Dindu Nuffin rich whitey is getting released in Friday

I think unironically that cutting balls is the best punishment to rape

I don't think "punishment" should be part of the legal system. This is a puritanical idea of criminal justice. Instead, we should be utilitarian. If someone cannot be rehabilitated into society, then they should be removed from it, but that is about it. The idea that you have to suffer for your crime is something which comes from religion and desire for revenge rather than utility and materialism.

Should someone cut off your hands for hitting someone or for stealing?

…By removal, you mean death, exile or left to rot?

I don't think that the death penalty is safe enough to use. We often wind up executing the innocent, and as for exile, where would they go in a socialist world? There is no longer such a thing.

No, simple life imprisonment would be enough.

nah arms can be used for other things than stealing cutting them is stupid

but when it comes to rape cutting the rapist balls can be though of as a disarming a criminal and taking his weapon tbh

Are you super duper sure about that?

You do realize that testicles are not what is used to penetrate the victim, correct? You are aware that they have other uses in the body, yes?

And you also seem to have this assumption that only men rape. What do you propose to do to a female rapist?

You seem to be very obsessed with the idea of mutilating a person in exchange for a physical assault. The "punishment" does not fit the crime.

Based islamig gommunism poster strikes again.

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Not sure why you consider "lifetime prison" something that should unhesitatingly be used but not death.

Most of us are probably prison abolitionists, but at the same time we can let ourselves get pissed that dindu here is getting a slap on the wrist while there are people in prison who are serving life sentences for dealing coke

Didn't he, like, rape a girl while she was asleep and later plead guilty?
Mate, if you think this guy is worse than someone getting people addicted to coke I've no idea what goes on in your head.

Because you can always release a person from prison, but you cannot bring them back from the dead. You see, I have this feeling that any legal system we build will be fallible, and will therefore lead to innocent people being put in situations that they should not be. This being the case, we should avoid doing permanent things to these people, such as death or mutilation, so that in the event they are found innocent, they can be reintroduced to society.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Avery

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It is the driving force of rape read about the forbidden city of china or the house of ottoman

You anti-fun fucks
WHY

this

oh no he had sex with a girl while she was passed out drunk in the street. lets get mad that he ONLY spent 2 years in prison for his crime. hurting a special snowflake girl by kissing her when she doesnt feel like it requires the death sentence.

fucking identity feminist garbage

why balls and not dick?

lol, you can tell that second image was made by a man who has never been raped

Ironic that you decry identity politics and then post another image with exactly that.

why is it so hard to understand that sex has a big impact on people in a variety of ways. Think about rodger shooting girls for being a virgin. All the myriad fetishes and kinks in the world.

So yeah, idiots, rape is bad.

So I guess you think women can't rape.

Not surprising tbh

Nobody said that rape isn't bad, and Rodger had mental issues other than being a virgin.

We know, the thing is that it isn't the worst thing in the world. You could lose an eye to someone beating you up, and they would not get the time a rapist gets.

Nazis must also be pro-rape, since they certainly encouraged the raping in the ass that they got from Ivan.

Yeah I think traumatizing someone is generally worse than a prole trying to make a few extra bucks in this shitty system by selling blow

Yeahhhh I'd rather lose an eye than get raped again. At least I would have an excuse to wear a cool eyepatch.

Huh? Where the fuck do you live. A decade for putting someone in the hospital is by no means unheard of.

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There are times when rape is justified for example, during the revolutionary war that is to come.

documentcloud.org/documents/2852615-Stanford-Victim-Letter-Impact-Statement-From.html

oh yeah she didn't experience any trauma whatsoever, stupid bitch is just exaggerating everything to get attention /s

Only and only if you are wearing the uniform of the governmental puppies like the police army etc…

Other than that rape is a weak weapon that can back fire on the user of that weapon from things like AIDS PTSD etc.. and has no strong point you can't blackmail the victim or use it as a method of torture

So in the revolutionary Ethics rape is a non weapon and you should be condemned for wasting the time of the rebels on ineffective means

Depends on what they did. Look what happened in the Brian Stow case, and that's one of the most publicized and most horrific beatings in recent years. He's definitely more affected by that beating than someone being raped in their sleep.

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This is why you tell women not to do this shit, but if you tell them, it's victim blaming.

Ladies, if you're listening, do not do what she did. It still may not prevent your rape, but it will at least deter opportunistic rapists, and it won't happen while you're passed out behind a dumpster.

I thought both him and his victim were drunk during the "rape".

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_trauma_syndrome#Acute_stage

Google says he fingered an unconscious girl, which is considered rape. He's pretty stupid if he couldn't get away with something like that.

If you read about it, it seems she passed out as he was fingering her. For all we know, he thought he was just getting some poontang. He might not have even had the intention of doing anything wrong.

Lol at liberals still crying about muh rape.

The problem is the second part of that sentence. All punishments are far too harsh in our current society. The idea that crime is caused by a lack of punishment is one of the most harmful and counterproductive spooks our civilization has ever invented.

The only two goals of the justice system should be altering the material conditions of society to make crime unnecessary, and rehabilitating offenders in such a way as to minimize suffering for all parties.

If your justice system does not seek to minimize total suffering, then it is not delivering justice.

Worst part about this board is I can never tell when someone is deliberately trolling or just has autism levels high enough to not feel any empathy

Being a fucking idiot does not immunize you to the law.

"The law" is a spook in the most literal sense. It is an arbitrary set of edicts which we elevate to the status of divine commandments.

Do not ask, "is this legal". Ask instead, "what course of action leads to the greatest happiness for the most humans". 9 times out of 10, the answer won't be "spend millions of dollars keeping someone rotting in a small cage just to gain perverse pleasure from their suffering".

Whuz the plan then?

Not really related to the topic at hand.

I suspect the overwhelming majority of sex-related crimes can be prevented just by giving our society a more healthy view of sex. With the amount of repression, fear, misinformation, hatred and mindless panic surrounding discussion of sex it's amazing that we have as few sexual assaults as we do. Once people recognize that sex is really not a big deal and there's nothing wrong with a bit of masturbation or prostitution, rapes will be far less common.

In this specific case I'd literally just give him some mandatory counseling and send him on his way. The social stigma of being a rapist is already going to prevent him from ever forgetting his mistakes.

sometimes the grass is greener on the other side.

Two drunken people have sex. Did they both become rapists?

I've fingered drunken girls before. Nobody called me a rapist.

Of course they're rapists. They should be hanged drawn and quartered so that their victims can rest in peace. The alternative is to let two rapists loose on the streets, and that's just unthinkable.

(1 )No
(2) Was she passed out or drunk enough that she was unaware what was going on? Then the answer is yes. As far as I know every state prohibits fucking someone that's incapacitated.

And yet, being drunk enough that you're unaware what's going on is not sufficient to remove criminal liability.

I think you're wrong about #1. If the woman reports it as a rape, it will be treated as a rape.

Right? Not sure where you're going with this. There's a difference between being drunk and being incapacitated. If you're the latter, you're not going to be committing any crimes or really be doing anything at all,

Prosecutors are very picky with rape cases though. An investigation will ensue, of course, but unless someone is incapacitated they aren't going to bring charges cause it will just get overturned on appeal.

If you can say that it was rape because you didn't know what was going on, then you should also not be liable for anything else that happened while you were in that state. That's what he's saying.

Saying "I was drunk, so rape." is stupid. Take some personal responsibility for your actions. By all accounts, she left with him and only passed out when he was on top of her. He was also drunk.

Again, there's a difference between being drunk and being incapacitated. If you're fingering someone that's passed out, it's a crime. You're making this more complicated than it actually is.

Yeh my friend got slashed so you could see his teeth through his cheek and I was right next to him and I had dreams about knives and getting stabbed from then (14) right up until a couple of years ago, I'm 24 now. There was a lot of stuff going on but it definitely contributed to me a being a paranoid wreck for a long time

I also beat the shit out of somebody because I thought they were pulling a knife when they weren't.

I'm calming down now but it made me jumpy as all fuck.

Except it's a crime even if they're not passed out, and it's difficult to judge if someone is incapacitated if you yourself are near that state.

So passed out girl should take responsibility for her actions, but rich boy dindu nuffin cause it's hard to know things when you're drunk. Alright.

And yes, it's always a crime when the victim is incapacitated, which may or may not mean being passed out. No one is going to throw you in jail for fucking someone who's had two or three beers, but if they're unaware of what's going on then you're getting slammed.

Dindu fingered someone who was passed out. Being passed out means she wasn't capable of consenting to sexual conduct. He broke the law. Case closed.

No, there's nothing really inherent to rape as an assault that justifies it's special status in society and the legal system.

It carries extra weight for a couple of reasons, IMO.

1. It is popularly perceived as something that can only legitimately happen to women and any assault on a woman by a man is automatically treated as greater outrage because of the way our society regards the sexes.

2. There is some holdover from bygone days that sex destroys a woman's purity. So rape as an assault is not only the physical attack, but also does irreparable damage to her social status and prospects for finding a mate. ie. it really could destroy her life.

Number 2 doesn't have a great deal of basis in reality any longer, but I suspect that it not only still informs the extra gravity that it carries as a crime but also the whole industry that surrounds it that makes it profitable to convince victims that they are damaged forever (and therefore justify both public and private funding in perpetuity for the support industry) rather than as something they'll get over with time as it is with most other assaults.

t. person who has been raped

I would add a third reason: we are schizophrenic when it comes to sex in our society. It's something required for the continuation of our species, but at the same time we view it as something deeply personal that we should keep hidden. So being assaulted in a sexual manner makes you feel vulnerable in a way that other assaults may not.

Yeah, she should not have drank that much. It's up to her to limit herself because she might end up asking a dude to finger her in that state.

Rich boy fingered her, which is what she asked for according to him.

Except she may have been awake when he started.

That wasn't my experience but I also wasn't really socialised to view sex that way growing up. Most people definitely seem to be though, so you might be right.

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