Is there anything legitimately debunking Thomas Hobbes's "we need state cos we is evil and shit" meme?

is there anything legitimately debunking Thomas Hobbes's "we need state cos we is evil and shit" meme?

You can`t since he was right about the state of nature.

read Santa Claus

Rousseau's social contract

Not an argument.

He based it off the idea of natural rights(that included property rights), that holds no basis in reality or history.

have to jack off to elf porn now thanks

How is "people are inherently evil" also not a feels-over-reals position? People are not psychologically uniform. If we were, we would not be sapient; even gorillas have personalities.

Hey, it's really not nice to the roaches to compare them to humans.

Humans are not inherently evil but we are an evolutionary mismatch.

In old tribal life, we would know the people we travelled around with and treat them nicely while having no mercy for other tribes. With the tribal structure we had broken and humans thrust into a world too big for them, we can either see the entire world as our tribe or, which is more common, regard us as a one man tribe and fuck up everyone elses shit. The former is called a saint, the latter an egoist. Guess from what sort we have more running around.

Not thinking in eternal truths and ideals. Read Marx.