THE UNBELIEVABLE GWENPOOL!

Dylan Sanchez
Dylan Sanchez

GET READY FOR MEMES!

Plus subversion of said memes and good art by Gurihiru

Austin Foster
Austin Foster

Gwenpool #1 had not one, not two, not three, but fucking six variant covers.

The fucking cancer killing the industry right there.

Hunter Gomez
Hunter Gomez

We start off with a terribly drawn prologue.

Anthony Cook
Anthony Cook

I dont get why Marvel refuses to sexualize her yet they do that with Deadpool all the time., and dont say she's a teenager or that shit, I mean just look at Power Pack for fuck's sake!!
I hate this Nu-Marvel…Where is the…Ha!!…where is the…equality.

Xavier Butler
Xavier Butler

Ok, now we get to the good stuff.

Gurihiru Gwenpool doesn't need to be sexualized. She gives you a boner … in your heart.

John Richardson
John Richardson

I'm quite satisfied with those short shorts she wears in civvies.

Elijah Clark
Elijah Clark

last pic
I see the local diversity doesn't like funs.

Benjamin Diaz
Benjamin Diaz

Gwenpool #1 ends with sidekick dead.

Juan Gray
Juan Gray

Are you going to go all the way up to the latest issue, user? This comic kinda goes to shit whenever they bring in alternate artists for crossovers, but the last few issues have been all Gurihiru art, and a pretty wild ride on top of that.

Benjamin Bennett
Benjamin Bennett

Absolute trash

Lincoln Hernandez
Lincoln Hernandez

This.

Grayson Reyes
Grayson Reyes

In Gwenpool #2, Gwen begins her life as a henchmen.

Gwenpool
absolute trash
when America is still being published

Somebody's feeling edgy tonight.

Christopher Lopez
Christopher Lopez

Fine, they're both trash.

Carter Fisher
Carter Fisher

You gonna elaborate on that, or are you gonna leave it as "just cus'"?

Grayson Kelly
Grayson Kelly

Gwenpool #2 ends with Batroc revealing that he knows Gwen Poole is a fucking fraud.

Mason Lewis
Mason Lewis

Gwenpool #3 opens up with Gwen revealing that's she's just a big nerd from another dimension.

Lucas Hughes
Lucas Hughes

That's some deep shit, Batroc.

Jack Campbell
Jack Campbell

Whoops, I'm a page ahead.

I like that you can schedule appointments to see Dr. Strange.

Benjamin Nelson
Benjamin Nelson

Gwenpool #3 closes with Gwen finally being able to open a bank account in the Marvel Universe! However, in doing so she jeopardizes her current employment.

Zachary Green
Zachary Green

It's trash because Gwenpool is trash, both as a comic, character, and concept.

Angel Barnes
Angel Barnes

Sometimes I wonder if immunity to fall damage and firearm talent are sub-powers that come with being a costumed hero.

Tyler Cruz
Tyler Cruz

Gwenpool is the perfect example of a modern "wasted potential" superhero. She could have been written off as a goofy superhero-wannabe with a heart of gold who grows to be a real responsible superhero, but instead she's written off as she-deadpool. Edgy meme-spouting "cool" girl going on random adventures killing sprees while giving cheap promo to other Marvel heroes. What a waste.

Zachary Perry
Zachary Perry

Why do you post in a storytime you're not reading?

Brandon Carter
Brandon Carter

I was planning on reading these comics at some point, theyre fun

Jonathan Powell
Jonathan Powell

someone thinks differently than me
must have not read the comic

Cameron Stewart
Cameron Stewart

Edgy meme-spouting "cool" girl going on random adventures killing sprees while giving cheap promo to other Marvel heroes.
<I didn't actually read the comic because I'm afraid it'll pollute muh brain

Jose Nguyen
Jose Nguyen

Please explain the downfalls of this comic as a fan of it.

Levi Wood
Levi Wood

You dumped a hot load of bullshit that didn't happen in the comic, fam. That kinda makes people think you didn't read the comic.

please daddy spoonfeed me

Why are you in this thread?

Connor Reed
Connor Reed

Came in to cut the bullshit surrounding it. Looking to get my niece into comics, but haven't read it. Was my only comment btw

Camden Bailey
Camden Bailey

unbelievable

Michael Collins
Michael Collins

Deadpool is actually good, user.

Kayden Morgan
Kayden Morgan

Whenever the art isn't by Gurihiru, the writing goes completely to shit for reasons nobody's been able to fully figure out. Additionally, the way Gwen herself is written can be a bit jarring sometimes, like her complete disregard for the lives of background characters and insistence that they're not real people. She's supposed to be a normal person who hopped out of her own universe and into a comic book, but she definitely doesn't act like a normal person.

Jordan Perry
Jordan Perry

Thanks user. Might still be ok with a talk beforehand. What's with the SJW rumors? I keep hearing it but haven't seen it. Paranoid overly sensitive faggots just kvetching?

Zachary Bell
Zachary Bell

Thanks user

Bentley Hall
Bentley Hall

Well, we did establish in her origin that IRL she is a complete aspie.

Charles Garcia
Charles Garcia

Do you care about the lives of the randos when you play GTA?

Brayden Gutierrez
Brayden Gutierrez

This
Gwen is a borderline neet. The only thing keeping from going full hikimori is that she got a job as a test subject. Then again, I really wouldn't call that a job, which would make her a neet.

Whenever the art isn't by Gurihiru
That's because Girihiru gives her charm. Most of the other Marvel artists are complete hacks and shouldn't be anywhere near comic books. There's also a particular writer that pairs with Girihiru and he actually knows how to write fun stories that aren't tumblr-retarded. His name is Christopher Hastings.

Ayden King
Ayden King

cynocephali
NONE OF THEM HAVE A DOG MASK
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Carter Hughes
Carter Hughes

Well this got storytimed here before but its nice to read again. Thanks OP.

Isaac Russell
Isaac Russell

Somebody's feeling edgy tonight.
Nobody's saying it's as bad as America, but the writing and characters still aren't good. The comic isn't good, it's just less bad.

Austin Gray
Austin Gray

What's with the SJW rumors? I keep hearing it but haven't seen it. Paranoid overly sensitive faggots just kvetching?
Whenever she's in a book that isn't her own ongoing, she goes the same as the rest of Marvel characters.

Caleb Mitchell
Caleb Mitchell

she goes the same as the rest of Marvel characters.

No, she goes worse. The rest of Marvel characters don't make a joke about breaking the fourth wall once per page, after all.

Asher Diaz
Asher Diaz

Gwenpool #4 opens up with Gwen finding a mentor in Batroc the Leaper. She apparently has a knack for firearms. A knack that only exists if the target is stationary, she is also stationary, and she has plenty of time to aim.

Girihiru's art on page 4 makes my heart hurt. It's the kind of art that makes you want to get better at whatever you do.

There are three major problems with Gwenpool, and I'll list them in descending order.

3. There are too many cross-overs. First we had Whor, soon we'll have Miles Spider-Man. While it tapers off after #10 and Hastings handles it well, it reeks of editorial mandate.

2. Any issue where they get fill-in artists is the worst. Girihiru is possibly the only artists working at Marvel that are actually good. Their work fits the feel that Hastings is going for, and when they get other artists it feels disgusting and cringy.

1. The major problem with Gwenpool is the difference between what Hastings is writing her as and what Marvel is selling her as. Hastings is mostly writing her as a self-aware, fourth-wall breaking character, while Marvel is selling her as "LOLMEMES". This marketing direction is the biggest detriment to the series, as it turns people off of a pretty enjoyable comic.

Tyler Baker
Tyler Baker

Gwenpool #4 closes with Gwen becoming the boss. I think.

John Green
John Green

Honestly its very cute artwork masking mediocre, to bad writing.

Imagine this drawn by the Squirrel girl person.

Luke Turner
Luke Turner

IT'S A GHOST! ACTIVATE GHOST DEFENSE.
<THAT DOES NOT EXIST.

James Ward
James Ward

Next three issues, the dark ages of gwenpool.

Dylan Hernandez
Dylan Hernandez

It's Gwenpool #5, and befitting a team up with nigger/spic Spider-Man, the art is done by a lazy fill-in artist.

Kevin Edwards
Kevin Edwards

I might be wrong, but I think editorial is to blame for this.

Jordan Ortiz
Jordan Ortiz

4th Pic
That Daredevil quote

Ian Turner
Ian Turner

Looking at the art, for a moment I thought it was one the artists from Serenity the Christian manga.

Then I looked it up and was disappointed.

Josiah Johnson
Josiah Johnson

Issue #5 closes with squid aliens out for revenge.

Parker Adams
Parker Adams

Issue #6 and Girihiru is still MIA.

Luke Torres
Luke Torres

Issue #6 and Girihiru is still MIA.
You can tell that Irene Strychalski was trying her hardest to imitate Gurihiru's style, trying to make her art look poppy and lively, but she fails miserably.

Nolan Sanders
Nolan Sanders

Gwen's quirkiness lands her in JAIL.

Landon Moore
Landon Moore

Issue #6 closes with Gwen realizing she isn't having fun anymore.

Bentley Phillips
Bentley Phillips

Strychalski shouldn't draw Gwen without her mask. It becomes very obvious its not Girihiru.

Jordan Evans
Jordan Evans

pic 4
remind you of anything?

Nolan Cooper
Nolan Cooper

GWENPOOL #7 AND GIRIHIRU IS BACK BITCHES!

The squid alien guys invade to get their revenge against Gwenpoolpig. The squid aliens really can't tell species apart.

Carter Cruz
Carter Cruz

Gwenpig is best girl.

Though some might have a kneejerk reaction, what Gwen says is true. The squid aliens are, indeed, racist. All earth species look the same to them.

While the aliens go pig wrestling, Gwen goes to meet with MODOK's mysterious client.

Ian Davis
Ian Davis

It seems Grandpa client simply wants peace and quiet.

By any means necessary.

Noah Sullivan
Noah Sullivan

Issue #7 closes with Gwen's past coming back to bite her in the ass.

Blake Roberts
Blake Roberts

Gwenpool #8. Cops are in league with squid alien arms dealers. Gwen is on the run. The mercenaries need work. And we get new goth waifu bait.

Connor Gutierrez
Connor Gutierrez

If only comics could afford more artists like Girihiru. They could save the entire industry.

Logan Gomez
Logan Gomez

This shit is cute.

Luis Allen
Luis Allen

Gwen finishes laying out her plan to get the aliens off their back, only for her crew to point out how reckless and dangerous it is to deprive all of New York of their emergency services. Gwen tells them it'll be fine because "it's a comic book".

Of course, nothing is fine. Her crew gets captured by aliens, and their client betrays them.

Ryan Thomas
Ryan Thomas

Issue #8 closes with
DOOM

Christopher Fisher
Christopher Fisher

I like how Gwen doesn't waste time wasting her employer. Her aim could use some work though.

Joshua Long
Joshua Long

Teaser for the next issue is done by a crayon-wielding spastic.

Conventionally you'd put the good artist on the advertising material and covers and have the cheap artist doing the insides, but I guess Marvel has better ideas.

Justin Gutierrez
Justin Gutierrez

She does know that her live and that of everyone else isn't real and just inside a comic book.
It might be real for the characters next to her, but she sees them as nothing more then background decoration in order to progress her own unreal story.

Elijah Campbell
Elijah Campbell

Any porn?

Xavier Allen
Xavier Allen

Hey /tv/

Liam Cox
Liam Cox

good for her for being you know whatever
none of us buy shit anyway

Aiden White
Aiden White

Thanks user

Connor Butler
Connor Butler

At least it isn't Miles Morales. Gwen is going to get blacked with dildo in charge.

Angel Cruz
Angel Cruz

Hey /ints/

Alexander Murphy
Alexander Murphy

Hey /test/

Jackson Cook
Jackson Cook

Despite being a huge yurifag Gwen lusts for the cock of every male Marvel character so much in canon this feels wrong. Artist should at least taken the chance to do some good Lightspeed porn (As much as every other fan seems to hate the sexuality thing, I only care how was horribly written. She only expressed interested in boys after her series went to utter shit so hard it had to be retconned away anyways)

James Thomas
James Thomas

real Thor
I see what you did there marvel

Benjamin Phillips
Benjamin Phillips

Not that user but
I claim something is bullshit and here's why I think so
<no it's not
ok why not explain it
<whaaaaa I don't wanna tell you, I will use the spoonfeed meme
Mate you sure sound like a faggot

Christian Rodriguez
Christian Rodriguez

but she definitely doesn't act like a normal person.

Because she isn't meant to be a normalfag, she's a forum-dweller who's obsessed about superhero fiction to try to ignore the fact that she can't succeed in real life. Additionally, she initially thinks like any dumb Youtube commenter that because she's in a fictional universe that she has ultimate power over it as a "protagonist" and treats people like players do NPCs in video games: props for her own ego and enjoyment. It takes Cecil's death to snap her the fuck out and realize that another reality is still reality.

If you go on Sufficient Velocity or Spacebattles' fanfiction forums, she's pretty much a personification of the users who read and write the crap there. One reason I like the comic so much is that it shits all over isekai/self-insert fantasies.

James Allen
James Allen

Real cheeky.

Hudson Nguyen
Hudson Nguyen

The real funny part is Gwen, despite remembering the name of a minor character's school, cares so little she can't remember who the hell she was supposed to be.

Eli Cook
Eli Cook

Gwenpool #9. Girhiru's doing the art. All's right with the world.

We start off learning that Gwen's client was a Doombot. In fact, the greatest of Doombots. A Doombot not restricted to general maintenance duties in Doctor Doom's laboratory facilities.

Doom's victory in the field of artificial intelligence is short lived as classic Squirrel Girl from the future shows up to stop her plans. I say "classic", as she is clearly not wearing the rags of that malformed horrorshow who stars in The Unbeatable Squirrel Girl.

Owen Sanders
Owen Sanders

The Doombot escapes and shacks up with the Terrible Tinkerer. Time passes and Doctor Doom just forgets that he created an advanced AI Doombot.

I like to imagine he saw the Doombot gone and screamed "RICHARDS" before fucking around with the microverse again.

Jaxon Smith
Jaxon Smith

Gwen wasn't really paying attention, and her plan to just call Miles-Spiderman falls through when Miles isn't home.

Just look at that trigger discipline.

Jaxon Murphy
Jaxon Murphy

Fuck yes Gwenpig is BACK

Cameron Perez
Cameron Perez

Gwenpool #9 closes with the reveal that the "top agent" Gwenpool killed back in #1 wasn't alone and they're wondering where their paychecks are.

Christian Lee
Christian Lee

All those covers, and only one captures what the series is all about.

Although I do like covers 5 and 6

John Parker
John Parker

To me, it means Irene at least Knows what works, and does her darndest to emulate it.

She fails, but eh well.

Henry Lewis
Henry Lewis

All those covers, and only one captures what the series is all about.
A bunch of bubbly pop garbage with no coherent substance masked by good art?

Nolan Hernandez
Nolan Hernandez

A bunch of bubbly pop garbage with no coherent substance masked by good art?

Really? Explain.

Robert Green
Robert Green

A little bit more exaggerated and it would look like Serenity.

Benjamin Rivera
Benjamin Rivera

Kek

Camden Gonzalez
Camden Gonzalez

Gwen Poole has midriff on display in her civilian clothes
She gears up in front of the guy who's working at the bank
Next time we see her, she's in a skin-tight leotard

So are we to assume she stripped down completely in front of that Bank employee?

Alexander Thomas
Alexander Thomas

Writer knows about grouping
He also knows it's actually really important
Amazing

Parker Perry
Parker Perry

Yeah man, the cover from OP makes the series seem a lot more vapid than it actually is. Like Storytime-user said, Gwenpool's biggest problem is Marvel keeps selling her as LOLMEMES SORANDUMB.

Nathaniel Richardson
Nathaniel Richardson

All covers do.

Brandon Ward
Brandon Ward

Astounding

Luke Roberts
Luke Roberts

Because I don't like her as a Character? I don't think she needs to exist? Shes less Lolzmemz then what shes portrayed as, but shes redundant, shes dull, and kinda moronic.

To me, what allows Deadpool to not give a shit, for instance, is that he's 99% immortal. He can deal with dangerous folks because hes indestructible. He can get his commapence when he's being a wise ass (Or being obnoxious) with intense pain or humiliation. He just suffers from memification and MASSIVE overexposure. But in small doses, and mixed in with some light AND some dark humor, hes pretty great.

Gwenpool is still the female version of that. So she can't be really hurt (Because she will die, and because as a female she really can't have the same amount of suffering as a male character so says literary law) so she cruises more on plot armor (How clever of her to identify it), and doesn't get as much smackback.

This is literally Deadpool covered in a shiny protective non-dangerous gloss. Treating her as an individual (And why CAN'T I compare her to deadpool if thats in her fucking name) she's just kinda bland overall.

It's the art doing MASSIVE heavy lifting here. If it was drawn in squirrel girl style it would be nearly as insufferable.

Camden Mitchell
Camden Mitchell

I kinda hope we get more info on Gwen's life back in her home universe. She appears to not care that she'll never see her family again, but it looks like a facade. She'll eventually have to realize that she can't spend her whole life in a comic book and that she needs to move on. I'm also really curious to see how time differs between the marvel universe and the "real" universe. Has time passed in her world or is it frozen and nobody knows she's missing? If time is passing, I wonder how she would still be apathetic towards her family if she knew they were looking for her?

I find this comic interesting in that there's a lot that they can do with it. The Civil War stuff was just fluff and had no weight behind it. Here we have a neet who was transported into the marvel universe and gets live out their dreams. It's assumed that they can't be killed (basic storytelling protagonist). If she were killed, would she die forever (Matrix) or would she wake up in her world (Dream) or we she go brain-dead in her own world?

It's the art doing MASSIVE heavy lifting here. If it was drawn in squirrel girl style it would be nearly as insufferable.

I agree. The art is doing a lot of the work for this character. When different artists get a hold of her, her books go to shit very quickly.

Gwenpool is still the female version of that. So she can't be really hurt (Because she will die, and because as a female she really can't have the same amount of suffering as a male character so says literary law) so she cruises more on plot armor (How clever of her to identify it), and doesn't get as much smackback.

The plot armor doesn't make her necessarily invincible though. MODOK forced her to be his stooge by sheer force. That did inflate her ego pretty severely when she knew she could die. Obviously, she can't be killed or else the comic would end unless something special happens when she dies (see above). Her greatest asset is her comic knowledge and the comic book rules where a person can get martial arts training and become a master. Having said that, I also feel that she would be better off only appearing in her own books. If Marvel decides to restrict what the writers can do with her, she will become just as shitty as most of their other heroes. She needs to be able to affect the world around her with the knowledge she has. This means that she shouldn't have any restrictions as to what she can do. Marvel could then use her to do what if scenarios. For example, what if used a real bullet to kill Captain America instead of that teleporting bs bullet they used? There's a lot of potential there, but that really depends on how Marvel wants to control her story and character.

Because I don't like her as a Character? I don't think she needs to exist? Shes less Lolzmemz then what shes portrayed as, but shes redundant, shes dull, and kinda moronic.

I think she has potential. Most heroes are redundant. There are far too many of them. She's moronic, because she's still a young woman. She was a neet before she got transported, so she has next to no real life experience. It would be dumb if she were to immediately be mature as she doesn't know how to. However, she still has room to grow as a character and I'm hoping they do something interesting with her. She can't play the role of villain forever. She will eventually have to grow up.

Lincoln Martinez
Lincoln Martinez

Gwenpool is still the female version of that. So she can't be really hurt (Because she will die, and because as a female she really can't have the same amount of suffering as a male character so says literary law) so she cruises more on plot armor (How clever of her to identify it), and doesn't get as much smackback.

But she suffers all of that. Her best friend is killed in the first issue. Her comics knowledge nearly gets her ass kicked by Whor. Other characters figure out she's a fraud. She gets in over her head fighting M.O.D.O.K. Every superhero she meets thinks she's a homicidal villain. The aliens she claimed she killed come back to kick her ass. Has to run from the cops because she doesn't have Deadpool's super-murder skills. Her plans to fix the entire mess she's in completely falls through and all of her comic book knowledge is shown to be diddly squat. She's wrong more often than she's right.

If anything, Gwenpool is more of a character than Deadpool. Deadpool is an invincible super-assassin. Nothing has any real consequences for him. Gwenpool, however, is neither of those things. She has some actual development to her character when her expectations are subverted.

Owen Cook
Owen Cook

Rare but its nice to see it.

Robert Sanchez
Robert Sanchez

Thanks OP

Michael Harris
Michael Harris

Im the guy your replying too. She also gets her ass kicked by Deadpool. I pay attention.

You are correct, but I can't help but feel like they're not consequences. You are correct. She's more of a character. But no matter what kind of character she is the second when the puppet points out the strings that's all I can see.

It's also just been done before. Don't just fucking TALK about how nothing changes in comics. Fucking CHANGE shit in comics. And I don't mean Whorr or Captain Hydra. I mean shit like have characters retire or grow old. Fucking advance the metaplot. Its like shes coasting on the most irritating part of comics. Id say the whole 4rth wall angle is the worst part. If she was just "Punch Girl" she might be more endearing. There is something deeply tiring about her. I don't know why.
Maybe it's also the artstyle. Through anime overexposure, I have started to HATE cute character designs. I feel like its cloying.

I feel like I haven't fully formulated inside why I hate this character, but the elements Im definitely picking out. A part of it IS overexposure of this type of character. And also how Im tired of subversion as a substitute for actual advancement. Instead of just telling good stories they have to be bad, but then "subverted" to be "good". Its a very strong problem I see in anime and manga.

Wyatt Hughes
Wyatt Hughes

There were some issues where you see her in her life at home. She's a neet who lives with her parents and is an aspie. She does a sleep study which pays 20 dollars a week. Her dad tells her to get a job which she does at the movie theater. Her 4th wall breaking starts to creep into her life.

Juan Gonzalez
Juan Gonzalez

Sounds like one of those webcomics written by a girl with anxiety and possibly depression.

Brandon Stewart
Brandon Stewart

Sounds like one of those webcomics written by a girl with anxiety and possibly depression.

You're projecting too much, user. Anxiety and depression are generally really common among young people though Gwen is essentially a neet who lets herself become a Guinea pig for money and gets a job at a movie theatre. She was still young when something caused her to enter the marvel universe. Gwen does have some anxiety and depression due to her failure to go forward in life. This shown when she can't even get a normal job or graduate from high school. She's someone whose life is passing them by. She should either be in college or working towards a stable job, but she's instead living with her parents and working at a movie theater and immersing herself in fiction. She's someone who didn't grow up once they left high school. She acts like a child when she needs to act like an adult.

I want to see more of her family dynamics. It seemed a bit odd that she didn't want to go back home when Strange gave her the option. This can either be played straight or taken as she doesn't want to wake up yet. Also, Strange did say that something traumatic caused her to cross over and I don't think that's been explained yet.

I wish that Gwenpoole would have a solid ending and that it doesn't get dragged on for decades like other cape comics. I'm tired of comics getting dragged through the mud until a infinite crisis or secret wars event resets everything. You can't even properly build a character if you know they're going to go on forever, reset or until they get canceled. I can understand the big 2 wanting to milk their avengers and justice leagues, but these side characters should just be given solid runs and then that's it. You don't even have to kill them off. Just let them move on with their lives or retire.

Connor Turner
Connor Turner

I think I really just want to see her go back home in the end, do something positive with herself and lead a normal life. Also, turning her into a 2random quirky faggot would be the worst thing you could do to her character. I'm so glad MODOK shut her down hard with that reality check. I'm also glad she's limited in what she can do. The Howard the Duck issue with her was awful, because she really was a deadpool clone in that one.

Levi Torres
Levi Torres

Officer Gray

/v/ has awoken in me a yearning for delicious brown short-haired women, though I shudder to think what she might turn into if she reappears without Gurihiru illustrating.

Eli Howard
Eli Howard

Howard in general has been pretty bad.

Jackson Cook
Jackson Cook

she can't be really hurt

Deadpool injures her pretty badly when they meet in Murder World.

Jack Bennett
Jack Bennett

I am really liking Gwenpool, but I do wish that something would happen to make her realize that even though the universe runs on capeshit logic, that it's still an actual universe with real people in it. Also, I think she was at her best for the short time where she was unaware if she was actually the hero of a comic or not. Something needs to happen to her to really shake her undying belief that she's a MC to really keep it interesting.

He is right, but he seems to forget that no one in comics ever actually get hurt in any meaningful way. Comic book characters only ever get hurt enough to make it look bad for them, while offering a believable excuse for there to be no permanent damage.

Caleb Smith
Caleb Smith

Gwenpool #10 opens with a very interesting question: is mixing chicken with eggs gross? I'm of the opinion that it could be good if you get over the fact you're mixing a mother and child together to eat. What's your thoughts?

Oh, and Gwen pilots the M.O.D.O.K. base through a residential neighborhood to save her friends.

Nathaniel Bell
Nathaniel Bell

Gwenpool is not above taking hostages to get her friends released.

I kinda want to know how that old guy can identity kree spaceships.

Justin White
Justin White

Look out for the POOLE BOYS.

That sounds like some London-based underground gang of homosexuals.

Christian Cruz
Christian Cruz

The day is saved, the doombot suffers by having his normal life turned upside down, and the squid aliens are defeated.

At the cost of all of Gwen's henchmen, their base, and Gwen's whole gang. Gwen is left high and dry as everyone goes their separate ways.

Robert Mitchell
Robert Mitchell

Issue #10 closes with Gwen back to square one and in tears.

Isaac James
Isaac James

if you get over the fact you're mixing a mother and child together to eat
That should be the selling point.
how that old guy can identity kree spaceships
Subtle world building? It's a space-faring age, information about these things could filter down to the Earth internet.
It's a small, simple thing, but Batroc's banter is pretty nice - sympathetic and funny.
sounds like some London-based underground gang of homosexuals.
Looks like it too. Wish they'd take some cover. And that the Kree would actually shoot back, and not suddenly loose all their guns.
"We can take my cop car"
"my cop car"
mfw
It's the little things.

Leo Williams
Leo Williams

Abandoning Quips
I'll take "Advice to save Whedon's career" for 500, Alex.

Josiah Howard
Josiah Howard

Gwenpool #11 and Girihiru is gone. For now. At least the fill-in artist isn't completely terrible.

Kevin Reed
Kevin Reed

If page 6 is anything to go by, Gwen is built like a linebacker.

Hunter Barnes
Hunter Barnes

What the fuck, how does she look like a man in every fucking panel? Like the art isn't "Aneurysm" awful, but the man character looks like the wrong gender every single panel.

Jace Thompson
Jace Thompson

Trappool

Jace Thomas
Jace Thomas

Cecil is apparently white trash, which raises questions over how he was able to afford living in New York. Meanwhile, Gwen apparently took a job from a dead people town. Classic McNinja stuff. Christ, I remember when you could have a dead people town and it would be weird and fun. Now it's fucking commonplace because 'LOLRANDUM'.

This panel layout is pretty bad with that random Hydra head there for no reason.

Julian Thomas
Julian Thomas

This new artist is a real mixed bag.

Ryder Lopez
Ryder Lopez

Oh, and the vampire Gwen needs to stop is MOTHER FUCKING WESLEY SNIPES BLADE.

Unfortunately, the artist totally sucks any excitement you'd get from such a situation.

Henry Foster
Henry Foster

Issue #11 closes with soul-sucking and telling us Arcade is going to be in the next issue.

Evan Clark
Evan Clark

WHERE DID THE BACKGROUNDS GO?

Brody Kelly
Brody Kelly

Thanks for the storytime.

Connor Bell
Connor Bell

Too expensive.

Joseph Adams
Joseph Adams

Really makes you appreciate the regular artist. I bet he could have successfully bridged "cute" and "horror" and still given us backgrounds.

Josiah Cruz
Josiah Cruz

Too bad.

Dylan Myers
Dylan Myers

spidergwen
gwenpool
When are we getting Gwenom?

Aiden Green
Aiden Green

he

The regular artist for Gwenpool is Gurihiru, an illustration team consisting of two Japanese women based out of Sapporo, Japan.

Asher Gomez
Asher Gomez

We already got Gwenom and it was…bad.

Liam Robinson
Liam Robinson

An egg isnt a chicken's child; specially not an egg from a chicken plant. its unfertilized.

Its a chicken's menstruation.

Jordan Torres
Jordan Torres

MY EYES AHH

Benjamin Reyes
Benjamin Reyes

Not good enough. Try it again.

Daniel Myers
Daniel Myers

this is the closest we'll ever get to a good Gwenom

Gwenpool is the greatest example that art should always take precedence. Always.

Angel Torres
Angel Torres

Gwenpool without Gurihiru will not ever be worth reading.

Evan Scott
Evan Scott

But she suffers all of that
The problem is that she doesn't suffer, she is around when others suffer. She never truly suffers because she is always ALMOST suffering. She "almost" gets her ass kicked by Whor, her FRIEND dies, she ALMOST gets caught by cops, she never actually suffers. It's easy to say "her plan to fix things failed" but what does that mean for her? It means nothing because her character never evolves due to it, she just does another stupid thing until the supporting cast of her books eventually get dumbed down enough for those things to actually work. Even when she fails, she wins.
The problem with Gwenpool is that she's supposed to be a "deconstruction" of the self-insert character. But when you deconstruct a sandwich you just get a mess of soggy bread and lettuce, and I'd rather just have a decent fucking sandwich.

Issue #10 closes with Gwen back to square one and in tears.
And those tears don't seem genuine. We're up to double digit issues here, and Gwen has not developed at all. Every issue resets her development back to square one, so when this one ends on her "back to square one" it has no impact since that's every issue.
Gwenpool is just not good. Good art can't poor writing or poor characters, it can only make them look less bad. And we can see that Gwenpool is a bad character since every single time Gurihiru is not involved, it becomes just as shit as everything else Marvel puts out.

Robert Anderson
Robert Anderson

Itll just putter out after that.

Aaron Scott
Aaron Scott

Hopefully they give it a good ending rather than run it into the ground.

Easton Morgan
Easton Morgan

random skelly walks the streets

Jaxon Gonzalez
Jaxon Gonzalez

marvel actually remember they have a old good well written black character
Fuck me dead and call me Shirley this is unexpected

Eli Wood
Eli Wood

You mean Hastings remembers

Luis Edwards
Luis Edwards

That was a surprise

Luke Lewis
Luke Lewis

Gwenpool #12 and Gurihiru is back! Looks like Gwen has found herself in a ye olde fantasy land, so grab ye flask.

Ayden Gomez
Ayden Gomez

Lots of roleplaying references in this issue.

Robert Smith
Robert Smith

Always with ze slurs

Heh

Ryan Phillips
Ryan Phillips

Issue #12 closes with Gwenpool about to face off against
DEADPOOL

Brandon Lewis
Brandon Lewis

those runes
I guess he installed a runic font and mashed on the home row.

Josiah Thomas
Josiah Thomas

Thanks user.

Isaac Rogers
Isaac Rogers

Better than comic sans

Evan Scott
Evan Scott

I was hoping for an easter egg for the nerds that can read futhark

Ian Williams
Ian Williams

Is anyone else reading Arcade's lines in Vic Mignogna's voice?

I think it's because of the art.

Easton Walker
Easton Walker

Sample?

Jaxson Green
Jaxson Green

pic related
Also, what is this face trying to convey?

Robert Brown
Robert Brown

Strychalski can't draw gwen
Wait, does that mean that the real gwen never got caught and identified by the police? :'^)

David Williams
David Williams

The hell is that thing.

Cooper Rivera
Cooper Rivera

fixed it

Oliver Morgan
Oliver Morgan

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Mason Campbell
Mason Campbell

I actually kind of agree. She hasn't really moved beyond the "Lol it's just a comic, I can do whatever I want" sociopath mindset and hasn't really realized that just because they're fake in a book doesn't change the fact they're living, breathing, and dying in front of her. Not only that, but she's incredibly dismissive about how people she actually cares about would REACT to her shenanigans.

Like, take that Nigger-Spidey team-up for example. Even the most casual of casuals know Spidemen usually don't like to kill, and as a Marvel fangirl, she should incredibly aware of that. Yet her first instinct is to try to murder a kid and expecting him NOT to go "What the fuck" and web her for the police?

She never wizens up and realizes that just because it's a book doesn't change the fact that killing people because it's convenient isn't something you should do, real life or fiction. If she's supposed to be a self-insert deconstruction, she's almost unrealistically disconnected. Deadpool at least has the excuse that he's insane. I think user is right: we're distracted by the art and don't question these things, so when a worse artist has to take over, you suddenly focus on the story more and get critical (hence why we call it shit without Gihiriru).

Also, side-note that's really been bugging me: If Gwen comes from a normal earth and is an untrained NEET, why is she killing people without blinking an eye? Even if you use that "Do you care about GTA civvies" excuse, you think she'd be less peppy about blowing up a bank and killing everyone inside in issue 1.

Dominic Adams
Dominic Adams

*think she'd be less peppy about blowing up a bank and killing everyone inside in issue 1. The smell of dead burnt bodies would probably stay with you far longer.

Mason Lopez
Mason Lopez

Because maybe shes autistic? Don'tcha feel bad for her now HA?

It's because a real neet would do much more long lasting changes so she has to be retarded or a moron so she doesn't.

A real geek in a batman comic would ask arkham about Jokers official body count and why he hasn't been legally killed yet. Which he would be.

A Real geek (Not in SJW marvel) might actually get shit fixed and done. Would mention how people seem to be resurrected all the time, and would pretty much-spread self-awareness through all the issues.

Problem is that a real reality bender is HARD. Faux observations with really good art is much easier.

Oliver Peterson
Oliver Peterson

I think this is mostly a side-effect of how she was created. Y'see, back when Marvel was doing their big recent Secret Wars event back in… what, 2014? 2015? I'm too lazy to look it up, but either way, there was one month where they did this entire line-up of Gwen Stacy variant covers. Gwen Stacy as Wolverine, Gwen Stacy as the Hulk, Gwen Stacy as all of the Avengers… and pic related, Gwen Stacy as Deadpool. Guess which of those variant covers became a brief fad among the cosplay community?

And guess which group of retarded comic book editors scrambling to try to attract new readers to boost their flagging sales saw that and decided to make a new character out of it? And guess which freelance writer got told he'd be given an ongoing if he could come up with an original pitch for the character on the spot?

So yeah, all this jarring, unrealistic characterization is because she started from 'Gwen Stacy Deadpool' and had to be expanded out from there. It's all meant to be a variation on """classic""" Deadpool behavior.

Brody Morris
Brody Morris

Makes sense. So they never planned her characterization then did they?

Elijah Davis
Elijah Davis

cuckime "art" style
So it's everything you get out of an SJW comic but it panders to leftist weebs?
Not a good look.

Jacob Carter
Jacob Carter

'cuckime' "art" style
I bet you unironically think this .>>900268 is better

Aiden Long
Aiden Long

Nope. Though Gwen's brother did call her out on the casual murder in the latest issue, so it looks like Hastings is at least paying attention to criticism and trying to address complaints by turning them into story material.

William Jackson
William Jackson

It's Gwenpool #13, Deadpool vs. Gwenpool, and Gwenpool doesn't seem to be doing so hot.

Nice to see Hastings remembered Walrus.

Camden White
Camden White

Gwen is apparently pretty good at roleplaying games.

Eli Hughes
Eli Hughes

Gwen talks to much and Deadpool figures everything out. He promptly uses his massive popularity to start kicking Gwen's ass.

Oh, and Gurihiru shows up to draw the most important part of this comic.

Jason Ramirez
Jason Ramirez

Deadpool is just about to slit Gwen's throat when she asks him an important question: If he's the massive popular Deadpool, then why the fuck is trapped by Arcade?

Realizing his folly, Gwen and Deadpool team up to beat the shit out of Arcade.

Sebastian Edwards
Sebastian Edwards

I bet you think HPMOR is unironically good fiction then.

A Real geek (Not in SJW marvel) might actually get shit fixed and done. Would mention how people seem to be resurrected all the time, and would pretty much-spread self-awareness through all the issues.
Ah, yes the ultimate geek fantasy of pointing out "inconsistencies" in the setting and one-upping the writers.
Problem is, what if the "inconsistencies" can be explained, just not explicitly from reading the comic books? Maybe they're already aware of resurrection but haven't found a method of reliably replicating the phenomenon. What about "inconsistencies" in our own understanding of our universe? We literally have problems we've never solved, and nutritional science is fucked to hell. We've barely scratched the surface of comprehending how we age.

reality bender
What the fuck. I don't think you're using that correctly.

Alexander Clark
Alexander Clark

Gwenpool #13 closes with her vowing to make Cecil a real boy, again. Apparently there are going to be more cross-overs. Not thrilled about the lesbian Hawkeye-Girl, but we do get fucking ANGR.

Matthew Collins
Matthew Collins

No, I don't.
Nice try though.

Joseph Miller
Joseph Miller

Thanks user.

William Walker
William Walker

Gwen is apparently pretty good at roleplaying games.

She's not, and this is probably the cringeworthiest way they could have tried to show that she is.

Kevin Campbell
Kevin Campbell

Every character is good at it because its the self insert of the writer speaking.

Ian Williams
Ian Williams

he is just too much lolmeme
This shit is getting weird now….almost as if the writers are actually trying to fight marvel shitty ideas

Nathaniel Brown
Nathaniel Brown

"since we are in your comic you think this give you power over me?"

Nolan James
Nolan James

Gwen once again solves the problem by having someone else swoop in and solve the problem while everything conveniently falls into place in her favor.
Great example of how Gwenpool never actually suffers: Just when it looks like she's actually getting her shit kicked in for once and facing a consequence, the next page has her costume repaired and her with no injury at all.

Jack Harris
Jack Harris

Gwen once again solves the problem by having someone else swoop in and solve the problem while everything conveniently falls into place in her favor.
She clearly solved the problem by using words with Deadpool. Arcade wasn't the boss of the storyline. In keeping with Gwen being aware of her beign in a comic book, her "big challenge" wasn't a standard supervillain, it was fighting a much more popular hero, who she knew she couldn't kill, only temporarily harm. Sure, I agree with the "she doesn't actually get harmed" statement, but that appies to every hero ever. When is the last time a hero had to deal with recovering from the 50th bulletwound he received?

Gavin Kelly
Gavin Kelly

She clearly solved the problem by using words with Deadpool
If you want to go that route it was retarded as well. She didn't "use her words", she said what amounts to "hey don't kill me because just don't" and Deadpool obliges. It's completely out of character for him to all of a sudden be best friends with Gwen.
Sure, I agree with the "she doesn't actually get harmed" statement, but that appies to every hero ever. When is the last time a hero had to deal with recovering from the 50th bulletwound he received?
Tony's in a coma, Hulk remains dead, and when Frank Castle gets shot, he actually is shot. When Batman gets his back broken, his back is broken. Hell when Spiderman gets the shit kicked out of him he at the very least looks worse for wear for a little bit, Gwen goes from "in a fight" to "my costume is repaired" within a page, and manages to make friends with everyone ever and be liked all times.

Leo Perez
Leo Perez

she said what amounts to "hey don't kill me because just don't"
<I didn't actually read the comic

Ok, I'll explain it for you.

Deadpool was trapped by Arcade. Deadpool was killing baddies to escape from Arcade. Gwen asks Deadpool why he's following along with the whole "kill baddies" to escape plot-line when he's a fourth wall breaking character and can just escape on his own. This gives Deadpool pause.

As for the costume, none of them are in their fantasy garb either.

Gabriel Lee
Gabriel Lee

Accusing me of not having read a comic that's in the fucking post
Look, I get it. You're a big Gwenpool fan, you have shit taste, you desperately want to give this a pass. But it's shit. One day you'll be old enough to understand this champ.

Mason Turner
Mason Turner

"The maincharacter solved the problem without dying a horrific death, waaaaaaah"

Bentley Sanders
Bentley Sanders

Wanting a character to experience consequence means wanting them to die
Modern Marvel's audience, ladies and gentlemen. Go read some more Riri faggot

Isaiah Roberts
Isaiah Roberts

You get weekends off, I see. Usually you post in the evening.

Your argument, for the last several posts, has been that she hasn't suffered enough. Then people give examples of how she suffered, then you say that doesn't count. You even argued that Gwen's tears at the end of issue 10 weren't genuine, like she was a real person and not at all a fictional character in a comic book. Where you were going with that completely baffles me. It seems like you're unable to differentiate between fantasy and reality.

Do you know what "the inability to differentiate between fantasy and reality" is a symptom of? It might explain why you keep coming to this thread.

Gavin Adams
Gavin Adams

physical injuries must be permanent even if they have a magical healer on the team because I say so
Whatever you say, sport

Wyatt Cook
Wyatt Cook

Then people give examples of how she suffered
Which she has not. Not even slightly. Saying "yeah but other people are suffering and she has to be around them when they do!" isn't suffering, it's her being an author self-insert by someone tangentially aware of how not to be a shitty OC creator.
Again, I get that you desperately want this to be good, but it's not. Trying to excuse shitty writing because "it's just a comic book" isn't getting you anywhere.

Justin Brooks
Justin Brooks

friends dying isn't painful
I wouldn't want to be your friend ever, thank God there's no chance it's going to happen :^)

Aaron Cruz
Aaron Cruz

friends dying isn't painful
It's not when half your characterization is not giving a fuck about anyone in the world since you think they're all fake.
She can't be super sad that "her friend died" and then a few issues later be trying to kill people with fucking Spiderman. Either she thinks people are real or she thinks they're fake. The way they've written it she actually devolves as a character.

Hunter Hill
Hunter Hill

It's a comic about a cute girl doing cape things. Adversity builds character, certainly, and in stories it is essential for giving meaningful to the conflict. And Gwen is a cute when she suffers.
But I think it's a question of genre, here. Gwenpool is probably more comedic and light than what you're looking for.

James Gutierrez
James Gutierrez

Thanks man.

Adrian Nguyen
Adrian Nguyen

Either she thinks people are real or she thinks they're fake.
Ooooor she thinks extras are fake and named characters aren't, which is why she had an extra name themselves in order to make sure she sees them again. She clearly cares about the well-being of named characters like Mega Tony while at the same time having no qualms with offing extras because she considers one category real and another not. Christ, you're an autistic retard.

Dylan Ward
Dylan Ward

Ooooor she thinks extras are fake and named characters aren't, which is why she had an extra name themselves in order to make sure she sees them again.

That's still retarded. Like that's sorta narrative rules, but only in a way that doesn't make sense.
It's like saying "Well if it's not in the current panel I'm in it doesn't exist".

What does she expect them all to have nametags and saying "I love my complicated and developed life that I will list off 24/7"

It didn't make sense in "The Strange" and it doesn't make sense here.

Aiden Jackson
Aiden Jackson

Funny how they made Arcade a bishounen.

Grayson James
Grayson James

it doesn't make sense
The rules of fiction, such as conservation of detail, make perfect sense. A dm isn't going to come up with a name, profession, backstory, and detailed physical appearance of every NPC in a tavern, and won't get too pissy if you randomly kill them, because they are not important and won't show up again.
Yes, if you assume that the world she's living in is 100% accurate and detailed and real instead of a work of fiction, then applying the rules of fiction to a world that is not fictional doesn't make sense. I cannot toss a bomb into a bank and suffer no real repercussions because I am not living in a comic book.
Gwenpoole is in a comic book, not reality. That is the entire fucking point you gigantic, retarded sperg. Rules of fiction and rules of reality are not the same, the humor is derived from someone in a fiction story being aware of the rules of fiction, such as Chekhov's gun and foreshadowing, and using them to gain an advantage over people treating fiction like it's reality.

I understand that you are too much of a sperg to grasp that fiction and reality operate on different rules, but your own lack of comprehension of that fact does not mean the comic does not make sense. It means you are retarded.

Elijah Rivera
Elijah Rivera

Ooooor she thinks extras are fake and named characters aren't
So she thinks a thing you made up just now to justify it, all the while she ignores that the named characters dont think that, which she is supposed to know due to being a comic NEET, and while she greived over an extra whi she liked but then doesnt give a fuck about.

So she's shittily written.

Joseph Turner
Joseph Turner

You either haven't read the comic or don't understand stuff that was explicitly stated.

Charles Nguyen
Charles Nguyen

You either haven't read the comic or don't understand stuff that was explicitly stated.
Oh yeah, she totally doesnt care about extras. Thats why she was sad about Cecil right? Everybody knows Cecil! He's only one of marvels most popular characters, whom she'd never seen in a comic before, and whom she knew for less than 2 issues before his death, thats why she's so torn up! Then he came back as a ghost because "it was unfair that he died" which is how ghosts work apparently for no reason.
I mean of course she had no problem killing Cecil's gangmates who also has names, but that doesnt count.

Logan Wood
Logan Wood

Gwenpool #14 and the beginning of Gwen's LA adventure!

Oh and Gurihiru is gone.

Dylan Evans
Dylan Evans

So apparently dwarves can give Cecil a corporeal form again, and Gwen takes a magic bathtub portal to where they are. Meanwhile, lesbihawkeye is scoping out some dwarf party with a jewel or something. Then ANGR shows up.

Looking at the art, it's clear Marvel can't afford decent talent.

Jace Baker
Jace Baker

A fight breaks out between ANGR, leshawkeye, and Gwen. Cecil touches the magic gem and gets sucked into it.

Brayden Bennett
Brayden Bennett

Either the gem changes sizes, or the artist can't do proportion. Anyway, ANGR steals the gem and drives off. Gwen gets a ride from Lesbihawkeye and I really hope she doesn't make a pass at Gwen.

Kayden Rogers
Kayden Rogers

Gwenpool #14 closes with the spirit of vengeance offering Cecil revenge against the one really responsible for his death and the introduction of Gwen's parents?

Austin Green
Austin Green

Thanks user

Colton Hernandez
Colton Hernandez

That's supposed to be Officer Gray.
That's supposed to be the same character as

Where does Marvel even find these people?

Dylan Russell
Dylan Russell

Gwen's parents? But her parents are in her reality, right? Not the Marvel one. How's that work?!

Luke Wood
Luke Wood

They are trying as hard as they can to put Kate Bishop in as many comics doing archery stuff, because most readers don't know or give a fuck who she is, even though Marvel writers badly, oh so badly want her to be "the real Hawkeye"

Cooper Baker
Cooper Baker

Well doc strange made her a new ID for comic world using some things from the real world so I guess that's how it's down….
I've never even heard of this cunt before now

Ryder Ramirez
Ryder Ramirez

thing you made up just now
It was explicitly stated in the first comic and shown in image five of Oh yeah, she totally doesnt care about extras. Thats why she was sad about Cecil right
CECIL
NAMED CHARACTER
HER SIDEKICK
AN EXTRA

Camden Lee
Camden Lee

We find out in a future issue that comic book versions of Gwen's parents have existed the whole time, but that they don't have kids. So far they haven't really been plot relevant aside from that one scene in

Dominic Williams
Dominic Williams

It was explicitly stated in the first comic
No it wasn't, she says "who cares about extras" but she never says diddly-dick about named characters. Because by all accounts Cecil is just as much of an extra since she states the difference between an extra and anyone else is that "she has a costume".
Cecil has a name so it's different!
Yeah, and as I said, what about all the other people whose names she knows that she kills the shit out of? You're supposed to tell me that she only cares about people once she learns their name, and that's somehow good writing?

Cecil was a fucking extra. She knew the cunt for less than 2 issues and killed literally every other person he was with aside from him. She'd never read about him in a comic book, she'd never been given any reason to believe he was any different from any other extra in the universe, especially given his lack of powers or anything. She cries over a guy who not one issue prior she was treating like one of Deadpool's "buddies" who Deadpool at the very least had the consistency to not be too concerned about. You're making excuses for Gwenpool's terrible writing and characterization because YOU ARE A FAGGOT.

Charles Sanchez
Charles Sanchez

The rules of fiction, such as conservation of detail, make perfect sense.

I mean my point is that it doesn't make sense from a perspective of a person INSIDE the comic. All that Gwenpool is arguing is solipsism when it doesn't make sense to a person INSIDE a comic.
Your right as a GM you won't mention the detail, but it's not like that detail is not there. If the players ask for more information you will follow up on it.

It's a universe that exists as you view it. So for Gwenpool to act like that in a simulation doesn't make sense. Only a MORON would kill "Extras" even in a simulation as the simulation is still trying to follow proper rules. If in the simulation when you kill an "Extra" they call the "Extra" cops and then "Extra" shoot at you, thats still "Simulated" bullets.

But that's because she cruises on "PLOT ARMOR LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL". And that's just more annoying than endearing or clever.

Heck it might have actually been INTERESTING to see her go against regular comic moulds. Like becoming a lawyer and exploring the usually unmentioned stuff in comics.
Where do supervillains go after being defeated? What is the legislature that prevents them from getting the death penalty? What do the Taxpayers think about this?
How OLD is actually anybody?

That would be some actual 4rth wall breakage that wasn't done to death.

James Cooper
James Cooper

"The REAL Hawkeye"

Owen Sanders
Owen Sanders

Otherwise, she'd just be "purple archer girl", so they have to draw your attention to the fact that Marvel wants her to be a full time, for serious, real deal super hero.. Y'know, except for all those times when she doesn't actually fight crime and mostly just shows up in other characters' books to be like "REMEMBER HOW I'M HAWKEYE NOW?!"

John Brown
John Brown

I mean my point is that it doesn't make sense from a perspective of a person INSIDE the comic.
Gwen's perspective isn't that she's living inside a real world with people that have actual histories it's that she's living inside a fiction. There's no point in responding to the rest of this post because your premise is flawed due to your own inability to perceive the difference between fiction and reality. Background characters don't have names in any form of fiction due to conservation of detail. That is what makes them background characters.

she never says diddly-dick about named characters.
Image four of Stop arguing about comics you haven't read.
Yeah, and as I said, what about all the other people whose names she knows that she kills the shit out of?
Such as?

Logan Perry
Logan Perry

oh, whatever

Angel Barnes
Angel Barnes

Not that guy but
difference between fiction and reality
What do you mean when you say "fiction" and "reality"? Our fiction, and our reality? Or Gwen's fiction and "reality"?

Ryder Barnes
Ryder Barnes

Blonde haired blue eyed girls mum looks Latina
What did they mean by this?

Ryder Lopez
Ryder Lopez

If you understood the concept of a followup argument, you would get that her actions are retarded even if she does think shes only in fiction.

Jace Walker
Jace Walker

Heck it might have actually been INTERESTING to see her go against regular comic moulds. Like becoming a lawyer and exploring the usually unmentioned stuff in comics.
That's no so much "more interesting" as much as a different genre.
And that's just more annoying than endearing or clever.
If she didn't get her ass handed to her by whor and Deadpool, I'd share your dislike more, but she's not that much of a plot-armored Mary Sue. Just regularly plot-armored, and acknowledging it, without making more of a big deal out of it than necessary.
As for the murdering, I pretty much ignore the non-Gurihiru issues. She just seems to act differently when drawn by other artists. Hopefully her brother will continue to point out her homicidal behaviour. So far, it seems that's she's just a natural born killer, which is also fine, so long as the comic continues to acknowledge this, explicitly or subtly.

Caleb Hughes
Caleb Hughes

Myisha Haynes
Looking at this artwork, you can immediately tell that the artist did not practice their fundamentals. They clearly practiced tons of little shortcuts and little tricks to churn out art quickly. I was going to assume that they probably got their start and tumblr, and sure enough, google her name and her tumblr is the first thing that comes up. Their art is just unapologetically ugly, but they hide it under lots of bright colors.

Nicholas Hughes
Nicholas Hughes

i'm right because i say so
ok

I mean reality, that thing we inhabit, and fiction, stories we create.

Benjamin Anderson
Benjamin Anderson

If she didn't get her ass handed to her by whor and Deadpool
…Aaand? What did that lead into? Nothing. Because she depends on her plot armor to carry her forward (How "Clever").

This is why 4rth wall fiction can fail so spectacularly. Why isn't she in a cell rotting for 40 years? Or dead?

Because of plot armor or contrivance. Say what you want about Deadpool not taking situations seriously because he's immortal, at least he didn't take them seriously BECAUSE HE KNEW THE WRITING WOULD'NT MAKE HIM DIE.

Plot armor is literally all she has. Its not clever.

Kayden Nguyen
Kayden Nguyen

The only time I've heard of Kate Bishop was in Young Avengers. Since then I think she's been teaming up with regular Hawkeye.

Is Kate Bishop Asian now?

I dunno. I think Explains why her parents look like that.

Lincoln Robinson
Lincoln Robinson

…Aaand? What did that lead into? Nothing.
Yeah, she overcame the conflict, or her colleagues did. This is not a bad thing.
Because she depends on her plot armor to carry her forward (How "Clever").
No, with Deadpool she depended on negotiation. With whor, she failed utterly, and then depended on comic-book knowledge and negotiation (and probably a bit of pussy-pass) with Batroc. If she depended simply on plot-armor, she'd just be sitting on her ass, saying and doing nothing.
I think you're seeing a lot more of a problem than there might be, but I'd like to hear what specifically you would propose in the way of fixing the issues you see with Gwenpool.

Samuel Miller
Samuel Miller

See, she asks someone their name!
And that doesn't make the point you extrapolated from it. And again, if that were true, why did she have no problem killing Rodney? You konw, a guy with a name? And why did she not kill Cecil prior to learning his name, and team up with him before knowing his name, when she could have easily killed him? Because she is written shittily.
Such as?
She has no problem trying to shoot the shit out of Damian, who given what Miles says she must know the name of. Even after inarguably hearing the name she shows no remorse or regret She has no qualsm about shooting Vinnie who up until then she believes is a named, normal guy. Hell, she murders the fuck out of Rodney's gang and despite knowing their names doesn't give half a fuck because "ahh well they're bad". In fact she should know Rodney's name since she narrates while he's in there and explicitly mentions the truck, her awareness extends that far. There is no excuse, every time you try to apply rhyme or reason it's contradicted somewhere else in the book because this character is literally a meme.

No, with Deadpool she depended on negotiation
"Hey why kill me though that's silly" is not negotiation. Especially when there's no resistance at all on the other part.
If she depended simply on plot-armor, she'd just be sitting on her ass, saying and doing nothing.
Except she DOES depend on plot-armor. You can tell this because as the issues go on, everybody just does what she says without any hesitation whatsoever. The fact that "the Poole boys" exist shows that she IS a Mary Sue because there's really no other reasoning for why a group of "Top Agents" would willingly follow the word of some random girl with no combat training whatsoever whose only affiliation is with fucking Batroc the Leaper.

Aaron Carter
Aaron Carter

"Hey why kill me though that's silly"
not negotiation
That's not everything she said.
Deadpool had been brainwashed. She exploited his super-nature against his brainwashing. Okay, not negotiation, technically, call it what you will. Guile or whatever.

everybody just does what she says without any hesitation whatsoever
Right until they go their own ways. And she does prove over the same time frame that she has some idea of what she's doing.

The fact that "the Poole boys" exist shows that she IS a Mary Sue because there's really no other reasoning for why a group of "Top Agents" would willingly follow the word of some random girl with no combat training whatsoever whose only affiliation is with fucking Batroc the Leaper.
No, Gwen and Batroc and etc were the "Top Agents" mentioned. Those other guys were mooks, and they knew it. Plus, it's a comic book universe, professional mooks probably don't have too many problems following the orders of a teenage girl so long as she gives the impression of a typical caped freak, and this teenage girl is to their knowledge one of their boss' lieutenants. The biggest issue I see them having is their late pay-check - I would have liked to see if she ever paid them or how else she got all those guys to work in those costumes. I also don't like how she employed her mooks, their depicted tactics demonstrated against the squid aliens.

Anyway, I'll be repeating myself now: what would you propose in the way of fixing the issues you see with Gwenpool?

Carter Gomez
Carter Gomez

Anyway, I'll be repeating myself now: what would you propose in the way of fixing the issues you see with Gwenpool?

Not do it at all. I'm sorry that the house is sinking but maybe fucking quicksand wasn't the best place to set a foundation.
She is redundant and annoying.

She has to act like a person who knows comics, but also a person who has never fucking read a single comic and is just a sociopath to move her shitty weak plot along.

She's a redundant character at best.

Henry Reed
Henry Reed

She has to act like a person who knows comics, but also a person who has never fucking read a single comic
See, there's a contradiction that could be fixed
and is just a sociopath to move her shitty weak plot along.
What plot? I agree that the "greater" story-line as a whole is pathetic, I read it for chuckles and soft-core teen cheese-cake. The best the series can do is probably episodic stories a few books long, with stories mostly about a cutie of understated psychopathy trying to cape in the MU with varying levels of success.

Caleb Parker
Caleb Parker

I find the concept intriguing. Like a genki Thomas Covenant.
And bear in mind that the longer she stays in the Marvel Universe, the less use her insider knowledge will be, as storylines progress, new characters are introduced, and retcons happen.
So far she's coasted along on character shields and knowing everyone's secret identities, but it'll get harder for her later. Unlike DC characters, Marvel characters don't tend to have glaring weaknessess like wood, or yellow, or kryptonite.

Lol, I wonder how a DC version would have fared, like, um, Gwenstroke?

Gavin Wright
Gavin Wright

stories mostly about a cutie of understated psychopathy trying to cape in the MU with varying levels of success.
But the point is that this would still be shit
Also she is not "cute". She's just drawn by a decent artist. Her actual design is hideous as you can see from the first issue.

Her "comic knowledge" wont progress like that because its as nebulous as it needs to be to dolve the problems the writers make up. Like how she knows all about Deadpool and is able to "negotiate" with him despite her being autistic and admitting she doesnt read Deadpool.

Nathan Watson
Nathan Watson

What drove you to hate Gwenpoole? Don't say "I read it and it was terrible," because more than half your claims in the thread were debunked by the comic itself. Anyone with at least one working eye and half a brain can tell that you haven't actually read it. Was there some reviewer that you're deriving this opinion from?

Parker Perez
Parker Perez

You "speak" like a goddamn forced marketer.

Nathaniel Smith
Nathaniel Smith

But the point is that this would still be shit

John Sanders
John Sanders

Gwenpool #15 opens with a bunch of irrelevant back-story. Gurihiru is still MIA.

Christian Smith
Christian Smith

The Spirit of Vengence tells Cecil that Gwen is to blame for his death! He should seek revenge! PUNISH HER! POSSESS HER! LIVE AGAIN IN HER FLESH!

Page eight has the weirdest looking Robbie Reyes I've ever fucking seen.

Henry Gomez
Henry Gomez

Dwarves! Dwarves and monsters!

Mason Butler
Mason Butler

Hope you're aware Robbie's powers come from the spirit of his devil worshipping uncle. Not from the Spirit of Vengeance.

Asher Howard
Asher Howard

Cecil becomes a dog monster thing. Ok.

Hudson Hughes
Hudson Hughes

More bait and switch with shitty art from Myisha Haynes
Thanks for fucking nothing Marvel.

Eli Long
Eli Long

Gwen #15 closes with Gwen meeting her brother? Her hipster douchebag looking brother?

Dominic Torres
Dominic Torres

This universe copy thing and them somehow being aware of Gwen's existence/being their daughter in another reality is just ridiculous. What's worse is this art for this arc. It was horrendous and does not let itself to anything action wise at all.

Nicholas Campbell
Nicholas Campbell

The REAL Hawkeye
The BETTER Hawkeye

Jesus, how much shilling is Hawkdyke gonna get before this team up is over?

Isaac Fisher
Isaac Fisher

Whoops, forgot to quote

Connor Campbell
Connor Campbell

the being aware of her isn't unreasonable; Dr Strange did transplant the advent of her birth from he home universe

Luke King
Luke King

You didn't read it waaah!
Buddy I've been referencing the comic multiple times, I don't know why you can't fathom people thinking it's shit. Why are you even here if you actually think this is good writing, ComicsAlliance seems more your speed. First it's "she doesn't kill named characters!" despite her killing the named Rodney in , then it's "But Cecil is a named character!" despite her not learning his name until the issue AFTER she decides to not kill him and only knowing it for one issue (and him "having a name" still not being enough of a reason for her to give a fuck about him) and you keep going.
She never says 'I only kill extras, not named characters" she just states that extras don't matter whereas having a name means they're more likely to live: She never once says she doesn't kill people with names, nor that she gives any more of a shit about them. You're talking out your ass by skimming for keywords in a comic you want to be super good, but clearly have only cursory knowledge of.

It would be shit. That's a FACT

Grayson Martin
Grayson Martin

Gwenpool #16! Gurihiru is back! Filler is over! Beyond the Fourth Wall begins now!

Gwen meets her Marvel universe brother. Wait, no, it isn't. It's her home universe brother, there to take her back to their universe. He pulls her through a portal that takes them back, back to before any of the previous fifteen issues happened. Back to Gwen's miserable live-at-home NEET life!

Charles Davis
Charles Davis

Gwen is told to stop playing vidya and get a fucking job. Her texts reveal that she has no friends. She stops by her local comic shop to buy comics and ask if they're hiring. He says beat it and Gwen is another jobless millennial who can't get work.

Nolan James
Nolan James

gwen buys secret wars

She's really hit rock bottom now.

Isaiah Walker
Isaiah Walker

Why is Gwen so inhuman
like I understand that she's not real but nobody talks like that. Half the text bubbles on any given page seem like they could have been left out, and the writer just crammed them in to make it look more like Deadpool

Dylan Gomez
Dylan Gomez

Gwen meets up with her brother and he asks her how her story is coming along. Her fanfiction story. As if you couldn't get more pathetic, Gwen.

Gwen gets home and gets into a fight with her dad. It turns out Gwen couldn't graduate high-school, doesn't have any friends, and can't even get a job bussing tables. Her life sucks.

This issue is turning out to be the anti-Hellcat. Gwen has actual problems that effect her and those problems actually cause conflict with her loved ones. It's almost like Hastings is writing…an actual story.

Josiah Wright
Josiah Wright

Whops, page ahead.

Gwen runs off to her job. A job that involves a strange portal thingy. At the urging of her brother, she decides to stay in this universe, apply to fast-food jobs, and write her shitty fan-fiction.

Gwenpool #16 closes with the first letters page for Gwenpool!

David Howard
David Howard

WRONG.

Gwenpool #16 closes with shit starting to get weird.

Jaxson Wood
Jaxson Wood

This through to around the next 2 issues is where the story trips over itself trying to be inception

Nathan Thomas
Nathan Thomas

"worlds better than this one"
the fucking marvel universe

That's got to be pretty close to the bottom of any sensible person's list of "fictional worlds that would be good to live in".

Mason Hill
Mason Hill

Despite how shit Gwenpool is, at least that statement fits her character.
She's a loser. But since she's a girl written by a shitty writer, she has limitless possibility in the Marvel Universe since nothing bad will actually happen to her and she'll have amazing skills without the need to work to obtain them. Of course she'd love the Marvel Universe: Marvel would never harm a "geek girl" would they?

Brayden Adams
Brayden Adams

he's still mad

Jackson Morris
Jackson Morris

Inception
a movie about entering dream worlds
not The Neverending Story
not The Pagemaster
not Magic Ex Libris
not The Last Action Hero
mfw

Eh, better than the forty-first millennium, off the top of my head.

Brayden Bailey
Brayden Bailey

Gwen sure is cute when she's being an easily excitable idiot.

Jack Morris
Jack Morris

Eh, better than the forty-first millennium, off the top of my head.
Honestly? I prefer 40K. The odds of me living a OK-ish life or at least dying forever are pretty high.

In marvel you are stuck in a loop of eternal suffering, and reboots.

Christopher Thomas
Christopher Thomas

you're not impressing anyone

Sebastian Brooks
Sebastian Brooks

Maybe inceptio wasn't the best comparison, but the "they thought they left X but are still in X they just dont know it" is pretty overdone. It was done better by Doctor Doom and the Marquis of Death anyway. The point wasnt that she enters dream worlds, its that she is still comic even when she leaves comic because twist.

It's like someone is trying to make an entire storyline out of 4th wall jokes without realizing that for a 4th wall joke to be funny it has to have contrast. Even The Last Action Hero had the decency to actually be a coherent story first and foremost

Owen Diaz
Owen Diaz

Fucking NEET REEEEEEEE

>that letters page

Christopher Cooper
Christopher Cooper

The Last Action Hero
Wouldn't that be the opposite of Gwen's story? It would be like Deadpool entering the real world and quickly realizing that he can no longer regenerate and then dying soon after that to cancer.

The Neverending Story
I'd say Gwen is closer to Bastian than anyone else on that list.

The Pagemaster
It's a pretty similar concept to the above, but Gwen doesn't have a guide to help her. However, it would be interesting to see Gwen enter different comic genres. Her friend is already a ghost, so why not have her enter one of the marvel monster universes. She could team up with Terrible Eye again for another series of adventures. Marvel has a ton of universes and we saw many of them during Marvel Zombies. Why limit Gwen to the universes with capes? It would be a good way for Marvel to increase exposure to the other genres under its belt.

Magic Ex Libris
I had to look this one up. It looks like the protag use libriomacy. He can make things real by pulling them out of books. This is more like an end goal for Gwen. It would be a way to show her taking control of her unique situation by using comics to solve her problems. It would also help pull her further away from being a deadpool clone. It would give her reality-warping powers, but it's not like that hasn't been done before in comics. It could work really well. This could also be a character arc, where she completely loses herself in comics. Even though she's in a comic universe, she completely goes off the deep end and takes her escapist behavior to the extreme.

Jaxon Martinez
Jaxon Martinez

The Last Action Hero had the decency to actually be a coherent story first and foremost

I think that's an issue with comics. They're expected to keep going until they'[re canceled in the west. There are story arcs, but those are limited in what they can do. It's really hard to tell a story if there's no end, because you know things are just going to keep on going. That's part of why I hope they give Gwen a definitive ending. Even Sherlock Holmes had an ending. That's why the books are told from Watson's perspective and not as they're happening.

Ethan White
Ethan White

That's part of why I hope they give Gwen a definitive ending
From the previews of the newest issues, looks like they don't.

Carson Reed
Carson Reed

Its nevef going to end, she's actually popular.

Nolan Williams
Nolan Williams

Thanks user

Alexander Jackson
Alexander Jackson

THE UNBELIEVABLE GWENPOOL #17: BEYOND THE FOURTH WALL PART 2

Gwen is hard at work at her (crap) job at a movie theater. Shoveling pop-corn, shilling premium items, nerds ruining movies that she hasn't been able to see because she works at movie theater where it's being shown. The joys of being a productive member of society.

Oh, and now she can see her thought captions and the comic's title.

Nathaniel Reyes
Nathaniel Reyes

Gwen was, for a moment, able to feel the actual boarder of her comic. Of course, that could've just that poor woman's face.

Gwen arrives home and Gwendad did a whole bunch of research to help her get a job writing, even getting her a spot at a charity bunch where she can meet artists and writers from the industry. Gwendad is a cool dad who cares about his daughter.

Sadly, this doesn't help Gwen's current situation. You know, the situation where she might be going insane.

Noah Young
Noah Young

It turns out that yes! Gwen is in a comic book! and Yes! Her thought balloons can push her out the window! Now everyone thinks she attempted suicide.

At the hospital, we learn other things. Like how Gwen's brother Tommy is keeping secrets.

Mason Green
Mason Green

The page she drew in the subway was ripped out … hmmm …

Gwen decides to put her observations to the test, and promptly breaks the comic.

Noah Johnson
Noah Johnson

Gwenpool #17 closes with Gwen making her escape!

William Gutierrez
William Gutierrez

I like how Gwen actually hold the placard announcing the return of Gurihiru. They know what we want.

Jackson Ramirez
Jackson Ramirez

They know what we want

Angel Mitchell
Angel Mitchell

they know what we want

Your trips are nothing but LIES!

Isaiah Rivera
Isaiah Rivera

In his defense, the previous issues before Gurihiru's return were fucking awful and drawn by a talentless chimp, though still written by the same faggot who wrote these later issues.

Why the fuck they are wasting someone like Gurihiru on this crap is still beyond my understanding, either way.

Camden Barnes
Camden Barnes

The Duck Amok stuff is great. Of course the issues without any Marvel characters in them are the most fun ones.

Would you rather they waste them on America or Champions? It's Marvel we're talking about, they're not making anything good.

Carson King
Carson King

You raise a good point. It would probably be more lucrative for Gurihiru to open a patreon and do webcomics. Not even kidding. Talented artist, bright colorful art, good attitude, strong following, past work in professional fields… and now they're "indie" and they can get 10k a month on patreon.

John Nguyen
John Nguyen

though still written by the same faggot who wrote these later issues.

It's the same faggot who wrote all of the issues. Chris Hastings, the same guy who made McNinja.

The thing is that Hastings isn't a terrible writer. Of all the Marvel "new talent", he's the only one with a vision for the book he's working on and is actually writing a comic book. No politics, no messages, just characters and interesting stories. Gurihiru gets what Hastings is trying to do and are able to convey it. Hastings know what Gurihiru is capable of and gives them free reign to tell the story visually (i.e. you could remove all of the text and still understand what's going on). They work great as a team.

The problem is that Marvel apparently can't afford to have Gurihiru do every issue, so Hastings gets saddled with fill-in artists. These fill-in artists are a testament to how far the artistic standards of the industry have fallen. They have no visual appeal, have trouble telling stories in a visual way, and their work is below sub-par. Working with them must be hell for anyone actually trying to write a comic book.

Gwenpool settles once and for all which is more important in comic books. A comic can have the best writing in the world, but it won't mean shit if it doesn't have good art.

Noah Allen
Noah Allen

We wouldn't be having the conversation if it had good art and Kate Leth or whoever was writing. It would clearly be crap and no-one would be arguing for it.

Art and story, equally important. That's why it's comics, it's both, what is so difficult to understand? But you still have idiots like Todd and Rob on one hand, who are creatively bankrupt and have to hire writers and then rip them off, in Todd's case, and Rob, who seems to be functionally illiterate, and requires a "scripter" when he's allegedly the writer, and on the other hand you've got Gerard Ashworth, who has spent thirty years screaming about how much he hates artists, and how he deliberately never learnt to draw and refuses to because artists are what's holding comics back from being literature. And of course they're all idiots, it's comics, it needs both, you fucking cuntmonkeys are arguing over what's more important, the pedals or the wheels, your legs or your arms, dicks or pussies, light or heat. It's that much of an issue, go to an art exhibition or read a book, it's COMICS, you need BOTH to make a comic. Sure, you can skimp on one, but it'll be a SHIT COMIC, like a bicycle with no wheel or no pedals, and one kid's got no pedals, and the other kid's got no wheels, and they're sitting there on their broken bicycles arguing over who's better and they're both clearly retarded.

Noah Murphy
Noah Murphy

You're right, user. But you'll never find that again in mainstream comics where stories never matter after years of being retconned, forgotten, or made irrelevant by another writer trying to one up everyone else. The days of taking this medium seriously in the west are very far behind us. Very few comic writers and artists can be taken seriously or give a damn about their craft. If you want passion and effort in this format read manga.

Lincoln Perry
Lincoln Perry

Personally, I feel like Hastings comedic and entertainment ability dwindled about half-way through Doctor McNinja. Either way, Gwenpool is definitely at it's best with a competent artist. I can't imagine how the mindfuck 4th wall breaking could even be done by a talentless fuckwit like Myisha Haynes. The woman can barely draw hands and faces, for fuck's sake.

Brandon Torres
Brandon Torres

As someone who never finished Dr. McNinja, at what point should I not keep reading it?
For reference, I stopped reading it past the introduction of the radical king but only because it hadn't updated past that point.

Hunter Barnes
Hunter Barnes

manga
Or just go outside of the big two.
Ever heard of 2000 AD?

Brayden Gonzalez
Brayden Gonzalez

Even indie books are susceptible to the SJW plague. Especially nowadays. I can't take chances with any modern comics right now before I know they're over and done with. Containing no obvious CURRENT YEAR bullshit.

Blake Davis
Blake Davis

Son, just look up the things they've done. I recc you look at Dredd and start from its first prog. You have some 2k issues to look into and thats ignoring other titles like Warlock, Strontium Dog, or Slaine.
Or even look for Moebius' the Incal. All those are good old comics and the only ongoing titles there are Judge Dredd and Slaine iirc. No SJW shit there from what I can see.

I'm just tired of people only pushing capeshit or manga, while ignoring the European comic book scene (which is doing better, imo).

Jayden Cruz
Jayden Cruz

mindfuck
How is it a mindfuck, it's pretty simple

Ryder Cox
Ryder Cox

I'd say it's worth reading to the end, it definitely goes down in wackiness a bit but other than the vaguely brown female president (this was way before 2016) with flag pauldrons and an eyepatch but she doesn't stray into "overcompetent womyn" territory, it doesn't get too groan worthy.

Chase Thomas
Chase Thomas

UNBELIEVABLE GWEN TEDDY POOL #18

This issue opens with Teddy's experiences in the Marvel universe, and none of them are good.

David Anderson
David Anderson

Teddy meets the thing, finds out he has no home, and has to work for Arabian snake men because of his lack of documents.

But he finds his sister Gwen!

James Rodriguez
James Rodriguez

Unfortunately for Teddy, Gwen's changed since showing up in the Marvel U. She's become a lot more murderous.

Mileserman from the future, and the Doombot from the first arc, tells Teddy she's only going to get worse.

Asher Jenkins
Asher Jenkins

Reading all of this is Gwen, who escaped the comic last issue, and she is pissed.

Andrew Reyes
Andrew Reyes

The Unbelievable Gwenpool #18 closes with the revelation that, despite Teddy's efforts, they're not back in the real world. They never were in the real world. They NEVER EVEN LEFT THE COMIC.

This brings us up to date with Gwenpool. The next issue is supposed to drop August 16th.

John Watson
John Watson

This has been nothing but answers to questions nobody asked. Chronology and fake alternate universe questions aside that I expect either to be ignored or just briefly explained, this arc has given us two things: Gwen has stopped being chic Deadpool without superpowers and now is a comic book reality warper and her brother is always wrong because Hastings says so. The better question is why future Gwen is an asshole. Anything other than "I'm a nihilist because comics aren't real which means nothing matters except for what I care about shlubbba dubba bub bub" would be nice.

Isaac Harris
Isaac Harris

Teddy did nothing wrong.

Brandon Nguyen
Brandon Nguyen

She's cute when she's pissed.

Nathan Diaz
Nathan Diaz

Oh the comic that felt the need to throw in a parody of Nigel Farage to virtue signal, that one?

Jordan Cooper
Jordan Cooper

her brother is always wrong
That's not true though. He was right in that Gwen can lead a normal life if she goes back home and applies herself. Even though, they're both stuck in comic land, she still has the means to turn her life around. He had no idea they were still trapped in a comic and wanted to save his sister and bring her back home.

Anything other than "I'm a nihilist because comics aren't real which means nothing matters except for what I care about
To be fair, she is trapped inside a fantasy world. Nothing really will matter for her inside there. She's never going to age or see her real parents again. On bottom of the page where she rips a hole in the comic, you can see tears in her eyes when she tells her brother they aren't home. Having said that, I do believe she will eventually go to her real home with her brother. She can't stay in Wonderland forever.

Dredd is a comic about an autistic future cop, who plays things strictly by the books and nothing else. He doesn't use discretion at all. I remember the Farage thing, but I don't remember what it was about. Dredd essentially shows what happens when Socialism takes full control.

He didn't. He saw an opportunity to save his neet sister and give her a normal life. He did what any decent brother would do.

Ryan Sanchez
Ryan Sanchez

Wow this comic just went another level.

Sebastian Allen
Sebastian Allen

#19: Even Heroes Monologue, out now.

Brayden Miller
Brayden Miller

Somebody gonna dump the new release?

Logan Parker
Logan Parker

Its on the Other Chan

Cooper Gray
Cooper Gray

Extracted from That Other Place, the Unbelievable, the Amazing, the Impossible….
SssssqUIRREL GI– oh wait its just Gwen. Hi Gwen!

Thomas Mitchell
Thomas Mitchell

I'm supposed to do commentary on this aint I?
Well, this is when Mikey looks unusually angry, and Gwen falls off the page and dies.

Bye Gwen!!

Jacob Wright
Jacob Wright

Never before, our Gwen has been so close to death, be it physical or character death, so many times in one issue!! But Spidey is here to help!

Wyatt Rogers
Wyatt Rogers

Am I the only one who sees the funny of Spiderman killing Gwen Stacy?

Ooh, its exposition time, you'll see!!

Camden Perry
Camden Perry

Nu-nuh, these are hidden for a reason. Must protect the eyes of those just casually browsing and stuff.

And yet, there is one thing to say, Hastings is a hack, Guhiriru is a love who cant draw action, but it works. Because Hastings actually GREW up with comics, and Guhi can do CUTE.

And here? It really shows.

John Russell
John Russell

And thats it, another boring non-adventure starring… GWEN!!

Seriously though, is it just me or Marvel villains always have a cool cape? Is this some subliminal thing against DC?

Jose Ortiz
Jose Ortiz

Aw, I didnt think the Spoiler setting would stay clicked. There's nothing new about the last page. Soh-ree!

Carson Rodriguez
Carson Rodriguez

This comic just gets worse and worse. The story is getting even more stupid as fuck at this point

Jason Hernandez
Jason Hernandez

b-bane?

Ian Brooks
Ian Brooks

What were you expecting to happen to make it get better instead of worse?

Landon Murphy
Landon Murphy

Ronnie flashing that WP hand signal
How did they get away with this?

Adam Davis
Adam Davis

Alternate evil future version shows up
that's pretty fuggin' classic

Christopher Jones
Christopher Jones

she's cute, I like her.
that being said, this is yet another "SoL" type comics Marvel is doing but what separates this and shit like Hellcat is that this one has some cute characters and theres some stakes which make everything not pointless.

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