Do you think art can be revolutionary? We've had a lot of artistic and cultural movements in the past (think situationists) aimed at being avant-garde and generally a thorn in the side of capitalism and the spectacle, but to what extent do you think these can have legitimacy when dealing with capitalism? How many people do you think were convinced by the situationist films and books?
Is it useless lifestylism? And even if it is useless lifestylism, can it still be useful for putting meaning back into peoples' lives, where it's been taken away by the modern system?
Once art is not elitist it can be used to fuel a revolution as long as you can get that art into the mainstream in the streets Poetry takes the prize of being the most effective non elitist form of pro revolution art
Brayden Phillips
I don't know if he's considered Situationist, but I'd say Banksy has been pretty influential to modern day society in an anticapitalist sense.
I'd also probably argue to some extent that cartoons and children's shows, starting in the 90s, which only some of us kids will remember, had episodes with anticapitalist themes. The Simpsons definitely did.
So, art inciting revolution by itself? Probably not. Gradually molding young minds over time towards the left, planting radical ideas? Maybe. Cartoons are still made to sell toys, which means they're also always going to try to turn kids into consumers, unfortunately.
Noah Jackson
a correction : I don't know how poetry id doing in the west but where i live poetry is the only dominate form of art that is participated by literally everyone
Julian Butler
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Lincoln Mitchell
I think you're right on Banksy. Banksy's a pretty great artist as well IMO.
Yes, I very much agree with that. I would say the point of art is to transmute an experience and to inspire people to see themselves as the art eventually
Eli Bell
where are you from ?
Juan Rodriguez
art is inherently revolutionary
Jace Thomas
cmon someone mention RATM or Immortal Technique while we're at that edge cutting revolutionary art according to leftypoler's standards
Carson Nguyen
One eye on you one eye on the jazz
Elijah Martin
Banksy is propped up by the British government.
Evan Brooks
I don't agree with the traditional marxist view that the state works as a monolith in the favour of one class alone. You can certainly sum up the actions of the government as in favour of the bourgeoisie, but these sorts of "puppet state" models are what make Marxian-economics useless to me.
Whether Banksy is propped up by the government doesn't affect his own personal views, or what effect he and his art have had. It seems a sad thing to try and turn every good thing sour, don't you think?
Robert Nguyen
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Samuel Jenkins
Are you guys serious?
Bansky is the lowest of the low. His work consists of facile, shallow anti-consumerist platitudes. It has no personality or depth whatsoever; it is the kind of "subversive art" edgy soccer moms share over Facebook.
Caleb Cook
Nashist scum pls go
Brayden Johnson
this
Luke Perry
*shrug* I'm no artist
Kayden Myers
You're an idiot.
Levi Young
If media can be revolutionary in the sense that it fuels the revolution, then art is too because art is media.
Easton Rivera
Art is reactionary, as it is an expression of individualism. Individualism will be stomped out or there will be no communism.
Smash art.
Wyatt Jones
chinks really can't appreciate individualism, eh?
Aiden Jones
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Wyatt Robinson
When art starts to become a deliberate vehicle for "revolutionary" sentiments, I believe it's called propaganda.
The situationists were certainly interesting. Art can be pretty subversive and empowering to the individual, more good art can only be a good thing, but it can only do so much. Obviously, it cant do much to change the objective economic conditions that we are restricted by in the first place. Athough, I do think art is one of the main places where the market is really failing people. People less and less want to pay for movies, music etc. Piracy is still pretty mainstream and adblockers are widespread. Netflix and such can only alleviate this so much.
Gavin Adams
pic related, it's banksy level social commentary
Christian Smith
this is the only funny tumblr text post ever
Anthony Cook
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Michael Jenkins
Hi Holla Forums!
Juan Wright
Give it a rest. He's right. Look at what individualism has brought us in every revolution that brought us down. Fights over individual ideological purity that result in countless dead comrades and most recently idpolers. Our ideology was always about the collective good not fucking admiration of silly aesthetics like some fucking fascist.
Samuel Gomez
"Fights over individual ideological purity" is everything but individualism.
John Evans
Communism means the destruction of every feudal, bourgeois, "traditional" institution in existence. Communism means wiping out the past entirely to pave way to the future.
Clutching onto decaying traditions of any kind reactionary and needs to be called out and condemned by every serious revolutionary.
Jeremiah Anderson
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Gavin Gonzalez
Most 20th century art movements were revolutionary; de stijl, constructivism, bauhaus, dada, surrealism.
Evan Wilson
No, it doesn't.
Julian Ross
Trap Images are the defintion of revolutionary art.
Oliver Gonzalez
How could a trap have such impossibly wide hips?
Jayden Gray
Brown people
Julian Gonzalez
Quality thread. Thanks, Comrade Rebel.
Ethan Carter
No. art is escapism and bourgeoisie
Noah Campbell
Obviously Thog kept all the paint's and dyes to himself so only he could paint the cave wall. He got Bok to guard his supplies to make sure Dugg and Rudd couldn't steal them and he set Keet to gather berries that make dies rather than food.
Cave paintings were very bourgeois.
Sebastian Fisher
“Third cinema is, in our opinion, the cinema that recognizes in that struggle the most gigantic cultural, scientific, and artistic manifestation of our time, the great possibility of constructing a liberated personality with each people as the starting point – in a word, the decolonization of culture.”
