State of the left in Canada? Random questions

Just a general question, since I know jack shit about what's going on here right now.

Also, here's some random stuff I wouldn't mind an answer to as well.

1. Is weed still going to get ACTUALLY legalized or not?

cbc.ca/news/politics/marijuana-legislation-knowns-unknowns-1.3660258

2. Does this basic income idea have any chance of actually taking root here?

benefitscanada.com/benefits/other/ontario-to-move-ahead-with-basic-income-pilot-83901

3. What's the future of the NDP & Green Party?

huffingtonpost.ca/2016/04/10/thomas-mulcair-ndp-convention-delegates-brian-topp_n_9657070.html
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4. How's the condition of the CPC these days? My grandfather's been a long time member, but I never ask him about it.

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5. Finally, how's resistance to the tar sands, beyond the linked video, and Canada's oil based economy?

youtube.com/watch?v=qPgMluRj9W8

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will the NDP ever recover from losing Jack Layton? he was a social democrat but the way he sweeped the floor with ignatieff back in 2011 really impressed me.
Mulcair does not fill those shoes for sure. hoping for somebody really socialist to pop up there. any bets?

sweeped → swept - sorry, shitty UK immigrant grammar

I'm Canadian.

- Justin Trudeau Liberals seem to be taking their sweet time to legalize weed.
- I don't think Universal Basic Income is going to get past the pilot stage here in Ontario. If the pilot is even going to be implemented at all.
- The NDP is going to elect a new leader. It remains to be seen if they will go back to their old reformist roots or continue down the third-way socdem path.
- The Greens are perceived to be a one-issue party so they likely won't ever take off. Even though they are pretty solid when it comes to socdem issues (they too want a universal basic income).
- CPC are irrelevent pretty much. They don't have the financial budget to run many candidates. They didn't run in my riding. I voted for the Greens.
- As for the tar sands, Canada is heavily reliant on our oil industry. The oil industry and jobs reliant on the oil industry make up a huge chunk of our economy. This is probably why Prime Minister Justin Trudeau is Pro-Keystone XL whereas Barack Obama vetoed it.

Leaf here.


As of now it's on track to be legal in 2017.


I haven't heard much about it tbh, but I can certainly see a lot of people supporting it.


The NDP looks promising. They have realized that they won't win by being Liberals 2.0, and they have had a shift to the left inspired by Corbyn and S█████. The new leader will probably be similar to those two, as will their platform. The Greens are centrist economically and even lean a little right. Idk why they are always considered leftists.


Laughably shit, but not as laughably shit as the RCP.


Outside of the west there seems to be a desire to wean ourselves off of oil, but in shit blue provinces they will lynch you if you say the word "sustainable".

Speaking as a Canadian from the glorious Pacific Northwest, my priorities are as follows:

- Total worker ownership of the means of production, or any policy that furthers this cause, including a gradual adjustment of the property rights regime (which would of course necessitate using parliamentary supremacy to create a statutory rather than a common law definition of property rights) or preferential tax rates and low-interest government loans for co-ops and other worker-owned and operated firms.

- Legalization of guns for everyone, including explosives, artillery and automatics, as well as military vehicles; and loosening of restrictions on the carrying of arms. (The PAL system itself is fine so long as they don't stop giving them out like candy to anyone who isn't a spurned spouse with a history of violence and delusions.)

- The legalization of loli, weed, LSD, sedition, cocaine, prostitution, meth and heroin and the striking of any offense from the Criminal Code whose raison d'être is not the prevention of harm to caused by another, or exploitation of, actually existing human beings. A switch to a public health model of addressing substance abuse. (Speaking of, I've been out of the loop - did Parliament ever replace the prostitution statutes that the SCC struck down way back when?)

- The immediate dismantlement of the RCMP and its replacement with non-uniformed community-elected law enforcement bodies that answer directly to their electorate.

- The prohibition of internet bandwidth caps and any similar practices used by communications services providers to extract rent, and the eventual provision of free high-speed internet for all citizens and legal residents of Canada.

- More money fo dem programs and a commitment to end the privatization of public services across the country.

- Public investment in social housing available to any and all that want it.

- The sinking of Quebec and Ontario into the Atlantic Ocean and the emancipation of rightful Western Canadian clay.

How and why should I vote in order to achieve any of this?

In Canada I notice that the liberals promote this idea that we are superior to the United States and everything is awesome now that we have Justin Trudeau as Prime Minister. Canada is more classcucked than the United States currently. At least the US has B████ ██████. We don't have a B████ ██████ in Canada. And while Trump is certainly no working class hero, he is fuelled by working class resentment.

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explain to me why my redneck neighbors need howitzers, please

I'm from Alberta which is one of the most conservative provinces so this might colour my answers a bit.

Eventually. I'm skeptical that they'll do it in the promised time frame though. Before the next election would be my guess.

I'd hope so but classcucked people probably won't have it at all.

3. What's the future of the NDP & Green Party?
Depends on who the NDP decides to be their next leader. It could go either way. I don't know anything about the greens.

I'm probably going to become a member but they're almost completely irrelevant.

There are a lot of oil bootlickers but even in the cities in Alberta there's some resistance to it.

In one word, self-defense. Artillery is one of the most important military technologies that exists in the modern context, an essential part of combined arms tactics.

Realistically, though, you're not going to see very many private individuals shelling out the cash necessary to own and operate a large caliber piece (the cost of ammo alone would be highly prohibitive, and it's a crew served weapon to boot), so you're much more likely to see them in the hands of militias and other group organizations, which acts as a form of insurance against a dude going postal and shelling his workplace, getting your neighbourhood too in the process.

The rationale behind legalizing them is to minimize the power differential between the state and the people - with conventional arms functioning as a force multiplier, they allow an armed minority to much more easily dominate an unarmed majority. Plus, I don't know if you're aware of this but socialist societies tend to come under concerted military attack quite often, for some reason. When your neighbourhood watch owns and operates a large bore howitzer that might serve as something of a deterrent. Plus, restricting the right of free populations to own arms is something that came about fairly recently, coinciding quite peculiarly with the advent of capitalism. Sure, you couldn't always wear a sword in town, but you sure as fuck could own one. (At least as far as Europe is concerned - maybe it was different in Asia, the Middle East and Africa. Given that at one point in time in medieval China there was a peasant uprising literally every hour, I wouldn't be surprised if they actually had arms restrictions at some point.)

Anyway, it's already technically legal in Canada to own artillery, as we have no upper limit on caliber, unlike in the States. You see Finnish anti-tank guns come up for sale now and then for a few grand, but of course explosive ammo is still prohibited so you're only going to be using them to put (very big) holes in paper and not blowing anything up.

The problem is that with Trudeau, normies do not think that they need a S█████ are they?

Normies think that Trudeau IS a S█████, but he's kept all the draconian surveillance and "anti-terror" policies of Harper, as well as Harper's anti-labour policies and complete disregard for indigenous people, plus oil dick sucking, and pro free trade. He's a little softer on immigrants and his rhetoric is generic feel good liberal bullshit, and publishes photos like this, and that has literally fooled idiotic people.

Ironically one of the only areas where he is actually different from Harper is the only one where Harper wasn't total shit, and that's the Torries loose stance on gun control.

Nothing can be done. The classcucks of Canada, and elsewhere, will continue to suffer as a result of their pervasive cowardice/ignorance/lack of organization. This capitalist dystopia we all reside in will continue, completely unabated, to grind us, and this very planet, into dust. Based on climate change/overpopulation alone, the game's already over. Anything else is moot in the face of that.

Regardless, here's a pretty good, fairly recent, video about the current sorry state of the left in Canada.

youtube.com/watch?v=T7ahT0gfOhU

It might be possible to make civilian tier mortars, it's something I've been working on trying to think through.

Making howitzers and rocket artillery is just sort of a no-go, though.

He's basically Canada's Obama. Same old shit in a more friendly-looking package.

I get the rocket part, but why no conventional artillery? You can just go
Legally it should fly.

Holy shit I'm jealous.

To be honest, the SVT is kind of a piece of shit. It's finicky as all hell and you need three hands to field strip it.

If I was ever in a combat situation, I'd much rather have an SKS, or my K31 (good taste on that, by the way) at long range. The SVT is still pretty cool, though.

Amerilard, or did they stop selling them or something?

K-31 was a gift from my step grandpa, so it was free lol.

Also I'm a leaf, I just haven't saved up for a Grizzly yet. I'm going to pick up a Mosin and a Mossy 88 first though.

Oh, neat. I'd say that you've already got the best military bolt-action rifle there is, but the Mosin is still a lot of fun regardless. Great for getting spiders off your ceiling too, with the bayonet on. Definitely my favourite pike.

Whereabouts you at, anyway? I'm in the 604 area.

705, Northern Ontario.

Ah, I've heard nice things. It'd be nice to find someone local to shoot and hunt with who isn't a total ding dong. Last time I formed an acquaintanceship over this was some 19-year-old kid - he seemed interested in the state of the world and we talked a bit, I pointed him to some readings by Kropotkin. When we next talked a few months later, not only did he apparently not read a thing, but he started coming at me with Stefan Molyneux memes and implied I should die because supporting taxation is a violation of the NAP. No cure for stupid, I guess. And all the local socdem liberals hate guns, of course.

Up here people love their guns but almost every major community is based around heavy natural resource industries and they're all unionized, so pro labour agendas sell pretty well up here.

Never going to happen. Alberta has carbon trading.

Seriously could the Canadians get any "softer" on immigration?