Do you guys think certain spook can be useful? I mean...

Do you guys think certain spook can be useful? I mean, Stirner would probably think class is a spook yet the vast majority of the people on here would acknowledge that class is of the utmost importance for a material analysis of society.

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islamic gommunist bro is a stirnerist? Nice

The recognition of an idea/institution as a spook and willingness to abandon it if it does not serve one's self interest was moreso the intent of Stirner's remarks on the matter rather than "abandon all spooks ye who enter here."

The case can be made that society and all manner of political/social structure is a spook, but that doesn't mean it cannot serve one's individual purpose. For example, as a member of the working class living in a capitalist society where the power over myself and my surrounding world is marginalized and siphoned, it is in my self interest to associate with other working class members to overturn those conditions. Socialism in that case serves as a useful praxis to achieve the desired change. However, as it goes with all forms of ideology, it would be itself a spook by Stirner's logic.

Nah i am no stirnerfag
Because i think that radical egoism is a passive mode of self-indulgence and anti history

There is not a spook that can be useful.
Have you ever read any Striner?

All actions we take attempt to serve our goals, which are all based on what pleases us.

Even altruism is the fulfillment of a subjective value whose fulfillment pleases the altruist, and if you made an attempt to defy this principle it would be to heal your ego.

Justice is a useful idea. It only becomes a "spook" when it becomes such an all consuming idea that it possesses you like the cop from Les Miserables (Jauvert?)

I think Stirner would draw line between class as a fixed idea and analysis of class as it relates to the means of production.

You need to use nation state to achive socialist goals. So, nationalism is a useful spook.

Nope, justice is completely spooky. Preventing rape and murder isn't spooky as that improves your life, but justice is more about good feelings and oppressing people than any sort of material benefit.

If you start going about using spooks, then it's not a spook but your property, at least for you. However they're still spooks in the sense of other people still worshipping them.
For the class example, it depends of what does it represents. Wanting to abolish it makes hardly something you ought to serve. promoting some prole identity on the other hand…

I saw Max Stirner at a milk shop in Berlin yesterday. I told him how cool it was to meet him in person, but I didn’t want to be a douche and bother him and ask him for photos or anything.

He said, “Oh, like you’re doing now?”

I was taken aback, and all I could say was “Huh?” but he kept cutting me off and going “huh? huh? huh?” and closing his hand shut in front of my face. I walked away and continued with my shopping, and I heard him chuckle as I walked off. When I came to pay for my stuff up front I saw him trying to walk out the doors with like fifteen bottles in his hands without paying.

The girl at the counter was very nice about it and professional, and was like “Sir, you need to pay for that property first.” At first he kept pretending to be tired and not hear her, but eventually turned back around and brought them to the counter.

When she took one of the bars and started scanning it multiple times, he stopped her and told her to scan them each individually “to prevent any begeistenheit,” and then turned around and winked at me. I don’t even think that’s a word. After she scanned each bar and put them in a bag and started to say the price, he kept interrupting her by yawning really loudly.

I will fucking gut you pieces of trash if you try to tell Muslims that Islam is a spook. You can take your white brocialist bullshit and fucking impale yourselves on it.

(You)

This is almost certainly not what people mean by egoism though.

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class is not a spook.

Do you even know what a spook is?
Because class is not a spook in any way.

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"Spook" what a stupid concept.. If enough people or the right people believe something they'll make it part of your life whether you like it or not.

you sound spooked my property

What a great defense of your absurd concept! Now if you had enough power you could force me to pay at least symbolic tribute to your absurd notion, but you don't.

Unlike the Aztec priests who believed that human sacrifice was necessary to make crops grow. A totally absurd notion that gave them of the power of life and death for centuries.

and their system was not defeated by trying to dismiss it,, it was defeated and replaced by men with the power to impose their own "spooks" that gave them authority.

Calm down my property, your spooks are showing.

and you refuse to do your symbolic act of submission to the state. Historically, that could get in trouble. Spooks are power. Use it.