot change
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[citation needed]
There is premeditated murder (yes, I planned his death), then there is criminally negligent homicide (oops, sorry, didn't know throwing a lit cigarette into a room with gas leak and humans inside was a bad idea). (I am not a lawyer btw)
Still goes to show that centralized control over food is bad, be it capitalist or state communist.
Show me one then Tankie.
I don't wanna better future with tankies.
but i'm ok with a future with anarchists
Before or after you kill them?
I'm a leftcom.
after we kill you
i'm not planning on killing them mate
i'm only gonna purge porky
Still waiting on that Tsarist famine that killed as many people as any of the Soviet ones.
I will admit as far as ML's go, Castro is pretty based.