Hey, Holla Forums, Burger here.Any Canadian comrades here on Holla Forums? I've been thinking about moving there and I want to be prepare before I dive in. Which province is the best? Which has the best presence of socialist activism? I just want to make sure I'm not moving to a hicktown with conservative policies.
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Don't do Alberta unless you want to tear your hair out. In the cities you can find some cool people but most people you'll meet are the worst oil industry bootlickers.
We ran completely off the cliff economically and people pin the blame on the socdems that were recently elected instead of the conservative political dynasty that was unchallenged for over 4 fucking decades.
Which Province has the most progressive policies? Is Healthcare really 100% free, or does it vary by province?
why does it have to be canada?
I don't know, I was thinking about the UK too, or even Norway.
I'm not really sure. I'd think Ontario or BC. BC has a fucked amount of wealth inequality though.
Healthcare is free for the most part. A couple provinces have small premiums, but healthcare can't be denied to you if you aren't able to pay them.
Go to Mexico.
I'm in BC, and it's not half bad. You'll have a hell of a time finding a place to live with the way the real estate market is, but people are generally alright. The school I go to, SFU, has a Labour Studies program a few of whose classes I've taken that has some pretty cool professors, but there's plenty of idpol garbage going around too. School is incidentally how I learned about Neoliberalism and all that stuff. Also got a thriving gun culture, if you're into that.
Anything south of Toronto in Ontario is a horrible, horrible, regretful waste of your time and effort.
hes a afilthy imagrent taking their jobs
What jobs?
"Snow ploughing" aka taking the white women
I'd challenge that assertion.
They're five hundred pounds and five iq points each, you can have em.
If you do move, move to Nelson or anywhere in BC's west kootenays. One of the most #Woke areas in the province and it's SUPER cheap, plus selkirk college is a good place to start an education
Burger here.
Where can I move to obtain more freedom and get access to nicer and less stupid people without sacrificing my access to technology?
Quebec is full of socialists and anarchists, politically it's far closer to a European country than a North American one. The only thing is that there is also a strong nationalist streak that is pretty Holla Forums tier (basically "I'm miserable because le maudits Anglos et les brown people"), but it's dying out. Ontario is good too but make sure you stick to the North. The South is liberal cringe who thing Trudeau is leftist and generally shitty, but the North is full of hardworking Union towns because of all the logging and mining that's done up here. People here have guns and go on strike when porky steps on them. Avoid the prairies like the plague, it's full of people who unironically liked Harper.
UK is a shitty surveillance state where a bike wheel is considered a deadly weapon. Norway sounds cool, but in all honesty Finland sounds like paradise.
Toronto here. There's lots of lefty stuff going on here, and we've got a strong labour and social activism scene. Health care is pretty good, as is education. Plus I'm pretty sure the conservatives will never win again. But it's pretty hardscrabble, and takes a lot of gumption to live here. Cost of living is pretty high.
Halifax is a lot poorer, but has a very strong ML tendency.
Montreal is probably the best. Low cost of living and real estate, decent welfare state, and a very strong leftist tradition. It's pretty cool. Never lived there myself, but it's a very neat place. Also not too Francophone to be annoying, but enough that it's cool. I'd suggest you go there.
apparently nationalism and racism are waaaay on the rise in finland right now. All that nice stuff wil probably be gone very soon
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quebec is full of angry left leaning people from what i've heard
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But comrade, the coastal fjords are the perfect place to hide during nuclear apocalypse
Torontonian here. You'll find decent socialist activism in all of the major cities; Vancouver, Calgary, Toronto, and Montreal, and to a lesser extent Edmonton, Winnipeg, Hamilton, Mississauga, Quebec City, and Halifax. Montreal is probably the best but you'll have to learn French. No one province is best but avoid the prairies unless you enjoy dying of boredom.
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Oh my god, for some reason this thread has done a wonderful job of establishing the idea that Canada is a frozen idyllic paradise that I can run away to and never look back. How difficult is it for burgers to eventually get citizenship?
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I mean "Ehhhh."
no free dental, which is equally important and not just about having straight white cis teeth
anybody?
Depends. Are you educated? If so what's your field? Work experience? Obviously you already speak English so that's a plus. Any family here?
Our immigration system functions on points. You get points in your favour for having things like a degree (especially in STEM or law), fluent English or French (or better yet both), family with citizenship or permanent resident status, a job already lined up etc.
What's your major? I'm on my way to graduating from the English program, I'm gonna miss this glorious North Korean architecture.
I'm in my second year at a community college I was basically retarded in math and couldn't get past algebra in highschool. Getting better now and am planning to transfer into a 4 year, or just starting at the beginning. But to answer those questions, I don't really have any of those things, currently. I read that you need to have lived in the country for 4(or 3, I'm not sure)years prior to the whole citizenship process. Theoretically speaking, could it be possible to get that time from attending a Canadian college? I assume Americans are much less likely to get accepted in Canadian colleges then Canadians. How hard would it be to study there?
the guy who started the marxist-leninist party of canada is named bain
Politically, how's Penticton/Oosooyoos?
I know that is a strange orange island in a sea of blue, but all I know about it is through family trips, and my family, I'll admit, is kinda bougie, my uncle who lives there is a quasi lolbertarian. So I don't know a lot about "real life" there.
How bourgie?
My paternal Grandfather was a good Catholic boy, and my maternal Grandfather was a farmer, so I've got thirteen aunts and uncles relatives who really fucking run the gamut. Just on my paternal side, I've got ex-lumber workers in Vernon on one end, and a Bush-voting stock exchange uncle in a white flight NJ suburb on the other. (He and his wife adopted kids from Latin America so I'm damn sure he's no Trumpkin, yet in '08 he told me that Obama would lose the New York primary because "the Jews perceive non-white leadership as a threat to Israel") My Mom and Dad are both in law doing quasi-benevolent work (one's in insolvency, the other a worker's comp board,) so while they don't make as much money as the bourgies in the family, they tend to be better able to converse with them. Not exactly horny-handed sons of toil. I live in Vancouver though, so all the non-bourgies are way closer to us.
We don't converse with my Mother's side of the family as much; they're more working class, but some of them are pretty reactionary and one in particular is loudly anti-union. My grandfather on that side is kind of a jerk; my Mother was the first woman in the family to go to university and her dad really resented the notion, only caving in when her Mom forced his hand to let her go. He resents her even further since she ended up far and away the most successful person in the family. Now he only visits her once a year at Christmastime despite only living an hour and a half away.
Quebec
Which has the best presence of socialist activism?
It's a mix between Vancouver, Quebec and Ontario. That's if you want bullshit idpol flag waving nonsense. If you want actual communist resistance you are better off going to a first nations area in the backwoods.
Tuition here is naturally higher for foreign students, but half are universities are Chinese now so it's doable and we have pretty good public-sector student supports. But I think you could theoretically do it like that as long as you stayed here. Our citizenship requirements are a lot lower than the USA' s. If you can line yourself a job up, it's much easier. Bless NAFTA.
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Here's the points chart. Try to full it out for yourself. As an Anglophone, you've already got an advantage. As it says on too, scoring 67 or higher means you can easily do it.
Good luck, fampai
So you're going to abandon your fellow workers, most of whom can't afford to move to Canada, and leave them at the mercy of the fascists, whom you're fleeing from with your tail between your legs?
Fuck that noise. Give not a single inch to the enemies of the American workers. We shall not let them pass.
I'm transferring to ryehigh in a couple of days, can I easily join a non-garbage socialist union?
Living to fight another day is some times the better option.
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This. Natives are bro tier when it comes to politics.
Oka 2.0 soon comrades.
You think so little of me that you think they'll kill me so easily?
The politically-obnoxious but tactically-talented General Patton said, "It's not your job to die for your country, it's to make sure the other poor bastard dies for his." I don't seek martyrdom, but I don't wish to scurry away like a rat either.