You should not be against abortion

But only in a few cases:

Free of choice:
Big health risk for the mother

Strongly suggested (forced hopefully):

Defective/disabled Baby
Murderer/criminal parents
Drug addict/alcooholic parents
Mixed races

Other urls found in this thread:


Murder isn't justified for those reasons.

If someone if stupid or irresponsible to make that decision lightly, they probably don't deserve to have their genes passed on.

It's a self regulating form of eugenics and as such it should be absolutely a free choice in all cases.

Why should I be for Moloch worship?

Abort yourself nigger


Fuck off moloch

i agree.

Nope. At this point you can also say that jews being in control is natural regulation.

you can't argue with those trips


Fighting against the jew infringing upon our rights and freedoms isn't quite the same as a lib-slut scraping out a niggers semen post-factum.
The only similarity is that both make the world a better place.

IT the same as the rainforest in Brazil shit.
No one gives a shit about the trees, it's about the precedent of manipulating with sovereign country internal policies.
Or state control of the body in this case.

I can support that

Intelligent people don't get abortions. Dummies do that is the point.

If the libscum can't abort her white baby (racemixing not allowed) she will become a mother, will have to take care of it. Being a mother also changes women dramatically.

Not all people stay libsluts all their lives, they eventually change growing up and a lot regret their decisions.

song name pls

She's not gonna change if her partner isn't willing to take responsibility and if he does then he probably can convince her not to abort.

If the man isn't there to make her change or supports his genes being removed from the gene-pool, then it's better there be no baby than one to grow up as fucked up as it's mother.

No we don't need libs breeding in hopes they will calm down. Sage because this thread sucks. We already know abortion is necessary to keep the nog/spic populating under control. Anyone against abortion in countries overrun with these animals is a shill or a christcuck.

Well i believe most libs stay that way in their 15-30 then change. At lest the ones i knew.

abortions should be allowed but only physical abortion, no chemicals. also, post-birth abortion should be legalized

Those exact reason in the OP are why I'm not against banning abortions. Also add in the fact that it's kept the nog population at bay since roe vs wade. It's been around 13% for generations now.

Sage because OP is shit and presents no new arguments or solutions.

The problem with legalized abortion that is restricted to those reasons in the OP is that how do you stop a slut from getting pregnant and crying rape so that she can get rid of the baby. Problems like that do happen, and will happen if abortion laws are restrictive.

Abortion laws aren't the first line of defense or the root of the problem however: Family values and morality are. You can ban abortion all you want but until feminism is crushed and women snap out of their "strong womyn" spell they will never be anti-abortion. People today are anti-family. Therefore anti-life. We have to get back to being pro-life from a lifestyle perspective.

Banning niggers from aborting or retarded babies from being aborted isn't going to help anyone. The answer lies in the foundation of why abortion is a problem in the first place. Why western women feel the need to postpone childbirth. Why fathers don't want to marry. Why the state is raising our fucking kids for us. etc. etc.

Over half of the babies in France and sweden are aborted. Wonder why their population is getting raped? They're killing half their children!

I'd rather take a persons child and raise it myself rather than allow abortion. GIVE ME YOUR CHILDREN. I WILL RAISE THEM TRADITIONALLY AND WITH LOVE AND RELIGION.

Vile whores murdering their own infants and the men who support it (French cucks) deserve to be genocided. I'm sure there are some good people in France maybe in Britainy and Normandy (hopefully) but looks like its the #1 hell hole of degeneracy.

Trump's pro march for life tweet was one of the most popular tweets this week..

Yes, but ONLY in those cases.

Why should a child die because they were created through rape?
No, fuck you.

Issue then becomes what constitutes a health risk? Is 'psychological traumau' enough to justify killing a child?
Risk of loss of life. Otherwise, squat and push.

See Eugenics. Otherwise, nope.

sage for shit thread is shit

Agreeing ith liberals for wrong reasons:

I just wish there is implememted financial abortion for males

When the fuck did Holla Forums become a stupid fucking Christian conservative board? There is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING wrong with voluntary eugenics. Shitskins and Libcucks killing their spawn is a GREAT FUCKING THING.


Christcucks got lost on their way to Milo's House of Big, Gay, Nigger Dicks after the election, and they're feeling a little empowered after President Trump said Christian refugees will take priority over Muslim refugees, while forgetting about the extreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeme vetting that's going to happen. They think he's about to open the flood gates and let the Christian mud masses flow into the country, rather than realizing the policy is a way to exclude any Muslim that passes the extreeeeeeeeeeeme vetting by substituting it with a Christian if it comes down to it.

Legalise and encourage abortion for all non-whites. Make it illegal for whites except in cases you have suggested.

I don't think you christcucks comprehend how the political and cultural landscape of America would change with 30 million more niggers running around. Abortion is a gift from God himself to the white man, if only the mexicunts used it.

Christcucks need more Godly niggers

Better solution: Make abortion illegal, punishable by forced sterilization. Make race mixing illegal, punishable by forced sterilization. Make birth defects illegal, punishable by forced sterilization. Make drug addiction and alcoholism illegal, punishable by forced sterilization.

Murder is already illegal and punishable by death but just to be sure we should sterilize them when they check in to the prison anyways.

You're not a very bright person are you ?

That way there wouldn't be enough fine godly gentlemen of african descent to impregnate my wife and marry my daughters! Are you some kind of atheist cuck?

No shit. Obviously, as a National Socialist board we approve of abortion of retards. Otherwise they would have to be euthanized after birth which is immoral.

killing babies is murder
this thread again ?

Ban abortions past 24 weeks. Babies born at 24 weeks can survive with medical assistance. Prior to that point, death is guaranteed. Update this when NICU is able to save younger babies.

We should really focus on getting non-whites out of our country first though. We can have this argument when we're talking about white babies, the only ones worth saving.

Eugenics demands that the flawed embryo never even makes it to conception.

Seems like a slide thread. I'm already okay with it under certain circumstances, though.

That's really nice of you to offer to raise your wife's son, especially since his dad decided to act like a nigger.

This thread should have been aborted.

What the fuck are you talking about? Do you know anything about National Socailism whatsoever?

Literally nothing wrong with Eugenics.

Okay, but that's their fault for having sex. Anytime you have sex you should expect a kid, none of that "but I need an abortion because the condom broke" bullshit


Abortion is as much murder as ejaculation is murder. No brain, no consciousness, no murder. It's that simple. Should it be allowed to be used recreationally for whites? No, but for non-whites I see absolutely no problem with it. The question to me isn't whether or not it is murder, but whether or not abortion can be used to improve society. Reactionaries who will sit lazily on the bandwagon, either through ignorance or religious beliefs, are the only ones pushing this narrative. Abortion isn't murder.

Holy shit. Source. You're definitely a cuck, but I want to see those numbers.

Well you used capslock you must be telling the truth

Why the fuck would any retard in this thread willingly have a Down Syndrome baby when they could try again and have a healthy one? In these cases, abortion makes perfect sense.

Abortion is murder, but since it's mostly non-Whites and liberals that do it, it should remain legal, as non-Whites and liberals all need to die. In an ideal society, there would be no abortion, but we obviously are not in one.

I'm against abortion because Blacks that are not spayed will naturally redpill white people.

but if you kill your enemies, they win

Not a cuck Its just that the majority of abortians are female and I'd love if they'd just give me the girl instead of killing it

Are the people on Holla Forums who are staunchly "pro-life", saying so for reasons other than towing the party line and it's the opposite of liberals? Are any of them not Christians? This is legitimate curiosity, because I want to see your reasoning.

The way the left uses abortion and the politics around it are abhorrent, it is certainly something to be used far more selectively than the left would say, but there are absolutely pregnancies that can be justifiably terminated. I'll even say it for you; some babies are better off murdered.

There is absolutely no argument for supporting the birth of more niggers. Niggers justify abortions alone. We need more abortion clinics in the inner cities. Check em

Abortion is the only reason niggers and other assorted shitskins haven't completely overrun the U.S.
It keeps their rates in check and I got no problem with it

Abortion should be required for mixed-race and disabled babies.
Abortion should be suggested but not enforced for: rape, drug addicts, criminal parents and health risk for mothers.

In all other cases it's immoral.

Life begins at conception so I'm against abortion by default.

The people who consider/get abortions are obviously unfit to be parents in the first place. Plus more non-whites get abortions than whites. We don't need more white children growing up to be fags, because dad left and mom was a bad parent. We don't need more white children growing up in ghettos with Jamal as their only influence. In a perfect country NatSoc Germany it should be illegal, as casual sex will be a taboo.

We just need to kill all non whites races (exception of Japs).

Imagine how high the average IQ would rise? Its the next step in evolution.

Abortion and contraception need to end for whites. Sacred marriage to virgins should be the only allowed sex. This is the Aryan way.


Whats wrong with killing rapers, muds and their offspring?

I'm not against abortion, nothing wrong with abortion. I think more people should have been aborted, like faggot OP.

Abortion should be easily accessible and not stigmatized in any way. If you like eugenics, you like abortion. If you dislike eugenics, you dislike abortion. It's that simple.

First off semen and the ova are alive before conception, the only difference is 23 new chromosomes, that's it. By your reasoning any form of killing is wrong because the victim is alive. Therefore you must be against the death penalty. Therefore you must hold ALL life to the same level. A nigger baby and a white baby must be equal to you.


I'm pro-life for white people, pro-abortion for everyone else.

Nope, try harder. There’s a very explicit line drawn between the two states.

Abortion is wrong wrong in every situation.

We should not punish children for the sins of their father.

The fetus can be removed without killing it.

The others situations listed don't even deserve a response.

I just want to take away the freedom from the individual to get an abortion and instead make abortions of risky, unhealthy, mixed-race, etc. children MANDATORY and the preservation of healthy pure-breed children MANDATORY.

Fuck you brainless sissy retard lover.

What most people don't realize is that most abortions are awful groid-spawn and racemix abominations. I'm all for abortion rights since it means a better white/nonwhite ratio. Also I believe people should have agency over their own lives and bodies, but whites are generally more sensible and sympathetic with the unborn child, 'alive' or not.

What is that explicit line? The fact that on their own the two cells will die, and that when together they have a change to replicate and expand.

You don't account for desert magic in your equation. Git on the cuck level.

Criminals have been proven to be more likely to have children that break the law, even when no contact with parents. Thus why families with a history of crime used to be sterilized.

Only past 23 weeks



Fuck off blue pilled degenerate. You're no better than the shitskins and jews if you think its ok to kill a baby.

AD not AC

You anti-abortion activists will go up to people like hotwheels and ingore them when they say they want/wish they were aborted. I was so happy when they legalized euthanasia in my country; and so fucking mad when I realized I didn't qualify for it and they make it really difficult to seek out euthanasia. I'm a crippled fucking mess and I fucking hate all of you that think I should live.

It is MERCIFUL to kill an unhealthy baby rather than force them to grow up to be a burden, to not be able to fap, to not able to work, to never have a GF, and to suffer every day of their shitty life just to die at about 30 years old.

Fuck off with your debunked bullshit propaganda haekel drawings

Nothing wrong with killing babies in many instances. Why should a Downs baby have to suffer his existence just because you are posessed by Jewish desert demons?

You assume you are the arbiter of whether that baby should be allowed to live or not. Guess what, you are just a degenerate, not the person who's life you arbitrarily choose to kill

doesn't justify murder.

Wrong. Let's take an ectopic pregnancy, for example. It is possible to remove the section of the fallopian tube where implantation has occurred, without damaging or harming the fetus. This surgery, theoretically, could be performed mere moments after the ectopic implantation, well before 23 weeks. The fetus can be removed without destroying it and the mother's life saved.

A dog is more conscious than a baby.

I am pro-infanticide, we should be allowed to cull unhealthy babies up to the age of 5.

Degenerates often are pro murder. Go back to Holla Forums cuck

Yep, reported for shitposting.

You had nothing else, whatsoever. Your image is bullshit. Fuck off, kike.

If killing babies is wrong because they die then pro-natalism is wrong because there is only one thing that guarantees nobody has to not die; not being born in the first place.

Anti-abortionists should become anti-natalists. This way nobody has to die anymore.


a women should be free to abort her baby
society should NEVER have to pay for it.

Parents should be allowed to have their newborn babies killed because they are “morally irrelevant” and ending their lives is no different to abortion, a group of medical ethicists linked to Oxford University has argued.

The article, published in the Journal of Medical Ethics, says newborn babies are not “actual persons” and do not have a “moral right to life”. The academics also argue that parents should be able to have their baby killed if it turns out to be disabled when it is born.

The journal’s editor, Prof Julian Savulescu, director of the Oxford Uehiro Centre for Practical Ethics, said the article's authors had received death threats since publishing the article. He said those who made abusive and threatening posts about the study were “fanatics opposed to the very values of a liberal society”.

The article, entitled “After-birth abortion: Why should the baby live?”, was written by two of Prof Savulescu’s former associates, Alberto Giubilini and Francesca Minerva.

They argued: “The moral status of an infant is equivalent to that of a fetus in the sense that both lack those properties that justify the attribution of a right to life to an individual.”

Rather than being “actual persons”, newborns were “potential persons”. They explained: “Both a fetus and a newborn certainly are human beings and potential persons, but neither is a ‘person’ in the sense of ‘subject of a moral right to life’.

“We take ‘person’ to mean an individual who is capable of attributing to her own existence some (at least) basic value such that being deprived of this existence represents a loss to her.”

As such they argued it was “not possible to damage a newborn by preventing her from developing the potentiality to become a person in the morally relevant sense”.

The authors therefore concluded that “what we call ‘after-birth abortion’ (killing a newborn) should be permissible in all the cases where abortion is, including cases where the newborn is not disabled”.

They also argued that parents should be able to have the baby killed if it turned out to be disabled without their knowing before birth, for example citing that “only the 64 per cent of Down’s syndrome cases” in Europe are diagnosed by prenatal testing.

Once such children were born there was “no choice for the parents but to keep the child”, they wrote.

“To bring up such children might be an unbearable burden on the family and on society as a whole, when the state economically provides for their care.”

However, they did not argue that some baby killings were more justifiable than others – their fundamental point was that, morally, there was no difference to abortion as already practised.

They preferred to use the phrase “after-birth abortion” rather than “infanticide” to “emphasise that the moral status of the individual killed is comparable with that of a fetus”.

Both Minerva and Giubilini know Prof Savulescu through Oxford. Minerva was a research associate at the Oxford Uehiro Centre for Practical Ethics until last June, when she moved to the Centre for Applied Philosophy and Public Ethics at Melbourne University.

Giubilini, a former visiting student at Cambridge University, gave a talk in January at the Oxford Martin School – where Prof Savulescu is also a director – titled 'What is the problem with euthanasia?'

He too has gone on to Melbourne, although to the city’s Monash University. Prof Savulescu worked at both univerisities before moving to Oxford in 2002.

Not at all. I assume I should be the arbiter whether MY baby should be allowed to live or not. If other retards want to spend resources on dysgenic family programs, I don't put my nose into that.

I could agree to having your degenerate dysgenic dream christcuck state decide that my downs baby HAS to live because reasons, if that means you have to raise it and it's all on you.

Defending the decision to publish in a British Medical Journal blog, Prof Savulescu, said that arguments in favour of killing newborns were “largely not new”.

What Minerva and Giubilini did was apply these arguments “in consideration of maternal and family interests”.

While accepting that many people would disagree with their arguments, he wrote: “The goal of the Journal of Medical Ethics is not to present the Truth or promote some one moral view. It is to present well reasoned argument based on widely accepted premises.”

Speaking to The Daily Telegraph, he added: “This “debate” has been an example of “witch ethics” - a group of people know who the witch is and seek to burn her. It is one of the most dangerous human tendencies we have. It leads to lynching and genocide. Rather than argue and engage, there is a drive is to silence and, in the extreme, kill, based on their own moral certainty. That is not the sort of society we should live in.”

He said the journal would consider publishing an article positing that, if there was no moral difference between abortion and killing newborns, then abortion too should be illegal.

Dr Trevor Stammers, director of medical ethics at St Mary's University College, said: "If a mother does smother her child with a blanket, we say 'it's doesn't matter, she can get another one,' is that what we want to happen?

"What these young colleagues are spelling out is what we would be the inevitable end point of a road that ethical philosophers in the States and Australia have all been treading for a long time and there is certainly nothing new."

Referring to the term "after-birth abortion", Dr Stammers added: "This is just verbal manipulation that is not philosophy. I might refer to abortion henceforth as antenatal infanticide."

His image is an alteration on Haekels fraudulent drawings.

He probably thinks pharyngeal arches are gill slits too.

You murderous pro-abortionists also ignore the men and women who grow up and say they're glad they weren't aborted, who live happy and healthy lives, despite what the doctors told their parents.

All humans have a right to live at every stage of life. If you choose to end it early, and your country allows that, I guess I can't stop you. But NO ONE can decide for someone else that they shouldn't live because of reasons. That's murder.

Either get on the abortion clinic train, or open Sparta-style baby-killing pits to fling defectives into.

If you oppose Eugenics, your life is forfeit.

Spotted the marxist.

leave the government out of it and let the private sector revel in it.

Again, you are choosing whether another innocent person lives or dies based on your own arbitrary degenerate values. If you want to kill yourself, go ahead, but murdering babies just because you don't like what the doctor said is fucked


Yes goy, let murder become big business. Lets legalize hiring hitmen too

So if an unlucky circumstance arose where my wife gave birth to a mongoloid baby, then you would accept to raise that child or not? As I said, I wouldn't mind if dumb people implemented dumb policies in society as long as they carry the weight of it themselves.

Embrace the way of Sparta, legalize Infanticide (which has been practised in every country anyways up until the last hundred years aka when WWI and WWII began and the world got jewed)

It's still being practiced, just not talked about. We call it "infant death syndrome" or "crib death" or some shit now.

1000 years of dysgenic ideologies and still our biologies pull through and trend towards eugenics.

Face it murdercucks. Science is against you and any decent moral code is against you. Your only argument is the bullshit platitudes lefties spout and your own lack of ability to take responsibility for your own actions.

Down's Syndrome babbies need a national holiday dedicated to curbstomping them in the streets.


If humans shouldn't be allowed to be the arbiters of whether their offspring should live or not, you should just ban sex since nobody should have the right to create a life, only God should be allowed to spontaneously create new humans.

You chose to have the child. Once it is concieved, science and morality says it is a human life. Just because you are an immoral irresponsible cuck doesnt make it anyone elses responsibility but yours. Man the fuck up and care for your kid

God blessed them and said to them, "Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky and over every living creature that moves on the ground." Genesis 1:28

God gave humans the authority to create life.

Or are you all fucking dindus incapable of taking responsibility for your actions? Your argument says yes

Pre-Christian Europeans, who had the best morals in the world because they were White, killed their babies all the time. r/K selection m80.

You're what is called a cuckservative

Hi there schlomo

Wrong word choice, not baseless, unsubstantiated at this point.

And just because a cuck says someone has the best morals doesnt mean shit

I'm not against abortion, especially not in those cases. I think it's fucking disgusting on a visceral level, but I'm not against it. I am, however, against a federally-funded corporation that makes a profit off of selling aborted fetuses, among other reprehensible shit. Planned Parenthood needs to be defunded. If something else would like to take its place for federal gibs, that's fine, but they need to not be fucking assholes when they do. Maybe we need more stringent policies in place for federal Roe v. Wade gibs? I dunno.


I support abortion for nonwhites and for white cases where the fetus has a significant disability.

I'm trying to meet you on some middle ground here, but as we all know that's not your way. If you strongly believe dysgenics is the only moral way, then I believe you should take responsibility for that and bear the burden of it. I'd have no problem with giving you my braindead child so you could keep it on life support in your grotesque mockery of compassion.

But you want to force me to practice dysgenics because of your personal morals. Do you understand why no rational people are attracted to your ideology?

So you are saying im a nigger because im willing to take care of my child no matter what, but you aren't a nigger when you want to ditch your baby, or even murder it?

Great logic there merch

Romans did it, Greeks did it. What now, Tradcuck? Are you Christian?

You made several bullshit claims there boyo. I'll make the same point again because you dont seem to grasp it.

1: science and morality says the baby is a human life
2: you are responsible for creating that human life and responsible for caring for it.
3: man the fuck up and care for your child.

If you want to go full dindu and murder your baby, then you should face murder charges

they also fucked little boys, wtf kind of point is that? i am curious.

Get it together guys, in guerilla/racial warfare children are enemy combatants and would be massacred along with the adults a couple hundred years ago.

Wow… You really are from Holla Forums aren't you? Do you browse /cuteboys/ too? That would be very roman/greek.

Niggers are the ones whose natural reproductive strategy is to pump out as many niglets as possible. White reproduction values quality above quantity.

I can't believe you seriously oppose Eugenics. You'll hang high for poisoning our gene pool.

I agree with you. I find it extremely distasteful, but should ultimately be a family decision, not one of cults and culture. Also yes, it should be something you bear the cost of yourself if you can afford it. The industry around it is pretty disgusting too. There can be both a reverence for life and eugenics at the same time.

You poison our genepool by becoming the niggers who ditch their baby just because they cant handle responsibility. Perhaps you should be allowed to kill your baby so your stupidity gets bred out

Northern Euros (The source of the Bog meme) also practiced infanticide. It was common back then.

Pick one cuck, they are mutually exclusive. The central basis of eugenics is that a life is worth killing for your greater good utopian bullshit. That isnt a reverence for life

i hope that soon free reign is given back to the American people in the plight of removing by death people like you. abortion is murder. i hope to walk through these streets soon gunning people like you down.

the following should happen to every PRO ABORTIONIST make them suffer great inhumanities, make them rape each other at gunpoint. cut the arms off the men and use those to rape the women with. shove one of the cut off men's heads into the womens vagoo. make her cum on her comrades severed head

Status: refuted

So you're okay with our race getting more and more shitty genes passed on because your space wizard said so? Oh never mind there is no such thing as race:

This doesn't mean the fetus will survive on it's own or with medical aid. It must be transplanted in the cervix walls immediately.

Do you believe that all life is equal because killing a group of cells that will turn into a human one day is immoral? What do you do if you bleed? Those are hundreds of thousands of cells that are alive.

They literally turn into gills or bronchial supports, if the species of the embryo is unknown, you can't tell whether they will become gills or not.

Defective children are not my responsibility.

They are the 1% and even they often just say that for the cameras and do a different guy.


You right now btw are talking to a person whose entire family is dysgenic fuck-ups btw and I've been around tons of broken retards all their life. You have no idea; pretty much everyone with these problems wishes they weren't born.

And the bogs (meme or not) should be proof to you that they are fucking dumb. Just because you think murderous barbarians (see moors, berbers as well) had the best morals doesnt mean shit.

What if I'm white and my girlfriend is half asian, is our baby white?

Are you retarded? I don't care what science says. I don't worship science like it's some sort of religion. And your morals. Your morals are not universal, you braindead cretin. Your belief that human life is sacred in some strange "scientific" and moral way doesn't apply to me. People like you are the reason abortion must be kept legal, because imagine spending 18 years on resources on a son and winding up with someone like you, who can't think your way out of a box.

The central basis of eugenics is that a life is worth killing for your greater good utopian bullshit.
No it's not. That's just because you can't think outside a collectivist frame of mind (like socialists and christcucks share.) In reality it's a family matter and improving your family has beneficial ramifications on society at large. You obviously believe that every white tribe, people and civilization before the infection of semitic morality had no reverence for life. That's on you and your self-hating ass.

A disabled man who starred in an emotional TV documentary about his rare illness has been found dead after driving his electric wheelchair into a lake.

Brave Stuart Wickison, who was diagnosed with degenerative Duchenne muscular dystrophy aged three, was spotted by a child at Shinewater Park, Eastbourne, East Sussex.

The 23-year-old, who starred in the 2007 Channel Five documentary Extraordinary People: The Boy Who Will Never Grow Old, had an illness which meant his body's muscles were slowly shutting down.

Mr Wickison had began using a wheelchair aged 14 and had starred in the programme which focussed on how he dealt with the condition which only affects males.

He needed 24-hour care at Shinewater Court in Eastbourne, and had told in the programme how he 'knew he would die some time soon'.

In the programme, Stuart said: 'Of course, I go through moments of great bleakness and darkness when I think about what lies ahead, but I try not to dwell on it for too long otherwise I would go mad.

I know that I will die some time soon, and that before I die I will be very ill - possibly paralysed and in pain.'

He added: 'The issue of my death seems much more real and it is not a pleasant prospect.

'Instead, I think about how I want to live in the time I have left. I want to make my mark, to have achieved something. I have my art, my music and have just started at university.

'These are all things that I take great pride in and that make my quality of life so much better than if I just gave up, sat in a corner and waited to die.'

A spokesman for the Shinewater centre said: 'Stuart was a highly intelligent and artistic young man who will sorely be missed by all.'

The Disabilities Trust, which runs the centre, added: 'We are all devastated by Stuart's death. Our hearts go out to his family and friends.'

A Sussex police spokesman said: Stuart Wickison, a 23-year-old man from Milfoil Drive, Eastbourne, was found in Shinewater Park, Eastbourne, last Tuesday.

'Police are not treating the death as suspicious. An inquest will be opened and adjourned within the next week.'

Mr Wickison's parents, David and Mandy Wickison, were unavailable for comment.

When someone is really sick and they say hurr durr I'm glad for life and all that sappy bullshit for the media, it's all bullshit, and these people in their private lives often contemplate suicide and discuss it with others (if they aren't complete vegetables anyways)

So you don't like the idea of killing fags? Are you also opposed to Niggerdeath because it would be 'barbaric'? Why are you even on Holla Forums if you value human life so much?

So because murder is wrong according to your Rabbi, you want to murder murderers? Makes sense.

That's the issue. That right there. There shouldn't be an "abortion industry" to begin with.

Sparing a child a life of misery by mercy killing it before it has a change to stretch its legs, literally and metaphorically, is arguably a reverence for life.

so what, we have barbarous raiders and gay southerners who committed abortion, how should that sway me.

Catholic here. Sodomites should be thrown in bogs.

Killing pigs is more 'murder" than killing new-born infants.

It is extremely fucking cruel that you should force a sickly individual into life so that after years of torment they commit suicide. It's extremely sick that you think that's the appropriate way to handle this and that it wouldn't be more ethical to destroy the sick baby before it reaches a level of conscious self-awareness beyond that of a dog or a pig.

Functioning pain receptors don't mean anything btw, if causing any amount of pain was unethical, we would not stick needles in other people or perform surgery or do many other things because it causes some pain. The inconvenience of a few seconds of pain (which the underdeveloped mind of the baby can't even assign any real significance since it has no self-concept, no idea of a "self" that is being "pained") is far better than the endless torment of years and years and years of suffering ending with driving your wheelchair into a lake.

nope. Restrict that and normal contraception while we're at it. This is why you're going extinct.
persons that will resort to abortions will not let legality block them.

Well hey, if you're Anti-White, you shoulda told me. Are you saying those damn dirty White apes needed to be civilised by somebody else?

Being disabled means having no dignity, having no GF, shitting and pissing and vomiting on yourself, mental issues, meaningless life, burden, guilt, and so many other bad fucking things no sentient should be forced to go through.

Hell is being a bed-ridden cripple who suffers day in and day out for years because people with a skewed ethics think death is a bad thing; these same people profess that death brings you to heaven.


That's how it is with collectivists. They try to enforce good and end up doing evil. The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

ok im done with the abortion argument. A new level of fucking retard has reared its ugly head.

Holy shit you are retarded. I change my mind about abortion and now believe you should be aborted for the good of mankind.

Follow the colors retard, maybe then that stupid brain of yours will realize how asinine reading wikipedia was. No self respecting scientist calls pharyngeal folds "gill slits" because the have NOTHING TO DO WITH BREATHING. And no self respecting scientist would post haekels faked drawings.

Persia did nothing wrong.

Persia was White.

Woah, no shit?

You know what my christcuck parents "taking responsibility looks like"?

One bed-ridden vegetable that shits and pisses itself and according to doctors the insides are twisting and he would be in chronic pain constantly as there's internal-bleeding. Still hasn't fucking died but smells like death, shits and pisses and vomits itself every day, and this has gone one for about 27 years I think. Huge amounts of money from the government wasted to keep this charade going. I'd take him off of the breathing machine myself if my christcuck parents wouldn't absolutely freak the fuck out and possibly kill me for it. I feel like christcucks are more willing to neglect and kill off their comparatively healthy offspring than to stop forcing their nearly dead vegetable child to live. I fucking hate your disgusting, perverse, christcuck "morality".

Man the fuck and mercifully cull the sick rather than let them suffer for years just to die anyways in a pool of their own filth with no dignity whatsoever.

Abortionists, you win. The dumbfuck pushing haekel and recapitulation theory did it for me. He is too stupid to live.

Ye, and guess what? Those 'boyfucking' Greeks conquered Persia.

They didn't stay long. Are you Greek yourself? Why taking it so personal?

Live out that ideology of yours. Do it

God, the real God, is an absolute power responsible for everything. The real god is why cannibalism, murder, and everything "bad" happens as well as everything "good". The real god has put these thoughts in my mind that I should oppose your faggotry, and also is responsible for making you a huge faggot. God is a fucking troll and his only real commandment is that you will do as he wills; and that all is his Will.

Ok achmed

So I get killed or go to jail for my parent's mistake? Fuck no. My entire life has been fucking miserable thanks to them, I just want to get away from them and this hell. I am going to continue to advocate for infanticide though and try to change the government in my country so it becomes legal and mandatory for such cases.

I'm not taking it personally. I'm just pointing out that we're descendants of those savage White apes that killed their babies, and not the Persians.

So you are too much of a pussy to actually live out that ideology of yours.

Your god is not Omnisicient, Omnipresent, Absolute, Eternal, Infinite, Uncaused, or in any way worthy of the title of God.

Your god is nothing but a shitty egregore the jewish kabbalists created to control the goyim so they could harvest their loosh.

Iran is whiteopia on earth, a hidden gem that has only been slightly sullied by roaming arab/turk/ZOG/greasy greek forces. As the direct descendants of the Naacal from the atlantaean continent, their race formed the earliest historically attested civilization on earth. They invented anime (pic related), never practiced slavery, and are by and large the only force preventing total world kike control. Their erisian civilization is one of the greatest in the world, but kike lies and their own fabrications prevent unwanted immigration

When did I say they form gills on humans? You clearly have a very low reading comprehension. FISH fish develop gills form pharyngeal arches. HUMANS develop bronchial supports from pharyngeal arches.

When did I say Häkel was right? I posted a fucking picture of a stage in the embryonic development of four animals. I never said

Oy vey! The mudslime is triggered!

stopped reading

If I'm going to kill retards then I'll go one of the special-ed places where there's huge groups of them and I'll kill ALL of them and try to beat Breivik's highscore and then sit in jail.

Not worth wasting away my life, all my redpill knowledge, all my potential to change the world just to correct the mistake of my own parents.


I'm not some kind of retarded semite-religion worshipper, that would be you. You by being a Christian are more of a mudslime.

Ar you saying you're not White?

On the contrary.

Best pro-life argument: Being pro-life spites OP.
Best pro-death argument: If OP was aborted this shitty thread would not exist.

They dont develop into brocheal supports you absolute cretin.

And you posted a redraw of haekels fraudulent drawings, drawings which Stephen Gould called the equivalent of scientific murder, which haekel used to support his retarded theory

Then you descend from practitioners of infanticide.

Damn… I can't top that.



Instead of being vague and mysterious, tell us straight out which white people that never practiced infanticide you descend from and which ethnicity you are.

So you're not a spaghetti eater or a Northern Euro. Slav?


Any kind of disability, even a so called "isignificant one", is life-crippling if it stays with you forever. If it's something temporary that can be fixed, then great, but imagine living your whole life with a speech impediment or looking really ugly or whatever; your life is destined for >>>/v9k/

eh, ok

There are niggers and also chimpanzees that cling on even to the dead corpses of their children trying to take them with them everywhere. That's what you are, a fucking nigger/chimp. They carry their dead baby around with them as it rots.

Higher evolved beings have developed higher concepts like "mercy" and "just because it's a living mess of flesh, doesn't mean it's an actual person".

Kill yourself kike.

I'm actual fucking philosophy student and you don't know shit about ethics/morality.

PDF related is Science & Morality telling you the baby is not a "person" in the proper and full sense of that term.

To accept a baby as a person, is to begin to assign personhood to dolphins, chimps, pigs, dogs, and cats; something retarded liberals are actually trying to do right now.

Okay than please post what Human embryonic development looks like. Because as everyone is saying that it is wrong, I am starting to become very worried that what I was taught in high school biology was entirely wrong.

Yes, you are right, I jumped the gun and misread the article, my apologies.

Go away Jesus, you're drunk.








The christ cucks need to take the judeo out of their judeo-christian ass before they go on about moral and ethical high grounds.

White abortion should be massively restricted.

But you're right. Black abortion should be just short of mandatory for all women.

I think this "man is like an animal" philosophy of modern marxist universities is pretty much as degenerate as christcucks. Instead of trying to create feminine convoluted ways of justifying shit, just admit for yourself that yes, a human baby is a human too and aborting it is still not wrong.

Say goodbye to blowjobs and anal from your wife then.

I don't think that's a problem here.

Fucking kikes, the lot of you.

Kill yourself sodomite.
The mouth is not intended as a semen or penis depository you fucking kike.

You need to be eradicated with efficiency. No torture, no sadism, none of that bullshit. You just need to die quick and fast so your mentality doesn't continue to spread and enable the worst suffering on this Earth.

Yeah, that's pretty much the situation today. The only ones with any cultural presence that oppose abortion in western societies today are christcucks and islam.

Sure, there might be outliers like you who are just low intelligence subhumans on the degeneracy train, but you're not really representative of anything.


They are also the only communities impervious to the fertility crisis. They are protected from the secular humanist zeitgiest of depopulation.
For example, Japan loses over 100,000 future citizens a year due to abortion.

Fuck off slimy steinbeck.

Yes. Yes it is.

Japan has no problems. They will survive just fine as a people being a bit fewer. No crisis there. Just like the west, remove immigrants and there is no problem at all.

It's like the story of almost every single other family dealing with the same shit. The medical journals, the statistics, the reports on dysfunctional families, etc. ALL support this. You freaks ignore all the evidence though in favour of some stupid propaganda.

YOU KNOW WHAT? I've seen the propaganda in production.

This is how it goes. They come with photography equipment. They find the most aesthetic downy or other retards they can in the class. They spend hours and hours taking pictures with them, trying to get them to stop drooling and sucking their thumbs or trying to get a picture where their eyes aren't crossed or looking in two directions, After hours and hours of this they then go into photoshop to further clean it up. Then they spin this into some feels-good documentary for christ-cucks to eat up and listen to a downy say his life is ok, when he was coached for hours and hours to say the particular lines they wanted for the propaganda.


You don't know what it's like dealing with this shit. You don't have a disabled child in your family. You aren't personally affected by this. You haven't grown up having to come along with your parents to pick up the vegetable from the special-ed class after school. You haven't smelt the stench of vomit, piss, and shit every single day fill the room. You don't know what it's like to gag as your parents change his adult diapers every day. You don't know what it's like to be posting here on this board, and hearing the weird croaking and freakish retard noises from your vegetable brother. You don't know what it's like to hear your insane christcuck parents scream at you and hit you because you aren't doing a good enough job acting and pretending everything is OK. You don't know what it's like to hear your parents tell you when you say "if I become even half-that-bad, I want to be euthanised" and they say they will NEVER EVER DO THAT thus making me afraid that next time I try to commit suicide, if I fuck it up, I'll become a vegetable like that. You don't know what it's like to go over to one of your neighbour's house with legal documents you got, signing them, and making sure that he will represent me and not my parents if I ever end up in a cripple state and need the plug pulled. You have no fucking idea of anything. You are healthy and have a healthy family. You should have to grow up living with this shit.

No Civilization has ever reversed sterile level birth rates, this isn't a casual contraction.


But then again, maybe our current civilization shouldn't really survive either. Rome fell, but the best of it's peoples descendants are still around. Still, it's hard to compare earlier civilizations that were closer to land and nature, more regulated my natural cycles, and the situation today where a huge mass of dysgenic freaks are kept alive by our discoveries during the enlightenment. We're a bit in uncharted territories here.

Did I trigger you? I really cannot tell if this is just high level trolling or you're just a fucking nigger. (This is clear nigger/spic mentality.)

I miss the old days when Holla Forums consisted of autists who knew how to use science and statistics to make their point. I blame the massive amount of fundie-paleocons that have invaded.

Do you not believe that there are tons of mentally or physically fucked up people in the world which are a drain on their families or society? Do you honestly think this just a once in a blue moon occurrence? There's fucking tons of it you just don't see it everyday because they are typically kept in special homes/facilities.

Also anal and blowjobs from your wife being bad. Better get back to lights-out missionary position goys!

Kill yourself kike.

Kill yourself kike.

Fuck you nigger, your personal problems should not hold any weight whatsoever on policy.

lol nice try jew

I didn't say it would survive on its own, did I?
Read some Aquinas: Doctrine of Double Effect, pleb.

Cripples and retards are a tiny minority, jew. More normal, healthy babies are killed by abortion than there are cripples and retards.
Suckstart a shotgun.

Why is it that you westboro baptist retards look more dysgenic than what you see in a shelter full of white drug addicts and prostitutes? Makes you think, doesn't it.

Humans < Pigs. You fucking degenerate.

Poor baby, you're this triggered because you can't kill white children while promoting bestiality with niggers.

A human baby is a human only in the sense it's a member of the species.

It is not however a Person.

This is not convoluted, this is not mental gymnatics, this is ancient philosophy that has been around forever and pertains to why animals and humans are not of equivalent worth.

Some want to believe they are of equivalent worth, that a fucking dog or niglet deserves the to have the same value assign to it as a healthy white child but it's not like that.

A baby is like an animal. A 6 year old however is recognizable as a person, having a concept of self, being able to think about the future and the past, etc.


Niggers & abbos need to be re-classified as wild fauna.

Why do you christcucks always lie so much? What is it with your cult that makes you lie all the time? Please quote the post where I "promote bestiality with niggers." Don't you know that when you lie, the desert spirit sends demons to attach themselves to you. Do you really want all this demon infestation in your life?


True. Still a human has more value than a pig at any level, because humans are fucking special. That's a spiritual thing, not something of material science. But that still doesn't make abortion or infanticide wrong.


Stop defending your sacrifices of children to moloch you filthy kike.

Another moloch worshipper spotted.


lul, you know only christcucks care about moloch, rite cuck?

The kike reveals himself again.

ProTip for you: amish DO practice abortion and infanticide for unhealthy offspring and I know this because I live around them every day and talk with them and have heard stories of it, and unlike you, they don't have this bitchy attitude about it but are very matter of fact about it

Meanwhile the rest of Christianity has below replacement birth-rates.

e.g. of one story, I was outside the cattle-yard talking with an Amish man and an Italian, and he was telling us this story about having to pry-out a baby that really late in the pregnancy and kill it because it had some problems and he wasn't going to deal with that shit – wasn't genetic from what I remember, but something happened to damage the baby in the womb by accident

Also this kind of abortion was/is illegal in my province, but that doesn't really matter, Amish pretty much live under a different law than the rest of society (kind of like the Native Americans who also live under a different law).

M-muh moloch. No one cares about whether your desert spirit or some other semites desert spirit is the best desert spirit.

In the United States intellectual disability defined by having an (IQ of under 70) affects about 2–3% of the general population. That doesn't sound like a tiny minority, but obviously more healthy fetuses are killed. I have said nothing against not allowing abortion in cases where healthy wholesome individuals could be produced, just advocated for mercy killing when they cannot.

Making abortion illegal means families who end up with a cripple retard become dysfunctional and poor, stop having additional children, and the children they do have get neglected and stressed and so on.

Letting abortion be legal so they can cull the retard means they can go on to have 15 more children who are all healthy and can contribute to running the household and so on.

Is their attitude that it is like husbandry for humans?

Kill yourself kike.


Strawman. It should be mandatory for all families to cull the sickly infants and abort the fetuses showing developmental problems. It should also be mandatory that if the child is healthy, they keep it, and if they don't want it then a certain amount of time is given to find some parents that would adopt it otherwise it's aborted because we don't need more children that nobody wants to raise.

Healthy wanted children = kept
Unwanted healthy children = optionally aborted
Sickly children = mandatory cull

You're ignoring everything else I have posted in this thread.

Are you a troll or a retard?

That tiny minority is still a tremendous burden on society and Adolf Hitler had them culled in National Socialist Germany.

Why are you going against the wisdom of Adolf Hitler?

and why are you strawmanning, acting as if only two policies the mainstream media presents can possibly exist for abortion, and not any others that are eugenics-based?

Healthy adult humans > Pigs > Babies > Semen

Fact it. A pig is more sentient than a baby.

You lost. Though you can screech as loud as you like, you lost.


Hey man don't talk shit about the Westboro Baptist Church, I used to be part of their group, like literally included in their inner-circle because I constantly spouted god hates fags and opposed faggotry and used all their same talking points while still having my own views which just happen to be in agreement about them on core issues. Anyways my time in the WBC taught me; they are master trolls and secretly discordians. Hail Eris!


Not it does not. A healthy baby has more POTENTIAL VALUE than a pig; and an unhealthy baby that is never going to develop to a stage where it obtains the consciousness of a 3 year old effectively has LESS value than a pig. Also a baby that has developmental issues that make it unable to use its body properly to walk and eat and so on, is in that way of less value than a pig that can do that.

Tell me, what sets man apart from the fauna?

It's his higher level of consciousness. That's what makes him unique in the animal kingdom. It's what makes him divine, makes him more than just an animal that merely goes through life, having no self-concept, no memories, no ability to think about the future; nothing to make its existence meaningful rather than merely instinctual.

A baby does NOT have the consciousness that defines the human species. That does not develop until awhile later.

I will agree with you that a healthy human baby has POTENTIAL VALUE but not that it has ACTUAL VALUE exceeding that of a pig.

When the potential value of a human baby is missing because of health problems, it's effectively worthless, and might as well be turned into compost or fed to pigs.






Your entire argument started with a neurotic redtext post screeching about how your family in particular had one cripple kid and how that should affect policy everywhere. Based on that kid and how you post, it's pretty clear you have shit genetics and are autistically screeching to get your way.

Strictly speaking, it's not a certain age btw, but just like with age of consent we should define a rough age like '5 years old" for it. Because not everyone develops at the same rate, person-hood is not achieved at the same time for everyone.

A Person is able to think about their self and assign value to their existence.

A baby, an infant, it is human only in the biological sense. It is not Human in the philosophical or cognitive sense. It is a Potential Human or Potential Person so long as that potential isn't stamped out by some health issues.

Potential Persons should not be treated as morally equivalent with Actual Persons. If you break into a car that is sinking underwater, you have a knife on you and can cut the seat-belt of one occupant and get out with them but not two, and there's a baby in the car and his father who is 25 year old who should you save? You should save the father. He can make another baby. The father represents 25 years of investment, time, upbringing; so much has gone into bringing that man to where he is and he contributes to society. His value is far greater than the baby, which could die from any of countless stupid causes that regularly killed babies all the time, and which will has not had anywhere near the same investment in him.

Potential Persons should however be valued far more than INVALIDS. An invalid is the term we use for someone who will never be a potential person. They are fucked up. They ought to be culled, plain and simple.

We should have laws that are smart enough to treat Actual Persons, Potential Persons, and Invalids differently. Killing an Invalid is not morally equivalent to killing a Potential Person which is not morally equivalent to killing an Actual Person.

t. Philosophy Pro

I once evoked Moloch before and we didn't get along too well btw so I wouldn't exactly call myself a worshipper of that ancient demon.

No it didn't, click on my ID in this thread, and start reading my posts from the first one. My argument was just one of many posted in here. Your argument is just screeching that I should be killed for having smarter more refined views than yours and repeatedly screeching that a fetus has moral equivalence with healthy adult humans. You're an egalitarian who thinks every invalid is the same worth as the ubermensch that made it possible for you to post on a computer and have a functional society.


Skirt measuring faggot.

Humans have sex for pair bonding, stress release and exercise, among other things.

Degenerate kike, it is for reproduction only.

what would prevent hungover sluts from crying rape once they discover they're pregnant from their boyfriend? plenty of false rape claims have already been made, i can see this happening even more if they can't get abortions otherwise

You're going into the gas chamber.

some spine and a shotgun wedding

"At one time the Spartans were capable of such a wise measure, but not our present, mendaciously sentimental, bourgeois patriotic nonsense. The rule of six thousand Spartans over three hundred and fifty thousand Helots was only thinkable in consequence of the high racial value of the Spartans. But this was the result of a systematic race preservation; thus Sparta must be regarded as the first Völkisch State. The exposure of sick, weak, deformed children, in short their destruction, was more decent and in truth a thousand times more humane than the wretched insanity of our day which preserves the most pathological subject, and indeed at any price, and yet takes the life of a hundred thousand healthy children in consequence of birth control or through abortions, in order subsequently to breed a race of degenerates burdened with illnesses." - As translated in Hitler's Secret Book (1961) Grove Press edition, pp. 8-9, 17-18












Oy vey, this must be anudda shoah for you.

Infants are human in the biological sense but not in the cognitive and philosophical sense.

They only potential humans.

That's what you are. You think that every single life, no matter how shitty it is, no matter how defective, is equally worthy of being preserved. You're a fucking egalitarian.

This is called a strawman, substituting a bullshit argument in place of what the other person is actually saying.

It's not without reason, it is very relevant, because what makes a human special is his level of conscious development. If humans were as stupid as regular animals, they could be farmed by some other species and consumed for their meat, and it wouldn't fucking matter because they aren't sentient anyways. We are however sentient.

Babies though; they are NOT sentient. At most they have that potential.


Adolf Hitler did nothing wrong.


They are more important than human infants who are brainless sissy retards.

They are less important than healthy human infants.

In my personal case, it was due to a medical procedure being fucked up by a doctor, causing my mother's firstborn child to be born months prematurely; which severely damaged him. Not a genetic issue.

They are not humans in the cognitive/philosophical sense when they have not developed those attributes yet which uniquely set humans apart from the rest of the fauna.

Killing invalid babies does not prevent them from ever developing; they are invalid. They, because of their problems, will never develop.

Healthy children with the potential to develop into humans should be kept.

Every single post of yours is strawmans, saging, and retardation. I am BTFOing you with every single post.


Yes that is EXACTLY their attitude. Such comparisons were even made in that conversation. They live around animals all the time, breed them, and apply the same principles to themselves.

When I say unhealthy children should be culled and you say that I am saying all children should be culled, that's a strawman.

Straw man

A straw man is a common form of argument and is an informal fallacy based on giving the impression of refuting an opponent's argument, while actually refuting an argument that was not advanced by that opponent.'

Also not everything you've said is a strawman, though each of your posts typically includes at least one strawman, and I'm calling you out on it for each time you use one.

You realize that the cult of moloch basically just took dead babies and burned them for him? That anyone who has their body cremated in a sense is doing what Moloch wants (though to be more exact, if really would only be a tribute to moloch, if it actually coincided with the sacrificer intending the corpse be burned for moloch).

I've never asked you to leave me alone. I just want to see how many times you can keep responding to me like a total retard and hope other people are seeing this thread, seeing my rational arguments, then seeing your retardation and realizing I'm right.

Oh god, you're one of those fags. I've been spacing out my posts like this forever and I'm not going to stop for you now that "reddit spacing" has recently become a meme in the last year.


This thread is apparently bumplocked so there's no point in denouncing your obvious bullshit over & over any further, you're either completely irrational, or you full-well understand what I am saying is true but are promoting this anti-abortion shit to cripple the nation.



You are fucking retarded if you think that accidents of genetics don't fucking happen sometimes. Perfect example is Palin's fucking family. She has plenty of normal children but still has a retard. Why don't you look up however the divorce rates pre-00's of families who had severely disabled or retarded children? Only a cuck to the well being of society and genetics wants us to keep the diseased.
We are ALL FOR keeping healthy children.

Forget abortion we need gas chambers

Only reason chinks have a higher average intelligence on IQ tests is they kill their retards while we don't.

All our retards we keep around are lowering our average- IQ. Whites have far more geniuses.

No, they aren't. Definition of life:
1. It has to respire.
2. It has to divide and reproduce.
A zygote is the first step which does both things, and it does so with an entirely new genome.

Ergo life begins at conception.

No I just ask for a good reason to kill someone. A murderer who killed someone has to be killed because he is too dangerous for society, he gets the chair for good reason.

If you want to kill a child that never hurt anybody, you better have a good reason for it.

And no "I got drunk" is not a good reason.