Non-backdoored SSDs

Jayden Young
Jayden Young

Whilst going full libreboot and modding a QX9300 into a T500, slow hdd storage is painful too a price to remain full libre.
We know for a fact, that all Sandforce controllers and basically every product from WD and Seagate are backdoored.
You can isolate it using USB 2.0, but it's too slow.

Non Western Sata SSDs it is then.
All chink government PCs use Renice and/or Runcore SSDs, since the chinks wrote their own controller and built it themselves backdoor free.
I have seen those two recommended often.

Anyone got experience or with those? Any other suggestions?

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techpowerup.com/209925/nsa-hides-spying-backdoors-into-hard-drive-firmware
motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/ypwkwk/the-nsas-undetectable-hard-drive-hack-was-first-demonstrated-a-year-ago
libreboot.org/faq.html#hddssd-firmware
openssd-project.org/wiki/The_OpenSSD_Project
openssd-project.org/wiki/Cosmos_OpenSSD_Platform
crz-mart.com/shop/shopbrand.html?type=M&xcode=003&mcode=001
archive.fo/6u3oo

Leo Myers
Leo Myers

Is there any proof or it's just speculation?

Anthony Garcia
Anthony Garcia

What makes you believe they don't have gook backdoors built in?

Lincoln Diaz
Lincoln Diaz

TechPowerup article
techpowerup.com/209925/nsa-hides-spying-backdoors-into-hard-drive-firmware
Motherboard article:
motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/ypwkwk/the-nsas-undetectable-hard-drive-hack-was-first-demonstrated-a-year-ago
The Libreboot page explains why USB 2.0 doesn't have DMA and how Sata is vulnerable
libreboot.org/faq.html#hddssd-firmware

Also saw a IT-Security Blog doing a great explanation in detail, can't find it right now.

Michael Baker
Michael Baker

I don't.
The choice is between a Highly Likely backdoored, supported by evidence western drive and a drive that may or may-not have backdoors eastern one.

If I had the choice, I would rather give my data to China instead of the NSA.

Alexander Nelson
Alexander Nelson

That's like picking between AIDS and HIV, you'll still fucking die

Luis Lopez
Luis Lopez

Also just get a Samsung drive

Tyler Jackson
Tyler Jackson

backdoored by both sides

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Matthew Rodriguez
Matthew Rodriguez

If I had the choice, I would rather give my data to China instead of the NSA.
Let's say I'm Russian. What is worse, NSA or China? Or it doesn't matter?
(Now that the Russian puppet was made your president, will it mean that NSA shares all data with FSB or what?)

Aaron Turner
Aaron Turner

This looks very freedom respecting: openssd-project.org/wiki/The_OpenSSD_Project

Ian Gonzalez
Ian Gonzalez

Nice Redpilling LARP, OP. In an earlier age, you'll be wearing a black trenchcoat to school.

All HDDs since the mid 1980s--before you were fucking born-- have had some kind of direct UART interface to the firmware.

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Charles Kelly
Charles Kelly

That's quite a ways off from harddrives having ARM based micro controllers, which can run linux being installed on every storage device, with proofs from Intel ME running programs which can read out your RAM on even less capable ARM micro processors.

Benjamin Martin
Benjamin Martin

Best way to protect against harmful firmware in your drives is to:
encrypt the filesystem
This doesn't nessairly protect you, but heavily reduces risk of less sophisticated attacks like cacheing or altering files in transfer.
configure libreboot/coreboot to only run signed kernel images
This ensurses that the drive has not tampered with your kernel, which is one rout it could take to get net access. If you use full disk encryption including your /boot partition, this might not be nessary. If you don't use libreboot/coreboot and just configure grub on mbr/efi to check signatures then it's not really protecting much, as the kernel and keys are both being read from the drive, though it might be worth doing since it's easy and might thwart some simple scripted attacks that didn't accout for signed images. If you have a TPM and use UEFI booting you could sign the grub efi image and enable secureboot, which should prevent the drive from altering the signature file, thus being effectivly like libreboot/coreboot in regard to signed kernels. UEFI is it's own can of worms in regard to security though, and some question the integrity of TPMs.
connect the drive over USB or use a cpu/mobo with iommu features enabled
This will prevent the drive from getting direct memmory access (and thus net access, access to encryption keys, access to pretty much what ever it wants)

If you do all of these it still isn't perfect, but it prevents the drive from preforming more trivial exploits and from getting access to system memmory or a network stack. Thus redusing the risk to fairly sophisticated, probobly targeted attacks that require physical access to recover data from.

Luis Hill
Luis Hill

I don't think it matters honestly, especially since Russia puppet states have been in short supply since the collapse of the soviet union. Unless ruskies are the real juden.

Camden Peterson
Camden Peterson

I'd rather get fucked in the mouth than in the ass
Why though.

Noah Phillips
Noah Phillips

Russia has always been under juden control since 1917

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Samuel Torres
Samuel Torres

in ass it hurts more

Gabriel Myers
Gabriel Myers

Hating jews won't make you whiter, mutt.

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Jayden Morales
Jayden Morales

What a revelation, it's not like there's groups of non-whites notorious for their Jew removal lust or anything. How many /leftypol/ Amerimutt images do you have left before you give up anyway?

Julian Green
Julian Green

Oh, you know very little about harddrives.

There's been a Whole-Disk encryption feature in ATA drives, 'ATA Security', and later on, SED, since forever. The TLAs have had the facilities to re-engineer the drive's firmware so that the ATA password and the like was stored in normally inaccessible areas of disk, making it an easy job to thwart Teh Commies or Teh Druglords. Quantum were accessed in ?2001 of installing trojaned firmware at the factory on the behest of the CIA.

John Sanchez
John Sanchez

chinks wrote their own controller
backdoor free

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Nathaniel Martin
Nathaniel Martin

There is one, but it's not in a standard form factor, and it will cost you.

openssd-project.org/wiki/Cosmos_OpenSSD_Platform
crz-mart.com/shop/shopbrand.html?type=M&xcode=003&mcode=001

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Lincoln Harris
Lincoln Harris

he thinks le 56% is /leftypol/
/reddit/index.html

Brody Rivera
Brody Rivera

lmao not American, but keep trying rusmutt

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Joseph Phillips
Joseph Phillips

Hey, remember when China was selling to Russia consumer electronics (irons and microwaves and such) with actual botnet inside?
archive.fo/6u3oo

Also considering how China and Russia share tips on how to censor the internet, although China probably just wants to sell their DPI hardware to be honest, I'd prefer to take my chances with NSA.

Liam Martinez
Liam Martinez

I'd just like to interject for a moment. AIDS isn't a disease unto itself, but rather one of the symptoms of HIV.

If I had the choice, I would rather give my data to China instead of the NSA.
Why? I would rather give it to the NSA, because they probably won't sell it to everyone. ofc, they could sell it to foreign governments, some random company could sell it to anyone who has the money. And I think NSA would store my data securely, unlike some random company.

Tyler Rogers
Tyler Rogers

AIDS isn't a disease unto itself, but rather one of the symptoms of HIV.
that's the joke

Liam Mitchell
Liam Mitchell

Why? I would rather give it to the NSA, because they probably won't sell it to everyone. ofc, they could sell it to foreign governments, some random company could sell it to anyone who has the money. And I think NSA would store my data securely, unlike some random company.
Are we advocating now for how the NSA is keeping our data save and secure? What even is this.

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